Meegoo Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) And my fps went from 30-40 to 50-60. I can even afford myself to turn on a little bit of grass and not destroy my framerate! And you know the funny thing. GTA uses only 800 mb of ram (sometimes it goes to 600). System process uses about the same as GTA when it's running. Alt+tab is instant (was about 3 seconds). Edited July 9, 2015 by Meegoo UltraGizmo64, Sweet Bellic, NightmanCometh96 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningLord Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Heh. If that's the case, I may update my PC to have Windows 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karls Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 The question is then, will Win 10 make IV perform better? Sussus Amongus, BS_BlackScout, RoachKiller_416 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Bellic Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 At least for me IV works better on win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegoo Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) A little bit off-topic. Tried CS:GO Before i used to play at everything minimal and get about 80 fps. Now i tried everything maxed and get average 90 fps (at minimal i get 150 fps). The only thing that's not maxed is resolution. I play csgo at 4:3 (1400x1050). At full hd i get average 70 fps So, DX12 does some sweet stuff. I can't imagine how GTA 5 would perform if it would be natively ported to DX12. In some games it literally doubles the framerate, even if the game can't natively support dx12 Edited July 8, 2015 by Meegoo NightmanCometh96, RedIndianRobin, Igor Bogdanoff and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DlZZEE Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) What about other games? I think I'll still wait until the full version comes out. Edited July 8, 2015 by DlZZEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegoo Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Tried borderlands 2 and Dark Souls 2: SotFS. Borderlands looks the same. Dark souls i believe is a little bit better. As far as I remember i used to play at almost everything minimal (with a few exceptions, don't remember exactly what) with about 40 fps. Now i switched to all medium and get 38-45. I think i'm going to try Saints Row and maybe hitman (and maybe just cause 2) tomorrow. I could try max payne 3 but i never played in on win8. Also i'll ask my dad about WoT PS. I think every source game will perform MUCH better because source is CPU heavy engine and DX12 did a lot of optimisations to heavily reduce CPU usage. Edited July 8, 2015 by Meegoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkmayor Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 And my fps went from 30-35 to 50-60. I can even afford myself to turn on a little bit of grass and not destroy my framerate! And you know the funny thing. GTA uses only 800 mb of ram (sometimes it goes to 600). System process uses about the same as GTA when it's running. Alt+tab is instant (was about 3 seconds). Windows 10 copies some of the frames and shows them twice. Thus giving you double FPS. Its an illusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegoo Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 And my fps went from 30-35 to 50-60. I can even afford myself to turn on a little bit of grass and not destroy my framerate! And you know the funny thing. GTA uses only 800 mb of ram (sometimes it goes to 600). System process uses about the same as GTA when it's running. Alt+tab is instant (was about 3 seconds). Windows 10 copies some of the frames and shows them twice. Thus giving you double FPS. Its an illusion. But how can you explain that the game became much smoother? Or you believe in "Human eye can only see 30 fps" BS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkmayor Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 PS. I think every source game will perform MUCH better because source is CPU heavy engine and DX12 did a lot of optimisations to heavily reduce CPU usage. No source engine game uses DX12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegoo Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) No source engine game uses DX12. Did you ever research anything about DX12? No game uses DX12 natively at the moment. But even if game runs at DX11, DX12 will optimise it a lot. And now, don't you say me that DX11 cards can't run DX12, because they can Also, tried portal stories:mel (because i played it a day before reinstalling windows and remember everything). Same settings as before. The moments when my fps dropped to 40 before, now it's 90. In places where my fps was 60 (capped by VSync) now is 130 Edited July 8, 2015 by Meegoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdullah5009 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hmm interesting stuff here.. NightmanCometh96 and Lexus.V 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB981 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Well just 20 days left and then I will check it out too. Hope it really boost my FPS. Sweet Bellic and NightmanCometh96 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai®a©ob®a Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I'm learly about updating to Win 10 already especally because i'm unsure how well my other games will work on Wins 10... Games that aren't supported anymore ClareXoBearrx3R9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMF Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I would wait until the first service pack comes out for Windows 10. That will also give all the game developers time to work out any bugs their games have running on W10. Though I am fine with Win 7. No need to upgrade something that does what I want it to do already. So it will be a few years before I go to 10. But that is just MY preference. ClareXoBearrx3R9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackroseMD1 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I've been using Windows 10 for months now. It's much better than 8.1, and a bit better than 7. I definitely noticed some FPS improvements once the DX12 Feature Levels were activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktestbranch Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm going to upgrade to 10 once it releases. I love 7, but if 10 delivers efficient performance while not cutting the ability to simply open a folder or program like 8 did, then I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trash_Ok Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Tried technical preview some time ago. There was little to no difference and there were more problems than improvements with the system as well as the game (crashing, didn't even work first etc...). But that could've been Technical Preview, was in April but could be fixed now. Still I don't think upgrading to a newer system would double framerates ClareXoBearrx3R9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris666 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Is an illusion and not all the games works i know this because i got windows 10 on january and there has been fixes but what i dont like is the new system of online all time of windows 10. If i wanted to see a pic i needed to be online,if i wanted to burn a cd i needed to be online and if i had one copyrighted song on my backup the disc wont burn,and the geolocation pointer no thanks i pass,the data i view on my house sended to microsoft i dont like it,pressing 20 times the windows start button to make it start i pass,games not working properly and showing no improvements on amd gpu and amd cpu (i have those). So in resume windows 10 works faster on intel as always but now windows made amd a crippled cpu and gpu and that is with the last update. By the way the disc have an installation lock so you will be unable to install windows 10 on anything older than 3 years,my rig was released 4 years ago and i was unable to install 10 on it so i tested it on my laptop. So nope is an illusion it just doubles the frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegoo Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) I repeat, if windows just doubled the same frames, game would be as laggy as before. But i played GTA since launch with 30 fps. And i can definetly notice a BIG improvement. I use steam's FPS counter. After i installed steam on windows 10 i forgot to turn it back on. And even without FPS counter i noticed that the game became much smoother and stable. I broke lamp post and game didn't lag. I smashed my car into a wall and my game didn't lag. So i don't just blindly believe what FPS counter says. At first I noticed big improvement without FPS counter. It just confirmed that FPS indeed went up. PS. And here's one big flaw in "doubling the same frames" BS. Why games like borderlands and Dark Souls have almost the same fps as before? Windows suddenly decided "Hey, I don't wanna double each frame! I wanna double each 10th frame! YEAA" PPS. I indeed have intel cpu, but radeon gpu 3PS. Every game that got smoother uses a lot of CPU time (esecially source engine, which got boosted almost 2.5 times) and DX12 optimises CPU usage a lot. In GTA my CPU doesn't have to do as much grahics stuff as before, so it has way more time to calculate car crashes, destroying posts thus no lags here anymore. CPU can unload and load terrain to RAM faster thus reduced RAM usage (I had lags before mostly because of small RAM, CPU was just too busy to do graphics and loading/unloading suff from RAM). Edited July 9, 2015 by Meegoo Pyro_Indigo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlareEntercounter Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Looks like I'm upgrading to Windows 10! Grichka Bogdanoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael85225 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Been on windows 7 since 2011 and I'm looking forward to the upgrade. Performance on my lower end laptop is pretty good but I'll be happy if I can squeeze a little bit more out out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexus.V Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 there is no difference in performance between windows 7/8.1 and 10 check tests and don't write stupid topics like that maybe you had virus or your system ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCMasterRace46 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Not everyone will get Win 10 on July 29th. Will take a week or two to get out to everyone just fyi. I skipped 8 altogether gladly. But will see what 10 brings to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackroseMD1 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) there is no difference in performance between windows 7/8.1 and 10 check tests and don't write stupid topics like that maybe you had virus or your system ... You're wrong. DirectX 12 absolutely makes a difference, even in games that aren't DX12 games, as it's a low level API that reduces CPU overhead, much like AMD's Mantle. Maybe do some research: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900814/tested-directx-12s-potential-performance-leap-is-insane.html http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-why-directx-12-is-a-gamechanger http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/207598-demystifying-directx-12-support-what-amd-intel-and-nvidia-do-and-dont-deliver https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2015/05/12/major-new-features-of-directx-12 Edited July 9, 2015 by blackroseMD1 Pyro_Indigo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkjellman Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I am glad to hear that there is a significant performance improvement on Windows 10. However, I have one concern with DirectX 12. How are DirectX 9 games on it. Like GTA III, GTA VC, and GTA SA? I fear that they might have issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackroseMD1 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I am glad to hear that there is a significant performance improvement on Windows 10. However, I have one concern with DirectX 12. How are DirectX 9 games on it. Like GTA III, GTA VC, and GTA SA? I fear that they might have issues. I haven't had any issues with Vice City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegoo Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) What I also noticed is that the higher the resolution, the less there's improvement. Full HD got about 3 more fps (was about 20, became 22-24), 900p about 5 (was 28-35, became 32-40), 720p i said in the OP. But even on full hd the game is way more stable. I get 24 fps, but those are very consistent, almost no drops what so ever. PS. I also won't deny the fact that my old windows was full of junk, i couldn't even install any windows update, nor i could fix it using install drive. Probably this fact also played the role. Edited July 9, 2015 by Meegoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris194 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Meegoo, let me guess, you have AMD Radeon GPU, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkjellman Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 So on Windows 10, do you guys get the random lag spikes? Does Self Radio cause lag spikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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