kk9fan97 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 OP you are just butt hurt, there is no problem with passive mode, People can use it as they will, theres no law saying you HAVE to be able to kill them if they kill you first, grow up Lol what a piss poor argument, course glitchers and exploiters have the IQ of a shovel and dumb as a bag of hammers so there is no surprise there. If there is "nothing" wrong with it than why do other games have mechanics in place to make it impossible for players to abuse the system in the first place? You definitely come off as one of those chicken sh*ts who like to kill other players yet not be killed yourself, if anyone must do some growing up its you ya little nooblet. Everyone can also hack the game if they so choose, it does not make it any less wrong. Exploiting oversights in the game mechanics to cover ones ass and stack things against the players around you is wrong no matter what color you paint it. If there was nothing truly wrong with it you could have formed a constructive, solid argument to back up your opinions, but you can't. So you resort to ad hominems because thats all you got to throw at me. I think you find my arguments and opinions so threatening cause its the equivalent of me pointing a gun at the head of your golden goose. lol the kid crying cause someone killed him first is trying to say someone else has a bad argument OP you are just butt hurt, there is no problem with passive mode, People can use it as they will, theres no law saying you HAVE to be able to kill them if they kill you first, grow up so you would not be mad if someone in passive mode came up, popped out of passive, killed you and then by the time you respawn they are again hiding in passive mode, and then have them do the same exact thing again? so what? its a game, people can play it how they want. its not your right to kill them in return no but the person doing it, is as big of a whimp as they come in this game, even the idiots that hide in fighter jets and blow the servers up are not that big of whimps. it's also called exploiting the system, and passive mode is easily the most exploited system in the game by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjortis Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 R* should make lobbys where PvP is turned off. Similar to what it's like in missons. You can get your guns out, fight the police, NPC's, slam your car or whatever, but you can't engage in combat with other players. Would make it a lot easier to do decent meetups and/or cruises then. Passive mode griefers like you're on about here are the worst. Those are the people that just take their k/d way to seriously and commit suicide if you take a slight damage on them and takes advantage of the poor passive mode system and alle other faults this game has. I feel like a "passive lobby" if you can call it that would be a good solution for people who wants to play this game without having to watch their backs all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) OP you are just butt hurt, there is no problem with passive mode, People can use it as they will, theres no law saying you HAVE to be able to kill them if they kill you first, grow up Lol what a piss poor argument, course glitchers and exploiters have the IQ of a shovel and dumb as a bag of hammers so there is no surprise there. If there is "nothing" wrong with it than why do other games have mechanics in place to make it impossible for players to abuse the system in the first place? You definitely come off as one of those chicken sh*ts who like to kill other players yet not be killed yourself, if anyone must do some growing up its you ya little nooblet. Everyone can also hack the game if they so choose, it does not make it any less wrong. Exploiting oversights in the game mechanics to cover ones ass and stack things against the players around you is wrong no matter what color you paint it. If there was nothing truly wrong with it you could have formed a constructive, solid argument to back up your opinions, but you can't. So you resort to ad hominems because thats all you got to throw at me. I think you find my arguments and opinions so threatening cause its the equivalent of me pointing a gun at the head of your golden goose. lol the kid crying cause someone killed him first is trying to say someone else has a bad argument OP you are just butt hurt, there is no problem with passive mode, People can use it as they will, theres no law saying you HAVE to be able to kill them if they kill you first, grow up so you would not be mad if someone in passive mode came up, popped out of passive, killed you and then by the time you respawn they are again hiding in passive mode, and then have them do the same exact thing again? so what? its a game, people can play it how they want. its not your right to kill them in return Defending an exploit is a bad argument, especially since you aren't even offering any valid points. Course I have to admit abusing exploits is a hard thing to justify so I understand its not easy. If your argument consists of nothing but ad hominems, its a bad argument, plain and simple. You attack the guy raising the points cause you cannot refute the points they are making, its a common cop out used by those who know they're wrong but refuse to admit it. Using your logic people should also hack the game freely cause "people can play how they want", course like I said you're one of those cheap exploiters trying to stop your golden goose from getting shot so that makes everything you say invalid right then and there. Edited June 7, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Horrible idea. Total ruins the fun of killing people then going into passive mode while taunting them on the mic and/or in private messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Horrible idea. Total ruins the fun of killing people then going into passive mode while taunting them on the mic and/or in private messages. Oh boo hoo you would no longer be able to abuse passive when the shoe is on the other foot and about to get your butt kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourticae Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 They could add friendly lobbies, and then remove passive. Boom! Everybody gets what they want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 They could add friendly lobbies, and then remove passive. Boom! Everybody gets what they want! They gave players friends only and solo sessions specifically for this reason. JC Hammer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger311 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I use passive mode when I get out of my apartment, when going into any store or LSC, or when going to places where other people are when I need to get a Pegasus vehicle. Also, immediately after claiming a bounty, so I can safely bank the cash before they send a mugger to steal it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 I use passive mode when I get out of my apartment, when going into any store or LSC, or when going to places where other people are when I need to get a Pegasus vehicle. Also, immediately after claiming a bounty, so I can safely bank the cash before they send a mugger to steal it back. You do know you can easily do that through your phone, it only takes like 5 seconds to do, passive is not necessary to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Hammer Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 We need more lobby options rockstar. its what the people want. I agree . I want a lobby for people that actually play the game instead of wasting time in lobby wars. We need to be separated from the kids. I want to see a 21 and up lobby Got to be the most repeated thread in GTAF Invite only, and change passive so you can only go in and out in your apartment.... fixed Again this treats the symptoms but not the actual disease, you're only running away from the problem. Its smarter to actually fix the source of the problem wouldn't you think? Well the root cause of the problem is there is a whole generation that seems to derive pleasure from ruining others fun. So much so that they've invented a term for it. Since I can't euthanize a whole generation, I think my solution gets as close to root cause as possible. For the whiners crying for GTA 4 lobby options you got invite only where you can set your own rules. GTA 4 was p2p game so server config was just a line of code, multiple lobby options now creates thousands of server permutations that R* isnt going to give you, so please stop crying for them or fire up GTA 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geefiasco Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) If I'm in Passive before I begin a Heist, once completed, I am still in Passive but every other player is 'solid'. I can run them down and ram their cars. They can run me over too, but I cannot be hit by bullets, whether I'm inside or outside a vehicle. I like to play around with it sometimes for the 'lolz', it makes them think I've 'hacked' because I cannot be killed! Edited June 9, 2015 by Geefiasco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourticae Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 They could add friendly lobbies, and then remove passive. Boom! Everybody gets what they want! They gave players friends only and solo sessions specifically for this reason. I enjoy meeting people too, friendly lobbies make it possible to do so without being shot at, whereas the two options you've provided only cut a person off from the potential of meeting new friends without getting maimed horribly.....unless passive mode stays in. If you're unwilling to compromise on an exchange, then there's really no reason to give in at all - passive will remain as long as friendly lobbies are not added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayB_ThrowaStack Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Passive is fine as it is. I have a 7.5 KD and I die a lot. I dont care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEEZYR Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Passive is perfect, people sucking and crying when they get killed is the problem. Verstappen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger311 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I use passive mode when I get out of my apartment, when going into any store or LSC, or when going to places where other people are when I need to get a Pegasus vehicle. Also, immediately after claiming a bounty, so I can safely bank the cash before they send a mugger to steal it back. You do know you can easily do that through your phone, it only takes like 5 seconds to do, passive is not necessary to do that. Yeah, but five seconds is a long time when five people are less than a mile away, and you just pissed one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWEMichaelB Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Get rid of passive mode. Don't want to die? Go to private session simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender_Sai Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Why do we need passive mode at all? To enjoy the views? There are invite-only sessions for this. If I want no player interaction, I just make one. If you do want to see other players in freeroam (that is to fight them, because there is no other way of interacting really), then why that passive mode is there at all? Because people with very, very tiny penises need to hack to compensate for their comprehensive lack of skill. Passive mode impedes that (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuqOutTheWay Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The simple solution is passive mode only lobbys and hardcore no passive lobby's l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Hammer Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... 1. Been here longer than you and 80 ranks higher than you 2. Yeah completely disregard my explanation on exactly how its an easy fix and ignoring my entire argument in general Just like a few others you are just running away from the problem instead of addressing it. A bug, glitch, or exploit is not gonna fix itself and its most certainly not going anywhere if you're just gonna run away from it. When has it become common place for people to just run into and hurdle in a corner covering their ears instead of facing the source of the problem head on? People like you are the Simbas of the gaming community, you don't try to address and fix the issues, you prefer to run away from them to your solo and friends only sessions and sing Hakuna Matata. Edited June 10, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 I use passive mode when I get out of my apartment, when going into any store or LSC, or when going to places where other people are when I need to get a Pegasus vehicle. Also, immediately after claiming a bounty, so I can safely bank the cash before they send a mugger to steal it back. You do know you can easily do that through your phone, it only takes like 5 seconds to do, passive is not necessary to do that. Yeah, but five seconds is a long time when five people are less than a mile away, and you just pissed one off. Which is why I don't do the transaction right next to someone, I go a good distance away from the scene and then do the transaction. Dagger311 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger311 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I use passive mode when I get out of my apartment, when going into any store or LSC, or when going to places where other people are when I need to get a Pegasus vehicle. Also, immediately after claiming a bounty, so I can safely bank the cash before they send a mugger to steal it back. You do know you can easily do that through your phone, it only takes like 5 seconds to do, passive is not necessary to do that. Yeah, but five seconds is a long time when five people are less than a mile away, and you just pissed one off. Which is why I don't do the transaction right next to someone, I go a good distance away from the scene and then do the transaction. Call me paranoid then, but I'd rather not risk someone deciding they want to give chase or send a mugger while I'm running. I prefer to go passive, bank it at the scene, disable it, and use those ten seconds to fly off on my bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourticae Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... 1. Been here longer than you and 80 ranks higher than you 2. Yeah completely disregard my explanation on exactly how its an easy fix and ignoring my entire argument in general Just like a few others you are just running away from the problem instead of addressing it. A bug, glitch, or exploit is not gonna fix itself and its most certainly not going anywhere if you're just gonna run away from it. When has it become common place for people to just run into and hurdle in a corner covering their ears instead of facing the source of the problem head on? People like you are the Simbas of the gaming community, you don't try to address and fix the issues, you prefer to run away from them to your solo and friends only sessions and sing Hakuna Matata. Unfortunately, Hammer has it right. You could be here for thirty years more than him, but it doesn't make your solution a solution at all, given that it detracts from what passive offers players - a means to find and interact with potentially new friends on less than hostile terms. Your 'solution' demands that they sacrifice such an opportunity purely for your own personal benefit, which serves only to create the division that guarantees nothing about passive mode changes. Quite a great many people who use passive mode want a friendly-play lobby, which could easily be made possible using the same parameters that make free-aim lobbies possible. Give them that, and suddenly you've got a wealth of support for the removal of passive mode on traditional (your) lobbies. Deny them that, and you've got just as many, if not more voices against your opinion.... So yeah, your solution really isn't so much simple, unless you go into the amount of time that went into thinking about it. If that sort of effort goes into all your plans, I'd suggest you stay out of any profession that might require you to be a responsible adult. Edited June 11, 2015 by Mourticae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Hammer Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... 1. Been here longer than you and 80 ranks higher than you 2. Yeah completely disregard my explanation on exactly how its an easy fix and ignoring my entire argument in general Just like a few others you are just running away from the problem instead of addressing it. A bug, glitch, or exploit is not gonna fix itself and its most certainly not going anywhere if you're just gonna run away from it. When has it become common place for people to just run into and hurdle in a corner covering their ears instead of facing the source of the problem head on? People like you are the Simbas of the gaming community, you don't try to address and fix the issues, you prefer to run away from them to your solo and friends only sessions and sing Hakuna Matata. Dear level 415 If you've been here longer than me than certainly you've read the 100 explanations detailing the differences in a peer to peer game (GTA 4) and an authoritative server game (GTA 5) which makes the addition of a multiple lobbies prohibitive and the significant impact to scalability that they would have on GTA 5 and BTW, my solution to fix passive is to limit going in and out to your apartment, no cooldown needed Edited June 11, 2015 by TheHammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEEZYR Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Passive mode will never go, fact. end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourticae Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... 1. Been here longer than you and 80 ranks higher than you 2. Yeah completely disregard my explanation on exactly how its an easy fix and ignoring my entire argument in general Just like a few others you are just running away from the problem instead of addressing it. A bug, glitch, or exploit is not gonna fix itself and its most certainly not going anywhere if you're just gonna run away from it. When has it become common place for people to just run into and hurdle in a corner covering their ears instead of facing the source of the problem head on? People like you are the Simbas of the gaming community, you don't try to address and fix the issues, you prefer to run away from them to your solo and friends only sessions and sing Hakuna Matata. Dear level 415 If you've been here longer than me than certainly you've read the 100 explanations detailing the differences in a peer to peer game (GTA 4) and an authoritative server game (GTA 5) which makes the addition of a multiple lobbies prohibitive and the significant impact to scalability that they would have on GTA 5 and BTW, my solution to fix passive is to limit going in and out to your apartment, no cooldown needed We've got what could be a decent amount of free-aim lobbies that aren't being used any longer - swipe up a few of those, turn off friendly fire settings and boom, everybody gets what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... 1. Been here longer than you and 80 ranks higher than you 2. Yeah completely disregard my explanation on exactly how its an easy fix and ignoring my entire argument in general Just like a few others you are just running away from the problem instead of addressing it. A bug, glitch, or exploit is not gonna fix itself and its most certainly not going anywhere if you're just gonna run away from it. When has it become common place for people to just run into and hurdle in a corner covering their ears instead of facing the source of the problem head on? People like you are the Simbas of the gaming community, you don't try to address and fix the issues, you prefer to run away from them to your solo and friends only sessions and sing Hakuna Matata. Dear level 415 If you've been here longer than me than certainly you've read the 100 explanations detailing the differences in a peer to peer game (GTA 4) and an authoritative server game (GTA 5) which makes the addition of a multiple lobbies prohibitive and the significant impact to scalability that they would have on GTA 5 and BTW, my solution to fix passive is to limit going in and out to your apartment, no cooldown needed How does apartments even relate to this at all? Passive can be used any time anywhere, and its most used when someone kills someone but not wanting to face the ass kicking they were gonna get from the player they provoked. Passive mode is only meant to be used when the player just wants to do something without being bothered by other players, but instead is used as a cop out when players don't want to face the justified retaliation from those they kill. Either that or they use it when at their most vulnerable. They go kill a bunch of players in a tank, jet, or insurgent and when that tank, jet, or Insurgent is destroyed they go passive to avoided getting the sh*t kicked out of them from all the players they pissed off, get in another tank, jet, or Insurgent and just repeats the process all over again. Edited June 12, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEEZYR Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... 1. Been here longer than you and 80 ranks higher than you 2. Yeah completely disregard my explanation on exactly how its an easy fix and ignoring my entire argument in general Just like a few others you are just running away from the problem instead of addressing it. A bug, glitch, or exploit is not gonna fix itself and its most certainly not going anywhere if you're just gonna run away from it. When has it become common place for people to just run into and hurdle in a corner covering their ears instead of facing the source of the problem head on? People like you are the Simbas of the gaming community, you don't try to address and fix the issues, you prefer to run away from them to your solo and friends only sessions and sing Hakuna Matata. Dear level 415 If you've been here longer than me than certainly you've read the 100 explanations detailing the differences in a peer to peer game (GTA 4) and an authoritative server game (GTA 5) which makes the addition of a multiple lobbies prohibitive and the significant impact to scalability that they would have on GTA 5 and BTW, my solution to fix passive is to limit going in and out to your apartment, no cooldown needed . Passive mode is only meant to be used when the player just wants to do something without being bothered by other players, but instead is used as a cop out when players don't want to face the justified retaliation from those they kill. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read, going into passive to stop you killing them is the player stopping you from bothering them, grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LahTigre Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 OP Is proposing another cool down to a forum that's already complaining about cool down timers. Seriously?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) OP Is proposing another cool down to a forum that's already complaining about cool down timers. Seriously?! Well would you rather have people abusing passive mode to get an advantage over you? I'd prefer forbidding the use of passive with a cooldown after killing a player. Don't want the cooldown then simply don't kill players. If you got a better idea to end this passive mode abuse then lets hear it. Additionally those who don't abuse it should not even care since it does not even affect them, so what does that make you? Maybe your new here but the reason why you have invite only instead of the customized GTA4 lobbys has been explained a hundred times It's not a simple solution at all..... 1. Been here longer than you and 80 ranks higher than you 2. Yeah completely disregard my explanation on exactly how its an easy fix and ignoring my entire argument in general Just like a few others you are just running away from the problem instead of addressing it. A bug, glitch, or exploit is not gonna fix itself and its most certainly not going anywhere if you're just gonna run away from it. When has it become common place for people to just run into and hurdle in a corner covering their ears instead of facing the source of the problem head on? People like you are the Simbas of the gaming community, you don't try to address and fix the issues, you prefer to run away from them to your solo and friends only sessions and sing Hakuna Matata. Dear level 415 If you've been here longer than me than certainly you've read the 100 explanations detailing the differences in a peer to peer game (GTA 4) and an authoritative server game (GTA 5) which makes the addition of a multiple lobbies prohibitive and the significant impact to scalability that they would have on GTA 5 and BTW, my solution to fix passive is to limit going in and out to your apartment, no cooldown needed . Passive mode is only meant to be used when the player just wants to do something without being bothered by other players, but instead is used as a cop out when players don't want to face the justified retaliation from those they kill. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read, going into passive to stop you killing them is the player stopping you from bothering them, grow up Ad honinems, excellent arguement. So someone killing a bunch of people in a tank, eventually gets blown up, goes passive, gets into another tank and turns it off. That is not abuse of an exploit to you? I cannot even begin to count all the players I seen doing just that. Why is it that many games with PvP in open worlds, which are mostly MMORPGS, why do they not let you immediately make yourself unkillable after attacking a player hmm? Edited June 13, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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