Respect IRL and In-Game (aka Yo Yo Yo Wassup Ma Ni**as?)

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When a self-announced 12 year old enters a lobby shouting, "yo yo yo, wassup ma n**as?" it usually draws attention of one kind or another.

Once recognized, however, the child usually learns to just quiet down and settle into the game and the mood of the lobby.

However, I think most of us have experienced that one kid that doesn't quite get the vibe and quickly dominates the entire experience for everyone in the lobby.

Swearing, overtalking everyone else, yelling, and illustrating a complete disrespect to all other players is nothing short of unsettling.

I rarely engage these players and immediately go to MUTE.

 

But, when did this happen?

When did young kids – 8, 10, 12 years old – start speaking to people ten, fifteen, or even twenty years older than them with such utter disregard for manners, etiquette, or respect?

And strangers, no less. Is anonymity the key, here?

Yeah, I'm old(er), and when I was that age, I would NEVER have spoken to someone older than me this way. "You fa**ot!" "I f****ed you mama, last night!" "You sound like you take d**k!"

Sorry if these lines are offensive, but they have become the common nomenclature of the game now – the language of a generation of badass 10-12 year olds that are someday going to be voting, paying taxes, and stimulating the economy of our countries.

At my age, that scares the bejeezums out of me!

But again, when did this happen? How is it being tolerated? And where is it going?

Frankly, I'm just tired of trying to log on with randoms and while my general experiences are majorly positive and entertaining, even with adults who swear and talk trash – it's easier to take from a 19 or 25 year old than a 7 year old), the influx of these squeaking gangstas has recently become overwhelming and I've dropped sessions more often just because of them.

What are your thoughts? I'd be curious of dialogue on the topic. Cheers!
(if the topic has been covered to death and I missed it in the Search, then please feel free to redirect)

[Smooth Longsack]

I used to make prank calls at that age. I would say utterly ridiculous things with an effeminate pre-pubescent voice and laugh all the way home. I would have been stupidly compelled to act out in anonymity if we had internet in my youth.

Edited August 13, 2015 by Smooth Longsack

[DeucesR]

I enjoy slaughtering them over and over again and listening to them scream and curse as my bullets rip through their characters body.

 

Kids now a day are bad lol

[Chiarii]

Anonymity has everything to do with it. Talking to people that way face to face has serious risks. As for this being something new than yes and no. Kids have always been cruel to each other and make really disgusting and offending remarks to one another. The only difference now is that they the have unlimited access to adults online.

 

You also have to consider the source. If a parent is willing to let their preteen child operate a game like this -which is most definitely a murder simulator- for an open ended amount of time, it stands to reason that those same parents can't be bothered to teach their child to respect others.

Edited August 13, 2015 by SpreeMurder

[Furry_Monkey]

Two things are key here, as far as I can tell.

 

Anonymity, as you said yourself. When we were that age the closest thing we had to this was ringing a random phone number and asking to speak to somebody with a comical or famous name. (I once ended up in an hour long conversation with a guy that swore blind he was Jesus!)

 

Also, whilst I'm not suggesting that any form of violence is ever a solution or good idea, if I'd have called an adult male a fa**ot, when I was a teenager, he would have punched me square in the face. I know this for a fact. I also know it would mean that I that kid would never do it again. You can get arrested for smiling at a kid these days. They can do what they want.

[The Gator]

Well, I think majority of kids are little sh*ts. The difference is, most of us grew up in a time where online gaming wasn't so big or even existed for some. Kids now have online gaming to make them feel like they're big and bad, so they talk sh*t to people without fearing any sort of consequence (getting the taste slapped out of their mouth) because they're hiding behind a mic.

 

Some kids mature and learn that that's not the way to go as they get older, then you have the people who never mature, and are 18-25, looking to spawn kill you and going "yeah bitch ass sit down etc" and fully displaying their inferiority complex.

[Coleco]

Internet anonymity coupled with competitive gameplay has the power to turn your meek average joe into a hyper-fronting d*ckbag.

 

I remember when I was in my early teens and my language was pretty colourful - dropping f-bombs like they were going out of fashion. Part of growing up I guess - getting it out of your system. Only for me that was around friends and people of my own age. Not to people older than me (at 13, someone who was 17 appeared to be a world-wise giant who was never wrong... funny how these days I have the opposite opinion).

 

I don't have any issue with squeakers and offensive language online as my settings are always on 'mute all'. Saves me having to listen to all the prepubescent bad-asses (and some who are older and should know better). Ignorance, from my point of view in this case, surely is bliss

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

I think some people underestimate some members of their generation, you also have an influx of people in general playing online and one often does not know how old everyone is for sure.

Also to be fair i did not encounter much squeekers that are actualy rude...most just are loud like most kids are their age.

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

 

More edit: most wanabe gangsters in session are generaly around my age thus around 22 years old and you simply can not expect anyone with a voice respects you with such an atitude even if you coud be their teenage dad

Edited August 13, 2015 by goldadderXD

[Dondara]

When I was a kid, there was nothing to hide behind and sh*t talking would end with a beating. These little bastards have not had a proper ass kicking. The real world will sort them out. Let's hope they cry the whole time.

 

It's lazy parents too self-involved to teach their kids respect. Children should be seen, not heard.

[The Gator]

You also have to consider the source. If a parent is willing to let their preteen child operate a game like this -which is most definitely a murder simulator- for an open ended amount of time, it stands to reason that those same parents can't be bothered to teach their child to respect others.

A lot of this as well. Most parents buy whatever game their kids want, just so the kid can be entertained and the parents don't have to pay attention to them. It's very rare that a parent will stop and check out the game to see exactly what it's about, to see if it's not only appropriate, but if their kid is mentally mature to handle it.

Edited August 13, 2015 by iamcornholio

[marco6158]

Kids now are very disrespectful. It happens too frequently that a kid starts yelling at someone just because you're good at something or insult you because yes.

 

I think that at this moment we can't do nothing, things are going to be worse unless parents actually wake up and have a look at what their children are doing when at home.

[livejoker]

Cue comments in the style of "complain about kids but you customized that car like a kid would".

I think the whole "kids swearing in gaming" all started with Call of Duty:Modern Warfare 2. I can't recall a specific time or game where people would bring up kids swearing in-game. Well, there was the whole "kids playing Mortal Kombat" at arcades (I was one of them) but all I got were glances. I never resorted to swearing if I got beaten or something mostly because I knew I was too young and swearing in public was, in some way, a danger...like a threat, you know? So the fact that kids have a gamertag to represent them and nothing else is the big change. Sure, check their I.P (whatever good that does) and all but for the most parts if someone, no matter their age, can do and say as they please without actual repercussion then they'll jump at the opportunity. Example: you went to a horrible show and there's a guy there who's going to listen to any feedback. How do you tell the guy the show was sh*t? If you've got manners, you'll say something like, "well, the comedian could've expanded his thoughts here and do a little less of this". Replace that guy with a suggestion box and most papers will say, "you suck, you sh*t-faced wanker". Walking away but still speaking your mind is a wonderful feeling of feeling invincible and I guess that mics are a great way to become who you want...or at least speak your mind if you're that big of a dick in real-life. I will say two things:

Kids today have no manners if we base this on the gaming culture. They talk with no thought.

But

Adults are far worst. Kids are dicks with no thought, adults are dicks with false information and blurry point of views.

You have no idea how many racist, sexist, idiotic deep-voiced males I've encountered in GTA and how many kind and friendly squeaking kids I've met in GTA. The thing that really itches me is how a few encounters (or even one encounter) can place a whole group into a specific group. There's some annoying kids playing GTA but there's a bunch that are cooler than most "mature" gamers. So instead of grouping kids together, why not group assholes together? Old and young. They're all extremely offensive and I'm not one to be offended easily. But I mean, you're playing a game. If the game pits us all with a task such as "save the world before the end of the night" we'd all be working together. Give us a big map to do what we want of course we'll say how weird Obama's ears look.

[The Gator]

Children should be seen, not heard.

That type of mentality is what makes certain kids so bad. There's nothing kids want more than to be heard and for someone to give them attention, when you deny them that it's when they start to act out. Either because they are trying harder to get attention, or they're behaving improperly out of resenment.

 

Most kids would be a lot better off if their parents actually did their job as parents. I'll bet you anything if more parents were paying attention to their kids, you'd have a lot less of them playing online videogames.

Edited August 13, 2015 by iamcornholio

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More edit: most wanabe gangsters in session are generaly around my age thus around 22 years old and you simply can not expect anyone with a voice respects you with such an atitude even if you coud be their teenage dad

I do find it interesting, too, that a lot of 17-25 year olds will engage the younger audience, 7-16 years old, with the same ferocity and vitriol they use to engage their peers of the same age.

 

It's disturbing to hear a 30 year old calling a 9 year old all sorts of callow, derogatory foul insults that one might not even shed to their good friends.

 

Again, state of the game, I suppose, but disturbing, nonetheless.

[Sky_Light12]

yup , they're just trying to be cool but failed

the last time i done humane labs with lone wanderer , i'm calling his squeaker friend an " MLG wannabe " . lone originally intend to gave him 0% cut but he implies that the squeaker ragequit once . damn i forgot some additional details , aside of him singing " spooky scary skeleton "

Edited August 13, 2015 by Sky_Light12

[Vik]

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

 

 

 

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

[Retired Mafia]

invite Zolan(pegassi autobot) to that session. he's your problem solver in this situation.

[fw3]

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I dunno... making a child cry IRL seems cruel and kind of weird; yet, hearing a 6 year old screaming and crying at the top of their lungs because I just blew up their racecar in GTAO is nothing short of pure entertainment.

 

There's a rating on the box for a reason. Sorry, I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

More edit: most wanabe gangsters in session are generaly around my age thus around 22 years old and you simply can not expect anyone with a voice respects you with such an atitude even if you coud be their teenage dad

I do find it interesting, too, that a lot of 17-25 year olds will engage the younger audience, 7-16 years old, with the same ferocity and vitriol they use to engage their peers of the same age.

 

It's disturbing to hear a 30 year old calling a 9 year old all sorts of callow, derogatory foul insults that one might not even shed to their good friends.

 

Again, state of the game, I suppose, but disturbing, nonetheless.

 

i blame to much testosterone and the fact not only the more nerdy people engage in online gaming anymore.

you now can add the regular sh*thead teen that needs to jerk more, the mature guy putting his supressed anger into his gameplay,....

in the end every game is a fantasy were we do sh*t we woud not do in real life because of the consequences.

[DeucesR]

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I dunno... making a child cry IRL seems cruel and kind of weird; yet, hearing a 6 year old screaming and crying at the top of their lungs because I just blew up their racecar in GTAO is nothing short of pure entertainment.

 

There's a rating on the box for a reason. Sorry, I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO.

Exactly! Same here.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

 

 

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

 

yawn....

[livejoker]

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I dunno... making a child cry IRL seems cruel and kind of weird; yet, hearing a 6 year old screaming and crying at the top of their lungs because I just blew up their racecar in GTAO is nothing short of pure entertainment.

 

There's a rating on the box for a reason. Sorry, I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO.

 

Well it depends if that kid should be crying. If he's acting like a hotshot and calling everyone names then ensue the muggers! If he's just trying to drive around and looking for others with mics to join his cruise, why attack someone who's just trying to have a good time just based on his voice? That type of mentality is, to me, extremely immature. Ironic, right? When the kid wants a good time and people older than him are targeting him just because of how he sounds.

 

We were all young once and all stupid. Why can't kids do the same in online games? Teach them to act better instead of leaving them enraged and alone.

[Retired Mafia]

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO. Read this:

 

Still with him on this?

[livejoker]

What the f*ck...

[DeucesR]

 

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO. Read this:

 

Still with him on this?

I am.

[The Gator]

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

 

 

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

Repulsive is a strong word for the subject, imo.

 

I don't necessarily enjoy making kids cry just because, simply because I find kids very annoying, and a kid crying is even more annoying... But if I happen to hear a kid crying over something on a game I'd probably laugh my ass off.

[Vik]

 

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I dunno... making a child cry IRL seems cruel and kind of weird; yet, hearing a 6 year old screaming and crying at the top of their lungs because I just blew up their racecar in GTAO is nothing short of pure entertainment.

 

There's a rating on the box for a reason. Sorry, I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO.

 

Well it depends if that kid should be crying. If he's acting like a hotshot and calling everyone names then ensue the muggers! If he's just trying to drive around and looking for others with mics to join his cruise, why attack someone who's just trying to have a good time just based on his voice? That type of mentality is, to me, extremely immature. Ironic, right? When the kid wants a good time and people older than him are targeting him just because of how he sounds.

 

We were all young once and all stupid. Why can't kids do the same in online games? Teach them to act better instead of leaving them enraged and alone.

 

 

 

I was actually just about to say that .Not exactly,but more or less.

 

 

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

 

 

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

 

yawn....

 

 

Thanks for your colorful response.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I dunno... making a child cry IRL seems cruel and kind of weird; yet, hearing a 6 year old screaming and crying at the top of their lungs because I just blew up their racecar in GTAO is nothing short of pure entertainment.

 

There's a rating on the box for a reason. Sorry, I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO.

 

i woud not do that in real life unless they somehow invade my home.....hey i have a small niece of 1.5 years old, though i think my sister was stupid to ever make a kid just like anyone who does, you can not blame the kid for being born and you can not blame the kid for being family either.

[thebrianmo]

Kids, at least in America, are not disciplined anymore for negative or bad behavior. That's reality. I talk a lot of trash online and I have fun doing it and mean no harm by it. But even at 39, if my dad were alive and heard me speak that way he'd rip my headset off and burn my PS4, seriously!

 

Let's be honest; while the parents are to blame, those of us who are adults don't do much to help these kids along. We hear them and we generally "own and destroy them."

 

The kids I'm nicest to are the one's who try to be respectful. Disrespect in GTAO gets them spawn killed and owned until they are laying in a puddle of their own tears begging mommy to get on the mic (has actually happened to me) or call Rockstar to save them.

[Vik]

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

 

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

Repulsive is a strong word for the subject, imo.

 

I don't necessarily enjoy making kids cry just because, simply because I find kids very annoying, and a kid crying is even more annoying... But if I happen to hear a kid crying over something on a game I'd probably laugh my ass off.

 

 

The thing is,is that he MAKES them cry on something not even coorelated with the game.Thats why its so repulsive.

 

It even goes to the border of cyber-bullying.Which is a tad bit excessive.

 

 

 

Edit: i simply kill them because i dislike their voices and i like it when kids cry.

Please dont bring your disgusting nature into this conversation,seriously,most people dont find making children cry to be funny.Its actually repulsive.

I dunno... making a child cry IRL seems cruel and kind of weird; yet, hearing a 6 year old screaming and crying at the top of their lungs because I just blew up their racecar in GTAO is nothing short of pure entertainment.

 

There's a rating on the box for a reason. Sorry, I'm with Goldadder on this one when it comes to GTAO.

 

my sister was stupid to ever make a kid just like anyone who does

 

 

Holy crud you have a weird mentality.