Successful Studies in Destroying Cancer Cells

[Coin]

Yes, because the traffic conditions you experience personally are totally indicative of the world being overpopulated.

[sivispacem]

"I get stuck in traffic so the world must be overpopulated" said no sane person, ever.

[gtamann123]

Maybe not the world in general but the US is. 350 million is way too much for this country. We would be best off and not as crowded with a population around 100 million. Maybe then we wouldn't have 50 million people on food assistance. When you have the population of England on food stamps your country is seriously overpopulated for its GDP

Edited June 6, 2015 by gtamann123

[sivispacem]

350 million is way too much for this country.

The US as a country has one of the lowest population densities in the world, along with one of the highest GDPs per capita in both nominal and adjusted PPP.

 

The issues you've highlighted aren't caused by too many people, but too many stupid policies. Also, urbanisation, poor use of land and pathological laziness. If you're blaming decades of governmental and administrative failures in tackling poverty on overpopulation, I suggest you entirely reevaluate your understanding of the country in which you live.

[gtamann123]

 

350 million is way too much for this country.

The US as a country has one of the lowest population densities in the world, along with one of the highest GDPs per capita in both nominal and adjusted PPP.

 

The issues you've highlighted aren't caused by too many people, but too many stupid policies. Also, urbanisation, poor use of land and pathological laziness. If you're blaming decades of governmental and administrative failures in tackling poverty on overpopulation, I suggest you entirely reevaluate your understanding of the country in which you live.

The US us also near the top in average working hours per week but there just isn't enough wealth here to go around so wages have remained stagnant since the 70s. And when you adjust for inflation The rich aren't even as rich as they used to be. Guys like Carnegie and Rockefeller had fortunes north of $100 billion in current dollars. Only 1 American today even comes remotely close to that.

 

Our economy hasn't seen real tangible growth in decades but our population continues to climb at one of the highest rates in the western world.

 

Our GDP is alot higher than every European country but when you compare our standard of living to western Europe it's like comparing Detroit to Beverly Hills.

Edited June 6, 2015 by gtamann123

[Mr. Scratch]

So I guess Fincher won't be directing the U.S. version of Utopia after all... We'll just have to settle for our very own gtamann.

[Coin]

 

Our economy hasn't seen real tangible growth in decades but our population continues to climb at one of the highest rates in the western world.

 

 

 

Doesn't mean much all things considered.

 

[gtamann123]

So I guess Fincher won't be directing the U.S. version of Utopia after all... We'll just have to settle for our very own gtamann.

USA will never be a utopia like Europe. Our time has passed and it passed several decades ago. I blame it on a combination of Unions destroying our industries and having them sent overseas by continuing to demand rdiculous wages and benefits despite no real value to back it up. Lack of universal health care which has caused our public health to go sour beyond the point of no return. An unecessarily violent culture which has created a cloud of paranoia and fear that destroys basic human interaction on all levels. A government that doesn't represent or serve the people but just sells itself to the highest bidder. And our warhawk foreign policy which has destroyed our reputation abroad and ruined any hope for cooperation and partnerships with the developed countries of the world. Among thousands of other things.

Edited June 6, 2015 by gtamann123

[sivispacem]

Our GDP is alot higher than every European country but when you compare our standard of living to western Europe it's like comparing Detroit to Beverly Hills.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the number of people living there (sorry, but the implication that if you reduced the population to a third of the size there's be more wealth to go around is utterly laughable). And everything to do with seven decades of the staunchly right-wing US government not to mention large swathes of the citizenry, dismissing social programmes, universal healthcare and the welfare state as being "communist" and therefore evil.

 

If isn't as if the reasons for the shocking economic and social disparity in the US aren't plainly obvious. And, to reiterate, no they're not caused by there being too many people living there.

[gtamann123]

 

Our GDP is alot higher than every European country but when you compare our standard of living to western Europe it's like comparing Detroit to Beverly Hills.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the number of people living there (sorry, but the implication that if you reduced the population to a third of the size there's be more wealth to go around is utterly laughable). And everything to do with seven decades of the staunchly right-wing US government not to mention large swathes of the citizenry, dismissing social programmes, universal healthcare and the welfare state as being "communist" and therefore evil.

 

If isn't as if the reasons for the shocking economic and social disparity in the US aren't plainly obvious. And, to reiterate, no they're not caused by there being too many people living there.

And the real kicker is there would be no hope of people being able to immigrate out. Nobody wants American immigrants unless you are highly educated. Like seriously if I could immigrate to the UK I would clean sewers or work in a meat rendering plant. I wouldn't give a sh*t as long as I got to live in the UK. But only eastern European or African immigrants are allowed in for that kind of work. From what I have been told the only conceivable way an American could immigrate to anywhere in Europe would be if they had a PhD. Which again is impossible for someone like me because our education system is laughably overpriced. That also reminds of this girl I met. She left the UK to immigrate here 4 years ago. I seriously cannot fathom that. I can't wrap my head around why someone would make such a bad decision. That would be like someone saying "I was given a BMW M5 for free at birth but I think I'm going to abandon it and go through a bunch of sh*t and go and get an 01 Pontiac Aztek" Edited June 6, 2015 by gtamann123

[Coin]

I see gtamann's perception of other countries and the state they're in is still warped.

[sivispacem]

If you're vaguely skilled and come from a country that isn't usually on fire it's pretty easy to emigrate to the UK on a work visa.

 

You just need a Teir 4 licenced company to sponsor you to do it.

 

But yeah, this is very off topic.

[gtamann123]

If you're vaguely skilled and come from a country that isn't usually on fire it's pretty easy to emigrate to the UK on a work visa.

 

But yeah, this is very off topic.

The UK doesn't need electricians or mechanics according to the immigration website. So I couldn't get a Visa because those are my skillsets. And yeah I agree I'm sorry for dragging the thread so far off topic.

[Mr. Scratch]

Utopia is a t.v. show. It's about population control...

[TECHN9CiAN]

There will never be a cure for cancer, only treatments, unless the cure is one that can be dragged out for profit. Don't get your hopes up, people. Big pharma will never allow a real cure.

[Dingdongs]

 

So I guess Fincher won't be directing the U.S. version of Utopia after all... We'll just have to settle for our very own gtamann.

USA will never be a utopia like Europe. Our time has passed and it passed several decades ago. I blame it on a combination of Unions destroying our industries and having them sent overseas by continuing to demand rdiculous wages and benefits despite no real value to back it up. Lack of universal health care which has caused our public health to go sour beyond the point of no return. An unecessarily violent culture which has created a cloud of paranoia and fear that destroys basic human interaction on all levels. A government that doesn't represent or serve the people but just sells itself to the highest bidder. And our warhawk foreign policy which has destroyed our reputation abroad and ruined any hope for cooperation and partnerships with the developed countries of the world. Among thousands of other things.

Lolwut. You're an electrician and you think unions destroyed the economy? Ok bud

[Wormholes]

There's probably already something known that can kill cancer cells(aside from cbd/cbn) but we won't know about it until there's money to be made off it. Lots of people die from cancer every year. Those people make hospitals and pharma a sh*t load of money. Those corporations won't let those billions of dollars just be flushed down the toilet.

[Mr. Scratch]

Uh, there obviously is a sh*t ton of money to be made from something that can cure f*cking cancer. Take your tinfoil hat off.

[sivispacem]

Yeah, it's not like having a cure for it will make it stop existing. It isn't smallpox, it's...well, cancer.

[gtamann123]

 

 

So I guess Fincher won't be directing the U.S. version of Utopia after all... We'll just have to settle for our very own gtamann.

USA will never be a utopia like Europe. Our time has passed and it passed several decades ago. I blame it on a combination of Unions destroying our industries and having them sent overseas by continuing to demand rdiculous wages and benefits despite no real value to back it up. Lack of universal health care which has caused our public health to go sour beyond the point of no return. An unecessarily violent culture which has created a cloud of paranoia and fear that destroys basic human interaction on all levels. A government that doesn't represent or serve the people but just sells itself to the highest bidder. And our warhawk foreign policy which has destroyed our reputation abroad and ruined any hope for cooperation and partnerships with the developed countries of the world. Among thousands of other things.

Lolwut. You're an electrician and you think unions destroyed the economy? Ok budI'm a trained electrician but I don't work as an actual electrian because I'm not licensed and I couldn't be licensed because my training was on the job and not from an accredited school or union authprized apprecticeship. So I repair appliances and only make about $45k per year. So unions haven't benefited me really.

 

But this is way off topic anyways.

Edited June 6, 2015 by gtamann123

[Mr. Scratch]

Yeah, it's not like having a cure for it will make it stop existing. It isn't smallpox, it's...well, cancer.

 

I think a more appropriate comparison would be... diabetes, maybe?

[I cucked Alex Jones]

 

 

 

So I guess Fincher won't be directing the U.S. version of Utopia after all... We'll just have to settle for our very own gtamann.

USA will never be a utopia like Europe. Our time has passed and it passed several decades ago. I blame it on a combination of Unions destroying our industries and having them sent overseas by continuing to demand rdiculous wages and benefits despite no real value to back it up. Lack of universal health care which has caused our public health to go sour beyond the point of no return. An unecessarily violent culture which has created a cloud of paranoia and fear that destroys basic human interaction on all levels. A government that doesn't represent or serve the people but just sells itself to the highest bidder. And our warhawk foreign policy which has destroyed our reputation abroad and ruined any hope for cooperation and partnerships with the developed countries of the world. Among thousands of other things.

Lolwut. You're an electrician and you think unions destroyed the economy? Ok bud

I'm a trained electrician but I don't work as an actual electrian because I'm not licensed and I couldn't be licensed because my training was on the job and not from an accredited school or union authprized apprecticeship. So I repair appliances and only make about $45k per year. So unions haven't benefited me really.

 

But this is way off topic anyways.

 

So your an unlicensed, non-union electrician under the age of 30 making 45K a year? Are you the go they guy they have sticking forks into the outlets to see if they work?

[Clem Fandango]

 

 

 

So I guess Fincher won't be directing the U.S. version of Utopia after all... We'll just have to settle for our very own gtamann.

USA will never be a utopia like Europe. Our time has passed and it passed several decades ago. I blame it on a combination of Unions destroying our industries and having them sent overseas by continuing to demand rdiculous wages and benefits despite no real value to back it up. Lack of universal health care which has caused our public health to go sour beyond the point of no return. An unecessarily violent culture which has created a cloud of paranoia and fear that destroys basic human interaction on all levels. A government that doesn't represent or serve the people but just sells itself to the highest bidder. And our warhawk foreign policy which has destroyed our reputation abroad and ruined any hope for cooperation and partnerships with the developed countries of the world. Among thousands of other things.

Lolwut. You're an electrician and you think unions destroyed the economy? Ok bud

I'm a trained electrician but I don't work as an actual electrian because I'm not licensed and I couldn't be licensed because my training was on the job and not from an accredited school or union authprized apprecticeship. So I repair appliances and only make about $45k per year. So unions haven't benefited me really.

 

But this is way off topic anyways.

 

Unions are the only reason you don't work twelve hour days in a mine making 5c an hour, get your head out of your arse.

[Finn 7 five 11]

Maybe not the world in general but the US is. 350 million is way too much for this country. We would be best off and not as crowded with a population around 100 million. Maybe then we wouldn't have 50 million people on food assistance. When you have the population of England on food stamps your country is seriously overpopulated for its GDP

 

Well if you only had one third of the people, you'd have one third of the industry, one third of tax revenue ect. and you would have one third of the people on food assistance. It's all relative.

 

Doesn't matter what we do, there will always be people the top, people at the bottom, smart people and dumb people, people who want to work and people who want to not work and smoke crack all day.

Yes there is a million things that could improve the ratios greatly, and being reasonably progressive I am sure that eventually the ratios will improve.

But magically cutting population won't do that.

 

Also doesn't having the richest people not being as rich mean that we are getting better wage equality? Plus the super-wealthy are far more inclined to donate to charity these days because they're in the public eye, and culture has changed a lot, Bill gates would probably be richer than those guys you mentioned, but he donates a very large amount of his fortune to charity, and so do other large money people.

[Clem Fandango]

Doesn't matter what we do, there will always be people the top, people at the bottom, smart people and dumb people, people who want to work and people who want to not work and smoke crack all day.

 

This is entirely wrong. Top and bottom, dumb and smart, are artificial constructions.

[sivispacem]

I don't think intelligence is an artificial construct. It's certainly a product of other social conditions but it's not really artificial.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

Doesn't matter what we do, there will always be people the top, people at the bottom, smart people and dumb people, people who want to work and people who want to not work and smoke crack all day.

 

This is entirely wrong. Top and bottom, dumb and smart, are artificial constructions.

 

Perhaps largely, however perhaps instincts play a role in needing a hierarchy?