Trillest Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) I honestly don't get why Nickelback is so hated. Sure, they're an average rock band with nothing that really stands out, but is that enough reason for such negative reception? I will agree that Chad Kroeger seems like a huge douchebag and his singing is not that great. I'm also aware that some people consider them a Nirvana rip-off, which contributes to the hate. Please note, I'm in no way, shape, or form a Nickelback fan. I don't hate them like some people do, but I don't care for them either. The only song by them that I can tolerate is "How You Remind Me". To be honest, all their songs are redundant and generic, but not necessarily bad. There's certainly worse bands/artists out there. Edited July 9, 2015 by Ray Skeever, theGTAking101 and epoxi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr quick Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Sure, they're an average rock band with nothing that really stands out, but is that enough reason for such negative reception? I will agree that Chad Kroeger seems like a huge douchebag and his singing is not that great. I'm also aware that some people consider them a Nirvana rip-off, which contributes to the hate. + the bandwagon factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dedito Gae Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 The Raw themesong was cool. Payne Killer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feckyerlife Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) i saw this comment on another website about why ppl hate nickleback. pretty much spot on Sean Murphy • 2 months ago A lot of it is rock radio. NIckelback has so many of the elements that rock radio looks for, they could have been built in a lab. When one of their songs comes on (and they come on a lot), it forces out better, more inspiring work - it's like replacing ricotta cheese with cottage cheese in lasagna. It's kind of the same, but not really.Coldplay, for me, isn't their music so much as their fans. Their early, pre-Brian Eno work is mostly a sad British guy sitting at a piano and singing almost out of his range to indicate angstiness. These songs have similar structures, similar tempos, similar keys - and their fans take them SOOOOO seriously. Same with One Direction or Justin Bieber or whoever it is this year - I don't hate their music, if taken in a vacuum - most of it is disposable, unmemorable pop; it's their fans that are exasperating. In other cases, a band is considered to be trying "too hard" to be a success. Stone Temple Pilots, Candlebox, Bon Jovi, Bush - all bands who are derided for being too accessible or trying too hard or having songs that are too catchy or just not being in the first wave of a particular sound. Edited July 8, 2015 by feckyerlife Trillest, Skeever and reiniat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillest Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sure, they're an average rock band with nothing that really stands out, but is that enough reason for such negative reception? I will agree that Chad Kroeger seems like a huge douchebag and his singing is not that great. I'm also aware that some people consider them a Nirvana rip-off, which contributes to the hate. + the bandwagon factor. Yeah, it seems like some people hate on Nickelback because they see others do it and they think it's the "cool" thing to do. Saliva and epoxi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeever Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 How You Remind Me is the only song from them that I like (used to like Savin' Me, but I don't care for it anymore). The rest of their music is (in my opinion) just "meh". It's not terrible, but I wouldn't hesitate changing to a different station when Rockstar or, God forbid, Photograph comes on. Nickelback doesn't deserve all of the hate they have been getting in the past few years, though. I think it's just another case of people seeing a mediocre band and jumping on the hate bandwagon. Trillest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbid Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 The reason is very similar towards my despise with Coldplay and Simple Plan; The rock is too overused with melancholy so it's fall flat, generic, and repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr quick Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Alright I just went on spotify and listened to Nickelback for the first time in my life, here are my thoughts: While I think it's lame and uninspiring music, it's not one bit more lame and uninspiring than any hard rock or pop rock, or in fact any pop music. Musically speaking, it is pretty much identical to any other music of the same type/genre and I wouldn't say it was worse than any other popular hard rock artist, in regard to technique/talent and musicianship. It's bland music but virtually indistinguishable from the rest, in my opinion. Therefore, I can only assume that the widespread hate is only a result of people hopping on a bandwagon. Edited July 9, 2015 by Marwin Mister Pink, epoxi, Zapp and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega LVI Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) It's a bandwagon effect... Nickelback are nothing to write home about, don't get me wrong, but as Marwin said above, they are no better, or worse than any other hard rock band of this generation. They're not the worst musicians I've ever listened to, but they are nothing special either, just middle-of-the-road mediocrity... And if anyone calls them out on trying to cash out on Nirvana's success, well... it's b/c Nickelback have actually done the right thing and mimicked one of the most successful acts of the 90s for their own benefit... Too bad they didn't mimic them that well. Edited July 10, 2015 by Vega LVI Zapp, Skeever, mr quick and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr quick Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 To add to that, I don't think it's wrong to mimic any band within the same genre, and with an uncomplicated form of music like that, similarities are inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Their music sounds uninspired, generic and they've been accused of having limited subject matter, lyrically. A lot of their tracks sound the same. I also read an interview about Kroeger being obsessed with making it big and studying songs that made it in to the charts to try mimic a "formula" to try succeed. For me that's disingenuous. It's not art. It's not striving to take the listener somewhere new. It's complacent. It's corporate. It's pre-fabricated. It's like taking your hobby and just seeing how you can make as many sales and sort of losing sight of what music can be. I'm not putting Nickleback down. This sort of thing might be good if you are new to music as a kid or are a casual music fan. For those us that seek something beyond pre-fab, pop-rock, it doesn't really make the cut. And I think that's where the criticism comes from. Also, I do believe there are some people that are bandwaggoning but sure that happens all the time. Edited July 10, 2015 by Mister Pink Twang. and Abel. 2 ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossed Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) I was 15 or 16 tripping balls on mushrooms. There was a nickelback concert at konocti habor resort an spa. Had a amphitheater on the lake. That sh*t Would echo across the lake when they had shows. I was maybe 4 or 5 miles across the lake from there sittin on a hill. Sounded like a pretty good live show. Drum Solos an sh*t. Or maybe that was zztop. I dunno. I'm addicted to west coast bass music and still listen to Nofx an old modest mouse. What do I know. Edited July 20, 2015 by Macsnowblind707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic81 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 They're bland and repetitive. and there are some great hard rock bands out there. No idea how some here are saying they're in the same tier. Unless you guys are talking about new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHeartedGovernor Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I don't like him because he is essentially a f*ckboy that wears f*ckboy apparel, has a f*ckboy haircut, did I forget to mention that he is a f*ckboy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr quick Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 They're bland and repetitive. and there are some great hard rock bands out there. No idea how some here are saying they're in the same tier. Unless you guys are talking about new ones. This doesn't warrant or justify the absolute hate they receive, though. I agree that the music is very bland and repetitive, but I don't hate them for it. I don't like him because he is essentially a f*ckboy that wears f*ckboy apparel, has a f*ckboy haircut, did I forget to mention that he is a f*ckboy? This is a sh*tty post which contributes absolutely nothing in that it has no argument. What is a f*ckboy and what makes who a f*ckboy? It's a band, not one f*cking guy you complete idiot. Looking away from that, you argument is still based purely upon the aesthetics of one man. It's better not to post, in stead of this utter garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHeartedGovernor Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 They're bland and repetitive. and there are some great hard rock bands out there. No idea how some here are saying they're in the same tier. Unless you guys are talking about new ones. This doesn't warrant or justify the absolute hate they receive, though. I agree that the music is very bland and repetitive, but I don't hate them for it. I don't like him because he is essentially a f*ckboy that wears f*ckboy apparel, has a f*ckboy haircut, did I forget to mention that he is a f*ckboy? This is a sh*tty post which contributes absolutely nothing in that it has no argument. What is a f*ckboy and what makes who a f*ckboy? It's a band, not one f*cking guy you complete idiot. Looking away from that, you argument is still based purely upon the aesthetics of one man. It's better not to post, in stead of this utter garbage. Judging from what everyone else is saying, I know enough. I knew someone would say this, and I am glad they did. The Internet, everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Their songs are repetitive, the rythms are the same and the singer has always the same style and way of singning. [...] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zook Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I find it quite bizarre that they are one of the most popular bands on earth and I've never met anyone who actually likes them. Besides myself, only a few songs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang. Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I also read an interview about Kroeger being obsessed with making it big and studying songs that made it in to the charts to try mimic a "formula" to try succeed. For me that's disingenuous. It's not art. It's not striving to take the listener somewhere new. It's complacent. It's corporate. It's pre-fabricated. It's like taking your hobby and just seeing how you can make as many sales and sort of losing sight of what music can be. This. They're not just mediocre, they're agressively mediocre. This cynical approach to songwriting is offensive to anyone who takes music seriously as an art form. The reason why it seems like they're so universally disliked is the same reason they're so popular. People who like them rarely call them a favorite. They have a list of artists they like and a large amount of people have them on their personal list (though rarely at #1). By that same coin, people who hate them rarely actually see them as the worst ever. They have a list of artists they don't like and and a lot of people have them on their personal list. People like to talk about things they have in common, thus they get talked about a lot on both sides. This is likely by the bad's own design. Lowest common denominator, music by numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr quick Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I also read an interview about Kroeger being obsessed with making it big and studying songs that made it in to the charts to try mimic a "formula" to try succeed. For me that's disingenuous. It's not art. It's not striving to take the listener somewhere new. It's complacent. It's corporate. It's pre-fabricated. It's like taking your hobby and just seeing how you can make as many sales and sort of losing sight of what music can be. This. They're not just mediocre, they're agressively mediocre. This cynical approach to songwriting is offensive to anyone who takes music seriously as an art form. In the case of cynical songwriting focused on commercial success, that is literally what record labels do and is unavoidable. All pop music sounds the same(because it quite literally is) because the record labels have a hand in every cookie jar and have a recipe for commercial success, restricting the artists from releasing what they truly want to. From an article about this on Cracked, believe it or not: "I'd pour my heart into a song, spend all day making it, everyone in the recording room would be feeling it ... my friends, my family, management, engineers. We'd all be stoked, and then I'd send it to Universal in an email, and a few minutes later: "Ehhhh ... not really what we're looking for." To get that response to my work for the first time was A) shocking; B) disheartening; C) a wake-up call; and D) oddly erotic if you get off on unhelpful apathy. I realized then that we were at the "you either win a Grammy and sell lots of records or get the f*ck out of Hollywood" point. I sent them songs that are now somewhat classic fan favorites, and my A&R dude responded with "Yeah, that's not it" more often than not. Super helpful criticism! I didn't realize I had sent you the "not it" song, when I clearly meant to attach the "it" file. I got in the studio for the first time and spent like five hours writing what I thought was one of my best songs yet, only to hear: "The lyrics don't even matter, write that sh*t tomorrow. We just need the hook. All Universal really cares about is a catchy chorus." And that's what the industry runs on. The label comes up with a chorus, a pre-chorus, and a melody, and then they fill in the blanks with people like me. In pop music, artists are like those Styrofoam packing peanuts, just there to make sure nothing shifts around too much in transit. When it comes down to the music, the labels have a very narrow idea of what they want, and no new artist is going to change their minds." Read more: http://www.cracked.c...l#ixzz2vK53Bm7H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang. Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 There's no doubt about that, but regardless there are artists that manage to bring creativity to the table even within those confines (Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga). Nickelback on the other hand don't even try, or at least haven't in many years. mr quick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr quick Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 True(although I disagree about Swift). Lady Gaga made a point of standing out and I think that granted her more freedom. Twang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 For me it's down to the music being incredibly bland and yet, people buy it. The music is dull by numbers, not at all inventive. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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