Popular U.S Reality Show Star Accused Of Child Molestation

[K20]

seriiously messed up. hang him by the balls!!!

Edited May 26, 2015 by K20

[MyName'sJeff]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the parents actually say they taught him right and wrong AFTER he committed such a dirty atrocity?

[universetwisters]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the parents actually say they taught him right and wrong AFTER he committed such a dirty atrocity?

With having 19 something kids, it's pretty hard to sit down one on one with them and discuss sh*t like that.

 

But in China, where you can only have one kid, they're the most morally correct people in the world.

[Ai®a©ob®a]

To add what Moth posted...Lessons From Moral Failures in a Family from that thing he posted...

 

It's a story about a boy who molested his sisters and how it wasn't his fault but his sisters fault because he had to change their diaper allowing him to see their vagina's which lead to "impure thoughs"

 

This was written by the director of the by the Advanced Training Institute (ATI) which is what the Duggers use for their homeschooling.

 

Some guidelines on how to keep boys from molesting their sisters...

 

Do not tolerate laziness by any child, Plan a full day's schedule
Do not allow boys to change diapers especally of baby sisters
Insist on modesty at all times
Pray for protection from porn, Prepare them to resist it by reading the bible

Edited May 28, 2015 by Troubadour

[Beautiful Disaster]

This whole family is a f*cking disgusting mess. Thank god he went to christian rehabilitation and is now an upstanding member of society

[dudclub55]

This whole family is a f*cking disgusting mess. Thank god he went to christian rehabilitation and is now an upstanding member of society

 

Is that sarcasm? If anything I'm pretty sure 'Christian' rehabilitation will actually make him a worse person in the long run..

 

Sort of off-topic but also sort of on-topic: I think we as a society need to change our perception of pedophiles, at least the ones who are actively trying NOT to molest children. A lot of people have this bleak perception of pedophiles, that they should all die, burn, etc. Pedophilia is not a choice as much it as a fault in the wiring of the brain.

Edited May 28, 2015 by TeleportUppercutSpam

[Beautiful Disaster]

Yes, it was very much sarcasm.

 

I legitimately feel for pedophiles. Specifically the ones that live with it and never act upon it (which is the majority) It is a mental issue. No one grows up hoping they have the desire to molest children. It's a horrible realization to have to live with. No one cares about them, they are the most vile human beings on the planet. There are many doctors that want to devote their lives to studying, pin pointing, and treating this specific part of the brain that causes this defect... but can't because there is simply no one, no program that is willing to fund this particular form of research.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Beautiful Disaster

[universetwisters]

...but can't because there is simply no one, no program that is willing to fund this particular form of research.

This for real? You'd expect there to be more funding for curing pedophilia if that was true, state grants and all that sh*t.

[Ai®a©ob®a]

 

This whole family is a f*cking disgusting mess. Thank god he went to christian rehabilitation and is now an upstanding member of society

 

Is that sarcasm? If anything I'm pretty sure 'Christian' rehabilitation will actually make him a worse person in the long run..

 

Sort of off-topic but also sort of on-topic: I think we as a society need to change our perception of pedophiles, at least the ones who are actively trying NOT to molest children. A lot of people have this bleak perception of pedophiles, that they should all die, burn, etc. Pedophilia is not a choice as much it as a fault in the wiring of the brain.

 

 

 

Yes, it was very much sarcasm.

 

I legitimately feel for pedophiles. Specifically the ones that live with it and never act upon it (which is the majority) It is a mental issue. No one grows up hoping they have the desire to molest children. It's a horrible realization to have to live with. No one cares about them, they are the most vile human beings on the planet. There are many doctors that want to devote their lives to studying, pin pointing, and treating this specific part of the brain that causes this defect... but can't because there is simply no one, no program that is willing to fund this particular form of research.

Check out this thread in the Debate section

[dudclub55]

Yes, it was very much sarcasm.

 

I legitimately feel for pedophiles. Specifically the ones that live with it and never act upon it (which is the majority) It is a mental issue. No one grows up hoping they have the desire to molest children. It's a horrible realization to have to live with. No one cares about them, they are the most vile human beings on the planet. There are many doctors that want to devote their lives to studying, pin pointing, and treating this specific part of the brain that causes this defect... but can't because there is simply no one, no program that is willing to fund this particular form of research.

 

Scientists do actually have the general idea on what causes pedophilia. It's the result of cross wiring within the regions of the brain that are responsible for the instinct to nurture, and the regions of the brain responsible for well.. wanting to f*ck. Pretty much the general idea on what causes fetishes too.

[a20characterusername]

This for real? You'd expect there to be more funding for curing pedophilia if that was true, state grants and all that sh*t.

If simply being a pedophile, (regardless of 'acting' on it) is a choice as some people believe, then how could people go about curing it?

 

And let's say it could be cured; what would the implications be in regard to other abnormal sexual attractions/behavior?

[Beautiful Disaster]

I just said? By sending them to christian rehabilitation? While you're there, you could always swing by a pray the gay away seminar too. I hear they're really effective.

 

What constitutes ábnormal' in a sexual sense? I'm willing to bet that 90% of the people on this forum (and society in general) have at least one kink that could be classified as abnormal.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Beautiful Disaster

[a20characterusername]

 

 

What constitutes an 'ábnormal' sexual attraction? I'm willing to bet that 90% of the people on this forum (and society in general) have at least one kink that could be classified as abnormal.

And that's what it boils down to, and what I'm getting at. If something that's nearly universally despised as pedophilia can be cured, then why not other unpopular/rare 'abnormalities'? What would the implications be, where is the line?

 

For me, the line of acceptance gets drawn at consent, and I don't believe prepubescent children can consent. Not just legally, but biologically as well.

Edited May 28, 2015 by a20characterusername

[Beautiful Disaster]

I understand what you're saying, but the difference is, I think that the majority of the planet can agree (pedophiles included) that having sex with children is WRONG. Whereas whips and handcuffs, dressing like a porcupine, and bouncing on balloons -albeit, abnormal to some- isn't such a huge issue.

[a20characterusername]

I understand what you're saying, but the difference is, I think that the majority of the planet can agree (pedophiles included) that having sex with children is WRONG. Whereas whips and handcuffs, dressing like a porcupine, and bouncing on balloons -albeit, abnormal to some- isn't such a huge issue.

I'm not talking about whether something is viewed as right or wrong, but whether something can, or even should be 'corrected' if we were born a certain way.

[Coin]

 

This for real? You'd expect there to be more funding for curing pedophilia if that was true, state grants and all that sh*t.

 

 

In a way, I'm glad that there isn't. I confess that I am uncomfortable with the notion of curing someone of <insert undesirable thing here>, for the implications beyond just pedophilia. I mean, it's 2015 and there are still quite a large percentage of people who view homosexuality as something bad and that should be cured etc etc.

 

There has to be another solution.

Edited May 28, 2015 by ¥en

[Beautiful Disaster]

I don't even understand your point? People are born with conditions (both mental and physical) that drastically effect their lives and QUALITY of life every day. We shouldn't medicate a schizophrenic? Being a pedophile isn't sexual kink, it's a very real, very crippling mental disorder, and if it can be treated or helped, then it ABSOLUTELY should be.

[a20characterusername]

I don't even understand your point? People are born with conditions (both mental and physical) that drastically effect their lives and QUALITY of life every day. We shouldn't medicate a schizophrenic? Being a pedophile isn't sexual kink, it's a very real, very crippling mental disorder, and if it can be treated or helped, then it ABSOLUTELY should be.

What Yen posted above is pretty much my point. Many people view homosexuality and gender dysphoria as mental disorders too. What would the implications be if we found out they could simply be cured, just like pedophilia?

 

E: To clarify, I'm all for curbing/treating pedophilia, I'm just asking how far it should extend to.

Edited May 28, 2015 by a20characterusername

[Beautiful Disaster]

Again. I understand what you're saying... violent criminals are put in prison to stop them from committing violent crimes, schizophrenics, bi-polar, and manic depressives are given medication to stop them from hurting themselves or others, if pedophiles can be given treatment to stop them from raping or hurting children, we should be f*cking funding it. Bottom line.

 

There is a vast difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. There needs to be an option for these people to be able to go to a doctor, and receive some help. For themselves, but more importantly for my beautiful 3 year old boy.

[dudclub55]

 

I don't even understand your point? People are born with conditions (both mental and physical) that drastically effect their lives and QUALITY of life every day. We shouldn't medicate a schizophrenic? Being a pedophile isn't sexual kink, it's a very real, very crippling mental disorder, and if it can be treated or helped, then it ABSOLUTELY should be.

What Yen posted above is pretty much my point. Many people view homosexuality and gender dysphoria as mental disorders too. What would the implications be if we found out they could simply be cured, just like pedophilia?

 

E: To clarify, I'm all for curbing/treating pedophilia, I'm just asking how far it should extend to.

 

 

Homosexuality and gender identity disorders don't make you want to have sex with children, whom as you mentioned, are just plain incapable of consenting or in general make good decisions thanks to their poorly developed brains.

..unless you're those two things AND a pedophile, of course.

[a20characterusername]

I don't think EITHER of you understand my point. Like, at all.

 

Pretty sure Yen is the only one who understood what I was trying to say.

Edited May 28, 2015 by a20characterusername

[Beautiful Disaster]

No, I do understand. I just don't agree with it.

[Coin]

I don't even understand your point? People are born with conditions (both mental and physical) that drastically effect their lives and QUALITY of life every day. We shouldn't medicate a schizophrenic? Being a pedophile isn't sexual kink, it's a very real, very crippling mental disorder, and if it can be treated or helped, then it ABSOLUTELY should be.

 

Schizophrenia and pedophilia aren't comparable at all.

 

Unless you're asserting that being sexually attracted children somehow makes an individual less able to control their urges over someone who is attracted to the norm, or anything else outside of the norm.

 

Cure aside, I think society as a whole could be doing a lot more to help and support such individuals.

[Beautiful Disaster]

I meant that they are comparable in the sense that we treat these individuals so that they're less likely to do harm. If there is a way to do this for pedophiles, we should be doing it.

[a20characterusername]

I meant that they are comparable in the sense that we treat these individuals so that they're less likely to do harm. If there is a way to do this for pedophiles, we should be doing it.

Agreed, but again, that WILL have implications as far as how sexuality is viewed as a whole. You can disagree, but pedophilia doesn't exist in a vacuum.

[Spaghetti Cat]

I remember when TLC used to have interesting programing about science and sh*t. Now it's all reality programing.

[Beautiful Disaster]

About racists and pedophiles. Good game, TLC.

[Kirsty]

I hate it when homosexuality is brought into the topic of paedophilia, it is not comparable in the slightest. Neither are mental illnesses for that matter, because (in general) those with them aren't criminals; you treat them for their own wellbeing, not for the sake of others even if they can be affected.

However, I can see the "reasoning" of a vast and worrying amount of people if such a thing (treatment) existed: if you can cure a man from getting an erection looking at a child, then you can cure a man from getting an erection from looking at another man. We aren't all blessed with openmindednesses, these "cures" you talk of would be a disaster for pushing for equality in the places where it is lacking or doesn't exist.

[Beautiful Disaster]

Pedophilia IS a mental illness... and, as I said before, a generally small amount of pedophiles actually ACT on it. You're not a criminal for thinking or desiring. And they absolutely prescribe medication to protect an individual from others as well as themselves?

 

I understand all of these points, and how much should we be playing god and this and that.... I'm saying that there should be an option for these individuals to go somewhere and get help. Just like there is for most others suffering with a mental issues. But people don't want to help, they don't want to look a confessed pedophile in the face, whether they have committed any crimes or not. We want to drive them all off of a cliff and wash our hands clean of it all.

[Kirsty]

I don't think anyone is disputing that a world without paedophiles would be a better one. It's just that when you come at it from the "cure" angle, there are people that would use that to spread their own message of hate because there are people that genuinely believe paedophilia is a sexuality and comparable to being gay, both immoral and both unnatural. There would be kids forced to take it if it became openly available. Of course I am absolutely not suggesting that it's better to stay as we are and just forget about molestation of children, but it is a sensitive subject because it so wrong, compared to other mental illnesses that are not.

 

I haven't read much of this topic but I just read up a bit, and I do understand your point of research into such a condition being swept under the rug because of the taboo. Even if funded, if there was someone genuinely hating themselves for feeling such thoughts and went to their doctor, treatment probably doesn't exist outside of non-medical things like counselling or cognitive behaviour therapy just to stop them doing the "act". Could we ever trust someone, even if he sought out treatment, to be around children? The thoughts might always be there, but do we only judge them on the act? Are the thoughts OK if they don't give into their condition?

 

Not necessarily directing these questions at anyone, just typing out loud.