Perfect response for heist randoms who want "25%"

[ibsmokin]

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

I'm level 35 and I will crush you at heists. You don't know who is using a second character and who isn't so don't make assumptions based on rank. You may only be screwing yourself. If you tried to pull that on prison break with me you would regret it.

Do not under cut the demo guy in PB. If he is worth his weight in salt, he can clear out the prison in minutes and pave a NPC free path for the ground team straight to the escape van.

 

No role is more important than another on finales. The only role that is useless ( imho ) HLR, gunner. A good pilot will park the chopper on the mountain, get out, break out the mini-gun or RPG and take down all the incoming buzzards.

 

If done correctly, all roles are important. You are only as strong as your weakest link.

I agree 100%. A good pilot on prison break will run the time out before the jets spawn and then just get on the jets tail leaving demo free to like you say assist the prison team and aid with their escape. If someone doesn't see the whole team as equal then they should have their pay cut.

[ibsmokin]

To me. R* decided 15% cut is balanced. If I receive 15 good. more than 15 is great. But less, I'll be leaving.

I've got a question for you, what if you step into let's say the finale on pac standard and the other three have done all the setups together have mics, explain to you what they expect and don't ask you to do any heavy lifting, is 125k a fair cut for one try? (That's 10% of total take) and if you stick with them after and get even cut will you feel treated unfairly?

[BlackMilk]

 

To me. R* decided 15% cut is balanced. If I receive 15 good. more than 15 is great. But less, I'll be leaving.

I've got a question for you, what if you step into let's say the finale on pac standard and the other three have done all the setups together have mics, explain to you what they expect and don't ask you to do any heavy lifting, is 125k a fair cut for one try? (That's 10% of total take) and if you stick with them after and get even cut will you feel treated unfairly?

 

It's a good question. But it's not a likely scenario if the other players are smart.

Look at any public heist lobbies. A lot of players aren't satisfied with 15%. Many even want more than 20% or 25%.

Giving someone 15% or less means running the very large risk that the player in question is going to leave during the mission or start trolling.

 

Smart players will avoid this as it's a massive waste of time and instead give an equal cut.

If they want to avoid trolls and quitters, they play in a team of friends. It shouldn't be hard for active GTA players to get three friends and/or crewmembers together for this.

[Mr Walker]

I don't mind giving everyone 25%. It's not like money is hard to come by in this game.

[AceThaCreator]

Finale hoppers don't deserve 20%+ plain and simple, 15% is fair enough unless you helped through most of the whole heist.

 

Who the hell does someone think they are barging into a heist finale demanding such big cut? Thats like when getting a new job on the first day demanding more then someone that has been doing years and decades longer than you.

 

Gamers nowadays crack me up with the whole self entitled, wanna take shortcuts style of play, very pathetic.

[NomadRider]

Dude tried to pay 15% the other night for Pac Stnd. LOL Me and my buddy on TS were having a blast trolling the punk. 12 restarts later I gave in and left to go to bed. He was not gonna get his 55% payout anyway. He was even dumb enough to let me carry all the money! 20% would have equaled him getting his fair cut. We even played all but the 1st setup with him. Then he kicked our 4th guy and brought in his friend who was a level 20 and wanted to hide the whole way. They wanted to do the lame assed get in the Kuruma bullsh*t. We kept going bikes to the mountain and then

 

You want the job done, You want it done fast and done right. Don't troll the payout 15% buys Fail. 20% gets results. 25% gets you offered to split my cut with the other players and I'll still put in the full effort.

[TeammateHelper]

Humane Labs as helo is easy. No need to take out the jeeps down there.

 

Of course, we still kill them while no Buzzards are around. Pass the time, shoot some losers in jeeps.

[Terrato137]

Who the hell does someone think they are barging into a heist finale demanding such big cut? Thats like when getting a new job on the first day demanding more then someone that has been doing years and decades longer than you.

So. Much. This.

 

Doesn't matter to me how good you say you are, fact remains, I have zero idea of how you play.

[Vova07]

If anyone says "give me 25%" then just leave and invite some new people, most of the people I play with usually accept 20%, normally. Honestly, I've been in the situation where I've just taken 15% because joining the heist finales with randoms is a pretty rare thing since every time you try to join one it asks if you would like to join a queue.

[GTAVNoob]

I give 10% to finale hoppers, 15% setup participants and 25% to those who was an advantage in setups. If I've never seen you before and you want more than 10%, just leave. There will be other players who will do the job.

[BlackMilk]

There wouldn't be "finale hoppers" if hosts were smart and actually invited the players that did set up missions with them.

It happens all the time that I play set up missions, usually also being the "MvP" and not getting an invitation to the finale.

 

And no, I'm not a mic spammer, I don't troll randomly, my rank is high and my performance is decent.

Usually a host will have me doing several set-up missions with them in a row and then they'll invite some other players for the finale.

 

People don't have a choice. I often take 15% in a finale but that's mostly because I just can't be bothered to argue with hosts that seem to

literally be deaf, blind and stupid. 20% is not a huge sacrifice for the host. Fortunately, most hosts that DO invite me to a finale (though again, without having me in the missions before it) actually give out 20% all the time, because they know they're making an investment.

 

Start re-inviting your teammates before you complain about "finale hoppers" and give people a low cut for not helping you earlier when in fact they couldn't, because they were in set up missions with other hosts who left them in the dust.

[GTAVNoob]

I don't give a damn. You didn't help me, so you didn't deserve more than 10%. Most people accept that.

[Colbydogs]

 

Who the hell does someone think they are barging into a heist finale demanding such big cut? Thats like when getting a new job on the first day demanding more then someone that has been doing years and decades longer than you.

So. Much. This.

 

Doesn't matter to me how good you say you are, fact remains, I have zero idea of how you play.

 

 

Oh, you'll give me my 20% and like it punk. Or else the next time you join us for demolition derby we'll make sure you're the first to get eliminated.

There wouldn't be "finale hoppers" if hosts were smart and actually invited the players that did set up missions with them.

It happens all the time that I play set up missions, usually also being the "MvP" and not getting an invitation to the finale.

 

And no, I'm not a mic spammer, I don't troll randomly, my rank is high and my performance is decent.

Usually a host will have me doing several set-up missions with them in a row and then they'll invite some other players for the finale.

 

People don't have a choice. I often take 15% in a finale but that's mostly because I just can't be bothered to argue with hosts that seem to

literally be deaf, blind and stupid. 20% is not a huge sacrifice for the host. Fortunately, most hosts that DO invite me to a finale (though again, without having me in the missions before it) actually give out 20% all the time, because they know they're making an investment.

 

Start re-inviting your teammates before you complain about "finale hoppers" and give people a low cut for not helping you earlier when in fact they couldn't, because they were in set up missions with other hosts who left them in the dust.

 

My biggest gripe with these random hosts.....always crying about "hoppers". Well, if these sorry ass hosts invited the crew who got them there back to the finale, there would be no hoppers.

I don't give a damn. You didn't help me, so you didn't deserve more than 10%. Most people accept that.

Please tell me you play on PS3.....i love readying up for 10%. I do not even argue, i accept right away and then troll like a mofo ! Host like you with your 10% gives me reasons to make dying and art form.

[cdjen93]

There wouldn't be "finale hoppers" if hosts were smart and actually invited the players that did set up missions with them.

It happens all the time that I play set up missions, usually also being the "MvP" and not getting an invitation to the finale.

 

And no, I'm not a mic spammer, I don't troll randomly, my rank is high and my performance is decent.

Usually a host will have me doing several set-up missions with them in a row and then they'll invite some other players for the finale.

 

People don't have a choice. I often take 15% in a finale but that's mostly because I just can't be bothered to argue with hosts that seem to

literally be deaf, blind and stupid. 20% is not a huge sacrifice for the host. Fortunately, most hosts that DO invite me to a finale (though again, without having me in the missions before it) actually give out 20% all the time, because they know they're making an investment.

 

Start re-inviting your teammates before you complain about "finale hoppers" and give people a low cut for not helping you earlier when in fact they couldn't, because they were in set up missions with other hosts who left them in the dust.

As much as I'm inclined to agree with you, I invite the last crew immediately after a successful setup (at least those that were competent), but either we're all split up or they just don't accept for some reason. I mostly jumped around doing setups here and there and if invited to the next one, I'd join; so I fired up Humane Labs for a change the other day. It took me til last night just to get to the Valkyrie setup. And every time I managed to get people for even a cutscene (gives the "Humane Labs Raid" invite, don't know if it's the intro or the finale or halfway through), they leave right before I select the next setup. Why? The last kid that had a mic when this happened proved that there would be finale hoppers anyway; "Man, I don't wanna do this, I thought it was the actual heist! F*** it, I'm out. *leaves*"

[GTAVNoob]

I don't give a damn, if someone trolls. I will start the finale again and get my money.

[BlackMilk]

There will always be exceptions to the rule. You can already tell that people on this forum are (if they're not lying, obviously) different than the average players you see in the game.

 

People here, myself included have experienced hosts not inviting them/us back for finales. Other players here complain about finale hoppers, so one might assume that they're smart enough to actually reinvite players that were in their team before. I know I did when I was hosting public heist lobbies.

 

The problem stays though. People aren't reinviting their team. I'm not sure if it's because they do all the set-up missions and then think "I'm done now, f**k the finale, gonna log off here.", or because they want to play with as many idiots as possible OR because they simply aren't aware of the fact that there is an option to invite the team from the previous mission. Either way, I'm doing set-up missions on Normal with constant failures caused by other players and without getting invitations to finales. Where more failures are to be had and depending on the host, for a 15% cut.

 

Heist leaders, you control this. Think about your team and make it better.

[thebrianmo]

I have never understood why some player are so butt hurt over finale payouts. Everyone else makes money for ever single setup mission EXCEPT the host. By the time the finale arrives, you've already made close to or more than $100K from setups. As a host, my goal is to get back my investment to play the heist AND make a profit and therefore I will always take 40% as host. I have, on occasion, given up all of my money and taken $0 just to help a friend out who I knew was low in cash and yesterday our 2 randoms did so well I just gave everyone 25% and last week a random got 30% for an outstanding performance on their first try. It depends, but my standard is 40-20-20-20 and if you only show up for my finale, you're getting 10%.

[Colbydogs]

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Heist leaders, you control this. Think about your team and make it better.

 

 

 

That's the problem, they do not think about their heist crew, they only think about themselves and their own greed.

 

Its funny in a way, majority of these hosts are the dumb ones, the fact that they rely on randoms to complete heists is proof enough. No player saved outfits, allowing single digit leveled players into heist and then giving them tougher roles....( prison guard comes to mind, hey, here is a great idea, lets make the level 9 the guard and the level 230 the prisoner, what could ever go wrong lol ). They reap what they sow. Luckily, i never have to rely on randoms, but if i did, none of these random hosts would make the grade.

[BlackMilk]

I feel like people saying how much they give other players should also tell us wether or not they're reinvite the players from previous missions.

Because most hosts I've seen don't do that, it means very little when you say "if you didn't help me before, you're getting a low cut".

 

If you're the host and you got to the finale, you've already made more money than most of your prospective teammates.

Why? Again, we're out there joining missions, dealing with absolute morons failing the mission several times in a row (on Normal, no less) and not getting invited to finales anyway. Grinding through Simeon's missions at this time is more profitable.

 

And since an individual crewmember can just join another lobby, you need them more than they need you. Giving them a low cut will often result in you having to restart because they'll troll and leave you. Well done then.

[Presidential]

I'm waiting to do heists with friends/serious crew members. Last time I tried a heist, some dude just kept throwing stickies and grenades at the beginning until he forced us to restart the heist. First time he did it, I thought he was just one of those players in a hurry and got carried away with his stickies. Second time around, I quit. So if I'm hosting a heist and the people seem to be taking it serious, I'll split everything even, every time. Only time I take more is when my cousin is doing the Fleeca job with me. He already has what he wants so he don't mind giving me the upper hand.

[Terrato137]

 

 

Who the hell does someone think they are barging into a heist finale demanding such big cut? Thats like when getting a new job on the first day demanding more then someone that has been doing years and decades longer than you.

So. Much. This.

 

Doesn't matter to me how good you say you are, fact remains, I have zero idea of how you play.

 

 

Oh, you'll give me my 20% and like it punk. Or else the next time you join us for demolition derby we'll make sure you're the first to get eliminated.

Quiet you xD you're not a random

[BlueSocks]

Dude tried to pay 15% the other night for Pac Stnd. LOL Me and my buddy on TS were having a blast trolling the punk. 12 restarts later I gave in and left to go to bed. He was not gonna get his 55% payout anyway. He was even dumb enough to let me carry all the money! 20% would have equaled him getting his fair cut. We even played all but the 1st setup with him. Then he kicked our 4th guy and brought in his friend who was a level 20 and wanted to hide the whole way. They wanted to do the lame assed get in the Kuruma bullsh*t. We kept going bikes to the mountain and then

 

You want the job done, You want it done fast and done right. Don't troll the payout 15% buys Fail. 20% gets results. 25% gets you offered to split my cut with the other players and I'll still put in the full effort.

You're an idiot. Default is default for a reason. It's actually fair but your stupid entitled ass doesn't know the definition of that.

[NomadRider]

 

Dude tried to pay 15% the other night for Pac Stnd. LOL Me and my buddy on TS were having a blast trolling the punk. 12 restarts later I gave in and left to go to bed. He was not gonna get his 55% payout anyway. He was even dumb enough to let me carry all the money! 20% would have equaled him getting his fair cut. We even played all but the 1st setup with him. Then he kicked our 4th guy and brought in his friend who was a level 20 and wanted to hide the whole way. They wanted to do the lame assed get in the Kuruma bullsh*t. We kept going bikes to the mountain and then

 

You want the job done, You want it done fast and done right. Don't troll the payout 15% buys Fail. 20% gets results. 25% gets you offered to split my cut with the other players and I'll still put in the full effort.

You're an idiot. Default is default for a reason. It's actually fair but your stupid entitled ass doesn't know the definition of that.

 

 

LOL. Whatever dipsh*t. I'll fail every time for 15% f*ck the troll host who wont pay up. It's not my payout that is the problem. It's the host who is greedy enough to think they deserve 55% which is more than the other 3 players are getting total. 40 is fair because of them not getting the payout for the setups and dropping the start up fee. 55% is them being a greedy douche. I couldn't car less about my own money. I'm rich in the game and don't need paid at all. that's why I offer anyone who gives 25% the chance to split the cut 3 ways giving me 0.

 

Keep fooling yourselves. 15% is f*cking people over.

 

20% is minimum fair pay whether I joined your final or helped do the setups. Setups pay so no one deserves more for the final just because they did the setups.

Edited June 20, 2015 by NomadRider

[PS-GTAIVplayer]

Someone who is mean enough to pay only 15% won't attract high calibre players. Personally RP is the bigger interest for me now, but a host giving themselves 55% is plain greedy. Most heists need team players, and 55% for the host, 15% for the rest, shows contempt for the team.

[BlueSocks]

Someone who is mean enough to pay only 15% won't attract high calibre players. Personally RP is the bigger interest for me now, but a host giving themselves 55% is plain greedy. Most heists need team players, and 55% for the host, 15% for the rest, shows contempt for the team.

Rockstar gave the host 55%. This isn't something they set on their own. The developers set it that way. Be glad it's f*cking variable and you can actually choose. It'd almost be better if Rockstar set it as a hard number instead of letting people change it given the stupidity and greed that motivates players. Demanding more money or they'll fail the heist for three other people and sh*t like that as if they're more valuable and matter more than everyone else.

 

 

 

 

Dude tried to pay 15% the other night for Pac Stnd. LOL Me and my buddy on TS were having a blast trolling the punk. 12 restarts later I gave in and left to go to bed. He was not gonna get his 55% payout anyway. He was even dumb enough to let me carry all the money! 20% would have equaled him getting his fair cut. We even played all but the 1st setup with him. Then he kicked our 4th guy and brought in his friend who was a level 20 and wanted to hide the whole way. They wanted to do the lame assed get in the Kuruma bullsh*t. We kept going bikes to the mountain and then

 

You want the job done, You want it done fast and done right. Don't troll the payout 15% buys Fail. 20% gets results. 25% gets you offered to split my cut with the other players and I'll still put in the full effort.

You're an idiot. Default is default for a reason. It's actually fair but your stupid entitled ass doesn't know the definition of that.

 

 

LOL. Whatever dipsh*t. I'll fail every time for 15% f*ck the troll host who wont pay up. It's not my payout that is the problem. It's the host who is greedy enough to think they deserve 55% which is more than the other 3 players are getting total. 40 is fair because of them not getting the payout for the setups and dropping the start up fee. 55% is them being a greedy douche. I couldn't car less about my own money. I'm rich in the game and don't need paid at all. that's why I offer anyone who gives 25% the chance to split the cut 3 ways giving me 0.

 

Keep fooling yourselves. 15% is f*cking people over.

 

20% is minimum fair pay whether I joined your final or helped do the setups. Setups pay so no one deserves more for the final just because they did the setups.

 

20% is maximum fair pay you f*cking twat. Anything more and the host is walking away with far less than what everyone else gets. and that's before you even factor in setup payouts. 15% is not f*cking anyone over and your mentality about it shows how f*cking stupid, entitled and self indulgent this game's community really is.

[Mourticae]

 

Someone who is mean enough to pay only 15% won't attract high calibre players. Personally RP is the bigger interest for me now, but a host giving themselves 55% is plain greedy. Most heists need team players, and 55% for the host, 15% for the rest, shows contempt for the team.

Rockstar gave the host 55%. This isn't something they set on their own. The developers set it that way. Be glad it's f*cking variable and you can actually choose. It'd almost be better if Rockstar set it as a hard number instead of letting people change it given the stupidity and greed that motivates players. Demanding more money or they'll fail the heist for three other people and sh*t like that as if they're more valuable and matter more than everyone else.

 

 

 

 

Dude tried to pay 15% the other night for Pac Stnd. LOL Me and my buddy on TS were having a blast trolling the punk. 12 restarts later I gave in and left to go to bed. He was not gonna get his 55% payout anyway. He was even dumb enough to let me carry all the money! 20% would have equaled him getting his fair cut. We even played all but the 1st setup with him. Then he kicked our 4th guy and brought in his friend who was a level 20 and wanted to hide the whole way. They wanted to do the lame assed get in the Kuruma bullsh*t. We kept going bikes to the mountain and then

 

You want the job done, You want it done fast and done right. Don't troll the payout 15% buys Fail. 20% gets results. 25% gets you offered to split my cut with the other players and I'll still put in the full effort.

You're an idiot. Default is default for a reason. It's actually fair but your stupid entitled ass doesn't know the definition of that.

 

 

LOL. Whatever dipsh*t. I'll fail every time for 15% f*ck the troll host who wont pay up. It's not my payout that is the problem. It's the host who is greedy enough to think they deserve 55% which is more than the other 3 players are getting total. 40 is fair because of them not getting the payout for the setups and dropping the start up fee. 55% is them being a greedy douche. I couldn't car less about my own money. I'm rich in the game and don't need paid at all. that's why I offer anyone who gives 25% the chance to split the cut 3 ways giving me 0.

 

Keep fooling yourselves. 15% is f*cking people over.

 

20% is minimum fair pay whether I joined your final or helped do the setups. Setups pay so no one deserves more for the final just because they did the setups.

 

20% is maximum fair pay you f*cking twat. Anything more and the host is walking away with far less than what everyone else gets. and that's before you even factor in setup payouts. 15% is not f*cking anyone over and your mentality about it shows how f*cking stupid, entitled and self indulgent this game's community really is.

 

 

I have no issue with paying my team thirty percent. The later returns from patience are infinitely better.

[hugh750]

Got this one a little while ago. Here was my response:

 

"accept now or I will start lowering your cut by 3% every 10 seconds"

 

I was kinda hoping he'd test me on that but he accepted before I was even out of the PSN menu lol.

 

If anyone else does this, leave a comment here and let us know how it goes.

last night i joined a random's (humane labs heist), the host had his % set at 51 and everyone else's at 15, i messaged the host asking to set mine at 25, he replied "sorry can't do that", (greedy so and so)!

i should have left but i decided to ride it out but we failed 3 to 4 times "i think everyone else who joined where pissed at the host, especially at the last try when the host was flying the valkrie and landed it on one of our fellow players.

[BlueSocks]

 

 

Someone who is mean enough to pay only 15% won't attract high calibre players. Personally RP is the bigger interest for me now, but a host giving themselves 55% is plain greedy. Most heists need team players, and 55% for the host, 15% for the rest, shows contempt for the team.

Rockstar gave the host 55%. This isn't something they set on their own. The developers set it that way. Be glad it's f*cking variable and you can actually choose. It'd almost be better if Rockstar set it as a hard number instead of letting people change it given the stupidity and greed that motivates players. Demanding more money or they'll fail the heist for three other people and sh*t like that as if they're more valuable and matter more than everyone else.

 

 

 

 

Dude tried to pay 15% the other night for Pac Stnd. LOL Me and my buddy on TS were having a blast trolling the punk. 12 restarts later I gave in and left to go to bed. He was not gonna get his 55% payout anyway. He was even dumb enough to let me carry all the money! 20% would have equaled him getting his fair cut. We even played all but the 1st setup with him. Then he kicked our 4th guy and brought in his friend who was a level 20 and wanted to hide the whole way. They wanted to do the lame assed get in the Kuruma bullsh*t. We kept going bikes to the mountain and then

 

You want the job done, You want it done fast and done right. Don't troll the payout 15% buys Fail. 20% gets results. 25% gets you offered to split my cut with the other players and I'll still put in the full effort.

You're an idiot. Default is default for a reason. It's actually fair but your stupid entitled ass doesn't know the definition of that.

 

 

LOL. Whatever dipsh*t. I'll fail every time for 15% f*ck the troll host who wont pay up. It's not my payout that is the problem. It's the host who is greedy enough to think they deserve 55% which is more than the other 3 players are getting total. 40 is fair because of them not getting the payout for the setups and dropping the start up fee. 55% is them being a greedy douche. I couldn't car less about my own money. I'm rich in the game and don't need paid at all. that's why I offer anyone who gives 25% the chance to split the cut 3 ways giving me 0.

 

Keep fooling yourselves. 15% is f*cking people over.

 

20% is minimum fair pay whether I joined your final or helped do the setups. Setups pay so no one deserves more for the final just because they did the setups.

 

20% is maximum fair pay you f*cking twat. Anything more and the host is walking away with far less than what everyone else gets. and that's before you even factor in setup payouts. 15% is not f*cking anyone over and your mentality about it shows how f*cking stupid, entitled and self indulgent this game's community really is.

 

 

I have no issue with paying my team thirty percent. The later returns from patience are infinitely better.

 

 

If all I wanted to do was complete them it wouldn't matter, but most people in this game want to make money. And that means hosts as well. If you want to pay 30% to people that's fine but it's not fair because fair implies roughly equal and reasonable, it's a stiff cut for the host to make almost nothing and is therefore not a fair split. 40/60 and 55/45 are the fairest, depending on which side you want to swing. It's more than reasonable that the host might want to make a little more than the rest of the crew (this was Rockstar's intention anyway, look at their default cut). The default cut also falls in line with the myriad of cinematic parralel we have going on with this game as well as the fact that any boss is going to make more than their crew, whoever they are.

 

I play the game to make money and progress. I assume the vast majority of other players do as well. That means that as a host if someone makes demands on cuts then they basically asked for my foot up their ass. As a member that means I expect the host to stick to default for the most part. Not being an entitled asshat opens up more possibility than claiming the host is f*cking you with 15% and enables a better time in the future not having to deal with assholes and stuff, but then again, look at the replies here and some of the people bitching about their cuts and being assholes about getting default. If you want to make demands and run the show then you should be hosting.

[Mourticae]

 

 

 

Someone who is mean enough to pay only 15% won't attract high calibre players. Personally RP is the bigger interest for me now, but a host giving themselves 55% is plain greedy. Most heists need team players, and 55% for the host, 15% for the rest, shows contempt for the team.

Rockstar gave the host 55%. This isn't something they set on their own. The developers set it that way. Be glad it's f*cking variable and you can actually choose. It'd almost be better if Rockstar set it as a hard number instead of letting people change it given the stupidity and greed that motivates players. Demanding more money or they'll fail the heist for three other people and sh*t like that as if they're more valuable and matter more than everyone else.

 

 

 

 

Dude tried to pay 15% the other night for Pac Stnd. LOL Me and my buddy on TS were having a blast trolling the punk. 12 restarts later I gave in and left to go to bed. He was not gonna get his 55% payout anyway. He was even dumb enough to let me carry all the money! 20% would have equaled him getting his fair cut. We even played all but the 1st setup with him. Then he kicked our 4th guy and brought in his friend who was a level 20 and wanted to hide the whole way. They wanted to do the lame assed get in the Kuruma bullsh*t. We kept going bikes to the mountain and then

 

You want the job done, You want it done fast and done right. Don't troll the payout 15% buys Fail. 20% gets results. 25% gets you offered to split my cut with the other players and I'll still put in the full effort.

You're an idiot. Default is default for a reason. It's actually fair but your stupid entitled ass doesn't know the definition of that.

 

 

LOL. Whatever dipsh*t. I'll fail every time for 15% f*ck the troll host who wont pay up. It's not my payout that is the problem. It's the host who is greedy enough to think they deserve 55% which is more than the other 3 players are getting total. 40 is fair because of them not getting the payout for the setups and dropping the start up fee. 55% is them being a greedy douche. I couldn't car less about my own money. I'm rich in the game and don't need paid at all. that's why I offer anyone who gives 25% the chance to split the cut 3 ways giving me 0.

 

Keep fooling yourselves. 15% is f*cking people over.

 

20% is minimum fair pay whether I joined your final or helped do the setups. Setups pay so no one deserves more for the final just because they did the setups.

 

20% is maximum fair pay you f*cking twat. Anything more and the host is walking away with far less than what everyone else gets. and that's before you even factor in setup payouts. 15% is not f*cking anyone over and your mentality about it shows how f*cking stupid, entitled and self indulgent this game's community really is.

 

 

I have no issue with paying my team thirty percent. The later returns from patience are infinitely better.

 

 

If all I wanted to do was complete them it wouldn't matter, but most people in this game want to make money. And that means hosts as well. If you want to pay 30% to people that's fine but it's not fair because fair implies roughly equal and reasonable, it's a stiff cut for the host to make almost nothing and is therefore not a fair split. 40/60 and 55/45 are the fairest, depending on which side you want to swing. It's more than reasonable that the host might want to make a little more than the rest of the crew (this was Rockstar's intention anyway, look at their default cut). The default cut also falls in line with the myriad of cinematic parralel we have going on with this game as well as the fact that any boss is going to make more than their crew, whoever they are.

 

I play the game to make money and progress. I assume the vast majority of other players do as well. That means that as a host if someone makes demands on cuts then they basically asked for my foot up their ass. As a member that means I expect the host to stick to default for the most part. Not being an entitled asshat opens up more possibility than claiming the host is f*cking you with 15% and enables a better time in the future not having to deal with assholes and stuff, but then again, look at the replies here and some of the people bitching about their cuts and being assholes about getting default. If you want to make demands and run the show then you should be hosting.

 

 

...except that I am making progress, by affording the more experienced and effective personnel options with more appealing payouts. The resulting payouts for them make later assignments more appealing, and in the long run, the people on the growing list of experts that I can call will be more open to the once-in-a-while request for a massive adjustment in the pay.

 

It might not seem 'fair', but often times being smart rarely is until further down the line, where it's essentially almost like you're cheating in comparison to the 'I want it now' crowd.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Mourticae

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LOL. Whatever dipsh*t. I'll fail every time for 15% f*ck the troll host who wont pay up. It's not my payout that is the problem. It's the host who is greedy enough to think they deserve 55% which is more than the other 3 players are getting total. 40 is fair because of them not getting the payout for the setups and dropping the start up fee. 55% is them being a greedy douche. I couldn't car less about my own money. I'm rich in the game and don't need paid at all. that's why I offer anyone who gives 25% the chance to split the cut 3 ways giving me 0.

 

Keep fooling yourselves. 15% is f*cking people over.

 

20% is minimum fair pay whether I joined your final or helped do the setups. Setups pay so no one deserves more for the final just because they did the setups.

"troll host that gives 15%"

"im rich, idgaf about the money but i want 25%"

 

Why do you play heists if you are rich then? For the fun of it? Sure that's a valid answer, but if you're playing solely for the fun you don't have to worry about your payout and you'll do the job for 0.

But then you mention that is not fair that the player gets more money, when you don't need the money yourself, what are you? The GTA justice maker?

 

Kid, go do something useful with your play time, I hate to be the one pointing fingers and saying "no you can't play this way" but you're being a prick to two other players who might not be self-entitled c*nts and are okay with 15%, mainly because cashing out 100k for hopping straight to a finale is good money, don't ya think?

But no, they can't take that, it's not fair!!! D:

 

Maybe you shoulda spend some time in the Gulag if you like these communist ideas so much eh?

Edited June 20, 2015 by Bxx88