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J Cobra

Does anyone else think Tommy's an asshole?

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J Cobra

He's always blowing his friends off, he's rude, he's not optimistic at all...

 

I like Tommy but he seems like a dipsh*t at times.

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SonOfLiberty

I like that Tommy's an asshole. It kind of feels like when Ray Liotta voiced him he put a lot of Henry Hill from Goodfellas into Tommy's character more than anything.

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Edgrd

he's an asshole , yes. But i think he's optimistic enough , enough to take over the whole vice city.

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GreenOnions

In a way, sure, but I also think that this comes more from his desire to keep his operation running smoothly than it does from his wanting to have power over these people for its own sake. Take Lance, for instance: Tommy definitely has a soft spot for him personally, but makes the calculation early on that he is not "leadership material" if the Vercetti Gang is to stay powerful in Vice City. So Tommy makes it clear to Lance that there will be a place for him in his organization, but the big decisions are going to be handled by Tommy and Tommy alone. Lance takes this personally, turns on Tommy, they fight, and Lance dies.

 

Now let's consider Ken. Tommy recognizes Ken as a talented person who could be helpful in running his orgpganization, but it eventually gets to a point where Ken's drug problems make him more of a liability than an asset. Ken never actually betrays Tommy, so he's not going to kill him. Instead, Tommy opts to arrange for Ken to get into rehab so that he can have the chance to get his life back together, but also cuts him loose, refusing to take him back on once he completes his program. Ken does have another chance in life, but not another chance with Tommy Vercetti.

 

Tommy seems to have a certain ethical code when it comes to dealing with his associates. His ability to keep these people at arm's length serves him well in many ways, though I can't help but wonder if a bit more patience on his part may have put less stress on people like Ken and Lance, maybe enough to forestall Lance's betrayal and Ken's burnout.

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slimeball supreme

Yeah, he's a real asshole.

But at least he's kinda cool.

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The Dedito Gae

He's always blowing his friends off, he's rude, he's not optimistic at all...

 

I like Tommy but he seems like a dipsh*t at times.

Can you blame him?

Walk a mile in his shoes, and he's optimistic, i don't think he never came across as a pessimist to me.

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Predator

He can be a mass murderer , drug dealer , pimp , vigilante , pizza delivery man ,but he's not an asshole , i don't know what makes you think that ,he's just a guy getting sh*t done like the f*cking alpha he is.

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Son of Zeus

Absolutely. He's a selfish jerk. On top of that he's a walking cliche' too.

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GamesBoy316

Even though he's an asshole, he's still a badass. There's times where he just needs to be an asshole, and there's other times where he knows he should't be an asshole.

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gtafan2u

I just want to tell that tommy is not an automatic character we are operating it. So why blame this character. If don't want him to be like just download a stripped main.scm and prevent him from being your so called asshole.

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John Ramsey

Tommy is a jerk sometimes, but I'd say he's 50/50

He can be a jerk sometimes and a nice guy the next. It all depends on what he's doing/how much stress he's under from killing so many people and being backstabbed every five minutes.

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Maibatsu545

He was sent to prison for 15 years after being set up by his own family. No one would be a nice happy go lucky person after that.

 

He's still a better character than Trevor.

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The Dedito Gae

He's still a better character than Trevor.

lol, the f*ck this has to do with anything?

He was asking if Tommy is a jerk, doesn't have nothing to do if he's a good character at all.

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Maibatsu545

Im saying if you want an asshole, look at Trevor. Now THERES an asshole. Tommy is just mad because he was set up and did 15 years hard time.

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The Dedito Gae

Im saying if you want an asshole, look at Trevor. Now THERES an asshole. Tommy is just mad because he was set up and did 15 years hard time.

Yeah, but in the 3D era, Tommy is the more rash and ruthless of the protags, he's rough around the edges, look at his treatment with Ken, Kent and Lance, he's not a bad guy, but he's an asshole compared to let's say, CJ or Toni, he's just focused in his work and doesn't have time to lose, he's a rush hour bussinessman on steroids.

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Alexander

Yeah. But he's cool and a badass. I actually like that he's a "walking cliché".

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gooeyhole

 

Im saying if you want an asshole, look at Trevor. Now THERES an asshole. Tommy is just mad because he was set up and did 15 years hard time.

Yeah, but in the 3D era, Tommy is the more rash and ruthless of the protags, he's rough around the edges, look at his treatment with Ken, Kent and Lance, he's not a bad guy, but he's an asshole compared to let's say, CJ or Toni, he's just focused in his work and doesn't have time to lose, he's a rush hour bussinessman on steroids.Tommy has no time for bullsh*t because the apes up North are headed his way.
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mcorleone_9015

Honestly, he's only a asshole to the ones that really deserve, or in situations when he need to make things done and nobody's helping. On top of that, there's nobody in Vice City that he can fully trust and care for (unlike CJ that had a lot of his childhood friends in LS or Niko that had his cousin in LC), which explain a lot his "selfish" behaviour.

You never see he being a asshole to Mercedez, Cortez, and the old man from the printworks. Sometimes he come as a jerk to Ken, but again, these are moments when Ken is being taken by his coke addiction or is acting in a useless way.

The only moments i didn't like Tommy were when Ken is ignored after getting out of rehab in the intro of SA, and in certain cutscenes with Kent Paul. However, can we blame him? Anyone that spent 15 years in prison would be a jerk. Must be a terrible, sh*tty experience. It's very easy to judge.

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Boyz2Society

He's always blowing his friends off, he's rude, he's not optimistic at all...

 

I like Tommy but he seems like a dipsh*t at times.

OK, put yourself in Tommy's shoes. When you get set up by your former boss, spend 15 years in prison, put in exile from your own hometown, ambushed by a drug lord during a drug deal set by the colonel, and have to put up with a neurotic lawyer and a brainless, wannabe casanova, as well as other idiots around you, how exactly can you be the least bit optimistic? It's pretty easy to tell why Tommy is always pissed. He's surrounded by idiots and/or incompetent fools who annoy the living sh*t outta him. I would be pissed the f*ck off too. The only time he truly was an asshole was when he kept on wrestling Kent Paul to the table. That's it. Other than that, he's really more of an irritated man than an asshole. And what do you mean he blows his friends off? The only friend he blew off was Rosenberg, and that was because of his coke addiction.

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Helegad

I just want to tell that tommy is not an automatic character we are operating it. So why blame this character. If don't want him to be like just download a stripped main.scm and prevent him from being your so called asshole.

 

What a stupid thing to say. We're talking about Tommy as a lovingly designed and written character.

 

Tommy could definitely be a sociopath. He seems to show very little positive emotions, even toward those who might care about him, and is extremely goal-focused to a fault. Fortunately he was written to serve a purpose and head up a tale of rags to riches, not to be a relatable individual for us to feel sympathy for, like Niko or Victor.

 

Then again, after fifteen years in maximum security, anyone could turn out to be a f*cking asshole.

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Failure

Tommy is only an a**hole occasionally. He had just come out of jail, sent to 3D Vice City, watched his mates getting killed, and now is stuck in a city with no one to go to, except for a cocaine addict lawyer. That's why he is an a**hole, he doesn't care about anybody in VC. He just wants to get his jobs done. He even has a soft side for certain people. That's what makes Tommy awesome. He's a genius, intelligent, bada** a**hole, who becomes the Don.

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American Viking

Hell yeah he's an asshole, all GTA protagonists are assholes because the criminal lifestyle is not for the feint of heart.

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gtafan2u

Yeah but Tommy only killed those who betrayed him. He was just doing his self defense. That doesn't prove him an asshole. And what else he will do when his boss is repeatedly asking for the money he don't have.

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BlackSnow176

Honestly, he's only a asshole to the ones that really deserve, or in situations when he need to make things done and nobody's helping. On top of that, there's nobody in Vice City that he can fully trust and care for (unlike CJ that had a lot of his childhood friends in LS or Niko that had his cousin in LC), which explain a lot his "selfish" behaviour.

 

You never see he being a asshole to Mercedez, Cortez, and the old man from the printworks. Sometimes he come as a jerk to Ken, but again, these are moments when Ken is being taken by his coke addiction or is acting in a useless way.

 

The only moments i didn't like Tommy were when Ken is ignored after getting out of rehab in the intro of SA, and in certain cutscenes with Kent Paul. However, can we blame him? Anyone that spent 15 years in prison would be a jerk. Must be a terrible, sh*tty experience. It's very easy to judge.

 

This ^^

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nickvick197

When you spend 15 years in prison for something your so-called "boss" did to you, it's not very easy to be optimistic. And who did he blow off? I don't remember him blowing off anyone in the game. He was still loyal to Colonel Cortez, Phil, Umberto, Mitch, and Old Man Kelly.

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Xing of Virtue

He might be an asshole, but at least you know from the start that he wants to be your asshole.

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9i OTD

Errrmmmmmm... yeah. It fits his personality and situation though. If I was locked in prison for 15 years and then immediately upon release got back into the thing that locked me up in the first place, I'd probably be a pretty big asshole to everyone too.

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gtafan2u

Correct but still Tommy hadn't became an asshole. Reason, read the above posts, there's a lot! He is a good n cool guy.

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SmokesWithCigs

asshole? I don't no but slamming that door and scarring the sh*t out of Rosenberg was pretty much a dick move lol.

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TheDamnTrainCJ

Tommy is loyal to his friends, he is just an asshole to assholes like Diaz or Sonny. But yeah, is corrupted as f*ck since he works for the Haitians and Cubans AT THE SAME TIME.

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