Persuading Parents

[XenoxX]

 

I used to have GTA IV and GTA V, but my parents took it away and sold them after they looked at the reviews and researched a lot about it. Still no luck after trying over and over to ask if i can buy them again. Any advice to try and get it back? Thanks!

Children shouldn't be playing with adult games.Your parents did right by taking it away from you, and sold it. I'm actually glad that they are some good quality parents out there that actually cares for the well being of their children.

 

Congratulations to your parents for doing the right thing.

 

Dont know about the US but in Germany Grand Theft Auto V is under a voluntary self controll

meaning, theoraticly that GTA V is not an "adult game"

If children WANT to play something which is not rated for their age they CAN.

 

IV and PS2 games are a LOT different. Old games have a certain charm to them that I would suggest you to enjoy at this young age.

Don't miss! I followed a natural progression too; something that many young and new players today, don't bother to look at after they become addicted to the current trends of gaming in an ecosystem of AAA garbage and graphics whoring.

IV is going nowhere. You can still catch up with the new games easily if you are naturally inclined and growing up with a passion for good gaming experiences, regardless of the graphics/trends.

I am just picturing myself so speaking from experience.

V is an absolute sh*t game. You are not missing here anything.

So listen to your parents, and enjoy the old games as much as you can at this young age and free time.

Nah Vice City and SA were absolute sh*t in my opinion, stick with V

Edited July 11, 2015 by XenoxX

[RandompedestrianfromLC]

Gta is not even that bad game. Buy your gta from online. Some online game stores dont even ask how old you are.

I played gta when I was kid and all my friends played too. So you are 15 now? 15 year old is not kid anymore. You are big boy now. You need to tell that to your mom. Where I live, most of kids move to own when they are 16.

Nothing that bad in gta. Most of +15 tv shows and movies are much more violent and much more bad than any gta.

I have played gta since I was 8. I remember when I was 11 or 12, my uncle one day came to my familys house and sawe that I have gta 3 in my ps2.

He said to my dad: ... your son haves that game? Then he said to my dad: lets go outside to talk about that, becouse its not good for kids.

I heard all that so I was like "ohh shhhiiiiitt.. now I need to hide that game before my parents take that from me". So I but my gta to hide when uncle and dad was outside talkin..

Next day I came from school and my dad said I need to show that game for him. I lied that I borrowed gta to my friend.

For real I was playin gta everyday secretly in my room next 3 years.

Later it was no problem becouse I was big boy and not kid anymore.

Edited July 15, 2015 by BoomBapPoet

[Plage]

 

Dont know about the US but in Germany Grand Theft Auto V is under a voluntary self controll

meaning, theoraticly that GTA V is not an "adult game"

If children WANT to play something which is not rated for their age they CAN.

 

Nope, please look up how the USK works.

[XenoxX]

 

 

Dont know about the US but in Germany Grand Theft Auto V is under a voluntary self controll

meaning, theoraticly that GTA V is not an "adult game"

If children WANT to play something which is not rated for their age they CAN.

 

Nope, please look up how the USK works.

 

I am actualy quiet sure that only the purchase of the game is forbidden for children, however the usage or playing of the game is entirely voluntary.

But I will look it up again, it certainly has nothing to do with law though.

[dyspoid]

That sucks, man. My parents were alright with it since I first convinced them GTA VC was not going to turn me into a murdering psycboparh. I am definitely not a murderer.

 

GTA V is the least adult of all of the games. My little brother has been playing it since he was very young.

 

In terms of getting your game back, it all depends on your parents. Some will take hostility and anger as a reason to stick with their decision, and some will cave into and buckle under guilt. Perhaps trying to talk to them would like an adult would be the most useful approach before simply saving up and buying it for yourself.

 

Damn, I remember that in my last year of high school a friend was grounded for viewing adult videos.

[Plage]

 

I am actualy quiet sure that only the purchase of the game is forbidden for children, however the usage or playing of the game is entirely voluntary.

But I will look it up again, it certainly has nothing to do with law though.

 

 

http://www.usk.de/die-usk/grundlagen/

[XenoxX]

 

 

I am actualy quiet sure that only the purchase of the game is forbidden for children, however the usage or playing of the game is entirely voluntary.

But I will look it up again, it certainly has nothing to do with law though.

 

 

http://www.usk.de/die-usk/grundlagen/

 

You should read that again:

 

Nein, der Staat regelt nicht, wie welche Medieninhalte Eltern zu Hause ihren Kindern zugänglich machen. Das ist und bleibt Recht und Verantwortung der Eltern.

 

Edited July 11, 2015 by XenoxX

[Plage]

§ 1 JuSchG - Begriffsbestimmung

 

1. sind Kinder Personen, die noch nicht 14 Jahre alt sind,

 

2. sind Jugendliche Personen, die 14, aber noch nicht 18 Jahre alt sind,

 

3. ist personensorgeberechtigte Person, wem allein oder gemeinsam mit einer anderen Person nach den Vorschriften des Bürgerlichen Gesetzbuchs die Personensorge zusteht,

 

4. ist erziehungsbeauftragte Person, jede Person über 18 Jahren, soweit sie auf Dauer oder zeitweise aufgrund einer Vereinbarung mit der personensorgeberechtigten Person Erziehungsaufgaben wahrnimmt oder soweit sie ein Kind oder eine jugendliche Person im Rahmen der Ausbildung oder der Jugendhilfe betreut.

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§ 12 JuSchG - Bildträger mit Filmen oder Spielen

 

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(3) Bildträger, die nicht oder mit „Keine Jugendfreigabe“ nach § 14 Abs. 2 von der obersten Landesbehörde oder einer Organisation der freiwilligen Selbstkontrolle im Rahmen des Verfahrens nach § 14 Abs. 6 oder nach § 14 Abs. 7 vom Anbieter gekennzeichnet sind, dürfen

 

1. einem Kind oder einer jugendlichen Person nicht angeboten, überlassen oder sonst zugänglich gemacht werden,

 

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This also counts for "at home". The problem is how do you want to enforce it?

[XenoxX]

 

§ 1 JuSchG - Begriffsbestimmung

 

1. sind Kinder Personen, die noch nicht 14 Jahre alt sind,

 

2. sind Jugendliche Personen, die 14, aber noch nicht 18 Jahre alt sind,

 

3. ist personensorgeberechtigte Person, wem allein oder gemeinsam mit einer anderen Person nach den Vorschriften des Bürgerlichen Gesetzbuchs die Personensorge zusteht,

 

4. ist erziehungsbeauftragte Person, jede Person über 18 Jahren, soweit sie auf Dauer oder zeitweise aufgrund einer Vereinbarung mit der personensorgeberechtigten Person Erziehungsaufgaben wahrnimmt oder soweit sie ein Kind oder eine jugendliche Person im Rahmen der Ausbildung oder der Jugendhilfe betreut.

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§ 12 JuSchG - Bildträger mit Filmen oder Spielen

 

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(3) Bildträger, die nicht oder mit „Keine Jugendfreigabe“ nach § 14 Abs. 2 von der obersten Landesbehörde oder einer Organisation der freiwilligen Selbstkontrolle im Rahmen des Verfahrens nach § 14 Abs. 6 oder nach § 14 Abs. 7 vom Anbieter gekennzeichnet sind, dürfen

 

1. einem Kind oder einer jugendlichen Person nicht angeboten, überlassen oder sonst zugänglich gemacht werden,

 

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This also counts for "at home". The problem is how do you want to enforce it?

 

nah read again only Games that ARE NOT RATED, however if a game is rated 18 it is allowed if the parents allow it

[Plage]

That are not rated or rated with "no youth clearance" which means USK 18.

[XenoxX]

That are not rated or rated with "no youth clearance" which means USK 18.

Well then the FAQ is contradicting...

[Plage]

Yeah, the whole thing is not really conclusive.

[AndyC-M]

video gaming is such an adult past time nowadays anyway, its wasted on kids :-p lol

[CarnageRacing00]

I used to have GTA IV and GTA V, but my parents took it away and sold them after they looked at the reviews and researched a lot about it. Still no luck after trying over and over to ask if i can buy them again. Any advice to try and get it back? Thanks!

 

Listen to your parents and respect their choices as parents. I completely understand that this isn't what you want to hear, but I PROMISE you, you will come to an age where you understand. I never understood either, until I got older and realized "Oh, well, they're completely in charge of me and just want to ensure that I turn out alright, I can't really fault them for that".

 

Seriously, show maturity by accepting their decision. That alone will probably convince them that you're mature enough to make your own decisions. Pouting or trying to circumvent them only confirms they made the right choice.

[thafablifee46]

Why play gta on consoles when u can play gta in real life for way less money and much better graphics? Think about it kiddo

[Andrespipe14]

Is just ridiculous, my parents tell me everyday that this game is too violent, but isn't further tan that. I answer saying that i love GTA 'cause I can do things in this game that I can't do in real life

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

 

I completely understand that this isn't what you want to hear, but I PROMISE you, you will come to an age where you understand. I never understood either, until I got older and realized "Oh, well, they're completely in charge of me and just want to ensure that I turn out alright, I can't really fault them for that".

I'm pretty sure OP realizes that, he's not stupid. However he's 15 years old. 15. They can separate reality from fantasy from a god damn video game, you wanna know how I know. I was 15. All I ever saw GTA as was a video game. If you don't think your child can separate reality from fantasy by the age of 15 then you're sheltering them. Period.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Scaglietti

[CarlitoDorito]

Educate them. Some parents will go by other reactionary parents who read a paper, the news, mothers groups and all that sh*t. Show them you know the difference between reality and virtual.

 

You've played IV and V already and haven't gone on a video game violence induced rampage, neither has anyone ever. It could be they just don't wanna expose their kid to the content featured in V, torture and stuff. If it's that then they'll have to stop you using the Internet or watching TV too

[CarnageRacing00]

 

 

I completely understand that this isn't what you want to hear, but I PROMISE you, you will come to an age where you understand. I never understood either, until I got older and realized "Oh, well, they're completely in charge of me and just want to ensure that I turn out alright, I can't really fault them for that".

I'm pretty sure OP realizes that, he's not stupid. However he's 15 years old. 15. They can separate reality from fantasy from a god damn video game, you wanna know how I know. I was 15. All I ever saw GTA as was a video game. If you don't think your child can separate reality from fantasy by the age of 15 then you're sheltering them. Period.

 

 

Not all kids have the same cognitive function as each other, friendo. Plus, they don't all mature the same way. I went to public schools, OK, I am well aware of how even a 15 year old can have the mindset of a f*cking child.

Edited July 14, 2015 by MichiganMuscle77

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

 

 

 

I completely understand that this isn't what you want to hear, but I PROMISE you, you will come to an age where you understand. I never understood either, until I got older and realized "Oh, well, they're completely in charge of me and just want to ensure that I turn out alright, I can't really fault them for that".

I'm pretty sure OP realizes that, he's not stupid. However he's 15 years old. 15. They can separate reality from fantasy from a god damn video game, you wanna know how I know. I was 15. All I ever saw GTA as was a video game. If you don't think your child can separate reality from fantasy by the age of 15 then you're sheltering them. Period.

 

 

Not all kids have the same cognitive function as each other, friendo. Plus, they don't all mature the same way. I went to public schools, OK, I am well aware of how even a 15 year old can have the mindset of a f*cking child.

 

Maybe times have changed but when I was 15 and in 7 different classes full of all kinds of 15 year olds, I can tell you that the majority of them viewed video games as just that; video games.

[FrikkenZz]

If you are 15 you shouldn't be playing GTA V no matter how "mature" you are. Get friends, ride bicycles and hang out at the beach (or whatever your closest alternatives are). When my kids reach 15 they wont be allowed to play games that are for 18+. However I do expect them to try to play without me knowing or strech the limits I set. But not with my consent.

 

My role as a parent is to give them a good foundation for their life and teach them the ways of life. If I let them do things that isnt age appropriate I fail and dont teach them much. That lead them to experience things themselves the HARD way instead of getting guidance from me. I will use common sense and do things based on the individual person, but some principles should be in place.

 

Kids will test limits. I expect that. Then it is better to set a limit for them to test instead of having no limit that will lead them to test everything. The worst argument against limits I have ever heard is "they will do it anyway so why not just let them".

 

And btw (commenting a remark on page 1) I moved out of my parents home when I was 15.

[Vik]

The fact that this thread is still going on is simply beyond me.

[paulmgrath]

gta's are aimed at "kids" as well as adults maybe even more so,

my parents letting me rent the original resident evil when i was like 12 is the thing that f*cked me up.

... or possibly the original tombraider the way she got impaled by the spikes was horrific back in the day lol

Edited July 15, 2015 by paulmgrath

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

...blah blah blah i'm a bloody knowitall hypocrite blah blah blah... ...as a parent it's my role to let everybody know...

 

And btw (commenting a remark on page 1) I moved out of my parents home when I was 15.

That ending comment completely devalues your whole comment, as if that were even possible. You moved out of your parent's home at the age of 15? Well aren't you a special snowflake? You're so edgy.

 

Let's switch back into reality. You have no idea who this kid is and how he lives his life. You automatically assume that if a youngster wants to play games from time to time that he doesn't go outside or have friends. That's rubbish, that's blatant rubbish. You cannot be serious? Judging from your dated and outlandish views, you must be very out of touch and I'm not taking the piss here, I'm serious.

Edited July 15, 2015 by Scaglietti

[FrikkenZz]

 

...blah blah blah i'm a bloody knowitall hypocrite blah blah blah... ...as a parent it's my role to let everybody know...

And btw (commenting a remark on page 1) I moved out of my parents home when I was 15.

 

That ending comment completely devalues your whole comment, as if that were even possible. You moved out of your parent's home at the age of 15? Well aren't you a special snowflake? You're so edgy.

 

Let's switch back into reality. You have no idea who this kid is and how he lives his life. You automatically assume that if a youngster wants to play games from time to time that he doesn't go outside or have friends. That's rubbish, that's blatant rubbish. You cannot be serious? Judging from your dated and outlandish views, you must be very out of touch and I'm not taking the piss here, I'm serious.

My ending has nothing to do with the rest of my statement, so it dosent devalues anything.

 

By your very unmature way of argumenting I'm guessing I struck a nerve.

 

-I dont need to know someone to know general parenting.

- I am not assuming he sits inside all the time, I am referring to general sound advice.

- If my views are outdated I suggest you go back to school, cause thats where I got my views from; education.

 

If you dont have anything real to say Im not spending anymore time on you.

[CarnageRacing00]

 

...blah blah blah i'm a bloody knowitall hypocrite blah blah blah... ...as a parent it's my role to let everybody know...

 

And btw (commenting a remark on page 1) I moved out of my parents home when I was 15.

That ending comment completely devalues your whole comment, as if that were even possible. You moved out of your parent's home at the age of 15? Well aren't you a special snowflake? You're so edgy.

 

Let's switch back into reality. You have no idea who this kid is and how he lives his life. You automatically assume that if a youngster wants to play games from time to time that he doesn't go outside or have friends. That's rubbish, that's blatant rubbish. You cannot be serious? Judging from your dated and outlandish views, you must be very out of touch and I'm not taking the piss here, I'm serious.

 

 

Likewise, you have no idea how this kid lives his life, either. None of us do.

 

He came onto an internet forum asking advice on how to persuade parents into letting him play GTA V. It's very possible his parents are being over protective; it's also very possible his parents see troubling traits in his personality.

 

Trying to convince this kid that his parents are wrong is NOT your place. Like I said, they may very well BE wrong but my god, don't encourage a child to ignore his parents. WTF are you thinking?

[Maibatsu545]

I have no sympathy for the underage sh*ts that want to play this game. It an 18+ plus game.

 

Go out and live your life before you realize you wasted your youth sitting in a dark room playing video games. GTA will still be there when you're old enough.

 

And for the love of God, stay OFF the mic on GTA Online.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

@Michigan: Okay, okay I see your point and I agree with you. It just riles me up how @above and @FrikkenZz are so assumptive and act as if playing any god damn game below 18 will ruin your childhood and turn you into an anti-social hermit. Personally I think he should just get over it and move on. I mean when my parents said no to GTA when I was younger I moved on. I mean yeah I sneaked to play it when they weren't home but that wasn't often. Eventually they let me play it because they knew how my sister and I were and that we knew it was just a game.

[Maibatsu545]

Everyone who gets upset about people not wanting underage kids to play are in fact, underage kids themselves. Don't worry, you'll understand when you're older, especially when you'll have brand new squeakers of your own shrieking into your headsets.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

Everyone who gets upset about people not wanting underage kids to play are in fact, underage kids themselves. Don't worry, you'll understand when you're older, especially when you'll have brand new squeakers of your own shrieking into your headsets.

Yeah! Yup! I'm definitely underaged.

Edited July 15, 2015 by Scaglietti