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RussianFighter

Movement on the SteamDB page for both IV and EFLC

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etayorius

Another small update, could it be that they are about to release what ever they were Beta Testing?

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sammystarock

If this whole SecuROM and GFWL crap gets throwed into the garbage bin, where it belongs, I will absolutely rebuy GTA IV & EFLC on Steam.
Sounds too good to be true though.

Edited by mistersam

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etayorius

We are just speculating... i personally have no idea what they are doing, for all we know it could be a removal of songs due to lincenses, since GTA-SA and GTA-VC both have been updated the exact same dates on SteamDB as GTA4, and we know for a fact that Rockstar is bringing original songs for those titles... it`s driving me mad, if Rockstar does not remove SecuRom and GFWL from GTA4 i will lose a ton of respect for them, since GTA4 and EFLC are few of the AAA titles still with that crap.

 

So i would advise not to get your hopes up and remain with low expecations with these particular patches.

Edited by etayorius

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sammystarock

I'm always with low expectations when it comes to R* related stuff.
I just said that in case it still happens, I will rebuy the games. I'm not hoping for it, it's just a possibility. Who knows?

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etayorius

Since the Beta branch was removed 20 days ago, i would be safe to say if by mid-late January we don`t see any movement or release, then what ever they were beta testing, they probably decided against releasing.

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TWIST_OF_HATE

I lost hope on this update ...

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etayorius

Hang in there, beta testing can take anywhere from 2-6 months is just been 4 months since they started messing with SteamDB and the added (now removed) Beta Branch... let just wait till Late January 2016, they are also doing moves on the exact same dates on SteamDB with GTA-SA, GTA-VC, EFLC and Max Payne 3, i have a feeling they may release them on Linux and if so, there is no way GFWL can work there, so they may just be working on removing it... or at least fix SecuRom issues with Win10. Remember it took CodeMasters a year and a half to completely remove GFWL to Dirt3, it was so much work they decided to just remove Dirt2 from sale instead of removing GFWL for that title.

 

Another option is they are trying to integrate Social Club into their most popular games, Rockstar loves DRM, the more the better for them. But I really don`t see them integrate Steamworks to any of their games.

 

 

EDIT

 

One of my old time friends and hardcore Linux and anti Windows friend just told me he saw a BETA Option to instal GTA4... i asked him for a screen of his claims, he said he will as soon as he gets home...

Edited by etayorius

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sammystarock
One of my old time friends and hardcore Linux and anti Windows friend just told me he saw a BETA Option to instal GTA4... i asked him for a screen of his claims, he said he will as soon as he gets home...

Good lord, this is getting interesting. :panic:

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cryptorelic

Huh, what, where ?

 

Can i finally rescue my Grand Theft Auto IV from Patch 1.0.4.0 since all that garbage will be gone ?

 

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One of my old time friends and hardcore Linux and anti Windows friend just told me he saw a BETA Option to instal GTA4... i asked him for a screen of his claims, he said he will as soon as he gets home...

Linux/SteamOS version makes sence. (especially for San Andreas, that GTA is on every f*cking platform today)

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etayorius

Still trying to confirm his claims, i have not seen him online... i even tried to install a virtual machine with ZorinOS and install steam just to see if it is actually true, but for some reason Steam does not run in my virtual machine.

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George Costanza

Pic from ubuntu (i have all GTAs on steam expect V, i even have GTA1 and 2

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etayorius

What a bummer... it was too good to be true.

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etayorius

I still have hope.

 

Also, this:

https://steamdb.info/app/271070/

 

Seems to be just a Bundle Pack of GTA4 and SA, nothing special. They`re definitely going to do something with the game... exactly what, remains to be seen. But i do not expect better performance or stuff like that, most likely removal of SecuROM... and i am not so sure about GFWL, but i can only hope.

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RussianFighter

 

I still have hope.

 

Also, this:

https://steamdb.info/app/271070/

 

Seems to be just a Bundle Pack of GTA4 and SA, nothing special. They`re definitely going to do something with the game... exactly what, remains to be seen. But i do not expect better performance or stuff like that, most likely removal of SecuROM... and i am not so sure about GFWL, but i can only hope.

 

 

Removing SecuRom alone, is a performance fix.

The same (or similar) drm was included in Battlefield Bad Company 2 and with the last patch, they removed SecuROM and lo and behold, performance fixes out of the blue. :D

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sammystarock

Removing SecuRom alone, is a performance fix.

The same (or similar) drm was included in Battlefield Bad Company 2 and with the last patch, they removed SecuROM and lo and behold, performance fixes out of the blue. :D

Is it? I don't know much about that, but I really hope so.

Oh man, no SecuRom and GFWL... It sounds too good to be true.

Edited by sammystarock

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Removing SecuRom alone, is a performance fix.

The same (or similar) drm was included in Battlefield Bad Company 2 and with the last patch, they removed SecuROM and lo and behold, performance fixes out of the blue. :D

Is it? I don't know much about that, but I really hope so.

Oh man, no SecuRom and GFWL... It sounds too good to be true.

 

If they did Remove them, I'd hope the Disc based Copies are also updated. :^:

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CartmanKusanagi

Arkham Asylum and City used GFWL before moving to Steamworks. IIRC the retail keys could be redeemed on Steam once the switch happened (at least for Asylum). Hopefully IV follows suit if it ditches GWFL, too.

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Reason

anything new?

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PhillBellic

anything new?

Doesn't appear to be anything new. :/

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etayorius

No, nothing to report... there has been no updates on SteamDB, it took CodeMaster year and a half to remove GFWL completely from Dirt3 and they both kinda use the same system. SteamDB reports that a Beta started being tested 5 months ago in July/August... so it could take them quite a while to remove GWFL Crap, i guess SecuRom would be much much easier to remove...

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Reason

so even with xliveless im stuck dealing with securom and gfwl?

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etayorius

so even with xliveless im stuck dealing with securom and gfwl?

 

I think xliveless just removes gfwl, but it also kills the MP aspect of the game. SecuRom should still be there even using xliveless.

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El Dorado

You can run the gtaiv.exe directly to get rid of securom. But then... drunk cam

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so even with xliveless im stuck dealing with securom and gfwl?

 

I think xliveless just removes gfwl, but it also kills the MP aspect of the game. SecuRom should still be there even using xliveless.

 

 

 

You can run the gtaiv.exe directly to get rid of securom. But then... drunk cam

so i can get rid of GFWL and Social club but Securom cant be disabled?

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etayorius

 

 

so even with xliveless im stuck dealing with securom and gfwl?

 

I think xliveless just removes gfwl, but it also kills the MP aspect of the game. SecuRom should still be there even using xliveless.

 

 

 

You can run the gtaiv.exe directly to get rid of securom. But then... drunk cam

so i can get rid of GFWL and Social club but Securom cant be disabled?

 

 

Pretty much, but disabling GFWL will also disable Multiplayer, unless you are only interested in the Singleplayer but i have no idea if saving works with Xliveless.

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so even with xliveless im stuck dealing with securom and gfwl?

I think xliveless just removes gfwl, but it also kills the MP aspect of the game. SecuRom should still be there even using xliveless.

 

 

You can run the gtaiv.exe directly to get rid of securom. But then... drunk cam

so i can get rid of GFWL and Social club but Securom cant be disabled?

 

Pretty much, but disabling GFWL will also disable Multiplayer, unless you are only interested in the Singleplayer but i have no idea if saving works with Xliveless.

Saving works with Xliveless

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so even with xliveless im stuck dealing with securom and gfwl?

 

I think xliveless just removes gfwl, but it also kills the MP aspect of the game. SecuRom should still be there even using xliveless.

 

 

 

You can run the gtaiv.exe directly to get rid of securom. But then... drunk cam

so i can get rid of GFWL and Social club but Securom cant be disabled?

 

 

Pretty much, but disabling GFWL will also disable Multiplayer, unless you are only interested in the Singleplayer but i have no idea if saving works with Xliveless.

 

i dont care about multiplayer. Lol

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BlackScout

They could still "port" the Multiplayer to RGSC.

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