Perfect response for heist randoms who want "25%"

[Zoots Remuvah]

Yeah for sure.. do that and just wait till about 30 seconds near the heist end and they fail it...

[luisniko]

You think people care, OP?

 

When they want 25%, that means they don't care whether you paid your upfront money or not.

 

So if you do this, they still wouldn't care and just leave you or screw your mission. You'll waste your time.

[All Those Chickens]

I remember being invited to the Pacific Standard Heist Finale and I was to be given 5% cut. I accepted, reassured by myself that I'd get to the boat first and would be the driver.

 

I did, and when everybody was in, meaning we could ride into the sunset under the bridge, I purposely crashed the boat on land, never to be in water ever again. The crew tried kicking it back in and it blew up, killing the crew with it.

 

Everybody left.

 

I laughed.

[Flash525]

You can't lower by 3%...

[Colbydogs]

Oh the pain and agony waiting to fill a lobby.......just last night we only had 8 of us on, we had to run just 2 crews.

 

I really am tired of the whining and excuses you random hosts use about the wait, fails and the demands to justify your own greed. Big deal, you opted to host a heist with no friends or crew and then B&M about your sorry experience. Its your own fault for relying on randoms in the first place. And then you think that any of us random "scrubs" care about your pain....LOL, we don't !

 

Now me myself, I do not ever request 25%, I do however request 20%, which is fair considering what I bring to the table. But again, these skills I am referring to, you would acknowledge this if and only if you re-invite me back to your finale. But you don't.....you host never do. Reasons why you all bitch about finale hoppers. Well, there would not be "hoppers" if you random hosts re-invited us back to your finale, but you don't. You spam invite new crew members while cutting out the crew that got you to the finale as to justify your low pay scales.

 

Why are you not inviting crew mates back to your finale ? A lot of you preach how you have no issues with paying higher to those who help your set-ups, which is easy to say when you do not invite them back to the finale. And I have said this in previous threads, you promised that 20% to somebody, so the way we see it ( as randoms ), you owe that 20% to somebody. And because we are now there in your lobby after your mass spam invite, that somebody is now us, the new random crew. Who mind you, have been screwed out of finales by other like minded hosts such as yourselves. So yea, we want that 20% that you all claim to offer if and only if we helped in the set-ups. Well, we do help in the set-ups, maybe not yours, but we did help others and we would like to get paid.

 

As I said, I will not bust your balls for 25% because I do know that you need to recoup the cost and I know you do not get payed during the set-ups, reasons why I ready up for 20% . But to somehow use your pain and suffering as an excuse for your cheap ass pay offerings, sorry....I do not feel sorry for your self inflicted wounds. You're the dumbass who hosted these random heists and set-ups. You are the one relying on raondoms. So no, I do not feel your pain nor do I give one F about it. You're the one asking for my help and then get all pissy when that help has a premium price tag. Ever hear that old saying, Beggers can't be choosers ?

 

Enjoy you pain and misery, you earned it !

[Chamber53DV]

How do you decrease cut by 3% when only increment option is 5%?

Lol, OP may be BS.

[Alec Skorpio]

I remember one time I carried a crew of low levels all the way through the whole of Pac Standard, and at the heist finale he would only give me 5% and was a real dick about it.

I pretty much spent that entire heist being the biggest f*ck up I could just to stretch it out through all the replays. After about an hour I just played normally and got them to the boat, then blew the boat up and bailed.

 

That being said, 20% is fair for going through the set ups. 15% is fair if you jump in at the end. 10% is even understandable if they're a low level and unproven.

Edited June 12, 2015 by Alec Skorpio

[NomadRider]

Some of these fuctard hosts never learn

[cipher656]

25% or nothing if some c*nt said that to me i'd leave anyway. For my 25% i can guarantee no restarts and advice to new heists players to get the bonuses. I'm worth more than 15-20%

[GR Choke]

Not that I demand 25%, but if anyone said that to me I'd just leave.

[KucheKlizma]

Last time it happened to me on PS:

 

Some guy asked for 25%, then settled for 20% and killed a hostage immediately then started taking the 2nd half of the money, after the host already told him 10 times only one person will be doing it.

 

"You can give someone advice, but you can't give him a brain - host just remake without him."

 

If someone doesn't have the brain capacity to understand why asking for 25% is wrong, then he doesn't have the capacity to be a valuable heist member (unless he's a low rank player who's still learning the game mechanics).

[GR Choke]

You're prolly the type of host that does not set it to player saved outfits

Edited June 12, 2015 by GR Choke

[SCOOBASTEEB]

I can understand not wanting to give someone you don't know 25% but if you purposely make it clear that you value them less than the rest of the crew then they are either going to f*ck you over or do a sh*tty job because they don't care.

 

Personally I don't care what cut I get as long as it is reasonable. I just like to play the game, but like others said, if you purposely make it so that I am on less, i'll just leave. Players like you aren't worth my time

[Escobeatz]

I never value my fellows any less or above each other. End of day we all get a hefty amount of pay and we are all happy. I dont disagree with you OP because thats just what you do but dont expect them to f*ck you over and dont bitch and moan about them doing so.

Edited June 12, 2015 by Escobeatz

[Gridl0k]

You'll earn more money doing heists at 15% with good players than at 25% with average ones.

 

IE, be picky about the crew, not the money.

 

If you're the host, you get what you pay for.

Edited June 12, 2015 by Gridl0k

[roboticsuperman]

If only I could get another 2 players to join before the first quits. Then maybe I would know what menu you are on about.

[AboveAndBeyoncé]

Lol you people feel like you can just join a finale and demand 25% no that's not fair to the other 2 members because they don't get 25% so those people can stick their 5% extra up their ass.

[WarnerKiller]

25% or nothing if some c*nt said that to me i'd leave anyway. For my 25% i can guarantee no restarts and advice to new heists players to get the bonuses. I'm worth more than 15-20%

Maybe, but how does the host know that? I bet every 'tard in the game likes to claim they're worth the most money, but often those who kick up a stink like that aren't as good as they like to think they are, and after bitching they end up being the ones that rush in and get killed.

 

Not saying that's the case with you, but if I was host and you came along demanding 25% and claiming to be "worth it", I'd likely be very sceptical. If I knew you and knew you were good, then fine, but as a random, nah.

Lol you people feel like you can just join a finale and demand 25% no that's not fair to the other 2 members because they don't get 25% so those people can stick their 5% extra up their ass.

Exactly. Chances are, those people would finish fine, even with another player of equal level to them, so even if you are genuinely better, what makes you worth the extra 5% if they'd complete it anyway?

 

Any reason like "I'd get it done quicker/easier" is BS, because not everybody wants to rush every heist as quickly as possible and shoot everything from inside a Kuruma.

[BarryRiley]

25% or nothing if some c*nt said that to me i'd leave anyway. For my 25% i can guarantee no restarts and advice to new heists players to get the bonuses. I'm worth more than 15-20%

You may think you are with more, but you're almost certainly not. All the best players I've played with have readied up for 15 or at the most 20. Why then, when there are good players who will play for less will anyone pay you 25?

 

In my experience, those who demand percentages usually have a bloated sense of skill and are in actual fact average or worse

[PhantomRoxas102]

I mean usually I comply if the price is reasonable, I don't tend to argue or anything. Although sometimes I get in lobbies and the whole team (randoms mind you) get different payouts. One guy gets 25%, the host 50%, another guy 20%, and me 5% ._.). Its ridiculous and I either do not accept or leave because I don't understand that type of nonsense. But anyhow if you started to slowly decrease my pay after an initial disagreement, I'd scoff and abrubtly leave, because I don't find that concept quite respectful nor fair. If you don't like my idea of a proper pay and we can't compromise might as well kick me

[Phyxsius-]

@OP - Fair is 20% and everybody knows it. A player asking higher than 20% knows fully well that it is asking too much and it can meet an immediate refusal - as it should. Reasons might vary as to the "why", but it is still too much and it`s a very much a shot in the dark. Now, anyone with a brain knows that they (the players) run a high risk of being refused immediately, then kicked, because it is obvious they`ll be a pain in the behind afterwards, for the host not giving in, so everybody is better without them.

 

So, you see, OP, the player is already prepared to be refused - your loud mouth and ultimatums come too late and are very much useless. Sure, you can feel better about "telling him off", but you are still too late to the party. Problem with ultimatums is they elicit immediate reactions - and all of them aggressive towards the person giving the ultimatums.

 

Anything else is covered very nicely in Colbydogs`s post, at post #35.

Edited June 12, 2015 by Phyxsius-

[Ashy_GB]

Never had this issue myself but I do offer anyone who stays and plays through the entire heist a 25% cut

[BarryRiley]

Never had this issue myself but I do offer anyone who stays and plays through the entire heist a 25% cut

But then you make far less than everyone else as you have setup costs and you don't get setup mission money.

 

This means that on Pac Standard you would be making approximately $160k less than everyone else unless I'm massively misunderstanding the payment system

[Str33tJustus]

If somebody said that to me, I'd be forced to troll them until they quit.

[Ashy_GB]

 

Never had this issue myself but I do offer anyone who stays and plays through the entire heist a 25% cut

But then you make far less than everyone else as you have setup costs and you don't get setup mission money.

 

This means that on Pac Standard you would be making approximately $160k less than everyone else unless I'm massively misunderstanding the payment system

This is true but I have a lot of money in game and I play alot of heists to keep that money up, id rather make a loss and get the heists completed rather than getting stuck with idiots who don't get the job done.

 

Plus ive noticed alot of players are very grateful when I set it to 25% and they try that bit harder

Edited June 12, 2015 by Ashy_GB

[Tampa]

Almost every heist I've hosted, there was always someone not content with their pay, asking for 25%. You know what I tell them?

"Kiss my ass, you're lucky I'm paying you at all."

Which usually makes them leave, which in turn makes me wait another 15-20 minutes for the lobby to fill up, only to have another group of monkeys wanting 25%.

I actually gave us all 25% once, what a mistake. First, one of the monkeys still wouldn't ready up. I messaged him "ready up, let's do this" and he replies......

"I want more"

I immediately lost my mind, so much to the point I plugged in my mic and peppered him with the most vulgar and obscene language I could think of.

 

And to all of you who say you have special "skills", shut up. There are millions of players who have played since day one on last gen who are just as good if not better than you. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. Looking at you, Grand Theft Amanda.

[Turkish Turketarian]

^Lol maybe they wouldn't always leave making you have to wait an extra 20 minutes to find another player if you weren't an asshole about it. I know it's tempting to respond with a rude message but typically that's going to get you looking for another member all over again.

 

So far, I've only had one guy ask me for 25%. I simply messages him back with "you realize I had to pay to start the heist and didn't get paid for any of the setups right?" He readied up on 20% no problem.

 

If you aren't an ass about it, they probably won't feel the need to say f*ck it and leave. Now if the person was demanding it and acting like a douche (which I doubt everyone you came across was), then by all means be an asshole

[ByePolar]

I always give 25% even though I front money to start a heist. I make up any money that I front by doing other players heist or setups. Sitting on 21 mil (legit money), because I don't buy every gawd damn super sport car, R* spits out its ass.

[ktek01]

I would have accepted, and failed in every way possible, because OP is a dick.

[TheComedianIsDead]

IMO, this tactic is nothing more than "poking the bear" and opening yourself up to have the sh*t trolled out of your session.

 

When it comes to payouts, I like to live by this mantra: "Good help isn't cheap and cheap help isn't good".

Also, some of the Heist jobs require a lot more work than others. I, personally, won't pilot the Prison Heist for less than 20%. Period.

Edited June 12, 2015 by TheComedianIsDead