LordRaijin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) When Michael betrayed them. If he wouldn`t do this then Trevor and Brad would do the same and worse to him and his family as evidenced by the dialogue between Trevor and Wayde. "Trevor: So little Trevor made a new friend called Brad, and he was thinking about cutting Mike off, when it all went to sh*t and Mike got killed and Brad went to jail!" I think Mike did the right thing and he didn`t do it so much for himself but for his family. He was in fear for his young family and he knew Trevor can freak out any moment. And i hate how the story is always portraying Michael as the bad backstabber while Trevor is just a poor naive soul who is "loyal" and a good friend. Bullsh*t! It`s totally reverse in my opinion. Your thoughts on this? Michael DID do the right thing. Examine the evidence: 1. Trevor is a cannibal 2. Trevor is a rapist 3. Trevor is unpredictable 4. Trevor is so bad that the FIB made a deal with a career multi-million dollar criminal (Michael) to STOP Trevor Michael has a family, wanted one last score before retiring forever AND to put and end to the monster that is Trevor. A little back story would be nice, but I have to imagine it goes something like this: Michael was a good thief, doing his thing on his own, then he met Trevor one day and couldn't get away from him. How COULD you escape Trevor? Look what he did to Johnny, after all... Michael was bound to end up the same way because of how psychotic Trevor is. So, he decides to hang up his life of crime and retire gracefully in exchange for stopping Trevor, whom is apparently such a threat that even the FIB wants him dead bad enough to warrant letting a murderous thief like Michael get away free and clear. Michael did the right thing... but in the back of his mind, he knows Trevor is also the only person who has ever shown Michael an ounce of real respect, or love, so part of him doesn't want him dead, either. The story is actually pretty good if you read beyond all the bullsh*t. Michael has a family yet doesn't act like the typical family man that hes suppose to take on. Michael cheats on his wife by having sex with hookers. He doesn't seem to give a sh*t if his daughter goes out, and blows every guy in Los Santos. Not once did he ever punished her for selling her body out just to go places. Michael can afford to buy a nice fancy yacht for him to enjoy yet can't seem to find the money to buy his son a car... oh and by the way he cared for his stolen boat a lot more than he did with his flesh n blood son. Didn't seem to care much about his son being kidnapped only that his boat was being stolen. Even his son got annoyed by his reaction considering what he been through. I'm getting so sick of tired of hearing the excuses from the Michael fan boys here about how Michael was shackled up to Trevor, not being able to escape. That is just f*cking bullsh*t right there. Michael confessed to his Shrink that he LOVES the life of crime. Even his shrink said that hes addicted to chaos. He had no intention of retiring. There it is, the fan boy term. Do you have some sort of phobia of other people's opinions? Christ. Anyway, yeah, Michael DID and DOES love his life of crime. But Trevor is on another level. Trevor was too much. Michael is careful, methodical, smart. Trevor is absolutely out of control and puts Michael in danger CONSTANTLY. No I don't have a fear of peoples opinions. In fact I praise it. What I don't accept is false opinions.... opinions that are not true at all. In fact the only thing that puts Michael in danger is MICHAEL. It was Michael stupid actions that pissed off a billionaire to the point where he sent mercenaries from Merryweather to his house to kill his family for revenge. It wasn't Trevors fault but Michael. Edited June 10, 2015 by LordRaijin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM00V OPERATOR Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 mike is a coward and a snitch... he is a puppet and claims his family comes first but yet he sits on his ass and waits for them to come back to him before finding motivation to punch and even bigger coward yogi nerd in an attempt to woo his next ex wife like a jr. high student. what a punk. trevor should have cut mike in half. LordRaijin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramin728 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 there are so many reasons: 1- trevor is the second most badass gta protagonist of all time. 2- brad wasn't meant to die. this makes his death much sadder. 3- trevor has an emotional and caring side. through the story we see how he puts himself and his best friend in danger to have the love of his life, patricia. also he cares about mikes family and loves tracey like his daughter. 4- unlike most of the protagonists, trevor respects women. 5- trevor saw his best friends cadaver in grave. this is a huge emotional pain. 6- unlike mike, trevor refuse to kill his best friend, he even gets mad at franklin when he says it in first place. A.O.D.88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSnow176 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) I felt bad that Trevor was initially supposed to be shot and killed in 2004, but by accident Brad took the bullet. And that Michael then kept lying to him all the time after their reunited. Couldn't blame Trevor for leaving Michael to the Chinese after learning the truth. Trevor's the only one in this game who's not out purely for himself, even though he may be psychotic. The fact that he didn't pull the trigger in the graveyard, despite Michael lying in his face, was remarkable. (the ending where Franklin chases Trevor to kill him, only for Michael to pop out of nowhere and possibly kill him himself is even sadder) Didn't really care about Brad, he was an a$$ Edited June 10, 2015 by BlackSnow176 ramin728, Nendow and A.O.D.88 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRaijin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 mike is a coward and a snitch... he is a puppet and claims his family comes first but yet he sits on his ass and waits for them to come back to him before finding motivation to punch and even bigger coward yogi nerd in an attempt to woo his next ex wife like a jr. high student. what a punk. trevor should have cut mike in half. Family comes first my ass. If family came first he would of given up his past life for good, and actually get a real job that actually contribute to society. SM00V OPERATOR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Hipster Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 imagine if brad didn't walk in front of trevor and trevor ended up taking the bullet. the entire storyline of V would of changed. YOGDUSH should write a theory on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Vlad Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 imagine if brad didn't walk in front of trevor and trevor ended up taking the bullet. the entire storyline of V would of changed. YOGDUSH should write a theory on that. And now imagine Michael forgot his bulletproof vest, all of Greenrock´s "Franklin only" wet dreams would become true. BlackSnow176 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSnow176 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 imagine if brad didn't walk in front of trevor and trevor ended up taking the bullet. the entire storyline of V would of changed. YOGDUSH should write a theory on that. And now imagine Michael forgot his bulletproof vest, all of Greenrock´s "Franklin only" wet dreams would become true. Imagine if Michael never injured himself. GTA V would've been NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Hipster Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 alot of cool potential theory threads for YOGDUSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racuch89 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 imagine if brad didn't walk in front of trevor and trevor ended up taking the bullet. the entire storyline of V would of changed. YOGDUSH should write a theory on that. There would be no gta 5 then. Brad surely died by accident but he couldn't probably escape and evade police for so many years like Trevor did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 imagine if brad didn't walk in front of trevor and trevor ended up taking the bullet. the entire storyline of V would of changed. YOGDUSH should write a theory on that. If Trevor had of been killed in the first 10 minutes I wouldn't have any Trevor fanboys to taunt which makes me sad. iiCriminnaaL and Homicidal Hipster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 imagine if brad didn't walk in front of trevor and trevor ended up taking the bullet. the entire storyline of V would of changed. YOGDUSH should write a theory on that. If Trevor had of been killed in the first 10 minutes I wouldn't have any Trevor fanboys to taunt which makes me sad. We'd certainly not have a Butt Monkey, for sure. nicktestbranch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Hipster Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm glad trevor didn't die. I kind of like him. please don't ban me for this pulp. Algonquin Assassin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm glad trevor didn't die. I kind of like him. please don't ban me for this pulp. See you later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm glad trevor didn't die. I kind of like him. please don't ban me for this pulp. *User was instantly banned for publically displaying a liking for Trevor in my presence*. Homicidal Hipster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Vlad Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm glad trevor didn't die. I kind of like him. please don't ban me for this pulp. Lol, you´re not the only IV fan who kinda likes Trevor. With some new clothes from suburban, a new haircut and perhaps a baseball cap he almost looks like a human being. Homicidal Hipster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGTFan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Michael is probably getting tormented by Brad and Molly in the afterlife right now. (In my playthrough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm glad trevor didn't die. I kind of like him. please don't ban me for this pulp. Lol, you´re not the only IV fan who kinda likes Trevor. With some new clothes from suburban, a new haircut and perhaps a baseball cap he almost looks like a human being. However he is forever tarnished because of a well known incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Vlad Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) I'm glad trevor didn't die. I kind of like him. please don't ban me for this pulp. Lol, you´re not the only IV fan who kinda likes Trevor. With some new clothes from suburban, a new haircut and perhaps a baseball cap he almost looks like a human being. However he is forever tarnished because of a well known incident. Well, I´m a big TLaD fan but I have to admit, I don´t give a sh*t about this incident. It´s just a silly element thrown in for cheap shock value, nothing more. They put in the objective to kill Terry and Clay for the same reason. So I don´t bother about the first part of "Mr. Philips". And since the rest of the bikers in this mission have nothing to do with TLaD other than the name "The Lost", I enjoy the part after arriving in Stab City. A nice shootout while a great mission theme is playing. Edited June 10, 2015 by Doctor Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 When Michael betrayed them. If he wouldn`t do this then Trevor and Brad would do the same and worse to him and his family as evidenced by the dialogue between Trevor and Wayde. "Trevor: So little Trevor made a new friend called Brad, and he was thinking about cutting Mike off, when it all went to sh*t and Mike got killed and Brad went to jail!" I think Mike did the right thing and he didn`t do it so much for himself but for his family. He was in fear for his young family and he knew Trevor can freak out any moment. And i hate how the story is always portraying Michael as the bad backstabber while Trevor is just a poor naive soul who is "loyal" and a good friend. Bullsh*t! It`s totally reverse in my opinion. Your thoughts on this? Michael DID do the right thing. Examine the evidence: 1. Trevor is a cannibal 2. Trevor is a rapist 3. Trevor is unpredictable 4. Trevor is so bad that the FIB made a deal with a career multi-million dollar criminal (Michael) to STOP Trevor Michael has a family, wanted one last score before retiring forever AND to put and end to the monster that is Trevor. A little back story would be nice, but I have to imagine it goes something like this: Michael was a good thief, doing his thing on his own, then he met Trevor one day and couldn't get away from him. How COULD you escape Trevor? Look what he did to Johnny, after all... Michael was bound to end up the same way because of how psychotic Trevor is. So, he decides to hang up his life of crime and retire gracefully in exchange for stopping Trevor, whom is apparently such a threat that even the FIB wants him dead bad enough to warrant letting a murderous thief like Michael get away free and clear. Michael did the right thing... but in the back of his mind, he knows Trevor is also the only person who has ever shown Michael an ounce of real respect, or love, so part of him doesn't want him dead, either. The story is actually pretty good if you read beyond all the bullsh*t. Michael has a family yet doesn't act like the typical family man that hes suppose to take on. Michael cheats on his wife by having sex with hookers. He doesn't seem to give a sh*t if his daughter goes out, and blows every guy in Los Santos. Not once did he ever punished her for selling her body out just to go places. Michael can afford to buy a nice fancy yacht for him to enjoy yet can't seem to find the money to buy his son a car... oh and by the way he cared for his stolen boat a lot more than he did with his flesh n blood son. Didn't seem to care much about his son being kidnapped only that his boat was being stolen. Even his son got annoyed by his reaction considering what he been through. I'm getting so sick of tired of hearing the excuses from the Michael fan boys here about how Michael was shackled up to Trevor, not being able to escape. That is just f*cking bullsh*t right there. Michael confessed to his Shrink that he LOVES the life of crime. Even his shrink said that hes addicted to chaos. He had no intention of retiring. You`re joking right? Didn`t you realize yet just how badly f*cked up Mike`s family is? A wife is being nothing but a cheap slut, a whore, a former trailer trash queen turned out wannabe high Rockford Hills madame? Tracey a total stupid bitch who cares nothing but making porns and being famous. Have you ever tried to call her number? Try it and see what she says. Then there`s that fat, lazy f*ck Jimmy who is probably the most annoying GTA character ever. A fat, incompetent, lazy, COD playing douchebag who drugged his own father, took his car and emptied his bank account. And you feel bad for that f*cking idiot?. I`m sorry but if this was my family i`d put .50 AE bullet into their heads, bury them into the sand and commit a f*cking suicide. I get that you hate Michael and i can uunderstand your opinion because after all he is a selfish prick. But feeling bad for his trash of a family? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGTFan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) @MrDeSanta Michael is the one who turned them into a trash family, the guy had ruined them with all the money, drugs, sex, and violence in LS. It's simple, Poor Parenting. Trevor even said it himself. Besides, you can't expect a criminal to be the Father of the Year, his death was just business. Edited June 10, 2015 by SuperGTFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) @MrDeSanta Michael is the one who turned them into a trash family, the guy had ruined them with all the money, drugs, sex, and violence in LS. It's simple, Poor Parenting. Trevor even said it himself. Besides, you can't expect a criminal to be the Father of the Year, his death was just business. Yeah that`s a great explanation. Not. So it`s M`s fault they became a trash? Maybe it is a little but certainly not a whole. Besides, then every inhabitant of rich LA should be a trash, a slut and a drugey according to that explanation. As for Trevor`s advice...lol you can`t be serious right? He`s the last person who should even speak something about a thing like parenting. A f*cked up bisexual, an alcoholic, a meth user, a cannibal, a molester, a criminal and a guy who wear women`s dress...yeah that`s really someone who should give parenting advice. LOL Edited June 10, 2015 by MrDeSanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGTFan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Well no one said M and T aren't hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 The all 3 of them are hypocrites. Just like the rest of GTA protagonists so far. Because it can`t be other way. You can`t be a good guy in a bad men`s game without being a hypocrite at the times. Now i`m going to quote one of my best GTA quotations said by Jerry Martinez in VCS to Vic; "you know what your problem is Vic? You`re trying to be a good guy in a bad men`s game" And that could apply to every single GTA protagonist so far. True, Michael is my fav GTA protagonist, aside from Niko. But that doesn`t mean i don`t see him as a f*cking selfish hypocrite because he is one. I just like his "retired bank robber, living in rich area and lost in 80s movie fantasy" whole thing. That said, Franklin would probably be my fav out of the V trio if he wouldn`t be so underdeveloped and put in the game only to remind us on CJ. He is also a f*cking hypocrite, a cold heart killa who only cares about the money. That`s the way it is in GTA wolrd. Uncle Vlad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGTFan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 "Hypocrisy, Franklin, civilization greatest virtue." MrDeSanta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Hipster Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 "Hypocrisy, Franklin, civilization greatest virtue." Jesus your therapist has a lot to answer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGTFan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 "Hypocrisy, Franklin, civilization greatest virtue." Jesus your therapist has a lot to answer for.I know, I still hate myself... But hey, at least I know the words for it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeSanta Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) "Hypocrisy, Franklin, civilization greatest virtue." Jesus your therapist has a lot to answer for. No wonder Mike`s emotional health is in total sh*t if he has a therapist who only got 3 things to say during the session; 1. and what about your sexual problems Michael? 2. and that`s really all the time we`ve got 3. oh i forgot to mention, face to face sessions are a little more expensive Edited June 10, 2015 by MrDeSanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Hipster Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 "Hypocrisy, Franklin, civilization greatest virtue." Jesus your therapist has a lot to answer for.I know, I still hate myself... But hey, at least I know the words for it now. but I hate you and I know the words for it, does that mean I don't have to go to therapy? "Hypocrisy, Franklin, civilization greatest virtue." Jesus your therapist has a lot to answer for. No wonder Mike`s emotional health is in total sh*t if he has a therapist who only got 3 things to say during the session;1. and what about your sexual problems Michael? 2. and that`s really all the time we`ve got 3. oh i forgot to mention, face to face sessions are a little more expensive and not to mention all the sessions are only 5 minutes long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGTFan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) "Hypocrisy, Franklin, civilization greatest virtue." Jesus your therapist has a lot to answer for. No wonder Mike`s emotional health is in total sh*t if he has a therapist who only got 3 things to say during the session;1. and what about your sexual problems Michael? 2. and that`s really all the time we`ve got 3. oh i forgot to mention, face to face sessions are a little more expensiveHe just wanted Michael's money to date that young unseen girl, cause you know, therapist stands for "the rapist". @Thelema93 Look man, you motherf*cker terrify me of that middle age, I'm good. Edited June 10, 2015 by SuperGTFan Slax_Vice86 and MrDeSanta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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