The Pacific Standard Job

[canning_s]

Hi,

 

I have completed the The Pacific Standard Job heist finale with a crew of players where one of the players had an apartment nearby with an armored car to finish the heist.

 

Can someone please tell me the name of this apartment and the cost?

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited May 23, 2015 by canning_s

[stanky77]

604 laguna Blvd, like a little over 100k

[E•MO•TION]

604 laguna Blvd, like a little over 100k

$126K

 

[canning_s]

Thank you.

 

What is the process when doing the heist to use the armored car? Is the process different than following the in game display help text?

[JoeFury1997]

Thank you.

 

What is the process when doing the heist to use the armored car? Is the process different than following the in game display help text?

Just make sure the car is in the garage and then drive the bikes to the door and enter on foot. I think if your crew is next to you there is an option to bring them into your apartment too. Then just get in the car and drive.

[canning_s]

If I have two apartments (I already own one), will my armored car be in both garages?

Edited May 23, 2015 by canning_s

[StangOne50]

If I have two apartments (I already own one), will my armored car be in both garages?

You car will be in the garage you put it in. So put it in the garage you want before you start the mission.

[RogerWho]

And make sure not to drive the car at the beginning of the mission.

 

Anyway the cops presence may very well ruin your chance to get to your car so it's not 100% reliable. Personally I wouldn't (and don't) bother and either just drive to my apartments in Alta or Eclipse, or just use the cop car or riot van conveniently parked nearby.

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

This may sound obvious but don't drive the car to the jump, go straight to the boat by taking a left before the final bridge, put a waypoint on the boat if it helps, if you drive to the jump not only will you struggle to parachute it can fail you (I've been with randumbs who have done this.......twice)

 

I find this method to be deeply flawed and counter productive, it does work most of the time if done right, but it can be inconsistent at best and forces you to deal with more cops when getting in the garage / car and getting out at the boat with the cops still on you,

 

This goes double for the riot van too with this you have to deal with more, better armed cops and choppers. Neither method guarantees a good take and can still prove fatal

 

Try this route its very easy and you can practice in free roam

 

 

 

 

It's practically cop free see the guide for full breakdown and video link in sig

 

 

Edited May 24, 2015 by Ezekeil2Ofive17

[MPM]

It's very easy with kuruma. Also in bank only one guy takes money and he waits in bank a bit while others clear the cops outside. Then run to the passage and go right, jump over walls and go to bikes. No need to fight cops much. Rest is easy.

[Verstappen]

I don't agree with your number 5, Gone off road there once and got shot dead when I turned onto the road again...

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

I don't agree with your number 5, Gone off road there once and got shot dead when I turned onto the road again...

 

You drive straight up, stop, take out the 2 cops at the tunnel entrance, the ones that are always in the same place and carry on (which I mentioned just not here)

 

A well placed sticky bomb will clear them as well as blocking the bridge, but ap pistols work just as well

 

Try that next time its very easy, a lot easier than dodging cops across another bridge, scaling a steep gully or getting swarmed on the hair pin turn then driving at those same 2 cops head on across yet another bridge

 

It's very easy with kuruma. Also in bank only one guy takes money and he waits in bank a bit while others clear the cops outside. Then run to the passage and go right, jump over walls and go to bikes. No need to fight cops much. Rest is easy.

 

You have just said what we all do none of which relates to the kuruma in any way (you can also jump over way before that wall)

 

The problems with it is you have to wait and mess about to get in your garage first, stopping in the city with a 5 star wanted level, then there's the issue of getting players in it, which last I checked, meant you had to be outside the city, meaning further stopping. Then there the high, narrow, dirt road you have to navigate, one bad spill and you're in the river (in before "I iz da bezt driva yo" we all make mistakes, more so when getting chased on 5 stars). Finally you have to transfer to the boat, still with a 5 star wanted level at the very least losing money if not lives, I've seen randumbs die there more than once

 

oh and every bad bump loses money too

 

Like I said counter productive, learn the route, practice, profit

Edited May 24, 2015 by Ezekeil2Ofive17

[RogerWho]

Ezekiel, I've seen way, way, waaaaaay too many people taking your route and dieing along the way.

 

The worst part is, even if they do survive the bike route, there's always someone who dies when jumping.

 

Not everyone is good with bikes. Or with pressing the X button for that matter.

 

The only times I witnessed the ending cinematic when playing with randoms was when everyone got into a car and drove straight to the boat. People who recommend just using the bikes aren't realistic about the capabilities of most players.

[ZaBaconator3000]

I've failed twice at the jump. Only place in the game that stumps me with the parachute. And just take the parked infenuses. They are much faster.

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

Ezekiel, I've seen way, way, waaaaaay too many people taking your route and dieing along the way.

 

The worst part is, even if they do survive the bike route, there's always someone who dies when jumping.

 

Not everyone is good with bikes. Or with pressing the X button for that matter.

 

The only times I witnessed the ending cinematic when playing with randoms was when everyone got into a car and drove straight to the boat. People who recommend just using the bikes aren't realistic about the capabilities of most players.

 

As have I, but I've also seen way, way too many people die and lose money pissing around trying to get in the apartment nevermind the actual car or the people that get wiped out by noose before they even get the armoured van that doesn't even have bullet proof tyres and just about fits down the road you take to the boat

 

I've done this with mic-less randumbs, following me at least 10 - 15 times its not hard at all

 

My route is easy and more importantly consistent and can be ran in free mode, you don't have to be a great rider its a slow, relaxing, sunday afternoon ride in the country, you just have to know how to brake

 

See a cop, brake, cop swerves, drive past

 

As for the parachute it really isn't hard, frankly if you can't do it you don't deserve a cut

 

buy any sports bike then......

 

learn the route, practice, profit

 

 

 

I'm not looking to get into a debate over which route is better, I have already laid out my points but in closing I will say that my route is easier, it just doesn't appear that way, like the criminal mastermind it sounds harder than it is

 

Try it I'm not saying "I am the best thief ever do what I say" I really don't care what you do as long as you survive, don't lose too much money ($1.2 mill is good, $1.1 ok $1 mill fine, less then that restart) and don't bring an army of cops to the boat

 

Also get on the bikes one at time, if ,even for a second you get 2 men on a bike it can trigger a much more aggressive police response

 

Not trying to argue with you just trying to help by sharing the route, but both methods are valid and like I said do what you want!

[Verstappen]

the bridges are by far the worst. I remember I did Pacific standard with a friend and we were both driving pretty good, but I failed cause one police car crashed into another police car on the middle of a bridge blocking it fully. there wasn't even an 20 centimeter gap between any of them. There was no way to go past it. I tried turning around and got shot... Ok, second attempt. One bridge earlier this time the same thing happened! Knowing turning around is't possible as you'll get shot, I tried a wheelie, was able to somehow go over them and was shot again...

A random leaves... Quite logical if the same guys fails twice but c'mon game! WTF we're you doing! Never had those police cars crash into each other after though.

 

Now I always use any car I come across, last time it was a Bullet. Quite nice to drive, just drove it off the cliff slowly. No worries about any blockades.

[MatthewH]

If I use my armored kuruma I go up the goh if other players are in the car as well. You still have a wanted level when you get to the boat but it's safer than jumping off the cliff in the car. Used this method the other day with 3 players who had never done the finale before. Fortunately everyone had mics and I helped guide them through it. It was on hard and we lost 110k. I made sure that I carried all the money. Although I've played this finale with supposedly experienced players and lost more.

Edited May 24, 2015 by MatthewH

[RogerWho]

See a cop, brake, cop swerves, drive past

 

As for the parachute it really isn't hard, frankly if you can't do it you don't deserve a cut

I think anybody who's actually reading this can do both or at least are aware of their limitations... Problem is you can't communicate with randoms who either haven't played the mission yet or think too much of themselves.

 

As for parachuting, I've been in PS finals where I got to the boat by car and ALL 3 OTHER MEMBERS died when they jumped off the cliff. Like, on bikes, one by one. FFS. I don't get it what's the problem with this parachuting seriously, but obviously there is some.

 

I also don't see why you're worried about cops surrounding the boat... First one to arrive to the boat takes cover either behind the car or some rock, shoots everyone, clear. I think I've only seen one fail from cops around the boat plus one when I drowned my Kuruma after being bumped.

Edited May 24, 2015 by RogerWho

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

 

See a cop, brake, cop swerves, drive past

 

As for the parachute it really isn't hard, frankly if you can't do it you don't deserve a cut

I think anybody who's actually reading this can do both or at least are aware of their limitations... Problem is you can't communicate with randoms who either haven't played the mission yet or think too much of themselves.

 

You could say that about any mission, in any game, if you can't communicate then how is the kuruma a better option?

 

Braking like this works in single player too, so there is a greater chance people will understand and I'm not in the heist to hold hands (unless I'm asked to help.......not hold hands that's 40% minimum) I expect a certain basic level of skill, and player saved outfits are very effective

 

At least my way you can text "follow me"

 

As for parachuting, I've been in PS finals where I got to the boat by car and ALL 3 OTHER MEMBERS died when they jumped off the cliff. Like, on bikes, one by one. FFS. I don't get it what's the problem with this parachuting seriously, but obviously there is some.

 

If people can't listen to the dialogue, or follow the on screen instructions then no methods will help them, honestly if you ride a bike of a cliff and don't parachute, thinking that's the right thing to do you should just give up gaming all together

 

I also don't see why you're worried about cops surrounding the boat... First one to arrive to the boat takes cover either behind the car or some rock, shoots everyone, clear. I think I've only seen one fail from cops around the boat plus one when I drowned my Kuruma after being bumped.

 

First and foremost, lets have it right, I'm not "worried" I can handle myself, not bragging, not boasting. I put time into heists, experimented, practised and have found good methods......more on that later

 

You say randoms are useless and I agree, but now they need to have the awareness to stop, get out, find sufficient cover, fend off a 5 star wanted level and make sure the team gets to the boat, improbable at best and very risky..........more on that later too

 

The "first one to arrive"? If you're taking a kuruma or riot van wouldn't you all arrive together, surely that's one of the few pro's amongst a wealth of cons, unless of course you each take your own in which case you would have to lose the cops 4 different times and, potentially 4 different locations . I'm not even going to point out how bad of an idea that is

 

When I have used these methods, in spite of my objections, we stay in the car and use ap pistols, then take out the choppers on foot and use the, brief, window to get in the boat. Most randumbs ditch the car and just run, either losing cash or getting shot to death I've seen it happen time and again, despite providing cover from the boat or either bank of the river

 

 

This may sound obvious but good players will do well in any situation, bad players will struggle in all but the easiest situations

 

My methods are designed to minimise risk therefore making it easier, hence "The EZ Guide To Heists" with ez methods for each and every setup and heist, I know what I am talking about, see for yourself, maybe you could help by adding your methods

 

The bikes, combined with the off road route, minimise risk, they don't drag squad cars and choppers to an open area where you have to be on foot and swim, you can use any method you want there is no wrong way, as long as you survive, there are only safer ways and eliminate the risk of drowning or getting "bumped" in your kuruma

 

As I said I'm not debating this as you will not convince me that the kuruma / riot van is a better (less risky) method, its not. Its a valid method, but it's riskier

 

Learn the route, practise, profit

 

Also, while I realise my posts are long winded (at best!), I have answered each of your points to explain why my methods are easier, although they do not appear that way "on paper"

 

Not arguing with you and I won't be posting any more "massive" posts in this thread as it's gone widely off topic, for which I take responsibility. I was just trying to help!

Edited May 25, 2015 by Ezekeil2Ofive17

[ZaBaconator3000]

The problem is people don't ride the bikes off the cliff. They stop and try to jump. There is an outcrop 50 feet below that you will hit 90% of the time. I've only gotten there twice and I noobed it both times.

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

The problem is people don't ride the bikes off the cliff. They stop and try to jump. There is an outcrop 50 feet below that you will hit 90% of the time. I've only gotten there twice and I noobed it both times.

 

I did not know that! It never even occurred to me to get off the bike

 

Edited May 24, 2015 by Ezekeil2Ofive17

[ZaBaconator3000]

Now that I know how to do it it shouldn't be a problem. A lot of people (including me) just never thought of riding them off the cliff.

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

Now that I know how to do it it shouldn't be a problem. A lot of people (including me) just never thought of riding them off the cliff.

 

I can't remember the exact quote from Lester, but its something like "come to think of it, a kers boost right as you jump will get you clear" and there's a line before it too

 

Thats how I knew to stay on the bike, anyway good luck and don't forget to close your menu!

[Verstappen]

He says that indeed, but before that he also says drive your bike of the cliff.

[MPM]

 

I don't agree with your number 5, Gone off road there once and got shot dead when I turned onto the road again...

 

You drive straight up, stop, take out the 2 cops at the tunnel entrance, the ones that are always in the same place and carry on (which I mentioned just not here)

 

A well placed sticky bomb will clear them as well as blocking the bridge, but ap pistols work just as well

 

Try that next time its very easy, a lot easier than dodging cops across another bridge, scaling a steep gully or getting swarmed on the hair pin turn then driving at those same 2 cops head on across yet another bridge

 

 

 

It's very easy with kuruma. Also in bank only one guy takes money and he waits in bank a bit while others clear the cops outside. Then run to the passage and go right, jump over walls and go to bikes. No need to fight cops much. Rest is easy.

 

You have just said what we all do none of which relates to the kuruma in any way (you can also jump over way before that wall)

 

The problems with it is you have to wait and mess about to get in your garage first, stopping in the city with a 5 star wanted level, then there's the issue of getting players in it, which last I checked, meant you had to be outside the city, meaning further stopping. Then there the high, narrow, dirt road you have to navigate, one bad spill and you're in the river (in before "I iz da bezt driva yo" we all make mistakes, more so when getting chased on 5 stars). Finally you have to transfer to the boat, still with a 5 star wanted level at the very least losing money if not lives, I've seen randumbs die there more than once

 

oh and every bad bump loses money too

 

Like I said counter productive, learn the route, practice, profit

 

You are complicating too much. I don't understand which part about kuruma you don't understand. Buy apartment close to bikes, put kuruma in that garage and when you go to bikes just jump over fence and invite other 3 to house and later to garage. Rest is easy, no need to drive to clif and all that crap.

If you want harder way cause of challenge or fun then it's different. Btw I did it with bikes, simple cars, went straight to boat, jumped from cliff... and see no need more to explore hard ways.

Edited May 25, 2015 by MPM

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

 

 

I don't agree with your number 5, Gone off road there once and got shot dead when I turned onto the road again...

You drive straight up, stop, take out the 2 cops at the tunnel entrance, the ones that are always in the same place and carry on (which I mentioned just not here)

 

A well placed sticky bomb will clear them as well as blocking the bridge, but ap pistols work just as well

 

Try that next time its very easy, a lot easier than dodging cops across another bridge, scaling a steep gully or getting swarmed on the hair pin turn then driving at those same 2 cops head on across yet another bridge

 

 

 

It's very easy with kuruma. Also in bank only one guy takes money and he waits in bank a bit while others clear the cops outside. Then run to the passage and go right, jump over walls and go to bikes. No need to fight cops much. Rest is easy.

You have just said what we all do none of which relates to the kuruma in any way (you can also jump over way before that wall)

 

The problems with it is you have to wait and mess about to get in your garage first, stopping in the city with a 5 star wanted level, then there's the issue of getting players in it, which last I checked, meant you had to be outside the city, meaning further stopping. Then there the high, narrow, dirt road you have to navigate, one bad spill and you're in the river (in before "I iz da bezt driva yo" we all make mistakes, more so when getting chased on 5 stars). Finally you have to transfer to the boat, still with a 5 star wanted level at the very least losing money if not lives, I've seen randumbs die there more than once

 

oh and every bad bump loses money too

 

Like I said counter productive, learn the route, practice, profit

You are complicating too much. I don't understand which part about kuruma you don't understand. Buy apartment close to bikes, put kuruma in that garage and when you go to bikes just jump over fence and invite other 3 to house and later to garage. Rest is easy, no need to drive to clif and all that crap.

If you want harder way cause of challenge or fun then it's different. Btw I did it with bikes, simple cars, went straight to boat, jumped from cliff... and see no need more to explore hard ways.

 

 

I understand how to use the kuruma but, at its core, its riskier, requires more team work and is impossible without communication. Even by supporters of this method own admission its flawed

 

The bikes on the gps line is tough, but not when combined with the route

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like I said

 

This may sound obvious but good players will do well in any situation, bad players will struggle in all but the easiest situations

 

 

I have covered why it's easier to use the bikes in detail, please refer to my earlier posts

 

In short the kuruma / riot van is inconsistent at best, you may have a flawless strategy, in which case post in here or in my guide, I would be happy to edit it in...... (IF it works) but time and again I've seen people fail the job from messing around by trying to lose cops long enough to actually get in the apartment, then mess about trying to get others in, then get killed either on the final road or on the boat transfer, not to mention losing cash right up to the last second just because they think the bikes are too tough

 

My method is simple, easy, and works first time, every time plus it doesn't double your setup cost, important for those who are still concerned with money (if you are concerned with money do the criminal mastermind its easy see the guide for help)

 

Also, no offence, but I'm guessing English isn't your first language (not having a go at you, your English is better than my......anything else) so it's not really clear what you saying with the final sentence and you contradict yourself, which is confusing

 

Again, I have answered your post but its getting out of hand now and I'm just repeating myself, all I was doing was offering help

Edited May 25, 2015 by Ezekeil2Ofive17

[YG.]

This may sound obvious but don't drive the car to the jump, go straight to the boat by taking a left before the final bridge, put a waypoint on the boat if it helps, if you drive to the jump not only will you struggle to parachute it can fail you (I've been with randumbs who have done this.......twice)

 

I find this method to be deeply flawed and counter productive, it does work most of the time if done right, but it can be inconsistent at best and forces you to deal with more cops when getting in the garage / car and getting out at the boat with the cops still on you,

 

This goes double for the riot van too with this you have to deal with more, better armed cops and choppers. Neither method guarantees a good take and can still prove fatal

 

Try this route its very easy and you can practice in free roam

 

 

 

 

It's practically cop free see the guide for full breakdown and video link in sig

 

 

 

If you don't want to jump out of the Kuruma and parachute then just jump off the cliff and stay in the Kuruma. You will land safely and the you can just drive to the boat.

[Ezekeil2Ofive17]

 

This may sound obvious but don't drive the car to the jump, go straight to the boat by taking a left before the final bridge, put a waypoint on the boat if it helps, if you drive to the jump not only will you struggle to parachute it can fail you (I've been with randumbs who have done this.......twice)

 

I find this method to be deeply flawed and counter productive, it does work most of the time if done right, but it can be inconsistent at best and forces you to deal with more cops when getting in the garage / car and getting out at the boat with the cops still on you,

 

This goes double for the riot van too with this you have to deal with more, better armed cops and choppers. Neither method guarantees a good take and can still prove fatal

 

Try this route its very easy and you can practice in free roam

 

 

 

 

It's practically cop free see the guide for full breakdown and video link in sig

 

 

 

If you don't want to jump out of the Kuruma and parachute then just jump off the cliff and stay in the Kuruma. You will land safely and the you can just drive to the boat.

 

 

I'll just leave this here, its not my video I just like it!

 

I just go in, take my Armored Kuruma & drive to the boat.

 

It's a good technique - just make sure you go directly to the boat, rather than being tempted to follow the checkpoints...

 

Here's what might happen. Yes, I was driving. Yes, it would have been a successful Criminal Mastermind completion (though it was my second run through so I didn't lose out particularly, rather embarrassing).

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2015 by Ezekeil2Ofive17

[Verstappen]

I always drive whatever car I have slowly over the cliff. Never failed that way.

 

I don't want to wait in a boat with cops surrounding me.

[MPM]

Idk, never had problems with kuruma. If some crew member is so dumb to go his way and not to follow others to apartment after we fail twice (happened once), then I quit mission and invite all again but not that dumb who can't read chat.

Didn't play this heist for long time since I don't need money and feel lazy to waste time organizing all that setup missions first. I only need reward points now to get minigun so contact missions are much better for that.

 

Anyway, everybody can do this mission his own easiest way. For me it's kuruma. After I saw this tactic I was amazed how easy it became.

 

Also if you go by bikes chose player saved outfits and equip heavy heist combat clothes, have to buy it first in clothe store. Buy bulletproof helmet too.