Killatomate 425 Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 I was wondering about how to increase body roll. Lowering the suspensioncompdamp value helped somewhat with some of the cars, but others seem hardly affected by it, if at all. Could that be a result of it being modded? Cars in vanilla GTA have so much body roll because of low suspension force combined with high tire grip (lots of lateral Gs). Low suspension force reduces the effect of the road surface on car handling and also causes the "curb hopping" problem where cars dont react to bumps/curbs at all. You could raise the center of mass in order to increase body roll but the car handling is very sensitive to that. everything is affected by center of mass. stability, understeer, cornering speed, braking, wheelspin... center of mass is the least flexible parameter. Cyron43 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRST 4,029 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I was also wondering about something, which is funny too. Namely the cars explode fast when they land on roof or front/rear bumper. When you mod your own vehicle and make it very heavy and the NPC car gets thrown to the trees or building, they explode. With this mod has it been disabled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remix1994PL 72 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) @Killatomate Hello, can you ask you to adjust the settings in InversePower.ini by @ikt so that it is compatible and works with Real Performance Tuning for Los Santos Customs by @chang63 ? Regards https://pl.gta5-mods.com/vehicles/real-performance-tuning-for-los-santos-customs Edited October 20, 2017 by Remix1994PL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicidehummer 303 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I was wondering about how to increase body roll. Lowering the suspensioncompdamp value helped somewhat with some of the cars, but others seem hardly affected by it, if at all. Could that be a result of it being modded? Cars in vanilla GTA have so much body roll because of low suspension force combined with high tire grip (lots of lateral Gs). Low suspension force reduces the effect of the road surface on car handling and also causes the "curb hopping" problem where cars dont react to bumps/curbs at all. You could raise the center of mass in order to increase body roll but the car handling is very sensitive to that. everything is affected by center of mass. stability, understeer, cornering speed, braking, wheelspin... center of mass is the least flexible parameter. I'm not following you. By "vanilla GTA" you mean the stock V physics? Because there is nearly zero body roll there. Suspension force refers to the stiffness of the springs, correct? I've found rollcentreheight has the effect I was looking for. Not sure if you're saying that is just moving the center of gravity, but it doesn't seem like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkjellman 1,746 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I was wondering about how to increase body roll. Lowering the suspensioncompdamp value helped somewhat with some of the cars, but others seem hardly affected by it, if at all. Could that be a result of it being modded? Cars in vanilla GTA have so much body roll because of low suspension force combined with high tire grip (lots of lateral Gs). Low suspension force reduces the effect of the road surface on car handling and also causes the "curb hopping" problem where cars dont react to bumps/curbs at all. You could raise the center of mass in order to increase body roll but the car handling is very sensitive to that. everything is affected by center of mass. stability, understeer, cornering speed, braking, wheelspin... center of mass is the least flexible parameter. I feel like the vanilla GTA V physics have been improved slightly. That auto correct feature doesn't seem to be as strong, and I feel like I can spin people out easier. Anyways, any chance this will be updated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicidehummer 303 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yeah, they have slowly improved (at a glacial pace) handling physics since debut. Finally, the newest DLC cars are reasonably okay to drive. However, the new DLC cars also have NO DAMAGE MODELING WHATSOEVER. You can turn deformation up X2 and the parts just fall off with no damage to their original shape. Insanity. And the ones that do deform (slightly) just squish in like play-doh, not metal crumpling. Not to mention the scratches that look like stickers stuck on, and will continue across multiple separate surfaces. How the hell could they have made such blatant downgrades from IV? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell 3,242 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 What DLC did Rockstar stop adding damage models to the vehicles? I'm using World of Variety but I'd rather not have sh*tty vehicles with no damage models spawning around the map. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyron43 130 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 No word from @Killatomate yet? I'm afraid this mod is dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastakilla 101 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Mod is not dead...Im sure he will update one day. These updates take time Cyron43 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killatomate 425 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Rockstar secretly removed downforce in 1.42 (Doomsday) again. And since you morons neither noticed nor created an uproar the downforce is certainly not coming back. This mod cannot be made compatible with 1.42. It wont be compatible with 1.43 either. Also R* refuses to let me log in. I have to finish multiple Captchas for a CHANCE to get logged in. I am not going to waste MINUTES OF MY LIFE for every login. My advice: Back up version 1.41 and get a cookie for it. its only going downhill from here. Version 1.41 is the one to store for eternity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyron43 130 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Rockstar secretly removed downforce in 1.42 (Doomsday) again. And since you morons neither noticed nor created an uproar the downforce is certainly not coming back. This mod cannot be made compatible with 1.42. It wont be compatible with 1.43 either. Also R* refuses to let me log in. I have to finish multiple Captchas for a CHANCE to get logged in. I am not going to waste MINUTES OF MY LIFE for every login. My advice: Back up version 1.41 and get a cookie for it. its only going downhill from here. Version 1.41 is the one to store for eternity. Hey, no need to call us morons, okay?! So you're done with it. Thanks for letting us know. At least we don't need to wait any longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killatomate 425 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) wow, for the first time ever i have launched the game without needing to login. and everything runs so smooth without DRM. Time to give R* the finger. I can run the game independently now. FREEDOM! Shove your Shark Cards up yours Edited March 7, 2018 by Killatomate Shnockered1 and _ReNNie_ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRST 4,029 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) wow, for the first time ever i have launched the game without needing to login. and everything runs so smooth without DRM. Time to give R* the finger. I can run the game independently now. FREEDOM! Shove your Shark Cards up yours Wut? Can you tell more in details? Or perhaps in PM? I'm sick of R* their DRM too. EDIT So I'm not the only one here who have to enter those captcha crap all over again. I even get logged off WHILE the game is loading Edited March 7, 2018 by SilverRST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastakilla 101 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Yea happens randomly at times for ownership verification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnockered1 101 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 This right here, is why I stopped allowing updates after I/E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnockered1 101 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) As it relates with DLC updates - that NEVER gives anything to SP - I am really surprised there has not been developed a tool to revert back to previous game versions. This tool would simply remove the DLC, and then remove any new entries made in updated files, such as weapons.meta, vehicles.meta, etc. If I could I would revert my game version back to the first version of the release date. So much extra bloat, that serves no purpose other than increase loading times, and removing features that once existed with previous versions. Edit: Nevermind, forgot about gtav.exe, LOL. *shakes fist at R** Edited March 7, 2018 by eshenk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell 3,242 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 All you really need is the update.rpf, GTAV.exe, and GTAVLauncher.exe for backing up versions. I'm surprised there isn't an archive online of the different versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyron43 130 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'm surprised there isn't an archive online of the different versions. It's not surprising because it's illegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remix1994PL 72 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 @Killatomate Hello, I have a question. What version of GTA V and patch was the most developed and the best for handling in the game?Perhaps there is a way to play single player with the latest patch and its contents installed, but with handling from an older version of the patch. Perhaps the creators of OpenIV or people like Alexander Blade would be able to make their knowledge possible, that is the latest patch and content, but the service of vehicles and editing properties from another patch.Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killatomate 425 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 @Killatomate Hello, I have a question. What version of GTA V and patch was the most developed and the best for handling in the game? Perhaps there is a way to play single player with the latest patch and its contents installed, but with handling from an older version of the patch. Perhaps the creators of OpenIV or people like Alexander Blade would be able to make their knowledge possible, that is the latest patch and content, but the service of vehicles and editing properties from another patch. Regards. version 1.41 was the best version. Rockstar disabled downforce in 142 and made vehicles suffer from innate upforce, messing with tire grip and suspension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkjellman 1,746 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 @Killatomate Hello, I have a question. What version of GTA V and patch was the most developed and the best for handling in the game? Perhaps there is a way to play single player with the latest patch and its contents installed, but with handling from an older version of the patch. Perhaps the creators of OpenIV or people like Alexander Blade would be able to make their knowledge possible, that is the latest patch and content, but the service of vehicles and editing properties from another patch. Regards. version 1.41 was the best version. Rockstar disabled downforce in 142 and made vehicles suffer from innate upforce, messing with tire grip and suspension. So that is why you haven't updated this mod. They did it again it would seem. I remember you talking about how they did it in the Gun Running update. Hopefully they will fix it in a later patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Lib 3,633 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 So, have Rockstar unbroken the down force in yesterday's update? I hope so, because I really want to drive that Cheburek with realistic driving physics and compare it with mine. nkjellman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killatomate 425 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 after trying to login for hours and completing 100+ captchas i found out something amazing. update 1.43 still has downforce removed. innate upforce for every car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killatomate 425 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Cockstar's 1.43 came down from its high horse and let me login for a second time. this time around i used a modified handling file and downforce actually worked. i dont know what changes Rockstar has actually done since 1.42 but there might be a way to get this mod working. if the f*cking game actually lets me login. Cyron43, Claude_Lib and Remix1994PL 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Lib 3,633 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) That's some good news. Dunno what to say about your logging in issues though, never had them myself. Edited March 29, 2018 by Claude_Lib Remix1994PL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRST 4,029 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Cockstar's 1.43 came down from its high horse and let me login for a second time. this time around i used a modified handling file and downforce actually worked. i dont know what changes Rockstar has actually done since 1.42 but there might be a way to get this mod working. if the f*cking game actually lets me login. Check auto-login on, that should fix those cancerous captcha bullsh*t. I got the exact same issue here so I checked auto-login on. Not sure but the stories has been telling it has something to do about the cracking gta accounts to sell them for 2-5$ or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkjellman 1,746 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Cockstar's 1.43 came down from its high horse and let me login for a second time. this time around i used a modified handling file and downforce actually worked. i dont know what changes Rockstar has actually done since 1.42 but there might be a way to get this mod working. if the f*cking game actually lets me login. Check auto-login on, that should fix those cancerous captcha bullsh*t. I got the exact same issue here so I checked auto-login on. Not sure but the stories has been telling it has something to do about the cracking gta accounts to sell them for 2-5$ or so. Did Rockstar change something in the launcher? I can't run the game anymore through the GTA folder. I have to launch it through Steam. It happens even when I downgrade. I need to use the Launcher Bypass, which seems to break ENB and ICEnhancer. That or they don't work on 1.43, which is odd since they have worked since day one. Cockstar's 1.43 came down from its high horse and let me login for a second time. this time around i used a modified handling file and downforce actually worked. i dont know what changes Rockstar has actually done since 1.42 but there might be a way to get this mod working. if the f*cking game actually lets me login. Try using the launcher bypass. The launcher decided to start giving me trouble today so I decided to try it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killatomate 425 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 When game update 1.43 was released my logins were extremely limited so i went straight to downforce testing instead of installing the RD mod. Due to changes Rockstar made those downforce tests returned negative. Also: some of the new cars Rockstar has added have rediculous downforce values (normal: 1.0-3.0, new cars: 225.0-295.0) with no actual downforce being generated, leading to the impression that downforce is disabled in general. I installed this mod and measured downforce while driving normally and downforce seems to work. The Realistic Driving V mod version 2.4 seems to work fine with game version 1.43 Cyron43, Claude_Lib and Remix1994PL 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkjellman 1,746 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 When game update 1.43 was released my logins were extremely limited so i went straight to downforce testing instead of installing the RD mod. Due to changes Rockstar made those downforce tests returned negative. Also: some of the new cars Rockstar has added have rediculous downforce values (normal: 1.0-3.0, new cars: 225.0-295.0) with no actual downforce being generated, leading to the impression that downforce is disabled in general. I installed this mod and measured downforce while driving normally and downforce seems to work. The Realistic Driving V mod version 2.4 seems to work fine with game version 1.43 I am glad to hear it. I look forward to seeing the updates for the vehicles. I wonder how quick the Tridant will be with this mod. Remix1994PL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remix1994PL 72 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Hello, can it help you?: https://pl.gta5-mods.com/tools/no-gtavlauncher#comments_tab https://pl.gta5-mods.com/tools/gtavlauncherbypass#comments_tab Edited April 2, 2018 by Remix1994PL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
