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The7thOne

Mods being banned.. again (FiveM fiasco)

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_MK_

Theres R* giving you the middle finger,as always,nothing worse than Rockstar's pathetic ways to protect that bag of sh*t called ONLINE from mods than the fanboys sucking R's dick for doing so,just disgusting.

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Alvarez

@NGClan: i tend to agree with you, even if i don't like it.

 

There is nothing more hilarious than calling customers to boycott some product, unless it hits everyone. Remember the "Rockstar bans for mods" outrage? Also R* hasn't considered this issue important back then and let the communitys rage accumulate and boil over.

 

This time they were quick with a statement, even if this isn't true about piracy, they just declared the blue to red and expect us to take it without discussions, as a big part of the community is blissfully unaware of FiveM, or doesn't care, like console guys.

 

Let me ask this bluntly: who, in the end, will need FiveM, when we 'have' a ready product to consume? Why climbing on that mountain, when the grass here is so delicious mediocre? The shepherd must know.

Bääh.

 

This is plainly sad, but what could the right course of actions be?

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scalliano

Bottom line, It's a copyright issue. Regardless of whether FiveM facilitates pirates or not, it is still a clear violation of their copyright statement. There's really nothing to debate.

Why hasn't it been officially C&D'd then? Strictly speaking, ALL mods fall foul of copyright statements, but history has shown that only those which actively infringe on intellectual property are the targets of actual cease and desist orders. FiveM contains no ripped assets or code.

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CrysisAverted

People mod

R* bans them then says modding is ok but not on R* Online servers

People mod on non R* servers

R* s-stop I'll b-ban you

 

f*cking dammit R* f*ck off, this move is overall just f*cking over those who actually bought the game since pirates lose nothing.

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Sam Lake

GTA 5 has the saddest start of all GTAs (ye gta 4 had poor performance and still has)

1st they ban in online for FOV mod

2nd malware got hidden in 2 mods

3rd lowering down perfomance via patches and broking fun mods (but not online trainers) via junk code

And now this, it's like R* wants to make this game look bad for PC players (ye i know 2nd isn't R* fault but still it needs to be said)

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TheFlareEntercounter

Clearly, they want to kill the project because it is a direct competitor, that much is pretty clear, there is not other way to look at it.

Just shows how much potential FiveM has to destroy GTA Online. Rockstar seriously needs to step their game up with Online and not just take the coward's way out when competition appears. Edited by TheFlareEntercounter
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Veroder

I've always been a big fan of Rockstar, but sh*tty work conditions at their offices and other bullsh*t like this has changed that. Good games don't make up for your sh*tty ethics. Seriously, get off your high horse already and treat your customers and employees like f*cking humans already.

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Silent

I've always been a big fan of Rockstar, but sh*tty work conditions at their offices and other bullsh*t like this has changed that. Good games don't make up for your sh*tty ethics. Seriously, get off your high horse already and treat your customers and employees like f*cking humans already.

^ this

 

That's why even though indie companies might produce worse/boring/short games, they seem like one way to get the industry back to the state where it's fun to work on games.

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PhillBellic

 

I've always been a big fan of Rockstar, but sh*tty work conditions at their offices and other bullsh*t like this has changed that. Good games don't make up for your sh*tty ethics. Seriously, get off your high horse already and treat your customers and employees like f*cking humans already.

^ this

 

That's why even though indie companies might produce worse/boring/short games, they seem like one way to get the industry back to the state where it's fun to work on games.

 

Do you think another Video/Computer Game Crash (similar to the 1983 Crash) is needed?

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Silent

Do you think another Video/Computer Game Crash (similar to the 1983 Crash) is needed?

No clue... what was it about?

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PhillBellic

 

Do you think another Video/Computer Game Crash (similar to the 1983 Crash) is needed?

No clue... what was it about?

 

You haven't heard about this Event?

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Alvarez

We must donate FiveM developers some money for new accounts, so they can go on with their work and not to be counted as criminals.

 

As bad this may sound, because this would mean more several sold copies for Rockstar, i think this would be acceptable.

 

I pledged my 5 Euros, anyone else?

 

http://fivem.net/

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Sam Lake

Sorry but supportin to buy GTA5 again is BS, only who gets actually money from this is R*.

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fefenc
<insert childish trolling here>

 

 

Still, you ain't worse than Xxenox, try harder buddy :)

 

BTW, I wonder if Ubistar will go after the guys behind GTA-MP aswell

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Alvarez

Sorry but supportin to buy GTA5 again is BS, only who gets actually money from this is R*.

Well, the fellows have something to work on to, without actually resorting to piracy, aren't they?

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Sam Lake

They bought? ye they do, if they buy another copy R* can ban them again. They have legal copy, but R* is c*nt and won't let them play it.

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theNGclan

 

<insert childish trolling here>

 

 

Still, you ain't worse than Xxenox, try harder buddy :)

 

BTW, I wonder if Ubistar will go after the guys behind GTA-MP aswell

>Calls me Childish

>sh*tposts with sh*tty names like Ubistar

 

You know you'll continue to suck Rockstar's tits as more of their games get released. We can see right through the your bullsh*t. Quit being an aspie.

 

Anyhow, if FiveM removes the social club hooking it should be just fine.

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southparkmayor

We are the minority here. There are millions of players (especially Console kiddies) who'll eat up R*'s bullsh*t.

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XenoxX

R*s statement was that FIveM did support Piracy,

also the SC hook in FiveM did not check for a legal copy of the game but was there to be able to seperate players, as stated by one of the FiveM developers.

 

Since Pirated Copies were able to use the MP Mod, I can see a reason why R* banned them, however, they could have just used COMMUNICATION, would have been much easier.

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theNGclan

R*s statement was that FIveM did support Piracy,

also the SC hook in FiveM did not check for a legal copy of the game but was there to be able to seperate players, as stated by one of the FiveM developers.

What the actual f*ck are you even talking about? The Social Club hook was to fetch your Social Club ID and verify that you legally own the game. You have no clue what you're talking about. Quit talking out your ass.

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XenoxX

R*s statement was that FIveM did support Piracy,

also the SC hook in FiveM did not check for a legal copy of the game but was there to be able to seperate players, as stated by one of the FiveM developers.

What the actual f*ck are you even talking about? The Social Club hook was to fetch your Social Club ID and verify that you legally own the game. You have no clue what you're talking about. Quit talking out your ass.Nope.

Its true.

Source:

 

 

FiveM's use of the Rockstar Social Club login does not guarantee ownership of the game, Eurogamer has been told by a user familiar with the mod.

Instead, the hookup to Rockstar's service was included as part of the mod's identification system, used to determine unique players on FiveM's dedicated servers.

But even without a user check, why did Rockstar ban those behind it? The developer has yet to comment.

 

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-08-10-rockstar-bans-gta5-modders-who-made-their-own-multiplayer

 

 

 

Also this was posted by IceDream, one of the people involved in the development on Reddit:

 

 

[]icedream2k9 [/size]9 Punkte[/size]

vor 2 Tagen *

 

 

Some of these articles have wrong information, here's a summary:

  • "The mod requires a Rockstar Social Club login [...] to ensure that only people who owned the game could play online." FiveM does not use RGSC to verify your ownership of the game. The login is only used for identification purposes so that you can act as a unique player on dedicated servers. People who used cracked or ripped game files use FiveM on their own risk and eventually will only end up with FiveM crashing on their computers.

 

R*s statement was that FIveM did support Piracy,

also the SC hook in FiveM did not check for a legal copy of the game but was there to be able to seperate players, as stated by one of the FiveM developers.

What the actual f*ck are you even talking about? The Social Club hook was to fetch your Social Club ID and verify that you legally own the game. You have no clue what you're talking about. Quit talking out your ass.Who is now "talking out of his ass" huh ?

 

Yes indeed you!

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theNGclan

If the game crashes if you play FiveM with a crack then that means that they've' done something to sabotage the gameplay experience for the greedy pirate communities. So I got curious and used a crack on a separate machine just to see if this is true. The game won't let me proceed beyond the Social Club login before crashing. It only works if I select my Steam account instead. Now how is it that if it doesn't do some sort of entitlement check it crashes? Even GTA V's Story Mode does an entitlement check when loading! If there isn't an anti-piracy tidbit in the application then this nonsense wouldn't be happening. Bullsh*t. Bull-f*cking-sh*t.

 

Xenox, you're loopy as sh*t. Research, motherf*cker, do it.

 

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EDIT: The crack doesn't use a false dummy RGSC account. It just goes into Offline mode. You can still play FiveM on a normal installation in Offline mode. I'm going to search around for more of these cracks and see if the same exact result occurs. I welcome you to do so and try this whole thing out for yourself.

 

Oh, and next time don't forget to edit your post instead of double posting. Takes the same amount of effort, if not less, to do so. You're gonna banned for sh*tposting. I can already see that.

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C06alt

None of the mods I ever created check to see if the game is owned by the player and I think this is asking to much of mod creators.

After all even professional game protection company's have all there efforts circumvented in 5 minutes by the cracking crews so even if FiveM checked for ownership some douche would come along and crack it for pirates in minutes.

Game protection on PC is a waste of human resources.

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scalliano

So let me get this straight - FiveM doesn't actively check for ownership, granted, but it doesn't work properly if it is unable to retrieve the user's ID?

 

Yeah, "designed to facilitate piracy" my left testicle.

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XenoxX

If the game crashes if you play FiveM with a crack then that means that they've' done something to sabotage the gameplay experience for the greedy pirate communities. So I got curious and used a crack on a separate machine just to see if this is true. The game won't let me proceed beyond the Social Club login before crashing. It only works if I select my Steam account instead. Now how is it that if it doesn't do some sort of entitlement check it crashes? Even GTA V's Story Mode does an entitlement check when loading! If there isn't an anti-piracy tidbit in the application then this nonsense wouldn't be happening. Bullsh*t. Bull-f*cking-sh*t.

 

Xenox, you're loopy as sh*t. Research, motherf*cker, do it.

 

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EDIT: The crack doesn't use a false dummy RGSC account. It just goes into Offline mode. You can still play FiveM on a normal installation in Offline mode. I'm going to search around for more of these cracks and see if the same exact result occurs. I welcome you to do so and try this whole thing out for yourself.

 

Oh, and next time don't forget to edit your post instead of double posting. Takes the same amount of effort, if not less, to do so. You're gonna banned for sh*tposting. I can already see that.

As Icedream, one of the developers said, it is not MEANT to block Piracy.

 

I quoted sources, you did nothing but insult me.

 

Without any evidence whatsoever, you claim your point.

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TJGM

@XenoxX not sure why you're reporting @theNGclan for insults, what do you expect when you're spreading false information and literally believing everything you see on a news site without doing any research yourself?

 

EDIT: Also don't believe any 'developers' unless it's directly from @NTAuthority.

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XenoxX

@XenoxX not sure why you're reporting @theNGclan for insults, what do you expect when you're spreading false information and literally believing everything you see on a news site without doing any research yourself?

 

EDIT: Also don't believe any 'developers' unless it's directly from @NTAuthority.

Spreading false information ?

I backed up every single information of mine via quotes from the subreddit and offcial articles,

 

Simple reason I reported him is because he called me litrally a "motherf*cker".

Its an insult, do your job.

 

If I am allowed somehow to insult people just because they publish presumably false information, I cant see where we are going.

You are clearly biased.

 

If the game crashes if you play FiveM with a crack then that means that they've' done something to sabotage the gameplay experience for the greedy pirate communities. So I got curious and used a crack on a separate machine just to see if this is true. The game won't let me proceed beyond the Social Club login before crashing. It only works if I select my Steam account instead. Now how is it that if it doesn't do some sort of entitlement check it crashes? Even GTA V's Story Mode does an entitlement check when loading! If there isn't an anti-piracy tidbit in the application then this nonsense wouldn't be happening. Bullsh*t. Bull-f*cking-sh*t.

 

Xenox, you're loopy as sh*t. Research, motherf*cker, do it.

 

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EDIT: The crack doesn't use a false dummy RGSC account. It just goes into Offline mode. You can still play FiveM on a normal installation in Offline mode. I'm going to search around for more of these cracks and see if the same exact result occurs. I welcome you to do so and try this whole thing out for yourself.

 

Oh, and next time don't forget to edit your post instead of double posting. Takes the same amount of effort, if not less, to do so. You're gonna banned for sh*tposting. I can already see that.

Double posting ?

 

There is no difference in my post above since it merged to one post...

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BunnyPig

Anyone got any information from NTA? He's the only reliable source here since he's the leader of the project. All other information can't really be considered as true.

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TJGM

 

@XenoxX not sure why you're reporting @theNGclan for insults, what do you expect when you're spreading false information and literally believing everything you see on a news site without doing any research yourself?

 

EDIT: Also don't believe any 'developers' unless it's directly from @NTAuthority.

Spreading false information ?

I backed up every single information of mine via quotes from the subreddit and offcial articles,

 

Simple reason I reported him is because he called me litrally a "motherf*cker".

Its an insult, do your job.

 

If I am allowed somehow to insult people just because they publish presumably false information, I cant see where we are going.

You are clearly biased.

 

If the game crashes if you play FiveM with a crack then that means that they've' done something to sabotage the gameplay experience for the greedy pirate communities. So I got curious and used a crack on a separate machine just to see if this is true. The game won't let me proceed beyond the Social Club login before crashing. It only works if I select my Steam account instead. Now how is it that if it doesn't do some sort of entitlement check it crashes? Even GTA V's Story Mode does an entitlement check when loading! If there isn't an anti-piracy tidbit in the application then this nonsense wouldn't be happening. Bullsh*t. Bull-f*cking-sh*t.

 

Xenox, you're loopy as sh*t. Research, motherf*cker, do it.

 

___________________________________________________

 

EDIT: The crack doesn't use a false dummy RGSC account. It just goes into Offline mode. You can still play FiveM on a normal installation in Offline mode. I'm going to search around for more of these cracks and see if the same exact result occurs. I welcome you to do so and try this whole thing out for yourself.

 

Oh, and next time don't forget to edit your post instead of double posting. Takes the same amount of effort, if not less, to do so. You're gonna banned for sh*tposting. I can already see that.

Double posting ?

 

There is no difference in my post above since it merged to one post...

 

Your sources aren't exactly the most reliable places for information. Yes, you doubled posted too, I had to merge it into one post. If you get upset by being called a "motherf*cker" during an argument than you shouldn't be on the internet.

 

NTA said he has 30 minutes of internet a day, pretty sure he's only on mobile too. According to Ash..

 

They said is faciliated piracy, as in gave people a reason to pirate the game, which was false, FiveM can't be used as a crack for GTAV or GTAO, it just happens to work with some cracked EXE's but it's not designed for them, only focused on official EXE's.

 

Ash also mentioned that the reason for the social club hook is just to keep things organised and official with character names and so on. Ash's source is NTA who confirmed that this was the reason for the social club hook and why Rockstar banned him and other people associated with the mod.

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XenoxX

 

 

@XenoxX not sure why you're reporting @theNGclan for insults, what do you expect when you're spreading false information and literally believing everything you see on a news site without doing any research yourself?

 

EDIT: Also don't believe any 'developers' unless it's directly from @NTAuthority.

Spreading false information ?

I backed up every single information of mine via quotes from the subreddit and offcial articles,

 

Simple reason I reported him is because he called me litrally a "motherf*cker".

Its an insult, do your job.

 

If I am allowed somehow to insult people just because they publish presumably false information, I cant see where we are going.

You are clearly biased.

 

If the game crashes if you play FiveM with a crack then that means that they've' done something to sabotage the gameplay experience for the greedy pirate communities. So I got curious and used a crack on a separate machine just to see if this is true. The game won't let me proceed beyond the Social Club login before crashing. It only works if I select my Steam account instead. Now how is it that if it doesn't do some sort of entitlement check it crashes? Even GTA V's Story Mode does an entitlement check when loading! If there isn't an anti-piracy tidbit in the application then this nonsense wouldn't be happening. Bullsh*t. Bull-f*cking-sh*t.

 

Xenox, you're loopy as sh*t. Research, motherf*cker, do it.

 

___________________________________________________

 

EDIT: The crack doesn't use a false dummy RGSC account. It just goes into Offline mode. You can still play FiveM on a normal installation in Offline mode. I'm going to search around for more of these cracks and see if the same exact result occurs. I welcome you to do so and try this whole thing out for yourself.

 

Oh, and next time don't forget to edit your post instead of double posting. Takes the same amount of effort, if not less, to do so. You're gonna banned for sh*tposting. I can already see that.

Double posting ?

 

There is no difference in my post above since it merged to one post...

 

Your sources aren't exactly the most reliable places for information. Yes, you doubled posted too, I had to merge it into one post. If you get upset by being called a "motherf*cker" during an argument than you shouldn't be on the internet.

 

NTA said he has 30 minutes of internet a day, pretty sure he's only on mobile too. According to Ash..

 

They said is faciliated piracy, as in gave people a reason to pirate the game, which was false, FiveM can't be used as a crack for GTAV or GTAO, it just happens to work with some cracked EXE's but it's not designed for them, only focused on official EXE's.

 

Ash also mentioned that the reason for the social club hook is just to keep things organised and official with character names and so on. Ash's source is NTA who confirmed that this was the reason for the social club hook and why Rockstar banned him and other people associated with the mod.

 

So I am somehow allowed to call everyone here a "motherf*cker" because we are on the Internet ?

 

This isnt Twitter or Reddit, this is a MODERATED Forum, you are here to punish/warn people who cannot communicate without the use of insults.

 

Anyway you seem way to biased so I just reported this particular incident to an Admin, just to be sure.

If his post doesnt get deleted, when I have a reason to call everyone here a "motherf*cker"...since yea we are on the Internet ...

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