Lethal Vaccine Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Do you guys like that when you run into another vehicle on the road, you stop dead in your tracks as if you hit a brick wall? As if your car was made of paper and the other was made of steel? Or how 'bout when you launch into the air for a brief moment you seem to stay in the air longer than normal like you were on the moon with low gravity? Â Discuss... Â Personally, I liked being able to knock other vehicles out of the way in past GTA's. How come in V this isn't possible unless you are driving a Phantom, Fire Truck, Bus, etc, etc (massive, large vehicles)? I also find it strange how you can add 100% armor upgrade, which, imo, would add even MORE weight to your car. Yet, when you run into a tiny vehicle on the road that an NPC is driving that is NOT modded whatsoever, the NPC can actually drive into your vehicle and move it out of the way. But you can't move THEM out of the way? Doesn't make sense. Â I also dislike the hang time you get in the air. Once you are airborne, it takes an abnormal amount of time to hit ground again. Why did they do this? Just for the Stunt Community in GTAO or something? Â Driving just feels so wrong in this game... Edited July 11, 2015 by Militia OG Viking, DIEXEL and thehambone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progeekzy Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 My fav car is very quickly becoming the duke o death. Knock other cars out of my way without a huge MPH drop. http://gtaforums.com/topic/806580-are-there-any-cars-not-made-from-paper/ theGTAking101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) I've seen the Duke o' Death in action on Youtube and that surely does knock Vehicles out of the way, but it's the only one, basically. But that is only on Next Gen and also one of a kind. I am talking about normal old Vehicles you mod inside Los Santos Customs and drive them around. Every Vehicle you hit, it's like a brick wall and sooner or later instead of knocking the Vehicle out of the way, you will just go through the windshield and die. I don't even know if flying out of the windshield is possible with that Duke o' Death. Â Ah, I didn't see that other Topic. Thanks. But still, I asked a couple questions here. I am not sure why Vehicles hang so long in the air like they are on the moon. Edited July 11, 2015 by Militia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progeekzy Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 It would be nice if someone made a mod that re balanced the cars. Â Trucks/suvs/muscle cars should be heavy cars that can bump other cars and not be treated like a freaking hockey puck. Â Â There is a mod that makes anything you drive heacy, something like 60 tons or something. over balance much. OG Viking and DIEXEL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Do you guys like that when you run into another vehicle on the road, you stop dead in your tracks as if you hit a brick wall? As if your car was made of paper and the other was made of steel? Or how 'bout when you launch into the air for a brief moment you seem to stay in the air longer than normal like you were on the moon with low gravity? Â Discuss... Â Personally, I liked being able to knock other vehicles out of the way in past GTA's. How come in V this isn't possible unless you are driving a Phantom, Fire Truck, Bus, etc, etc (massive, large vehicles)? I also find it strange how you can add 100% armor upgrade, which, imo, would add even MORE weight to your car. Yet, when you run into a tiny vehicle on the road that an NPC is driving that is NOT modded whatsoever, the NPC can actually drive into your vehicle and move it out of the way. But you can't move THEM out of the way? Doesn't make sense. Â I also dislike the hang time you get in the air. Once you are airborne, it takes an abnormal amount of time to hit ground again. Why did they do this? Just for the Stunt Community in GTAO or something? Â Driving just feels so wrong in this game... It's revenge of the NPC's from earlier GTA games... I've not tried V yet, but what you describe sounds unfair though. Â In San Andreas I think NPC cars are too light, when I crash with them they get knocked out of my way too easily. And heavy vehicles are not heavy enough, regardless who drives them. Cars have realistic weight, but trucks are only twice as heavy as cars when they should be about 8-10 times heavier. Realistically, a truck or a bus should knock small cars like they were made of cardboards. Â When two equal vehicles collide, and they both have similar speed, both vehicles should stop. Lethal Vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Yeah, in V it's a joke. You get airborne over the slightest decline/incline in the road, and when you hit a NPC, they magically turn into a brick wall from a feather. The Physics in this game are a joke. Â How can one minute you and NPC's go airborne and stay in the air as if you're on the damn moon, and then the next minute you run into them going full speed and you stop dead in you tracks, fly out of the windshield, and the NPC car doesn't even budge? Pathetic, if you ask me. Edited August 15, 2015 by Militia Gnocchi Flip Flops and theGTAking101 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 People whine about how realistic IV was and now they're bitching about how unrealistic V is. Rockstar can't win. Well there's a place for people like you if you wanna bitch and it's the Bitch & Moan topic. Bitch away. Â Just joshin' ya. I know how you feel and I agree. However I think Rockstar got a bit confused. Your car is light when it crashes into another, it's heavy to where it has no suspension and handles like a brick, but then it can get spun out by a slow patrol car that somehow magically catches up to you in your exotic sports car or supped up 3 ton SUV. Â DANIEL3GS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilÑ–th Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Cop cars only need to ram you in the rear to make you spin out, as the ram will instantly snap your wheels to the side. Same thing if they pop a tire. ^ DIEXEL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoxX Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Cop cars only need to ram you in the rear to make you spin out, as the ram will instantly snap your wheels to the side. Same thing if they pop a tire. ^ Both you can do aswell. Â Its how the mechanic was designed, not limited to Cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Cop cars only need to ram you in the rear to make you spin out, as the ram will instantly snap your wheels to the side. Same thing if they pop a tire. ^ So some piece of sh*t two ton cop car can spin out a 6 ton fully armored SUV by ramming into you? Here's how the cops work, because I don't think you know. You're driving and they're a couple car lengths behind you. You keep looking forward and go on about your business. Then all of a sudden, no matter how fast you're driving, they somehow drop a gear and have so much damn torque that they can surge forward almost twice as fast as you're going and then ram you with the force of an SUV. Yeah, I don't know if you're trying to say that what I was describing earlier was realistic, but clearly it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilÑ–th Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wasn't saying that it's realistic, just adding in another unrealistic flaw since it ties into cop AI rubberbanding. Gnocchi Flip Flops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wasn't saying that it's realistic, just adding in another unrealistic flaw since it ties into cop AI rubberbanding. K, I thought you were referring to real cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1N0D3UTSCHT3K Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 it's a bit better if you hit cars from the side (start of video) or are in a big industrial vehicle (end of video)    but yeah it's not great and not as fun as GTA IV  the heavy weight of the tank is fun at least haha    crushed OG Viking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant remember Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah GTA V has more features but is technically on par (and in the case of vehicles) less advanced than GTA4 was. But what can we do about it... Except for mods, waiting for GTA6 and hope they make the cars more fun to drive this time. GTA5 is actually the first GTA that I disliked and didn't even bother playing/buying, crappy driving (it's a driving game after all) and unmemorable characters, except for Trevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) I can run into Cop SUV's and Patrol Cars with the Insurgent, at times, exploding them on impact and/or sending them flying. But when they hit me from behind on occasion, I still go flying. So if I can explode them on impact, how on earth can they move the second heaviest vehicle in the game like as if it's light as a feather? Fire Truck sucks ass, too. I tried that and it's LESS heavy than the Insurgent. Hell, even the Armored Kuruma is nearly as heavy as the Insurgent and can push anything out of the way. The only 3 Vehicles who have a chance (2 of which aren't even "supposed" to be in Single Player) are the Insurgent(s), Armored Kuruma, and Rhino Tank. The Rhino Tank's damage system is pretty bad, though, but I just make it BP/DP/EP/FP with the Editor and then it actually becomes a Rhino Tank and I can drive around the map running over 500 Vehicles if I like, since I won't catch fire and blow up after 3 Vehicles ran over, how the normal Tank behaves. I can use the Tank Cannon and get a pile up on the high way and blow everything up and see all the chain reaction explosions. It's actually fun. It's NOT fun using a Tank to roll over a few Cars and then BOOM, dead. Edited August 15, 2015 by Militia Gnocchi Flip Flops, jazzbone and OG Viking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta-gt88 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) The best solution to this problem Slidey Cars PS3 TRIANGLE, R1, R1, LEFT, R1, L1, R2, L1 Â Here's a thread all about it http://gtaforums.com/topic/769352-the-slidey-cars-guide-how-to-drive-in-v/ Edited August 15, 2015 by beretta-gt88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 What I don't get is why the Insurgent, ATV, dune buggy and others act like a giant gyroscope. If I do a backflip in an Insurgent I suddenly stop halfway and barrel roll the rest as if it has cat instincts to disable it from fully flipping. Why the hell can't I backflip or even wheelie an ATV?? Strange pseudophysics at work here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranceking26 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I always found this stupid too. Being able to push cars out of the way was fun in IV. Â I noticed everybody's favourite car the Armoured Kuruma has a bit more force when crashing into cars but it's still not as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 it's a bit better if you hit cars from the side (start of video) or are in a big industrial vehicle (end of video)   but yeah it's not great and not as fun as GTA IV The physics looks pretty realistic in the video, except that the white car (and the driver?) takes too little damage from collisions. The truck behaves as I would expect, except when it spins out after a crash at 5:59. Is this "patch" a mod or a proper patch made by Rockstar?    the heavy weight of the tank is fun at least haha   crushed A tank almost tilting by driving over a car? Bad. And the car roof should have been crushed much more.    The Rhino Tank's damage system is pretty bad, though, but I just make it BP/DP/EP/FP with the EditorMilitia, who are cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) As I said in the Special Vehicle Topic for V, that V is basically non-existent for Special Vehicles, thus I get bored with it. I have my legit main Save on Version 1.00 for PS3, then I have a Save Edited Save on Version 1.25 on PS3. You can't even spawn certain Vehicles on 1.00 cuz they didn't "exist" yet in the Game's Code, like the Insurgent and Armored Kuruma. I never really saw you in the V Section until recently, but I can assure you, I've been saying more or less what I've been continuing to say since December 2013, lol...The only way I have fun in V is through the Editor, more or less. Without the Editor, I don't play V When it comes to other GTA's, I don't even have to think of Mods/CLEO/Cheats/Save Editors because there is something in those GTA's for me. V is the only Game in which I can't seem to play unless I use the Editor  You think the Car's Roof is bad? It's worse on Next Gen. Due to the First Person View, the Roof's can't cave in at all. It's pretty bad damage system in general...  Also, you can be going 30 MPH and fly out of the windshield, yet at times, you can be flying at 150 MPH and NOT fly out of the windshield. It's very hit-or-miss and not all that reliable...  Furthermore with the Insurgent(s) and Armored Kuruma (probably the Duke o' Death as well) you can NOT fly out of the windshield, but on EVERY other Vehicle in V, you can. These Vehicles also don't deform, which I like, they are the true Tanks of GTA V, lol... Edited August 19, 2015 by Militia OG Viking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) You think the Car's Roof is bad? It's worse on Next Gen. Due to the First Person View, the Roof's can't cave in at all.With "next gen", do you mean PS4? I thought only the graphics were different.   Also, you can be going 30 MPH and fly out of the windshield, yet at times, you can be flying at 150 MPH and NOT fly out of the windshield. It's very hit-or-miss and not all that reliable...It's hit-or-miss in real life too, so it's a good thing if you want some realism.I want some randomness in games. Edited August 19, 2015 by OG Viking Lethal Vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Nah, there is added Side Missions, Collectables, First Person View, updated Graphics, moving Trees, etc, etc, etc...A bunch of stuff I am not interested in But yes, PS4/One/PC is Next Gen. I am on PS3, which is Last Gen, as well as X360. Â I guess those NPC Vehicles are made out of steel. You can run into a Tree in V and be fine, but running into an NPC head on at a traffic light, you're dead even barely having any momentum... Meanwhile, trees don't move, in real life. Cars do. The expression of "wrapping yourself around a tree" as merit to it. In real life, if going fast enough, you're vehicle is chopped in half. The metal of it wraps around the tree, cuz...trees don't move. Nothing will move a tree trunk. If that tree has been there for 150+ years or something and is wide as f*ck, nothing is moving it...The roots are way too deep for it to happen. But yeah, V is nowhere like real life. There isn't moon gravity...Unless you are on the moon...You can't turn your Vehicle over when it flips upside down, but you can in V. You can't spin a Vehicle in the air in any direction you like...Cuz gravity will always pull it down, etc, etc. It's not real, at all. Edited August 19, 2015 by Militia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Actually, PS4 and XBox One stopped being next generation at the moment they were released. Â I always assume that game videos are recorded on PC, but the above videos are recorded on a console? Â The white car he drove in the first video didn't act like a feather when he crashed, but maybe that is because a patch is involved. Is this patch a mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) I know what you mean about technology. It always goes obsolete the moment they are released  Yeah, fnxrak also did his V playthrough on Youtube on PS3...It doesn't look bad at all. There IS a way to record, but I never was interested in learning it, etc...  I am talking about feather weight when you are airborne. On the ground, you're steel. In the air, you're a feather, like on the moon due to gravity...That is why the physics don't make sense. They contradict themselves...Lol  With every Patch, things get altered slightly. It's not a Mod... Edited August 19, 2015 by Militia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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