Will Rockstar patch the ability for us to use Karuma in final heist?

[Alvarez]

AI Aimbots? Helicopters? Bad bike skills?

 

Don't forget the Civil Courage Mode that is being engaged by the traffic. These f*ckers WILL spawn in your path right behind the bend! And if you survive, the cops nearby will shoot you up to bloody pulp, because they WILL be nearby.

[Halal Cyborg]

It is also way quicker on the bikes so if taking it in turns to host you make money faster, probably save enough time for the initial host to host again...this must be why people are poor.

 

It's not a glitch, just an unintended tactic.

 

You'd think that they would have patched it by now if they could, but they haven't so I'm assuming it would require an entire re-do of how entering apartments work and they figure it isn't worth the hassle when 75%+ users have no clue about it.

 

Also, I'm still confused why TigOlBitties always complains that people die jumping out of the Kuruma. You don't even have to jump out of the Karuma. The thing is so heavily armored you can just crash it down the mountain.

I have done the Kuruma escape more times than I can digest. The Kuruma jump is the least offensive of all of them but it still only takes one noob who can't time it or figure out how to get off his back during the fall to ruin the whole thing.

 

My criticism (despite the repeated misrepresentations of that other poster) is based on results. Some of you ignored my post and insisted that driving the car down the side of the mountain is safe. Those who believe this aren't basing their opinion on results as they clearly don't notice that a bad bounce frequently damages the money bag.

 

The single most effective way of getting the most money from the finale is the one that lets all players participate--get on the bike and follow the designated route. Let the most skilled rider with the cash drive ahead of the other three UNTIL you get to the bridge where two cops are waiting. Another player rides ahead and takes them out and continues on to the remaining cop on the top of the hill.

 

My average take with bikes is about 1.24 million.

 

My average take after being forced into another idiotic Kuruma escape heist leader is about 1.18 million with money being lost during the drive from collisions with cars, crashes into the side of the mountain and in those cases where the genius driver has brought cops to the river, getting shot while getting into the boat.

Same, we always get full take near enough on bikes...whenever money guy has been in kuruma he has lost more.

[oleg_aka_djmeg]

Karuma

 

[Overlord Jr.]

not having full take from kuruma to boat just means your driver/crew is too sh*t to keep the cops away, given that not only it protects most bullets but also reduces wanted to 2 stars for the most part, kuruma gets enough time to parachute or drive down cliff, common mistake is taking ocean or non GPS route which makes cop aggressive, I even had a full run with kuruma hot boarding(taking the route south of alamo sea river and before the train tunnel entrance, driving down to boat and river route in the last moment which the cops are yet to spawn). it all comes down to whether you are playing with randumbs or a 4 man CMM crew and even with a crew that's competent, you cannot guarantee full take every time, it's a matter of luck whether cops decide to pop a magic bullet somewhere during the heist and the chance increases dramatically if the network is bad which is most of the time

Edited July 14, 2015 by Overlord Jr.

[TheKingChivas]

 

Exactly this, you lose nothing but always lose something with the kuruma.

 

 

Once again, bullsh*t...generally, the worst I'll lose is 7K, but it isn't that hard not to lose anything in the Kuruma. I don't know who you're playing with who loses all this cash that way.

[Halal Cyborg]

 

Exactly this, you lose nothing but always lose something with the kuruma.

 

Once again, bullsh*t...generally, the worst I'll lose is 7K, but it isn't that hard not to lose anything in the Kuruma. I don't know who you're playing with who loses all this cash that way.

Fair enough, do you take all the money?

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Every time I use the kuruma I take the full 1.25 so I don't know why people are hating on it...

You use your method and f*cking leave me to do mine geez people always minding what others are doing now days.

If you want to take the bike, go ahead but when I take my kuruma, mind your f*cking business...

Kinda this.

I dont care what someone does,for my part they drive a regina to the mountains...they just are suposed to stay alive.

If i host i take the money though...and the bike...straight to the boat unless there is someone with me to take what i call the "full score" way

[bossofzeeland]

Am I the only one that has never done the finale of this heist?

[TheKingChivas]

 

 

Exactly this, you lose nothing but always lose something with the kuruma.

 

Once again, bullsh*t...generally, the worst I'll lose is 7K, but it isn't that hard not to lose anything in the Kuruma. I don't know who you're playing with who loses all this cash that way.

Fair enough, do you take all the money?

 

 

Almost always within 30K, and usually that's from the journey to the bikes. Honestly, once you've lost anything, anything over $1.2M is more or less the same.

 

Mind you, I'm certainly not faulting using the bikes and I would never deny that you can get the full amount using the bikes. I'm only defending that in no way do you risk losing more money in the Kuruma. Exposed vs not exposed encased in a bulletproof vehicle...the odds should be in the Kuruma's favor.

 

 

Am I the only one that has never done the finale of this heist?

 

Yes.

[Razar]

Technically this method is the best if you get only one player to take all the cash, try to protect him/her as much as possible, arrive to the Lectros, take the Kuruma and then follow the checkpoints in the Canyon (So you will lose the wanted level). I almost get the max possible, averagely losing only 10-20k from the full lot everytime we use this method in random lobbies, can't say the same when using bikes.

Edited July 14, 2015 by TheIceWarrior

[TheNarrative]

Lester does tell us to go his suggested route or whatever way you like so I can't see it being patched now, 4 months later.

Then again they did patch the chopper method...

[JaysonVoorhees]

The tactic is ok I guess but why does everyone just drive straight to the boat instead of doing the jump to lose the wanted level?

 

Money carrier always gets shot quite a bit and loses more money than they would doing it normally. Is there an element of risk doing the jump too? Sure, but I use slower police vehicles for it fairly often and I've only ever fudged it once (and that time everyone but me got out fine, I stumbled down some rocks, but still got to the boat in time).

 

R* already know about this tactic for sure. How much we talk about it, is irrelevant.

Edited July 14, 2015 by JaysonVoorhees

[TheKingChivas]

The tactic is ok I guess but why does everyone just drive straight to the boat instead of doing the jump to lose the wanted level?

 

Money carrier always gets shot quite a bit and loses more money than they would doing it normally. Is there an element of risk doing the jump too? Sure, but I use slower police vehicles for it fairly often and I've only ever fudged it once (and that time everyone but me got out fine, I stumbled down some rocks, but still got to the boat in time).

 

R* already know about this tactic for sure. How much we talk about it, is irrelevant.

 

Depending on how you launch, the car can twist, possibly leading to a teammate eating the mountain.

[The Lone Wanderer]

who cares, the police riot is just as good.

[TCA]

If you guys keep talking about it and drawing attention to it, yes they will.

THIS!

The tactic is ok I guess but why does everyone just drive straight to the boat instead of doing the jump to lose the wanted level?

 

Money carrier always gets shot quite a bit and loses more money than they would doing it normally. Is there an element of risk doing the jump too? Sure, but I use slower police vehicles for it fairly often and I've only ever fudged it once (and that time everyone but me got out fine, I stumbled down some rocks, but still got to the boat in time).

 

R* already know about this tactic for sure. How much we talk about it, is irrelevant.

If they stay ducked in the car they're fine unless the driver crashes, you can lose money.

[elfoam]

Lol

 

Seriously why does everyone call it the karuma?

Americans and those that speak American corrupted English like to use a‘s everywhere. They cant spell Avocado for example even those its the most famous native fruit of the Americas. Go figure.

[blacknambala]

Use whatever method that has been agreed upon by the majority.

 

If your using the Kuruma method, sometimes after driving out of the garage, the wanted level stays at 2, until you reach the mountain tunnel. Follow the Lester route and do not shoot at all. Less shooting means less of an aggressive response from the Police. Once you get to the final marker, steer the car to the right of the jump off, and hold down on R1 immediately after takeoff. Holding R1 helps to stabilize the car in flight, whilst making slight adjustments to keep the car level using the left stick.

 

Try and aim to land the car on all four wheels as gently as possible. If done correctly you'll lose nothing in the take. However, granted, sometimes things can go wrong and you may land awkwardly and lose 8 to 15k depending on the landing. If you land roof upside down, it's game over. No amount of armour will save you and your crew from a fiery explosive death.

 

Personally, I prefer the bike method and following the lester route. Taking any other route is risky. Regardless of method, deviating from the route can sometimes, roduce results. Other times it can be a reciepe for disaster - depending on the severity of the response from the air and road police units.

 

Above all make sure you all agree as a group before hand, which route and method you all feel that will minimize failure.

[Scuba 21]

 

 

God, I hope so.

 

It's such a stupid method. It almost always results in less cash at end of heist yet players have convinced themselves that it's the better method. If you bring cops to the boat using this method, the player carrying the money will undoubtedly get shot and lose cash. If you don't bring cops to the boat, it's because you drove the car down a hill, bouncing along the way and damaging the money bag. Either way, you lose cash.

 

Learn to ride the bike. It gives all four players something to do rather than sit inside a car for five minutes.

There's at least 3 ways to get a vehicle to the dinghy and lose the wanted level. You should never be dealing with cops at the end unless you're short on time and thus go directly to boat.

 

You only lose money while driving if you hit an immovable object. That applies to the ride there as well and not just "bouncing" down the hill.

 

And are you really suggesting you want to give all 4 players something to do during the chase?

 

An outrageous suggestion? I don't know about you but I don't play video games for the purposes of watching another player drive the car while I wait and wait and wait to exit a vehicle and climb into a boat.

 

P.S. Yes, the driver loses money when he has a hard collision. Are you surprised to discover that most do and you earn less with the Kuruma than the bikes?

Geez fella you misquoted again.

 

Never said anything about your suggestion being outrageous; you did. I simply asked a question.

 

And I don't care why you play video games. Heists are about teamwork. Sometimes you gotta give and take for the greater good.

 

I'm not surprised most players are bad drivers either. This lends even more credence to the Kuruma method. Typically if you can't drive a car you definitely can't ride a bike. Which is why I drive if the team chooses Kuruma and there are zero issues regardless of route taken to dinghy.

 

But you seem like you need attention so try Rambo'ing some contact missions instead if you can't sit still for a couple minutes. Rooftop Rumble is waiting for 'ya.

who cares, the police riot is just as good.

Not for losing the wanted level and helluva lot slower.

[Del Paco]

I don't give a f*ck how skilled you are. Dumb. sh*t. Happens. sh*t that puts you in an no-win situation. sh*t that will kill you no matter how fast you spam your armor/snack menu. You all know what I'm talking about because it's happened to you, yes you, even you try-hard Lectro enthusiasts. And shut yo' ugly ass up before you even THINK about trying to tell me otherwise.

Is a full payout possible on the Lectros? Yes. Is it the safest method? Far from it. You're completely exposed on a motorcycle, so ducking down does nothing to protect you. In addition, one run-in with a faulty AI, and you're off that bike, taking bullets before you can even stand up.

If you don't like using the Kuruma, then don't f*cking use it. Simple as that. Nobody cares that you're good on a bike. Seriously, nobody. Rockstar's not gonna mail you a cake for getting max payout. They're not gonna show up to your house and throw you a party for being able to drive a bike without falling off.

 

And another thing. Shut the f*ck up with all this "don't play with randoms" nonsene. Do you honestly assume that someone is terrible at video games just becuse you don't personally know them, or because you haven't previously added them to some arbitrary list of gamertags? Get the f*ck over yourself. I've learned more about this game from playing with randoms than I ever have from you elitist f*cktrolls here on the forums.

OT: I think one day it will get patched, but it's not a very high priority. If it were, they would have removed that apartment from the game altogether. If anything, the sh*tty cargobob spawn on Fleeca finale will get fixed first.

[JaysonVoorhees]

 

The tactic is ok I guess but why does everyone just drive straight to the boat instead of doing the jump to lose the wanted level?

 

Money carrier always gets shot quite a bit and loses more money than they would doing it normally. Is there an element of risk doing the jump too? Sure, but I use slower police vehicles for it fairly often and I've only ever fudged it once (and that time everyone but me got out fine, I stumbled down some rocks, but still got to the boat in time).

 

R* already know about this tactic for sure. How much we talk about it, is irrelevant.

 

Depending on how you launch, the car can twist, possibly leading to a teammate eating the mountain.

 

 

After the highlighted text I kinda answered my own question there. I just included that question to address the counter point. Yeah it can happen, but I've done it a lot in lesser vehicles and the only time I've f*cked it up, I survived and got to the boat in time. I lost all my body armour and more than half my health though, as a lvl 275. I wouldn't expect a low level and or someone with lesser health/armour to survive the fall.

 

 

If you guys keep talking about it and drawing attention to it, yes they will.

THIS!

The tactic is ok I guess but why does everyone just drive straight to the boat instead of doing the jump to lose the wanted level?

 

Money carrier always gets shot quite a bit and loses more money than they would doing it normally. Is there an element of risk doing the jump too? Sure, but I use slower police vehicles for it fairly often and I've only ever fudged it once (and that time everyone but me got out fine, I stumbled down some rocks, but still got to the boat in time).

 

R* already know about this tactic for sure. How much we talk about it, is irrelevant.

If they stay ducked in the car they're fine unless the driver crashes, you can lose money.

 

 

I meant when you drive straight to the boat without losing the cops, you get out of the car and get in the boat still with a wanted level. The money carrier(s) gets shot up by the incoming swat teams, choppers, police boats, sheriffs you name it.

Edited July 14, 2015 by JaysonVoorhees

[Miss Malevolent]

I meant when you drive straight to the boat without losing the cops, you get out of the car and get in the boat still with a wanted level. The money carrier(s) gets shot up by the incoming swat teams, choppers, police boats, sheriffs you name it.

Yeah I do notice that when you use any other method than the bikes, you don't lose the wanted level at the end...and there are usually the two boats that will seemingly ALWAYS shoot a few thousand off your bag.

 

Infuriates me to no end.

 

The only time I've ever gotten to the end without losing any money, was using the bike method, but one of my teammates died so, there's that.

Edited July 14, 2015 by Miss Malevolent

[TheKingChivas]

 

I meant when you drive straight to the boat without losing the cops, you get out of the car and get in the boat still with a wanted level. The money carrier(s) gets shot up by the incoming swat teams, choppers, police boats, sheriffs you name it.

Yeah I do notice that when you use any other method than the bikes, you don't lose the wanted level at the end...and there are usually the two boats that will seemingly ALWAYS shoot a few thousand off your bag.

 

Infuriates me to no end.

 

The only time I've ever gotten to the end without losing any money, was using the bike method, but one of my teammates died so, there's that.

 

 

And it wasn't me

 

To the other point, you just have to follow Lester's route and chance the jump in the Kuruma...that will lose the wanted still.

Edited July 14, 2015 by TheKingChivas

[Miss Malevolent]

And it wasn't me

 

To the other point, you just have to follow Lester's route and chance the jump in the Kuruma...that will lose the wanted still.

True, but then you'll get someone who can't or doesn't know how to jump out of the vehicle in time. Plus, whomever has the Kuruma will eat the cost of it possibly going in the water and being destroyed.

 

But yes it is true.

[Smooth Longsack]

I hope not. Used or this morning and almost got away with everything.

[TheKingChivas]

 

And it wasn't me

 

To the other point, you just have to follow Lester's route and chance the jump in the Kuruma...that will lose the wanted still.

True, but then you'll get someone who can't or doesn't know how to jump out of the vehicle in time. Plus, whomever has the Kuruma will eat the cost of it possibly going in the water and being destroyed.

 

But yes it is true.

 

 

Well, I guess we'll find out then

[Mattoropael]

 

And it wasn't me

 

To the other point, you just have to follow Lester's route and chance the jump in the Kuruma...that will lose the wanted still.

True, but then you'll get someone who can't or doesn't know how to jump out of the vehicle in time. Plus, whomever has the Kuruma will eat the cost of it possibly going in the water and being destroyed.

 

But yes it is true.

 

 

PVs destroyed during heists (inc. setups) do not incur any insurance cost. You can fly a T20 off the cliff, have it explode and get it back for free.

[Miss Malevolent]

PVs destroyed during heists (inc. setups) do not incur any insurance cost. You can fly a T20 off the cliff, have it explode and get it back for free.

Good to know.

[Voit Turyv]

KURUMA

not KARUMA

[Red Lynx 23]

^ I'm waiting for someone to spell T20 wrong.

[Nah nah nah Gta 6]

^ I'm waiting for someone to spell T20 wrong.

P10