How much money do shark cards make per day?

[Miss Malevolent]

The game isn't pay to win ? Really so I assume then that the Homing Launcher is free, As so is the Hydra and Valkrie and Armoured Kuruma, No its not pay to win at all now is it, It's pretty obvious that it actually is, You wanna stand a chance in a freeroam session then you have to pay for it, The new insurance premiums alone prove this.

Win in freeroam?

 

I thought pay to win had to do with gameplay enhancements not just stuff.

 

For example, Kitchen Scramble has gold pots, pans, ovens etc. that you have to buy with their currency to have your food cook faster. Some levels are impossible to pass without this feature.

 

There is nothing to win in freeroam as it is an open environment. If you choose to engage in battle...there is nothing that you win outside of weapon tints and bragging rights. But it really isn't hindering you in anyway unlike the above example I posted.

[Chloroform]

 

 

Once again to all the whiners that Rockstar make money.

 

This game is free to play. Everything in it is free and you never have to part with a penny.

 

I WANT Rockstart to make money. This is how I get an excellent, free, online GTA experience for as long as I want to play it.

 

And to all of the people about to say that the game isn't excellent. You are still here and still playing, every single day. Can't be all that bad if after two years you are still heavily involved in the game.

So tell me, how does one get gtao for "free". Yeah thought so.

 

Yeah, if you actually f*cking read my post you'll see what I said was that we all PLAY GTAO FOR FREE.

 

Yes, if you want the game you have to buy the GTA V disc, but hey, guess what? You get a massive game with it, tons of free updates and listen up, I want you to pay attention here, A TOTALLY FREE ONLINE GAME THAT YOU DON'T EVER HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING TO PLAY OR UPDATE.

 

Idiot.

Online isn't free if you have to buy gta5. Anyways enough about yourself.

[BlueSocks]

Online isn't free if you have to buy gta5. Anyways enough about yourself.

 

 

You have to buy something to access it but Rockstar has still been trying to separate it as a different entity and not just simply 5 online. People just keep viewing it as 5 online. The thing is though, look how many people bought this just for sp or before online was even functional, online should be seen as a separate entity especially once you consider Rockstar has been having it treated that way, even though that's not happening right now. It's not all exactly like some people are thinking. I think it'd be great if they would offer them separately at discounted prices or something to that effect, but that doesn't seem that feasible tbh. Maybe they are trying to set it up so they can release online as an mmo style game that stands on its own rather than being attached to another game. And I kinda like that idea actually, that way people can't whine how it's not like sp or some sh*t like this.

[SgtSyrup]

Once again to all the whiners that Rockstar make money.

 

This game is free to play. Everything in it is free and you never have to part with a penny.

 

I WANT Rockstart to make money. This is how I get an excellent, free, online GTA experience for as long as I want to play it.

 

And to all of the people about to say that the game isn't excellent. You are still here and still playing, every single day. Can't be all that bad if after two years you are still heavily involved in the game.

Nothing in life is ever free. You paid for the game, console or PC, and your ISP.

 

If Rockstar is making so much money from sharkcards, then why do last gen and PC users have modder problems? I know their DLC doesnt cost eight million to make.

[Chloroform]

 

Online isn't free if you have to buy gta5. Anyways enough about yourself.

 

You have to buy something to access it but Rockstar has still been trying to separate it as a different entity and not just simply 5 online. People just keep viewing it as 5 online. The thing is though, look how many people bought this just for sp or before online was even functional, online should be seen as a separate entity especially once you consider Rockstar has been having it treated that way, even though that's not happening right now. It's not all exactly like some people are thinking. I think it'd be great if they would offer them separately at discounted prices or something to that effect, but that doesn't seem that feasible tbh. Maybe they are trying to set it up so they can release online as an mmo style game that stands on its own rather than being attached to another game. And I kinda like that idea actually, that way people can't whine how it's not like sp or some sh*t like this.

I understand where you're coming from but if its not separate, its one of the same. Its almost like saying "I bought a cheese burger and get lettuce for free". No you bought the burger and it came with lettuce.

 

Now do I believe rockstar is going to turn gtao into its "own" thing? I don't know, I questioned that myself. The only problem is, most people buy GTA games to play online. So I could see that being problematic because (while there will be a lot) I don't see "gta6" out selling gtao if they were truly separate.

 

Only time will tell what rockstar will do but as it is right now, gtao isn't a free game since they only way to play it is to buy a copy of the game (unless you got a copy for free of course)

[BlueSocks]

 

 

Online isn't free if you have to buy gta5. Anyways enough about yourself.

 

You have to buy something to access it but Rockstar has still been trying to separate it as a different entity and not just simply 5 online. People just keep viewing it as 5 online. The thing is though, look how many people bought this just for sp or before online was even functional, online should be seen as a separate entity especially once you consider Rockstar has been having it treated that way, even though that's not happening right now. It's not all exactly like some people are thinking. I think it'd be great if they would offer them separately at discounted prices or something to that effect, but that doesn't seem that feasible tbh. Maybe they are trying to set it up so they can release online as an mmo style game that stands on its own rather than being attached to another game. And I kinda like that idea actually, that way people can't whine how it's not like sp or some sh*t like this.

I understand where you're coming from but if its not separate, its one of the same. Its almost like saying "I bought a cheese burger and get lettuce for free". No you bought the burger and it came with lettuce.

 

Now do I believe rockstar is going to turn gtao into its "own" thing? I don't know, I questioned that myself. The only problem is, most people buy GTA games to play online. So I could see that being problematic because (while there will be a lot) I don't see "gta6" out selling gtao if they were truly separate.

 

Only time will tell what rockstar will do but as it is right now, gtao isn't a free game since they only way to play it is to buy a copy of the game (unless you got a copy for free of course)

 

 

Where's the numbers for most people getting the game to play online? Only the last game was online. How can you even pull that number out of your ass to say most get it for it? The online being what I always wanted in a gta is what sold me on getting this one, but that still doesn't make it a completely linked entity, it's separate, it should be viewed as a separate thing even though it's currently intertwined with 5 right now.

 

The fact people are trying to view it as 5 mp and even liken it to the mp from 4 is a problem. And that is a problem with people's views, not Rockstar. They've treated it as a separate being this entire time, it's the players who can't see that or even attempt to accept it. I think online is generally fine. It could be better, it should be better, but generally it's fine. I'm not like oh everything is perfect like others seem to think because I don't sit and bitch and moan all the time, but I think it's generally alright. Nowhere near as bad as people make it seem.

Edited July 11, 2015 by BlueSocks

[TheKingChivas]

If Rockstar is making so much money from sharkcards, then why do last gen and PC users have modder problems? I know their DLC doesnt cost eight million to make.

 

 

Simple...the consoles are jailbroken and Rockstar can't fix that, and since the PC users can tear through the game's files, there's not a hell of a lot they can do there either (nor can almost any PC game).

 

And you don't know what DLC costs or not (nor do I, for that matter). Stick to facts, sir.

[Chloroform]

I don't know if you're being serious right now BlueSocks. Anyways till something is separate, its the same. No one can sit there and say there is a difference between gta4's and gta5's online. Both require a disc to play, nothing free about that.

Edited July 11, 2015 by Chloroform

[BlueSocks]

Not saying there's anything free but when you are treating them as separate entities you can't just say it's gta5 mp and that's it. It is not simply 5 mp, it's not like 4 mp, it's entirely separate from 4 so the comparisons and complaints on that front are bullsh*t. The fact it is being treated differently shows that it's not simply 5 mp and shouldn't be viewed as that. It doesn't matter if it's physically separate, the treatment of it shows that they want to distinguish it and people should be trying to see it that way rather than hurr durr gta5 mp.

[Arrows to Athens]

 

Online isn't free if you have to buy gta5. Anyways enough about yourself.

 

 

You have to buy something to access it but Rockstar has still been trying to separate it as a different entity and not just simply 5 online. People just keep viewing it as 5 online. The thing is though, look how many people bought this just for sp or before online was even functional, online should be seen as a separate entity especially once you consider Rockstar has been having it treated that way, even though that's not happening right now. It's not all exactly like some people are thinking. I think it'd be great if they would offer them separately at discounted prices or something to that effect, but that doesn't seem that feasible tbh. Maybe they are trying to set it up so they can release online as an mmo style game that stands on its own rather than being attached to another game. And I kinda like that idea actually, that way people can't whine how it's not like sp or some sh*t like this.

 

I don't know why they are trying to treat online as a different aspect of GTA 5. It's the exactly the same game with the same game engine, physics, universe and has even the story mode characters. The only difference is that you get to play with other people over a network. Rockstar never talked about GTA IV online being a different game to GTA IV.

[Chloroform]

I'm not following how they are being treated "differently". Rockstar supports the game, how can it be any different. I mean the way you're classing this, every online game is pretty much the same, a free bonus but its not you still have to buy the disc. DC universe online, now that is a free game and its free to play. Games like that deserve micros, not billion dollar games. Also I've had less issues with DCUO, can't remember any lag, no modders, and the "world" is much bigger with more players. While using the same p2p system gtao would use.

[BlueSocks]

That's because gta4 mp was literally just mp with 4. This is far different from that. It's designed differently from the ground up and is not the same thing. Part of the reason for viewing it as necessary to differentiate between them is because despite it not even just simply being "gta5 mp" is people still try to compare it to gta4 mp and it's not meant to be like that. They want it to stand on its own and not be seen a tacked on mp.

[Arrows to Athens]

That's because gta4 mp was literally just mp with 4. This is far different from that. It's designed differently from the ground up and is not the same thing. Part of the reason for viewing it as necessary to differentiate between them is because despite it not even just simply being "gta5 mp" is people still try to compare it to gta4 mp and it's not meant to be like that. They want it to stand on its own and not be seen a tacked on mp.

I disagree. I just don't see how you think GTA 5 online is any different from IV online other than the fact that its set in a different universe and has more features. It is simply the multiplayer counterpart of the game. That's it. I mean is there anything game changing about the multiplayer version?

Edited July 11, 2015 by Fearx--

[RogerWho]

15 million us$ for shark cards in one (particular) month? IIRC about 30 million people have tried GTAO, and if we guess that 15 mil were still playing 4 months later, and an average shark card purchase is $20, that would mean that about 1 in 20 people buy a shark card every month (as the number of players is probably declining in a similar fashion as the card revenue).

 

That's more that I would guess but I suppose it's not unrealistic. Most likely it's just that more people are playing than I'd expect and people buy more expensive cards, in which case it would make sense.

 

In any case those numbers paint quite a picture. You can make a whole AAA videogame for 15 mil, if not several. Definitely more than a couple of art assets-only DLCs and some bug fixes. No wonder that this 'micro-' transaction model is so popular: devs can just swim in money without barely giving anything back.

[BlueSocks]

 

That's because gta4 mp was literally just mp with 4. This is far different from that. It's designed differently from the ground up and is not the same thing. Part of the reason for viewing it as necessary to differentiate between them is because despite it not even just simply being "gta5 mp" is people still try to compare it to gta4 mp and it's not meant to be like that. They want it to stand on its own and not be seen a tacked on mp.

I disagree. I just don't see how you think GTA 5 online is any different from IV online other than the fact that its set in a different universe and has more features. It is simply the multiplayer counterpart of the game. That's it. I mean is there anything game changing about the multiplayer version?

 

The fact it's a totally different experience than 4 kind of speaks for itself. Look at all the people who bitch that you don't get everything to have a big ol circle jerk and actual progression in this one. It's much different than what you got in 4 and if you can't see that then I'd be worried. It's obviously a different experience and creation. All you're looking at is how it's set in the same world as the main game and general as f*ck sh*t like that. It's far more nuanced and different than you make it sound.

 

"It's the same but it has more stuff" like really?

[bloatedsack]

 

So, I guess after enduring two years of this it's safe to assume that most of you would rather have paid $2.99 in real life money for your T20?

 

No?

 

I can only imagine the whining around here if you had no option for ingame cash and every item included in a DLC/update/whatever pack cost you real money.. Especially since, generally speaking, each successive generation of item was better than the one before. Instead of whining about shark cards, you'd be bitching about pay to win, right?

 

...?

 

So, question:

Since "everything for free" was not, will not, can not, and never will be an option just how exactly do you want it to work? What method do you folks like Chloroform, Halal, and the rest of the people who have to whine about the same thing, at every chance, want it to work?

You should learn to read mate.

 

I see you've learned how to avoid a question.

[Chloroform]

So because rockstar changed the experience that means its different?

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

That's because gta4 mp was literally just mp with 4. This is far different from that. It's designed differently from the ground up and is not the same thing. Part of the reason for viewing it as necessary to differentiate between them is because despite it not even just simply being "gta5 mp" is people still try to compare it to gta4 mp and it's not meant to be like that. They want it to stand on its own and not be seen a tacked on mp.

I disagree. I just don't see how you think GTA 5 online is any different from IV online other than the fact that its set in a different universe and has more features. It is simply the multiplayer counterpart of the game. That's it. I mean is there anything game changing about the multiplayer version?

 

 

 

"It's the same but it has more stuff" like really?

 

Am I not right?

[TheTigOlBitties]

Gamers can only blame themselves for the horrible micro-transaction trend. Stop falling for this nonsense. In case you don't already understand, that means STOP PAYING FOR THINGS YOU SHOULDN'T.

 

In anticipation of the incredibly immature response of not telling others what to do with their money, you're screwing it up for the rest of us who actually know when to spend and when to keep the wallet closed.

[Arrows to Athens]

Gamers can only blame themselves for the horrible micro-transaction trend. Stop falling for this nonsense. In case you don't already understand, that means STOP PAYING FOR THINGS YOU SHOULDN'T.

 

In anticipation of the incredibly immature response of not telling others what to do with their money, you're screwing it up for the rest of us who actually know when to spend and when to keep the wallet closed.

 

This is where cash cards become a problem.

[HelloMyNameIs...]

I personally don't believe that microtransactions belong in any game that you pay for. And how is GTA Online free to play? Last time I checked I paid $60 to play it...... I don't see it anywhere for free LOL.

 

But on topic I'm pretty sure they make a decent amount of money wouldn't surprise me.

[Bxx]

About tree fiddy.

 

billions.

 

[Halal Cyborg]

 

 

So, I guess after enduring two years of this it's safe to assume that most of you would rather have paid $2.99 in real life money for your T20?

 

No?

 

I can only imagine the whining around here if you had no option for ingame cash and every item included in a DLC/update/whatever pack cost you real money.. Especially since, generally speaking, each successive generation of item was better than the one before. Instead of whining about shark cards, you'd be bitching about pay to win, right?

 

...?

 

So, question:

Since "everything for free" was not, will not, can not, and never will be an option just how exactly do you want it to work? What method do you folks like Chloroform, Halal, and the rest of the people who have to whine about the same thing, at every chance, want it to work?

You should learn to read mate.

I see you've learned how to avoid a question.

Reread my posts then come back to me.

[rlr149]

And how is GTA Online free to play? Last time I checked I paid $60 to play it...... I don't see it anywhere for free LOL.

 

'buy one get one free', '3 for 2'.

just because i paid for one item doesn't mean i paid for the thing that also came with it.

[Chloroform]

 

And how is GTA Online free to play? Last time I checked I paid $60 to play it...... I don't see it anywhere for free LOL.

 

'buy one get one free', '3 for 2'.

just because i paid for one item doesn't mean i paid for the thing that also came with it.

I must have missed that part of the advertising in the commercials. Besides your analogy is weak at best. When you buy one get one free the items you're acquiring for free are also sold before that sale Edited July 11, 2015 by Chloroform

[MrMadMike]

I dont have a problem with shark cards

I have a problem with half assed dlc, crap servers and the change to the mission payout system

[rlr149]

 

 

And how is GTA Online free to play? Last time I checked I paid $60 to play it...... I don't see it anywhere for free LOL.

 

'buy one get one free', '3 for 2'.

just because i paid for one item doesn't mean i paid for the thing that also came with it.

I must have missed that part of the advertising in the commercials. Besides your analogy is weak at best. When you buy one get one free the items you're acquiring for free are also sold before that sale

 

nonsense, a 'new' item has to start being sold sometime, if that coincides with either of those then it doesn't have to be on sale beforehand. first time i saw the rather delicious mcvitees chocolate caramel digestive biscuits....... they were 'new'(special stand in the supermarket etc). and on a 3 for 2 deal. i could have bought just 2 packs for the same price as i spent coming home with 3 = a free item.

just because it's generally that other way doesn't mean it's an imperative.

 

some car dealers in the UK offer free road tax.............. they won't tax my current car, only if i buy a car from them. it's conditional 'free' too incentivise you, but still free.

[Chloroform]

But you're buying the same item while getting the same item free. (talking about your biscuits) This is so off topic now and is getting more and more pointless. Point is you can't play gtao without a gta5 disc. If anyone thinks that's free, that's their problem.

 

This can also be turned around you know? You guys bought gtao and got a very very expensive free gta5 game for free This sh*t is just too funny with some of you.

Edited July 11, 2015 by Chloroform

[Halal Cyborg]

I think there has to be some rockstar employees in this thread;p

[Chloroform]

I think there has to be some rockstar employees in this thread;p

"Oh f*ck Johnson, they're on to us"