Perfect response for heist randoms who want "25%"

[FedoraWarrior]

 

 

 

55/15/15/15

= Fail, but not until we are almost done then fail at the last second. Pass it off as an accident and repeat until you decide to quit. or you could pay a fair rate and get it done in 1 try.

 

That very action warrants a report to r* support and I'd record you deliberately failing.

 

Trolling equals griefing and I'm f*ckING tired of IT ALL!

 

Me too that's why when somebody trolls the payout I return the favor.

 

 

LOL. Prove I died on purpose or oops I cut some bodys head off with the helicopter, grounded the boat, drove through the tunnel, made a wrong turn. crashed the plane into the buzzard, got killed by a cop, etc. There's a thousand ways to Fail and you wont even realize it was intentional. Report away. If I report all the idiots who f*ck up on heists I'd have to report at least 1/2 the players.

 

If you keep failing multiple times, that'd be enough evidence.

[Otter]

Perhaps you'd feel more at home on the R* forums instead, Fedora? Please stop antagonizing other members or I'll have to...'fail' you.

[KashKashMania]

My perfect response?

 

 

"Bye."

 

[NomadRider]

 

 

 

 

55/15/15/15

= Fail, but not until we are almost done then fail at the last second. Pass it off as an accident and repeat until you decide to quit. or you could pay a fair rate and get it done in 1 try.

 

That very action warrants a report to r* support and I'd record you deliberately failing.

 

Trolling equals griefing and I'm f*ckING tired of IT ALL!

 

Me too that's why when somebody trolls the payout I return the favor.

 

 

LOL. Prove I died on purpose or oops I cut some bodys head off with the helicopter, grounded the boat, drove through the tunnel, made a wrong turn. crashed the plane into the buzzard, got killed by a cop, etc. There's a thousand ways to Fail and you wont even realize it was intentional. Report away. If I report all the idiots who f*ck up on heists I'd have to report at least 1/2 the players.

 

If you keep failing multiple times, that'd be enough evidence.

 

 

LOL whatever buddy. I'm not worried, Rockstar aint gonna side with you on that one. You can't prove somebody is doing something intentionally if they don't make it look intentional. Bad gameplay isn't a ban worthy offence

[SNL]

 

Not that I demand 25%, but if anyone said that to me I'd just leave.

Exactly what I was going to say.I asked for 20% and the guy lowered 10 and then to 5% I could have just left then but I thought it'd be more fun to wait till we were just about finish the heist then leave and make them do it all over again

[NomadRider]

When a host offers 25% I treat it like they said the secret word. I tell them to give me 0 and split the cut with the other guys.

 

I'm not gonna tell them that up front. I just do that for those rare people who earn it.

Edited June 16, 2015 by NomadRider

[zoso80]

Exactly. I'd think "d-bag" and go about my merry way. I'd let the OP find another who'll take their terms.

 

I've always has reliable steady heist teams that go through them all together. Since I have plenty of money I host and give my share to the person with the lowest amount of money. So it's normally 0/50/25/25 until the final heist. Then I make it 25/25/25/25 just so I make my money back and a little extra.

 

I don't heist with randoms, so these kind of bitch fests, I've avoided.

 

In a way its kind of cool you find out before you heist if your host is greedy or has an attitude. Gives you a warning they may not be the best person to heist with. Freedom of choice to walk away from a sh*t deal.

Not that I demand 25%, but if anyone said that to me I'd just leave.

Edited June 16, 2015 by zoso80

[Busta93]

 

 

I tell them that if they don't like their cut that I'm giving them that they can leave and go elsewhere especially lower raked players who are terrible at all aspects of heist gameplay and end up dying and f*cking up all the time.

You say this, but I'm gonna be honest. I had a rank 1 join the Convoy Setup and I was absolutely amazed. AND HE ONLY HAD A PISTOL! He didn't die and was very good in some ways. I was the gunner in the Insurgent and he was the driver and he was, well, over doing it. Any longer with his driving skills and we would end up in the Alamo Sea. Sent him a text message saying to take it easy. He did exactly what I said and took the rest of the route with caution but still Keeping up with the Barracks and allowing me to take out Merryweather. Great rank 1 player if you ask me. Thumbs up to this guy.

 

That was most likely somebody's secondary character.

 

But that reminds me of a point I wanted to make... Newbs who join heists in the hope of easy money without bothering to go and learn anything about GTA are f*cking arseholes. The minimum level on heists should be at least 50 otherwise your low health and basic weaponry makes you a liability.

 

I agree

[Robaldinio]

I'm never really sure what exactly a fair split of the take is so I generally just leave it on the default amounts if I'm hosting. However, those of you demanding 25% obviously haven't considered the host's set-up fee.

 

One thing I do know is that if someone has contributed to some of the set-up missions, then I'll be inclined to raise their payout a little. But if you only join my finale and start making demands, then you can quite frankly do one.

Edited June 18, 2015 by Robaldinio

[Iroquois]

Generic payout when im the leader: 55/15/15/15

 

Its the most equal. Do the math. I would do 50 for myself but then that means i would have to choose/play favorites which would make ppl start begging. I take into account the 7 following factors when judging payouts: Relationship, skill, trust, wealth, risk, inability to take part in other heists(time consumption) and if they are Team Edward or Team Jacob.

 

For randoms that join =10% and if theyre maybe good judging from other missions, then 15%.

For friends, crew members, 15%. Its 20% if theyre poor and need the money.

 

Me/f/f/f = 55/15/15/15

Me/f/f/r = 50/20/20/10

Me/f/r/r = 55/25/10/10

Me/r/r/r = 70/10/10/10

 

The above assumes sh*tty randoms.

[Almighty Scorpion]

I don't usually host and am one of the people who just joins random set ups and heists. I have no problem with taking a 15% cut, am pleasantly surprised if I'm given 20% or more, and won't waste the host's time with 10% or less. That's because I realize three things:

1: I didn't help with the set ups (unless I did, but I'm pretty easygoing about % rates)

2: The host should always get the highest cut because he/she fronted the bill for the heist and doesn't make any money off of the set up missions.

3: 10% or lower isn't worth the time put into the heist, especially with randoms. In the time it takes to do a heist with randoms, I could easily make money off of grinding out standard missions by myself.

[Nigel le Mong]

If I didn't do any setups, I'll accept as soon as the screen loads. But I've also had 'friends' who always got 20% from me, but only offered me 15% in return, after helping them finish all the setup missions. In the beginning I would tend to troll them, or leave in case of a restart. Nowadays, I just finish it without bitching and than delete the guy from my friends list. In the example given by the OP, you could always exit within 3 seconds. But I'd never ask 25% to begin with, that's simply unreasonable. It's very nice if they give you 25% and should be treated as such, it's charity.

[PressXtoJump]

I explain to them that I don't get paid for set ups and have to pay to run the heist. This has always settled things for me. I had some scrub quit on a set up and then proceeded to send me a message asking me to invite him when the actual heist starts.

[TeammateHelper]

Yeah, I don't know. Most of the people I play with, and me included, immediately press ready. I just want to get it over with so I can get paid abd leave.

 

If you wanna raise it? Sure, why not. It affects nothing for us. Lowering, however, is an issue. I'm fine with 10%, abd some aren't. We want to get it over with, but not for free.

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

I believe the best response is, "Isn't my happiness a big enough reward for you?". lol

[action_pumper]

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

[MatthewH]

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

What on earth are you doing to use 5k worth of armor? At most I use 1-2k and I'm normally taking out most of the enemies.

Edited June 18, 2015 by MatthewH

[Shadowfennekin]

I played everything on Normal as I kept forgetting to change the difficulty.

I did give everybody 25% on all Finales..... want to know how a prick thanked me after Series A one? He shotgunned me and only me afterwards.

 

I've played plenty of random Heists that made up for setup costs. I have only come across a few that try to stiff me or make me take a 10% or less cut......... I even met a few who give 25, If I get 20/25 I'll stick around through Failures but it it's less I might just leave after the first failure if it was a dumbass move that failed

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

No thanks lol

[Mattoropael]

lol at tards who still havent figured out that heists are one of the slowest ways to raise cash in game.

 

Heists are fast... if you're doing it with a group of people you know to know what they're doing.

 

With randumbs the only thing that remotely resembles "making money" is finale-hopping Humane Labs or Series A. Preferably the former since it takes a special kind of moron to **** up.

[Ender_Sai]

I played everything on Normal as I kept forgetting to change the difficulty.

I did give everybody 25% on all Finales..... want to know how a prick thanked me after Series A one? He shotgunned me and only me afterwards.

 

I've played plenty of random Heists that made up for setup costs. I have only come across a few that try to stiff me or make me take a 10% or less cut......... I even met a few who give 25, If I get 20/25 I'll stick around through Failures but it it's less I might just leave after the first failure if it was a dumbass move that failed

 

 

See, if I got 25% (I don't ask for above 20%, the host has a reasonable right to take home more than the others given they have a cost recovery element that others don't, and they're wearing all the counterparty risk for the heist) and saw that happen I'd grief the f*cker off the server. I don't get some people. If nothing else - I don't host a lot of heists, so I'm more of a hired gun and I'd rather get a reputation for results. It's worth more to be to be rehired by you than to lol headshot you.

 

Kids. That's what I'll attribute it to.

[BlueSocks]

Generic payout when im the leader: 55/15/15/15

 

Its the most equal. Do the math. I would do 50 for myself but then that means i would have to choose/play favorites which would make ppl start begging. I take into account the 7 following factors when judging payouts: Relationship, skill, trust, wealth, risk, inability to take part in other heists(time consumption) and if they are Team Edward or Team Jacob.

 

For randoms that join =10% and if theyre maybe good judging from other missions, then 15%.

For friends, crew members, 15%. Its 20% if theyre poor and need the money.

 

Me/f/f/f = 55/15/15/15

Me/f/f/r = 50/20/20/10

Me/f/r/r = 55/25/10/10

Me/r/r/r = 70/10/10/10

 

The above assumes sh*tty randoms.

It's not the most equal and you're stupid. The most equal is 40/60 because that puts everyone else about 20-25% more than the leader, 55/45 puts the leader about 35% higher than everyone else if not more.

 

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

 

You suck at the game then. A decent prisoner can handle it without the officer wasting a fortune on armor. Also, you suck if you're using 10 body armors. You should be using like 2 or 3 at most, and that's assuming you're being exposed a lot and taking heat off the prisoner. Otherwise you're just f*cking up. It costs 525 for heavy armor and you shouldn't be using more than a couple of those, if that. Also, that 5% is about 20-25k. Far more than your stupid 10 body armors. You don't deserve that if you're sucking that bad. Eat the loss and get good.

Edited June 18, 2015 by BlueSocks

[roboticsuperman]

To me. R* decided 15% cut is balanced. If I receive 15 good. more than 15 is great. But less, I'll be leaving.

[Mattoropael]

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

 

5k equates to 10 armor, the maximum that one can carry and is unlocked by level 135.

 

There are at least two armor pickups in painfully obvious sight, as well as the auto-armor upon entering the Riot, and anyone with one functional brain cell buys armor from the lobby menu before a heist, which bumps your armor-spending spree to 14.

 

 

God DAMN, and there I thought I was awful as ground team.

Edited June 18, 2015 by Mattoropael

[Terrato137]

 

lol at tards who still havent figured out that heists are one of the slowest ways to raise cash in game.

 

Heists are fast... if you're doing it with a group of people you know to know what they're doing.

 

With randumbs the only thing that remotely resembles "making money" is finale-hopping Humane Labs or Series A. Preferably the former since it takes a special kind of moron to **** up.

 

If you do it with people who know what to do, it really is fast, even Pacific Standard.

 

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

 

5k equates to 10 armor, the maximum that one can carry and is unlocked by level 135.

 

There are at least two armor pickups in painfully obvious sight, as well as the auto-armor upon entering the Riot, and anyone with one functional brain cell buys armor from the lobby menu before a heist, which bumps your armor-spending spree to 14.

 

 

God DAMN, and there I thought I was awful as ground team.

 

I've never really had a problem as ground team. There's ample cover. I have however seen some people just charge in guns blazing, sigh...

Edited June 18, 2015 by Terrato137

[action_pumper]

At the start of every prison finale I send the same message to the host -

Prison officer 25%

Prisoner 20%

Pilot 15%

Demo 10%

 

Costs at least 5k in body armour as PO. Any other mission I'm happy to get 15-20. Also, players below level 40 should not be able to play heists. It's infuriating and a horrible time waste.

To be clear, I use 3 heavy armours per prison finale attempt. I always have 10 on me to begin with. It's the level 12s and your new BFF, level 8s that cause restart after restart. So I stand by my comment that I can easily use 10 armours before I have to quit because of someone else's learning curve.

 

The lowest level pilot I've witnessed was 9,and we some how made it to the beach, only for them to skydive into the chopper blades and fail the mission. I once watched in horror as a level 50 parachuted and sailed full blast into the cliff face. Ill never know if that was accidental or the ultimate troll.

 

Regarding the on site armour, I generally leave that for the level 25 Prisoner and host. Also by the time I get to the riot van I don't need armour.

 

My point is that I believe the PO should get more % then the other three roles. Ill happily take 10% all day and fly around in circles, dodging lazers.

 

Yes, I should join a crew and stop playing heists on call.

 

Just my 2 cents.

[Colbydogs]

Do not under cut the demo guy in PB. If he is worth his weight in salt, he can clear out the prison in minutes and pave a NPC free path for the ground team straight to the escape van.

 

No role is more important than another on finales. The only role that is useless ( imho ) HLR, gunner. A good pilot will park the chopper on the mountain, get out, break out the mini-gun or RPG and take down all the incoming buzzards.

 

If done correctly, all roles are important. You are only as strong as your weakest link.

[Gridl0k]

A good pilot will park the chopper on the mountain, get out, break out the mini-gun or RPG and take down all the incoming buzzards.

 

I did wonder whether that was possible but hadn't tried it yet. I figured the game would lock you in the chopper.

 

So if you ignore the incoming ground troops does it actually make it harder for the Ground Team?

[TeammateHelper]

 

A good pilot will park the chopper on the mountain, get out, break out the mini-gun or RPG and take down all the incoming buzzards.

I did wonder whether that was possible but hadn't tried it yet. I figured the game would lock you in the chopper.

 

So if you ignore the incoming ground troops does it actually make it harder for the Ground Team?

I doubt chopper's locked. I missed my landing on HLR and the pilot picked me up so he can drop me off nesr the parking rather than circling back to the front entrance while wearing heavy vests.

[Colbydogs]

 

A good pilot will park the chopper on the mountain, get out, break out the mini-gun or RPG and take down all the incoming buzzards.

 

I did wonder whether that was possible but hadn't tried it yet. I figured the game would lock you in the chopper.

 

So if you ignore the incoming ground troops does it actually make it harder for the Ground Team?

 

No, not at all. The ground team is already in the building working their way through. The ground troops are rendered useless with this method and you will not encounter a single one while parked on the mountain. This method keeps the chopper intact and allows you better targeting on the inc buzzards. We only had one death and that was due to a crew mate standing in the wrong spot....buzzard landed on him after it was blown up. But other than that, its been flawless and we do this every time we do Humane Labs.