The Homing Launcher

[Ziggy_Ivanhoe]

 

 

That makes no sense... the weapon is DESIGNED like that... in real life.

 

 

 

 

 

Which means if your Grandma can pick one of these things up she could take down anything in the air.

... Funny thing is that logic you typed does make sense with auto aim. In weapons that cannont do that in real life.. Meaning your grandma can use auto aim and take down anyone... period.

You seem to forget that we're playing GTA, not ARMA.

balance=/=realism

 

 

 

 

Well when the air force starts sending out a ton of attack jets and choppers instead of cops on the ground that do nothing but annoy the sh*t out of players in the ground. Then we can talk about balance.

 

 

not trying to sound like a prick but... the air is safer then the ground.

 

 

Actually would be cool if the game sends an AI jet or two at you if you're flying one. It would balance things out a bit if pilots have an extra annoyance to deal with like those on the ground. I like that idea.

[n_coming]

Lol show me a vid of a stinger shooting down a modern military jet. Lol you can't it's mainly for Helios. And how is my logic flawed? All the guy with the homing launcher hast to to in Gta is hold left trigger, aim within a mile of the aircraft and press right trigger. No skill at all. That's why I was saying my grandmother could do it. Now to fly a hydra or a lazer and not crash actually take a little bit of skill.

[Trevor Philips Inc]

The thing is, even if people want this weapon to protect themselves from 'jet/heli griefers' this is still a really flawed concept. Why shouldn't a multi million pound flying war machine have a big advantage over an (Already OP auto aiming) foot soldier? I don't own any aircraft yet as I was busy spending millions on ground vehicles and pissing about, and I also never had a real problem with people in the air 'griefing' me. In fact, it's a pretty fun challenge taking on a Helicopter on foot, without an OP homing launcher.

 

As for Jets, well in my experience I have literally stood still in a relatively open place when I see a jet coming towards me, and usually the f*cktard pilots can't even hit me then. So if you don't want to be jet griefed then unless you're dealing with a dedicated scumbag, you'll be practically untouchable in the City.

 

But like I said, these super expensive war machines SHOULD be more 'Overpowered' than a standard guy on foot with weapons. Otherwise it makes these aircraft redundant.

 

Easy fix: Make it a 1 shot down but not insta-kill on Jets. As Jets are better equipped to dodge it anyway.

 

make it a 2 shot down and kill on all Helicopters except the savage. Which should really be able to take 3 on the chin, and break but not explode at 4.

[Hunter]

If you're on your own and there's a good helicopter pilot after you, you're really just better off minigunning anyway, as they'll use cover.

 

The main thing the homing launcher does is limit what attack helicopters can do (can't go in the countryside/will probably die if you go against groups), and it ruins everything that's unarmed.

[.Vooodu.]

You're back defending this broken weapon i see Hulio.

 

How about you do what you didn't manage to do last time?

 

"Give me one justified reason to hate non-weaponized aircraft and why your silly launcher should lock onto such vehicles."

 

What you managed to blurt out last time is that you "hate players in the sky" and that "you don't need an argument".

 

Can't wait to see what kind of intellectual response you come up with this time..

 

 

 

When did i say i hate NON weaponized aircrafts?

 

I don't even hate attack air crafts.. I hate the fact that hey can be purchased and used so easily.. And has unlimited ammo and no air force response when they attack.

 

I play GTA for the action on the ground anyways. Im a ground guy.. I prefer fast cars, fast bikes... and crazy ground sh*t. Not hiding and shooting at people in air crafts on a constant basis.

 

 

And... Its not a broken weapon. If anything it needs to be buffed.

 

 

 

 

Also, the REAL fact will always remain. If you stay away from players they CAN"T LOCK ON TO YOU.

 

I mean seriously.. I always take out my Dodo, and i've never been shot down...lol

Edited July 31, 2015 by HulioG

[shadowoperative]

I appreciate the fact that jets can be hard to bring down. Makes it that much sweeter.

[DevilDaRebel]

 

You're back defending this broken weapon i see Hulio.

 

How about you do what you didn't manage to do last time?

 

"Give me one justified reason to hate non-weaponized aircraft and why your silly launcher should lock onto such vehicles."

 

What you managed to blurt out last time is that you "hate players in the sky" and that "you don't need an argument".

 

Can't wait to see what kind of intellectual response you come up with this time..

 

 

 

When did i say i hate NON weaponized aircrafts?

 

I don't even hate attack air crafts.. I hate the fact that hey can be purchased and used so easily.. And has unlimited ammo and no air force response when they attack.

 

I play GTA for the action on the ground anyways. Im a ground guy.. I prefer fast cars, fast bikes... and crazy ground sh*t. Not hiding and shooting at people in air crafts on a constant basis.

 

 

And... Its not a broken weapon. If anything it needs to be buffed.

 

 

 

 

Also, the REAL fact will always remain. If you stay away from players they CAN"T LOCK ON TO YOU.

 

I mean seriously.. I always take out my Dodo, and i've never been shot down...lol

 

 

Dude the Homing launcher has no counter, you literally have to come up with the counter yourself, I've been shot down with Homing Launcher while making strafe runs in my Hydra, I was even flying circles but it catched up to me.

Edited July 31, 2015 by -Velox

[Hunter]

 

Dude the Homing launcher has no counter, you literally have to come up with the counter yourself, I've been shot down with Homing Launcher while making strafe runs in my Hydra, I was even flying circles but it catched up to me.

 

The Hydra can dodge them, it just has to do a different kind of circle:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/811388-how-to-dodge-homing-launcher-missiles-in-a-hydra/

 

It's different with helicopters though. I wouldn't say it's impossible for them to miss (near it though), but there aren't really any reliable methods for dodging them. All you can do is keep using cover, but once someone gets a lock on you you're basically done.

[Mattoropael]

 

 

Dude the Homing launcher has no counter, you literally have to come up with the counter yourself, I've been shot down with Homing Launcher while making strafe runs in my Hydra, I was even flying circles but it catched up to me.

 

The Hydra can dodge them, it just has to do a different kind of circle:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/811388-how-to-dodge-homing-launcher-missiles-in-a-hydra/

 

It's different with helicopters though. I wouldn't say it's impossible for them to miss (near it though), but there aren't really any reliable methods for dodging them. All you can do is keep using cover, but once someone gets a lock on you you're basically done.

 

 

Don't forget the fact that the missile would often boomerang after missing and hit you anyway if you're in a chopper.

 

The only way to reliably negate HL in a helicopter is to abuse current-gen passive mode as flares with a one-minute cooldown, as done by countless Valkyrie pilots.

[DevilDaRebel]

 

 

 

Dude the Homing launcher has no counter, you literally have to come up with the counter yourself, I've been shot down with Homing Launcher while making strafe runs in my Hydra, I was even flying circles but it catched up to me.

 

The Hydra can dodge them, it just has to do a different kind of circle:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/811388-how-to-dodge-homing-launcher-missiles-in-a-hydra/

 

It's different with helicopters though. I wouldn't say it's impossible for them to miss (near it though), but there aren't really any reliable methods for dodging them. All you can do is keep using cover, but once someone gets a lock on you you're basically done.

 

 

Don't forget the fact that the missile would often boomerang after missing and hit you anyway if you're in a chopper.

 

The only way to reliably negate HL in a helicopter is to abuse current-gen passive mode as flares with a one-minute cooldown, as done by countless Valkyrie pilots.

 

 

They need to give flares or an ECM to Military grade vehicles. Have a cool down of course. But seriously, there absolutely no way to counter the HL right now.

[Hunter]

 

 

 

 

Dude the Homing launcher has no counter, you literally have to come up with the counter yourself, I've been shot down with Homing Launcher while making strafe runs in my Hydra, I was even flying circles but it catched up to me.

 

The Hydra can dodge them, it just has to do a different kind of circle:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/811388-how-to-dodge-homing-launcher-missiles-in-a-hydra/

 

It's different with helicopters though. I wouldn't say it's impossible for them to miss (near it though), but there aren't really any reliable methods for dodging them. All you can do is keep using cover, but once someone gets a lock on you you're basically done.

 

 

Don't forget the fact that the missile would often boomerang after missing and hit you anyway if you're in a chopper.

 

The only way to reliably negate HL in a helicopter is to abuse current-gen passive mode as flares with a one-minute cooldown, as done by countless Valkyrie pilots.

 

 

They need to give flares or an ECM to Military grade vehicles. Have a cool down of course. But seriously, there absolutely no way to counter the HL right now.

 

If you have buildings to use as cover, you can get a few kills with a helicopter, but it pretty much always ends in your death as well. None of the helicopters have a fair chance of dodging it, even the Buzzard, so yeah helicopters could really do with flares.

[DevilDaRebel]

 

 

 

 

 

Dude the Homing launcher has no counter, you literally have to come up with the counter yourself, I've been shot down with Homing Launcher while making strafe runs in my Hydra, I was even flying circles but it catched up to me.

 

The Hydra can dodge them, it just has to do a different kind of circle:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/811388-how-to-dodge-homing-launcher-missiles-in-a-hydra/

 

It's different with helicopters though. I wouldn't say it's impossible for them to miss (near it though), but there aren't really any reliable methods for dodging them. All you can do is keep using cover, but once someone gets a lock on you you're basically done.

 

 

Don't forget the fact that the missile would often boomerang after missing and hit you anyway if you're in a chopper.

 

The only way to reliably negate HL in a helicopter is to abuse current-gen passive mode as flares with a one-minute cooldown, as done by countless Valkyrie pilots.

 

 

They need to give flares or an ECM to Military grade vehicles. Have a cool down of course. But seriously, there absolutely no way to counter the HL right now.

 

If you have buildings to use as cover, you can get a few kills with a helicopter, but it pretty much always ends in your death as well. None of the helicopters have a fair chance of dodging it, even the Buzzard, so yeah helicopters could really do with flares.

 

 

This, It's only a matter of time where you really HAVE to move from that building, and in the mean time locking on is so easy and fast that once you hear it, the missile is already on to you, now take into account turning and finding a building with the correct height takes some time. and... you just got blown up.

[Vova07]

I love the homing rockets,so easy to knock those jet pu$$ies out of the air now.The sh*t was ridiculous before them.

How? The Lazer was really OP before Homing Launcher? I doubt it, since it was pretty easy to take down and once that person crashes/dies in that lazer, they have to steal another one all the way from Fort Zancudo.

 

The Homing Launcher was added waaay before the Hydra, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

You're back defending this broken weapon i see Hulio.

 

How about you do what you didn't manage to do last time?

 

"Give me one justified reason to hate non-weaponized aircraft and why your silly launcher should lock onto such vehicles."

 

What you managed to blurt out last time is that you "hate players in the sky" and that "you don't need an argument".

 

Can't wait to see what kind of intellectual response you come up with this time..

 

 

 

When did i say i hate NON weaponized aircrafts?

 

I don't even hate attack air crafts.. I hate the fact that hey can be purchased and used so easily.. And has unlimited ammo and no air force response when they attack.

 

I play GTA for the action on the ground anyways. Im a ground guy.. I prefer fast cars, fast bikes... and crazy ground sh*t. Not hiding and shooting at people in air crafts on a constant basis.

 

 

And... Its not a broken weapon. If anything it needs to be buffed.

 

 

 

 

Also, the REAL fact will always remain. If you stay away from players they CAN"T LOCK ON TO YOU.

 

I mean seriously.. I always take out my Dodo, and i've never been shot down...lol

 

Buffed lol? I fly my Hydra around, just to fly around, and I still get that annoying Homing Launcher Sound all the damn time. People will just stop whatever they are doing just to shoot someone out of the sky. It's so ridiculous, people who want to fly have to fly really high in the air, or in passive mode just to not get shot down or have to fly around in circles.

 

Stay away from players and they can't lock on to you? Piss off, I think a homing launcher that a level 1 can get shouldn't even come close to shooting down a Hydra which is $3,000,000.

Another complaint thread about the launcher. Always talking about what's fair.

 

Fair is not one "skilled" pilot terrorising a whole session with a Lazer jet. That's what many people here seem to think. Fair is not restricting the best defense (best meaning easiest and most effective in this case) to high rank players. Rockstar didn't put a rank requirement on it so everyone could defend themselves from players in the air.

 

Can't fly your unarmed plane or chopper around others? Fly higher. Can't dodge the missiles while you're trying to shoot players with your Lazer, Hydra, Savage, Buzzard, Valkyrie or Annihilator? Tough, get better. A good pilot can still do what I said above; terrorise a whole session with one jet. Or chopper, even.

 

Complaining about how unfair the launcher is is just silly. It's only unfair if you're trying to get easy kills when you're a bad pilot and you believe that you should be able to do this without ever dying. Accept your loss and move on already.

 

I always say that if what happens in a public session bothers you, you should leave. While this definitely goes for the people you're targeting, it also applies to yourself. The tools in the game allow a decent pilot to kill countless players without biting the dust. If a defensive tool like the launcher is preventing you from doing this, either get better or if you can't take it, leave the session and find easier targets.

 

EDIT: Just for the record, I am a terrible pilot when it comes to offensive flying. I can fly just fine normally, transport and such. But I'm dead meat if I'm in the air and another pilot targets me. I have also been able to avoid dying to every single homing launcher missile fired at me. If you like spending all that time in the air (I do use my pegasus air vehicles, but rarely against other players, I also spend most of my time on the ground) you should really be able to dodge them. Or maybe you're just used to easy targets and you should commit to a little training. Try some of those flight school jobs or start/accept 1 vs. 1 DM's while you or your target are in a jet. Good luck and all that.

You're a terrible pilot? Tough, get better.

[Mattoropael]

 

I love the homing rockets,so easy to knock those jet pu$$ies out of the air now.The sh*t was ridiculous before them.

How? The Lazer was really OP before Homing Launcher? I doubt it, since it was pretty easy to take down and once that person crashes/dies in that lazer, they have to steal another one all the way from Fort Zancudo.

 

The Homing Launcher was added waaay before the Hydra, so I have no idea what you're talking about. g

 

I've said it in the other thread already, but the funny thing is, the homing launcher helps jet griefing, because it looks like a be-all-end-all solution to their ridiculous need to take down anything in the sky easily, most of the average ground fodders use it against every aircraft they see without ever thinking of using anything else, even though it is largely ineffective against fighter jets.

 

The amount of people using heavy sniper and minigun against jets or any aircraft these days is so low, they may as well be declared extinct, and that makes the life of a jet griefer much easier, because those two are much harder to dodge than the HL.

Edited July 31, 2015 by Mattoropael

[Vova07]

 

 

I love the homing rockets,so easy to knock those jet pu$$ies out of the air now.The sh*t was ridiculous before them.

How? The Lazer was really OP before Homing Launcher? I doubt it, since it was pretty easy to take down and once that person crashes/dies in that lazer, they have to steal another one all the way from Fort Zancudo.

 

The Homing Launcher was added waaay before the Hydra, so I have no idea what you're talking about. g

 

I've said it in the other thread already, but the funny thing is, the homing launcher helps jet griefing, because it looks like a be-all-end-all solution to their ridiculous need to take down anything in the sky easily, most of the average ground fodders it use against every aircraft they see without ever thinking of using anything else, even though it is largely ineffective against fighter jets.

 

The amount of people using heavy sniper and minigun against jets or any aircraft these days are so few, they may as well be declared extinct, and that makes the life of a jet griefer much easier, because those two are much harder to dodge than the HL.

 

Thank you!

[CaptainMental]

A good way of using the HL is to lock on, fire and then quickly switch to another weapon. The warning beeping sound that the pilot hears will thus disappear. Its very often effective since the pilot often thinks the HL never locked properly or never was fired thus the pilot does not take measures to avoid it.

[Hunter]

A good way of using the HL is to lock on, fire and then quickly switch to another weapon. The warning beeping sound that the pilot hears will thus disappear. Its very often effective since the pilot often thinks the HL never locked properly or never was fired thus the pilot does not take measures to avoid it.

I've had people do this kind of thing before, so if I hear even the slightest beep, it's straight to spinning in circles for me, and I'll keep doing that for a good few seconds. That can work though, as it does catch people out.

 

In a helicopter it's completely different though. If I'm locked on at all in that, it probably means I've been out of cover too long and will be dead anyway.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Lol show me a vid of a stinger shooting down a modern military jet. Lol you can't it's mainly for Helios. And how is my logic flawed? All the guy with the homing launcher hast to to in Gta is hold left trigger, aim within a mile of the aircraft and press right trigger. No skill at all. That's why I was saying my grandmother could do it. Now to fly a hydra or a lazer and not crash actually take a little bit of skill.

fair point sadley enough

fighter jets can in real life only be destroyed by other other jets

 

edit: or maybe,a non portable missile system of some sorts, but even then....

Edited August 1, 2015 by goldadderXD

[Rabid Vulpix]

- The Savage & Valkyrie helicopters given a 2 rocket hit durability, they are full on military helicopters, not tactical little aircraft like the Buzzard.

- Jets given flares, 30 second cooldown, thus not making them invincible, hopefully lowering the amount of Passive Swap using little craps.

 

 

I never use the HL anyway, except in sudden turn around worse case scenarios against AI helicopters.

Otherwise I just use the Heavy Sniper to pelt players' jets, less noticable & just with a few hits anywhere those puppies will shut down.

Edited August 1, 2015 by Foreverpast

[Hunter]

 

Lol show me a vid of a stinger shooting down a modern military jet. Lol you can't it's mainly for Helios. And how is my logic flawed? All the guy with the homing launcher hast to to in Gta is hold left trigger, aim within a mile of the aircraft and press right trigger. No skill at all. That's why I was saying my grandmother could do it. Now to fly a hydra or a lazer and not crash actually take a little bit of skill.

fair point sadley enough

fighter jets can in real life only be destroyed by other other jets

 

edit: or maybe,a non portable missile system of some sorts, but even then....

 

I'm sure a real jet probably can't go slow enough to pick off individual people with its cannon though, or pull up quick enough to be capable of dive bombing people.

[Hunter]

- The Savage & Valkyrie helicopters given a 2 rocket hit durability, they are full on military helicopters, not tactical little aircraft like the Buzzard.

- Jets given flares, 30 second cooldown, thus not making them invincible, hopefully lowering the amount of Passive Swap using little craps.

 

 

I never use the HL anyway, except in sudden turn around worse case scenarios against AI helicopters.

Otherwise I just use the Heavy Sniper to pelt players' jets, less noticable & just with a few hits anywhere those puppies will shut down.

I'm not sure jets need any flares to be honest, they can dodge homing launcher missiles just fine.

 

If anything gets flares it should be unarmed planes/helicopters and attack helicopters (which could do with proper armour as well).

[Rabid Vulpix]

 

- The Savage & Valkyrie helicopters given a 2 rocket hit durability, they are full on military helicopters, not tactical little aircraft like the Buzzard.

- Jets given flares, 30 second cooldown, thus not making them invincible, hopefully lowering the amount of Passive Swap using little craps.

 

 

I never use the HL anyway, except in sudden turn around worse case scenarios against AI helicopters.

Otherwise I just use the Heavy Sniper to pelt players' jets, less noticable & just with a few hits anywhere those puppies will shut down.

I'm not sure jets need any flares to be honest, they can dodge homing launcher missiles just fine.

 

If anything gets flares it should be unarmed planes/helicopters and attack helicopters (which could do with proper armour as well).

 

 

If you're flying an unarmed helicopter or plane, then passive mode is understandable for use.

No need for flares on a vehicle that's primary use isn't for f'n sh*t up.

Edited August 1, 2015 by Foreverpast

[DevilDaRebel]

 

 

Lol show me a vid of a stinger shooting down a modern military jet. Lol you can't it's mainly for Helios. And how is my logic flawed? All the guy with the homing launcher hast to to in Gta is hold left trigger, aim within a mile of the aircraft and press right trigger. No skill at all. That's why I was saying my grandmother could do it. Now to fly a hydra or a lazer and not crash actually take a little bit of skill.

fair point sadley enough

fighter jets can in real life only be destroyed by other other jets

 

edit: or maybe,a non portable missile system of some sorts, but even then....

 

I'm sure a real jet probably can't go slow enough to pick off individual people with its cannon though, or pull up quick enough to be capable of dive bombing people.

 

 

Depends on the jet, the A-10 warthog is very capable of doing these type of things.

[LightningLord]

Hi!

 

A friend and I were doing a GTA race with Lazer jets and we noticed that the missiles don't lock on anymore. Is that a bug or was it an intentional fix?

[Striker258]

I KNOW RIGHT AINT ANYONE HAVING THIS RIDICULOUS GLITCH... This makes jet fights weak and less fun

[CrysisAverted]

I KNOW RIGHT AINT ANYONE HAVING THIS RIDICULOUS GLITCH... This makes jet fights weak and less fun

This right here does, not wusses going into passive the second any jet gets behind theirs\

 

 

 

 

I did notice my Hydra wouldn't lock onto a ground target earlier... same thing when I flew by a chopper, though I just assumed it was being slow to find its target.

Edited August 1, 2015 by CrysisAverted

[Sky_Light12]

i'm still not affected by this glitch , yet ( both built-in missiles and homing launcher )

[Striker258]

 

I KNOW RIGHT AINT ANYONE HAVING THIS RIDICULOUS GLITCH... This makes jet fights weak and less fun

This right here does, not wusses going into passive the second any jet gets behind theirs\

 

 

 

 

I did notice my Hydra wouldn't lock onto a ground target earlier... same thing when I flew by a chopper, though I just assumed it was being slow to find its target.

hi shadow how are you? Edited August 1, 2015 by Striker258

[LightningLord]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention Lazer rockets didn't lock on to anything during a vehicle deathmatch either.

[Striker258]

The day rockstar broke their own toy jets...

Oh yeah, forgot to mention Lazer rockets didn't lock on to anything during a vehicle deathmatch either.

dam typo Edited August 1, 2015 by Striker258