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Miss Malevolent

Is it only new folks that use, EASY and NORMAL for heist setups?

Easy or Normal for Setups...  

179 members have voted

  1. 1. Are you a new player that uses Easy/Normal for setups?

    • Yes
      8
    • No
      171
  2. 2. Are you a veteran player that uses Easy/Normal for setups?

    • Yes
      61
    • No
      118
  3. 3. Why do you use EASY/NORMAL for setups?

    • It's easier on me because as host, I have some cushion room for randoms that mess up all the time.
      68
    • I'm not getting paid anyway, so what do I care if randoms get less money out of a setup?
      24
    • I never use EASY/NORMAL for setups, HARD all the way!
      111


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Miss Malevolent

Okay for myself, I only use HARD for setups. Maximum RP/Money.

 

But yesterday I was heist hopping, and as per usual when I see that the setup is set to EASY/NORMAL...I message the Host to change the difficulty and the exchange went something like this:

 

ME: "Hey, can you change the setup to HARD since you're not making the enemies any easier, and the only thing you're gaining is a loss of money for more lives."

 

HIM/HER: "What does it matter? I'm not getting paid for them anyway?"

 

ME: "You know, that's very true."

 

Of course, after I finished that setup, I declined to help with the others, because $52000 is more than $41000...even though the host had a very valid point.

 

So I wonder, do you set your heists to EASY/NORMAL since you're not feeling the pinch of a lower payout?

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Turkish Turketarian

I don't host heists anymore, but when I did I played on hard... with friends. I tried with randoms but the fail rate was high when playing on hard. One would almost always die which would lead to someone else getting frustrated and leaving.

 

I'd imagine that's probably why most people play on normal, the extra life that someone is bound to waste.

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RussianCommie

If it may be a host that is doing a particular set-up or a finale for whichever heist, I could see why they may change the difficulty to Normal, at least, because they may be unsure of what to expect and don't want to feel, as the one who may be blamed by the other players. One of the stronger reasons, so to say, of why people put the set-ups to normal, is because it leaves some room for the job to still get finished, even if someone dies. You can put a set-up on Hard and spend who knows how long with randoms on trying to get it completed or you can put the set-up on normal, glide through each one, and put the finale on Hard.

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GR Choke

When i ask hosts why is it on normal/easy its because people die

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Not A Nice Person
That isn't a very valid point, selfish more like.
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scaldy78

Yup, set it on hard while doing heists with randoms means getting nothing accomplished

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JON22

Money is moneh, even easy munny.

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Miss Malevolent

If it may be a host that is doing a particular set-up or a finale for whichever heist, I could see why they may change the difficulty to Normal, at least, because they may be unsure of what to expect and don't want to feel, as the one who may be blamed by the other players. One of the stronger reasons, so to say, of why people put the set-ups to normal, is because it leaves some room for the job to still get finished, even if someone dies. You can put a set-up on Hard and spend who knows how long with randoms on trying to get it completed or you can put the set-up on normal, glide through each one, and put the finale on Hard.

 

You know I get that people want the extra lives, for missions involving death.

 

But what about missions like, Deliver the EMP where alerting the guard fails the mission before being killed will?

 

Why would someone put a mission like that on EASY/NORMAL?

 

I get the feeling from the interaction I had, that the host was like, "f*ck you guys, I'm not getting paid so who cares what you get paid?"

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Jerking For Soup

I'm the host, so I'm not gaining anything anyway.

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RussianCommie

 

 

 

You know I get that people want the extra lives, for missions involving death.

 

But what about missions like, Deliver the EMP where alerting the guard fails the mission before being killed will.

 

Why would someone put a mission like that on EASY/NORMAL.

 

I get the feeling from the interaction I had, that the host was like, "f*ck you guys, I'm not getting paid so who cares what you get paid?"

 

 

In the instances of the stealth missions, I would guess that the host maybe thinks, if the difficulty is on Easy/Normal, that may play some role in how alert the guards are and how quick they are to respond, in the alarm triggering or what have you. However, I too would agree with your point, of the host not caring what others are going to get paid, since he/she is receiving nothing from the set-ups.

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Mottershead

I tend to stick the set-ups with the greatest chances of failure onto 'normal', and keep the rest as 'hard'.

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nWo_Y2J_2015

Okay for myself, I only use HARD for setups. Maximum RP/Money.

 

But yesterday I was heist hopping, and as per usual when I see that the setup is set to EASY/NORMAL...I message the Host to change the difficulty and the exchange went something like this:

 

ME: "Hey, can you change the setup to HARD since you're not making the enemies any easier, and the only thing you're gaining is a loss of money for more lives."

 

HIM/HER: "What does it matter? I'm not getting paid for them anyway?"

 

ME: "You know, that's very true."

 

Of course, after I finished that setup, I declined to help with the others, because $52000 is more than $41000...even though the host had a very valid point.

 

So I wonder, do you set your heists to EASY/NORMAL since you're not feeling the pinch of a lower payout?

1. A whole $11,000 less, darn, yet you actually get paid for completing the setup, not putting it on Hard and watching someone die repeatedly.

2. I always set the difficulty to Normal, unless I'm with friends, that way I can get through the setups and make some money on the finale on Hard.

3. Easy difficulty would be stupid though, considering no one would want to join.

 

My System:

 

Setups - Normal Difficulty with randoms, Hard Difficulty with friends.

Finales - Hard Difficulty

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Bxx

I set on medium because gives randoms more room to mess up and still be able to complete the mission.

And being the host I honestly don't care how much you get paid, seeing you are a random you probably won't stick with me on the next setups or even the finale so whatever, I just want to get this done asap.

 

Finales I only do on hard tho, I don't care if we fail some times, I want that moolah.

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craigdyid

I'm level 124, use easy, normal and hard for set ups depending on what set up it is.

 

If it's a Fleeca set up I'll put it on hard.

 

Prison Break set ups are all normal.

 

Humane Labs are all normal except the one's where you obtain and deliver the EMP which I put on hard.

 

Seires A coke.. sometimes normal sometimes easy depending on what level people are.

 

Seres A trash truck I would, really, really rather be on easy but not everyone seems to accept it today. I've only ever passed trash truck once before and that was on easy as I'd had enough fails that I refused to go any harder on difficulty.

 

The rest of the set ups for other heists I go 'normal' for set ups and hard for finales.

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Creme_Brulee

I like doing it on hard of course, but I don't mind to play setups on normal if I'm doing it with randoms and they're not all lvl 100+.

But easy? Easy is just ridiculous.

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Miss Malevolent

1. A whole $11,000 less, darn, yet you actually get paid for completing the setup, not putting it on Hard and watching someone die repeatedly.

I guess that's the difference between you and me. There is no repeatedly failing. If you (random) mess up once (twice if I'm feeling generous) it's on to the next one. Friends can mess up repeatedly (and I don't really have patience for that either), but not randoms. I have no patience.

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Prodigy_Rocks_

I'm countering that person you're talking about.

Me: So, just because you don't the payout doesn't mean you can decide the payout for participants. Do you really want the best out of your participants or a hidden grudge that will unleash in a form of them quitting on you? To me it seems like you only care about yourself in a "forced co op" job.

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nWo_Y2J_2015

 

1. A whole $11,000 less, darn, yet you actually get paid for completing the setup, not putting it on Hard and watching someone die repeatedly.

I guess that's the difference between you and me. There is no repeatedly failing. If you (random) mess up once (twice if I'm feeling generous) it's on to the next one. Friends can mess up repeatedly, but not randoms. I have no patience.

 

Apparently you do, cause then the next one fails and the next one, then no one joins for 5 to 10 minutes and so on. You made no sense cause you're implying that I do have patience when I said I'd rather not watch someone die repeatedly. I use to put it only on Hard, but there just isn't any reason to do so unless I'm with friends.

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Warliss

I can see how the host would setup easy and normal, to get through or d/c cause they don't get paid

 

If I'm hired to assist your heist, hard money please... I'll do my best and exhaust my artillery not to die..

 

I can see how heist were designed with crews and communication in mind..

 

Randoms are sketchy at best.

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HelloMyNameIs...

I'm still somewhat new, so I play on normal or I at least try to. Can't get anyone to join my damn setups!! :(

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Miss Malevolent

Apparently you do, cause then the next one fails and the next one, then no one joins for 5 to 10 minutes and so on. You made no sense cause you're implying that I do have patience when I said I'd rather not watch someone die repeatedly. I use to put it only on Hard, but there just isn't any reason to do so unless I'm with friends.

It makes absolute sense to restart and find someone new. If I'm in a heist with friends, and I have one open slot and that is filled by a random, why the hell would I short my friends to coddle a random? Random goes bye bye, I fill it with a person who can do it on HARD.

 

How is that having patience? What are you speaking of? A lobby full of randoms?

 

Even in that, you play on my level, I don't come down to yours.

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Shia LaBeouf

The "I'm the host so it doesn't bother me" arguement is frustrating, you're just breeding this idea across the players that its ok to be sh*t, eventually setting it to normal or easy will be the standard.

 

Besides the host still receives the 1.5 RP (now doubled with the recent events), since the PB event I've gone from level 203 to 288. I recieved more RP from Humane Labs - EMP than finishing a survival and 'Hard Labor' combined.

BE the change, (I know someone's going to say it - Just do it!)

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Broblab

I don't host heists anymore, but when I did I played on hard... with friends. I tried with randoms but the fail rate was high when playing on hard. One would almost always die which would lead to someone else getting frustrated and leaving.

 

I'd imagine that's probably why most people play on normal, the extra life that someone is bound to waste.

hey.

 

hey.

 

...a cars airbag isnt wasted when its used.

 

that extra life is an airbag for the heist.

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Lilіth

Even when I was somewhat new I set them to Hard to ensure max payout. I can see the points of "not getting paid for them", but I've also been in instances where the host had a different crew which f*cked it up constantly and they just wanted the Setup/Heist to be done with. For me, Hard is pretty much the only way due to the payout, but also NPCs in Online are easy to take out if you align the crosshair/dot on head level and keep it there.

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nWo_Y2J_2015

 

Apparently you do, cause then the next one fails and the next one, then no one joins for 5 to 10 minutes and so on. You made no sense cause you're implying that I do have patience when I said I'd rather not watch someone die repeatedly. I use to put it only on Hard, but there just isn't any reason to do so unless I'm with friends.

It makes absolute since to restart and find someone new. If I'm in a heist with friends, and I have one open slot and that is filled by a random, why the hell would I short my friends to coddle a random? Random goes bye bye, I fill it with a person who can do it on HARD.

 

How is that having patience?

 

lol you're not always going to get someone good on the 2nd attempt. Sometimes yes, but more often than not it'll be another fail, especially with low-ranks who have no health. I'd rather just get it done and get to the finale so I can get paid. Not start a setup, someone dies, I leave, invite, start setup, someone dies, I leave. Yes, I'm talking about a lobby of randoms. When you're an adult, you're friends aren't on 24/7 so you have to rely on randoms a good bit.

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Miss Malevolent

lol you're not always going to get someone good on the 2nd attempt. Sometimes yes, but more often than not it'll be another fail, especially with low-ranks who have no health. I'd rather just get it done and get to the finale so I can get paid. Not start a setup, someone dies, I leave, invite, start setup, someone dies, I leave.

I'd rather my friends are paid appropriately than stoop down to the lowest common denominator.

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nWo_Y2J_2015

 

lol you're not always going to get someone good on the 2nd attempt. Sometimes yes, but more often than not it'll be another fail, especially with low-ranks who have no health. I'd rather just get it done and get to the finale so I can get paid. Not start a setup, someone dies, I leave, invite, start setup, someone dies, I leave.

I'd rather my friends are paid appropriately than stoop down to the lowest common denominator.

 

lol, but chances are you wouldn't get paid if the "lowest common denominator" isn't perfect and dies. Read what I said about friends.............Yes, you can invite another random, but they'll probably die at least once too.

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Miss Malevolent

lol, but chances are you wouldn't get paid if the "lowest common denominator" isn't perfect and dies. Read what I said about friends.............Yes, you can invite another random, but they'll probably die at least once too.

I read what you said about friends. It does not apply...at any given hour I have someone I can join or can join me. I get invites on my PSN APP while at work...so I'm not in short supply of people to play with, and thus have never had to play with a lobby FULL of randoms...unless I'M lobby hopping...which is what sparked this post.

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nWo_Y2J_2015

 

lol, but chances are you wouldn't get paid if the "lowest common denominator" isn't perfect and dies. Read what I said about friends.............Yes, you can invite another random, but they'll probably die at least once too.

I read what you said about friends. It does not apply...at any given hour I have someone I can join or can join me. I get invites on my PSN APP while at work...so I'm not in short supply of people to play with, and thus have never had to play with a lobby FULL of randoms...unless I'M lobby hopping...which is what sparked this post.

 

It does apply, since most of those friends and invites are probably kids that can be on 24/7.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

If i just had slews of randumbs that fail a prep i dare to switch to easy or normal.

After all it is not my fault if most people are to soft to properly complete the "bikers prep" on the pacific standard

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