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Geralt of Rivia

Again, I disagree. To me, FPV was the best thing they could've added to improve my experience of the game.

 

It's different for everyone.

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Xing of Virtue

Should it return in the future GTAs or kept only for V?

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CarlitoDorito

It's nothing more than an optional extra, not meant to revolutionise anything or change anything. It makes SP harder, no moving the camera around to look out of cover or anything. With free aim, radar off, it makes things surprisingly difficult. There's the new perspective too. I'm not sure why anyone who doesn't even use it would care. It's not changing anything, in online it makes things harder so there's no advantage.

 

As an optional extra, which won't effect people who don't use it, it should be in the next GTA. Even the next Red Dead. Was top down a problem in GTA 3? Would it be in V or is that considered true GTA and is totally fine. What if it was in IV :O

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Imho First Person View implementation in a GTA game for the first time, is a revolutionary step similar to a transition from 2d view into 3d view.

 

Though, I probably said it somewhere else, I hate animation of how character handles wheel bar if FPV. Chars hands just glued to the sides and theres like 120 degree turn radius max no matter what car is it, no gear shifting, nothing. Nobody drives like that and its unrealistic as f*ck. Breaks whole FPS thing for me. Just can't stand it. Paired with arcady driving it becomes really crappy experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Geralt of Rivia

I want FPV in every GTA from now on. That'd be absolutely fantastic.

 

I don't expect FPV to be in every GTA from now on, unfortunately.

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SmokesWithCigs

I like it its fun and its optional you don't have to play in 1st person if you don't want to. stop complaining for the sake of complaining.

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TOOMtheRaccoon

In my humble opinion, I think FPV was unavoidable and only a question of time. I mean, what do you think how many GTAs on how many platforms and generations will come out without car interior views? I could imagine that car interior views was mentioned while the development of GTA IV, but hardware limitation and development time limitation would be blown up.

 

Car interior view, finally! Who doesn't want to switch inside, regardless of driving in this view.

 

But it's not just a racing game, it is a third person shooter, so what is with the hands on the steering wheel or drive-by shooting? How to manage this? Questions and decisions. A whole first person mode was logical, for me. Unavoidable and a question of time.

 

I want FPV in every GTA from now on. That'd be absolutely fantastic.

 

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I agree.

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In all honesty I'm not totally against it. What bothers me is thst Rockstar could and should have added much more important and essential improvements to the gameplay and content in the NG versions first before including stuff like FPV. You know stuff like more interiors, more crime-related side missions, better ped and gang AI, buying safe house properties in SP etc.

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In all honesty I'm not totally against it. What bothers me is thst Rockstar could and should have added much more important and essential improvements to the gameplay and content in the NG versions first before including stuff like FPV. You know stuff like more interiors, more crime-related side missions, better ped and gang AI, buying safe house properties in SP etc.

then the majority of people wouldn't have these features. Don't forget a marjority of people still play on LG. FPS was the perfect bait. Additional side missions would have seen a lot of outbursts on this Fourm from many people, including me.
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100% of the time.GTA in 3rd person is now foreign to me.

Why bother play GTA then ? You're better off playing COD or Far Cry 3 and 4...
That's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read. None of those games are anything like GTA V, so how are they a straight alternative??

Far Cry 3 and 4 are open worlds, free roam like GTA but in first person. My real point is that Rockstar shouldn't have concentrated on this unnecessary FPS bullsh*t in V in the first place, there were much more important things they could have added to the NG version to improve the game. Now they have people like you who actually think this FPS mode bullsh*t is a really good idea, prompting them to make future GTAs cater to it and possibly overlooking better stuff that should be in the game.

 

Everything Rockstar does for GTA V is unnecesary, to you.

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When I first got the current-gen edition on PS4, yes, I spent my first 24 hours using it, but after that? Nah. I only use it when I'm really bored and I wanna pretend I'm a cargo helicopter driver :cool:

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In all honesty I'm not totally against it. What bothers me is thst Rockstar could and should have added much more important and essential improvements to the gameplay and content in the NG versions first before including stuff like FPV. You know stuff like more interiors, more crime-related side missions, better ped and gang AI, buying safe house properties in SP etc.

then the majority of people wouldn't have these features. Don't forget a marjority of people still play on LG. FPS was the perfect bait. Additional side missions would have seen a lot of outbursts on this Fourm from many people, including me.

Imagine the sh*tstorm that would happen if LG users didn't get those things.

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Imho First Person View implementation in a GTA game for the first time, is a revolutionary step similar to a transition from 2d view into 3d view.

Nope, not even close. It's ridiculous to compare FPV of V to the revolutionary 3D view. The 3D view changed how we looked at GTA and made a lot of things easier. On the other hand, FPV in V makes a lot of things harder.

 

FPV in V was clearly a last minute thing shoehorned in to lure people. Hey look, we're offering new content!!! And s lot of people took the bait.

 

If they want to put it in the next game it shouldn't be half-assed like V's FPV.

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3rd person is always in my taste, but every now and then I use 1st person just to see the details of things the dev team has labored.

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Could of done with a poll OP. I prefer third person, first person feels super clunky and more moddy than a native feature.

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Imho First Person View implementation in a GTA game for the first time, is a revolutionary step similar to a transition from 2d view into 3d view.

Replies like this seriously make me want to bang my head against the wall.

Its nowhere anything like revolutionary. There are other developers who deserve the credit for such revolutionary ideas than Rockstar. Just because Rockstar joined the club of FPV by implementing in the GTA series for the first time, doesn't mean its a revolutionary step.

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I´m not really interested in V´s FPV, so I don´t use it often. But there is one exception: when flying the blimp, I really like FPV. It´s such a great view, when you´re slowly flying above the beautiful map.

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I used to enjoy similar experiences ten years before V introduced FPV by freely flying around the beautiful map using a jetpack in TPV and its much better to access everything you see around than what you cannot do even in FPV in V.

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In all honesty I'm not totally against it. What bothers me is thst Rockstar could and should have added much more important and essential improvements to the gameplay and content in the NG versions first before including stuff like FPV. You know stuff like more interiors, more crime-related side missions, better ped and gang AI, buying safe house properties in SP etc.

then the majority of people wouldn't have these features. Don't forget a marjority of people still play on LG. FPS was the perfect bait. Additional side missions would have seen a lot of outbursts on this Fourm from many people, including me.

Well then that would be tough luck if it happened. That's the whole point of a remastered game, it's supposed to be the premier edition of the original, that's the incentive to pay extra money for it, and in this case to get a new NG console. However the NG version only offered nicer graphics, FPV, wildlife photography, and a few new cars vehicles and weapons. Either way it was all very mediocre for a remaster anyway, so it don't matter no more.

 

@ JCobra

 

Unfortunately my view is that Rockstar did a lot of unnecessary and pointless things in V, not everything. Yoga, towing trucks, stocks and shares, are just to name a few. I just felt that FPV shouldn't have been high on their priority list for the NG version, if not unnecessary.

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In all honesty I'm not totally against it. What bothers me is thst Rockstar could and should have added much more important and essential improvements to the gameplay and content in the NG versions first before including stuff like FPV. You know stuff like more interiors, more crime-related side missions, better ped and gang AI, buying safe house properties in SP etc.

then the majority of people wouldn't have these features. Don't forget a marjority of people still play on LG. FPS was the perfect bait. Additional side missions would have seen a lot of outbursts on this Fourm from many people, including me.

Well then that would be tough luck if it happened. That's the whole point of a remastered game, it's supposed to be the premier edition of the original, that's the incentive to pay extra money for it, and in this case to get a new NG console. However the NG version only offered nicer graphics, FPV, wildlife photography, and a few new cars vehicles and weapons. Either way it was all very mediocre for a remaster anyway, so it don't matter no more.

 

@ JCobra

 

Unfortunately my view is that Rockstar did a lot of unnecessary and pointless things in V, not everything. Yoga, towing trucks, stocks and shares, are just to name a few. I just felt that FPV shouldn't have been high on their priority list for the NG version, if not unnecessary.

 

The only thing remastered in the 8th gen versions is the graphics if that even counts, the game was a simple port with a handful of small incentives to purchase the game again. It's the same game on different systems basically, just like how FIFA or COD get released on both gens; the more deeper features that only 8th gen can handle get put on those versions exclusively. This is what R* did with V, except it came a year later hence the new incentives for returning players like the cars and new songs to the radio.

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1st person provides an incredible amount of immersion with regard to certain situations like driving Trevor's truck, the Journey RV, the Tow Truck, the Injection, the Sandking, and the Karin Rebel.

 

For combat scenarios with Trevor 1st person is amazing for hatchet attacks and general melee combat though I still prefer 3rd person for large scale shoot outs.

 

1st person also really provides great role-playing scenarios for Trevor - for example playing Manhunt or Psycho style!!

 

1st person is a big addition and adds a ton to the already immersive sandbox world of GTA V!

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1st person provides an incredible amount of immersion with regard to certain situations like driving Trevor's truck, the Journey RV, the Tow Truck, the Injection, the Sandking, and the Karin Rebel.

For combat scenarios with Trevor 1st person is amazing for hatchet attacks and general melee combat though I still prefer 3rd person for large scale shoot outs.

1st person also really provides great role-playing scenarios for Trevor - for example playing Manhunt or Psycho style!!

1st person is a big addition and adds a ton to the already immersive sandbox world of GTA V!

Glad it grew on you and you love it now, it's all good for you. I just do not share the same enthusiasm and get the same kind of enjoyment from it that you do. When it comes to GTA it just not an area that really excites or interests me. The only FPV games that really got my attention in recent years was Far Cry 3 and 4.

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1st person provides an incredible amount of immersion with regard to certain situations like driving Trevor's truck, the Journey RV, the Tow Truck, the Injection, the Sandking, and the Karin Rebel.

For combat scenarios with Trevor 1st person is amazing for hatchet attacks and general melee combat though I still prefer 3rd person for large scale shoot outs.

1st person also really provides great role-playing scenarios for Trevor - for example playing Manhunt or Psycho style!!

1st person is a big addition and adds a ton to the already immersive sandbox world of GTA V!

 

Glad it grew on you and you love it now, it's all good for you. I just share the same enthusiasm and get the same kind of enjoyment from it that you do. When it comes to GTA it just not an area that really excites or interests me. The only FPV games that really got my attention in recent years was Far Cry 3 and 4.

 

Fair enough.

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XMarqstheSpot

In all honesty I'm not totally against it. What bothers me is thst Rockstar could and should have added much more important and essential improvements to the gameplay and content in the NG versions first before including stuff like FPV. You know stuff like more interiors, more crime-related side missions, better ped and gang AI, buying safe house properties in SP etc.

Important to you, or important to who made the game?

 

Sure, they could have asked you personally what you thought was important and in need of being implemented, but then some other person will complain that they didn't get what they wanted personally.

 

FPS games are huge in the scene of gaming in the last decade. The majority of gamers like FPS games so, First Person View is something that more people will/would use than something that an individual wants. It wouldn't make sense to not have it in every GTA from here on out, OR until FPS style games and their popularity tapers off.

 

EDIT: The harsh business side of this is that R* has to implement things that will SELL more copies so, they wanted to get that FPS player base. I'm not saying they don't care, but they have to operate as a business. If there is a number one and two priority then SELL implementations are more important than things that will please people who already have the game.

 

If they don't sell then they can't create in the future. give and take, unfortunately.

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Another thing to consider here is that this is Rockstar's first rodeo with FPV in a grand theft auto game!

 

Now with that in consideration I reckon they did a pretty darn good job!

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Imho First Person View implementation in a GTA game for the first time, is a revolutionary step similar to a transition from 2d view into 3d view.

Replies like this seriously make me want to bang my head against the wall.

Its nowhere anything like revolutionary. There are other developers who deserve the credit for such revolutionary ideas than Rockstar. Just because Rockstar joined the club of FPV by implementing in the GTA series for the first time, doesn't mean its a revolutionary step.

 

Its revolutionary for the series. Well, that word maybe exagerated. A milestone for the series, call it however you like.

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I wouldn't call it for the series either when it has no potential of being used as much as third person view. I'd call it revolutionary for the series when it AFFECTS the gameplay experience in some major way to make it feel like its equally cool to play as TPV. In my opinion, it doesn't suit the series at all. Having an optional viewing mode is all cool and fine but then who cared for it before anyways. I never felt like its important as many people appear to see in every future GTA, which would just add more developers time and efforts in creating all those thousands of pointless animations than spend it on something more useful.

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Geralt of Rivia

but then who cared for it before anyways.

A bunch of people?

 

GTA VC:

 

 

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/254132-rel09-beta-gtafps/

 

GTA SA:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/710626-first-person-mod/

 

 

 

GTA IV:

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.gta4-mods.com/script/first-person-mod-v11-f2635(220,000 downloads)

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/412129-relgtaiv-first-person/

 

GTA V:

 

Here's a thing someone created for the LG consoles before FPV in V was official:

 

So, yeah. It was a thing people wanted since VC.

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I have never used a FPV mod in a GTA game, so can't judge how effective it is, but I guess it doesn't come with thousands of newly created animations but a few, right?

Its a simple viewing perspective that's unlocked as an option to use mainly on foot than driving ( or even if its both doesn't really matter ). I get your point but seriously that's what mods do. Offer more variety to the game and such a stuff should anyways be best left for the modders than have the developers focus more on that.

Its not really important that's my whole point.

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