R* Asked & Answered: The R* Editor, GTAO Updates & More

[nosmoking000]

"Gran Turismo has loading screens that load up the race track. It doesn't need all of the processing power to render or "draw" a huge open world."

lol...the assumption that the entirety of GTA's open world is loaded into memory all at once...rather than being streamed much like the track in GT. You just lost all credibility. Once again...there are hardware limitations...but neither user radio, nor first person are limited by it. The reason Rockstar doesn't add these things is because the vast majority will not upgrade unless they are missing out. The problem I have is that they took it upon themselves to lie about the reason. Rather than just saying "it's currently a PC exclusive feature" they had the gall to actually lie and say it's not possible when it is and had been for YEARS. GTA LCS and VCS on the PSP has custom radio FFS!

Dude you're taking my words and turning them into nonsensical bull crap. Whatever, though. I don't want to waste my time on arguing with someone who isn't capable of understanding hardware and marketing aspects.

 

Now, I'm going to play GTA V and enjoy the content that had been given to me for free and not complain.

[Tez2]

Are they?

 

Isn't the amount of scripted behaviour in a Hist 100%? That is, every single ped, car, and sequence is hard coded to occur versus a Contact Mission which is only somewhat scripted, and thus events can happen out of sequence (triggering the wrong point) or will different cars/etc in the area?

 

While I see your standpoint, "you can just make created Contact Missions to suffice for the setups and then a fully scripted Hist Finale," it would seem to be counter to the work they've put in, and thus open to accusations of just phoning it in.

 

Any GTAO hist you see is going to be held to the same quality standards that the ones we've already done were.

 

That said, a dozen new Contact Missions the likes of Los Santos Connection or No Hay Bronca where you have multiple mission points to take care of in order would be fantastic.

Contact missions are created using Rockstar mission creator.

They're capable of making every contact mission have full scripted behaviour but they didn't and added a mission creator and used it to create contact missions.

Take a look at the capture creator, you're limited with the available features but what If you can have full access to all natives ?

Heists are created using Rockstar mission creator with extra coding.

Edited May 8, 2015 by funmw2

[blk95ta]

Can we get a damn revolver already?

[Pete4000uk]

Thank you Rockstar

And thank YOU for showing not everyone is a ungreatful are!

[Pizentu]

 

Oh I know they are greedy. GTA Online had a "Replay" option after a mission, after R* realized people are getting a lot of money very fast "Legally" they took out replay option from missions. Soon after, one of the info screens when you loaded Online or between job was started to appear very often. It was about spending and how a Shark Card can give a quick injection of liquid assets.

 

Also I know PS3 ain't a modern PC or next gen console, but it can handle custom music in more then one game.

Gran Turismo 6 is pushing PS3 limits from a memory and graphical standpoint, running at 1080p. And still can play custom music.

You see PS3 haz this trick with it's memory, because the entire system architecture is designed around high bus bandwidth and constant streaming of tiny data packets, it's not caching large data stores.

So please don't insult my brain k.

This guy knows what the hell he's talking about. Frankly I find it insulting that Rockstar think we're dumb enough to buy their BS...but I find it genuinely worrying when people believe it. There are hardware limitations...but this isn't one.

 

 

FFS DUDE!!!!!! Look past your hatefest for a minute and look at it from some other angle. Yes, Many games on PS3 could import playlists from your consoles music folder. I DO NOT know how XPOX One works but you CAN NOT upload music to PS4. This is because SONY, not R*, made a decision to do this. I believe they (SONY) did so in order to get people to purchase their (SONYs) music service. Sonys music service sucked and was replaced with Spotify. I believe R* when they say the Console limits them at this time. Not because Im some "R* fanboy", but because it makes sense SONY is limiting the access to music. If R* is going through the trouble of porting their editor which was supposed to be exclusive to PC, why wouldnt they do the same with custom radio? That would have to be much easier than porting the Editor.

 

I dont think anyone would complain or not want their own personal radio, but your directing your displeasure at the wrong party.

Edited May 8, 2015 by Pizentu

[Mach1bud]

 

 

 

Oh I know they are greedy. GTA Online had a "Replay" option after a mission, after R* realized people are getting a lot of money very fast "Legally" they took out replay option from missions. Soon after, one of the info screens when you loaded Online or between job was started to appear very often. It was about spending and how a Shark Card can give a quick injection of liquid assets.

 

Also I know PS3 ain't a modern PC or next gen console, but it can handle custom music in more then one game.

Gran Turismo 6 is pushing PS3 limits from a memory and graphical standpoint, running at 1080p. And still can play custom music.

You see PS3 haz this trick with it's memory, because the entire system architecture is designed around high bus bandwidth and constant streaming of tiny data packets, it's not caching large data stores.

So please don't insult my brain k.

This guy knows what the hell he's talking about. Frankly I find it insulting that Rockstar think we're dumb enough to buy their BS...but I find it genuinely worrying when people believe it. There are hardware limitations...but this isn't one.

 

FFS DUDE!!!!!! Look past your hatefest for a minute and look at it from some other angle. Yes, Many games on PS3 could import playlists from your consoles music folder. I DO NOT know how XPOX One works but you CAN NOT upload music to PS4. This is because SONY, not R*, made a decision to do this. I believe they (SONY) did so in order to get people to purchase their (SONYs) music service. Sonys music service sucked and was replaced with Spotify. I believe R* when they say the Console limits them at this time. Not because Im some "R* fanboy", but because it makes sense SONY is limiting the access to music. If R* is going through the trouble of porting their editor which was supposed to be exclusive to PC, why wouldnt they do the same with custom radio? That would have to be much easier than porting the Editor.

 

I dont think anyone would complain or not want their own personal radio, but your directing your displeasure at the wrong party.

My man, just stick a USB stick with music on it into your ps4. Been stated a few times in the last few pages, that is how you do it.

[Lurker247]

Cars should get custom decals, this other game Asphalt 8 got them recently, and nice to see R Editor confirmed for consoles. Now the question is; will we wait similarity to the heists dlc.

 

Edit (an example of car decal)

 

Edited May 8, 2015 by Lurker247

[Kill Frenzy!]

Rockstar editor for XB1 and PS4.

 

Will indeed never happen.

[Shadowfennekin]

 

Rockstar editor for XB1 and PS4.

 

Will indeed never happen.

 

I'm think it'll be like Heists. "Whoops, sorry! It'll be out Fall 2015" then "Oh crap, did we say Fall 2015? We meant Winter 2015/6"

[mmm chocolate]

 

The next GTA better not come out 'in-between' another newer console. This whole experience kinda blows.

I've been playing since it released on 360, now on xbox one, am l really hyped for an editor after all this time? Not really.

What I'm trying to say is, it would be cool to get things before already playing the sh*t outta the game first.

It's called longevity. New content added through out the games existence is cool IMO.

But if your done, you're done.

What I'm trying to say is get used to this kind of implementation, especially with online games.

Just be glad we're not expected to keep paying real $$$$ for it.

New content is fine over time I agree...you missed the point of my post though.

If they didn't have to make the game for four different consoles (all within a year or two) ... The whole experience would have been much more enjoyable.

[streetx1xracer]

 

 

Rockstar editor for XB1 and PS4.

 

Will indeed never happen.either you're hating or didn't read the rockstar post.

[Econobrick]

I assume the Tampa will be part of this update as well... whenever the hell it actually comes!

 

I like the gullwing Mercedes but I think I'm more excited for the Tampa (even if it's just the BGT one)

and the way it's presented in that screenshot isn't doing it any favors... I'm sure you can make it look great, but the way they have it done up in that shot looks pretty awkward.

 

I guess they figured they might as well show it as being as cluelessly modded as 90% of the kiddies are going to have theirs anyway.

Edited May 9, 2015 by Econobrick

[KrayzH0RSE]

 

 

The next GTA better not come out 'in-between' another newer console. This whole experience kinda blows.

I've been playing since it released on 360, now on xbox one, am l really hyped for an editor after all this time? Not really.

What I'm trying to say is, it would be cool to get things before already playing the sh*t outta the game first.

It's called longevity. New content added through out the games existence is cool IMO.

But if your done, you're done.

What I'm trying to say is get used to this kind of implementation, especially with online games.

Just be glad we're not expected to keep paying real $$$$ for it.

New content is fine over time I agree...you missed the point of my post though.

If they didn't have to make the game for four different consoles (all within a year or two) ... The whole experience would have been much more enjoyable.

I guess I did miss your point. My bad on that cuz I agree whole heartedly.

[Black Terminator]

I think that new car this summer or whenever this updates happen, I think it will be around 250,000-500,000 dollars.

[Vaulttec]

I think that new car this summer or whenever this updates happen, I think it will be around 250,000-500,000 dollars.

to low thinking its 1mill-2mill

[Gaffa]

 

And I too am excited about a gull-winged benefactor, but I would SO MUCH RATHER them focus on better servers (less lag and other issues), removing wall-break glitches, etc etc.

 

I can't believe it's 2015 and people still don't get how developers work. The people who design vehicles and other content are not the people who work on servers/glitches/etc. GTA V is worked on by thousands of people across multiple R* studios across the globe. For example, a friend of mine works at a comic shop in New Hampshire close to one of R*'s studios and two R* employees often go there and talk to him. He says one of the guys only did work on the foliage and vegetation for GTA V, that's it. They have people who literally work on one small aspect of the game, so just because some people are working on DLC doesn't mean that nobody is working on fixes/patches.

 

 

You're probably 100% correct, but I'm afraid that means nothing to me. When you see how business' make use of money in real life, and then you consider how much money Rockstar made from one game on two consoles (it is now on 5 platforms) then you should want to question where that money is going. It's like Elections... some parties [companies] will consider healthcare [game content] more of a priority than education [gamebreaking issues] and so therefore use more of the budget for that.

The world revolves around money, and I do know Rockstar have made a fair whack of it, but most of the companies customers aren't having an ideal experience due to their failures in not fixing problems. Rockstar's 2 or 3 delays releasing Heists and their further 2 or 3 delays releasing the PC version is evidential that for whatever reason [it will involve money] they're not keeping in line with integrity and providing what they say. Suppose that's a bit like the politicians too.

 

GTA Online has been around for nearly 18 months now, and there are still (after 26 updates) apparent "Unknown" network connection errors. How can they not be known at this stage?

 

I think that new car this summer or whenever this updates happen, I think it will be around 250,000-500,000 dollars.

to low thinking its 1mill-2mill

 

 

Yeah with the Casco being 680k, this one is likely to be 750k - 1m.

 

I would take a guess at around the 825 - 925 mark, in line with the Stingers and Z Type.

Edited May 9, 2015 by Gaffa

[JustinR512]

 

 

 

 

 

What is a Rockstar Editor?

If it can't be explained with words, don't bother. I'm not supporting any YouTubers.

It's an editor, as shown in the video. If you watch the video, it will show you what the EDITOR CAN DO. wowYou know, I kind of figured from the way it's called "Rockstar Editor" that it's an editor. Wow.

What I want to know is: what does it edit?

If it cannot be explained in words, then don't bother answering, because...I'm not supporting any YouTubers. (Kind of feel like I'm repeating myself here.)

then be purposely ignorant.Then be purposefully an asshole, for answering a simple f*cking question.

[JustinR512]

 

 

 

 

 

What is a Rockstar Editor?

If it can't be explained with words, don't bother. I'm not supporting any YouTubers.

It's an editor, as shown in the video. If you watch the video, it will show you what the EDITOR CAN DO. wowYou know, I kind of figured from the way it's called "Rockstar Editor" that it's an editor. Wow.

What I want to know is: what does it edit?

If it cannot be explained in words, then don't bother answering, because...I'm not supporting any YouTubers. (Kind of feel like I'm repeating myself here.)

Okay buddy, it's a video editor. Why don't you watch the damn thing (and I don't give a crap about views btw) and see the very basic function of it, because apparently you're too lazy or too stupid to go the the RGSC and watch the tutorial.Excuse the f*ck out of me for asking a question on a f*cking MESSAGE BOARD, the kind of place where text discussion is the MAIN PURPOSE. You could've given a link, you could've given a brief description, or you could've STAYED F*CKING SILENT if you didn't want to be helpful.

 

If it's a video editor, fine, that's all I needed to know to know that I have no interest in the feature. I'm not a YouTuber. I hope it works well for those who will get enjoyment from it.

[Kohr-Ah]

Hey look, a sh*tstorm developed because two people were both dickheads to one another from the get-go! You do the internet proud, kiddos!

Anyway, more features, more content, (perhaps) more customization, and some general bugfixes. Cool. As long as you don't have to pay any more cash other than the standard PSN/XBL and internet service fees, there's really no reason to get your jimmies all rustled now, is there?

But yeah, we need a revolver

[Black Terminator]

 

I think that new car this summer or whenever this updates happen, I think it will be around 250,000-500,000 dollars.

to low thinking its 1mill-2mill

 

Well, if it comes to that total than I can afford it since I got richer during the Heists Mission Update.

[cremefraiche]

Wait, why is anyone still listening to funmw2? He did literally exactly what nillxmodz did

[Pentalarc]

 

 

The gull wing doors look awesome, but that screenshot would be so much cooler if the player was holding a .44 magnum. "The most powerful handgun in the world." A revolver is the only pistol missing.

Id love a revolver, but i bet r* will find some way to botch it up with an extended mag, suppressor, and 20 round starting capacity

 

The problem balancing a revolver realistically with the other choices. The advantages of a revolver, in the real world, over an automatic are things that are not simulated in the game. Specifically, the fact they don't jam (automatics don't jam in the game either) and durability (guns don't wear out/get damaged).

IIRC, the largest ammo load in a relatively common revolver (I am a writer, so I researched this a while back) is a Spanish gun, with a 9 round capacity. I can see a variant version with 10 rounds. However, IRL, that gun fires a .22 bullet, which is a lower caliber than the game normally simulates for non-automatic weapons.

Let's assume a more common load of 6. That is a low ammo capacity, and I'm not sure that it would would be able to compete with the other weapons, because I'm not sure where you would boost it up. Realistically, it would have an average-to-slow rate of fire*, could have high pistol damage, but I don't see it higher than the most powerful pistol currently, at it should have good accuracy, but again, not that much better to balance out the low ammo capacity**.

*I'm a assuming a fairly modern gun, so no fanning the hammer.

** I'm assuming for balance and simplification of the animation (as well as pure logic for the situation) reloading using a speedloader, so a comparable reload time to other pistols.

Edited May 9, 2015 by Pentalarc

[Mersay]

come on .. lets get some houses / mansions ...

[arstdfyhujik]

Wait, why is anyone still listening to funmw2? He did literally exactly what nillxmodz did

What did funmw2 do?

[Silver le Belge]

Wait, why is anyone still listening to funmw2? He did literally exactly what nillxmodz did

He explained what happened with Nill, and he was right for most of the infos he found. At worst if you don't believe him on the whole Nill story, he's a talented hacker and a conman, so listen to what he says and don't give him your money.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

so....this sh*t isnt a week old and people are already getting maaaaad

having console wars, fights about why rockstar sucks/is great, console limitations and cut content when comparing old gen vs new gen vs pc and arguiing about content thats ripped from thin air

this is why i love this place, the fire is always burning here

 

"we didnt start the fire.....it was always burning since the world's been burning..."

 

 

[Mr. Scratch]

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is a Rockstar Editor?

If it can't be explained with words, don't bother. I'm not supporting any YouTubers.

It's an editor, as shown in the video. If you watch the video, it will show you what the EDITOR CAN DO. wow

 

-Giant wall of sh*te-

 

 

Yes, right now. Thank you!

Edited May 9, 2015 by Mr.Scratch

[soundism]

 

 

 

 

 

The gull wing doors look awesome, but that screenshot would be so much cooler if the player was holding a .44 magnum. "The most powerful handgun in the world." A revolver is the only pistol missing.

Id love a revolver, but i bet r* will find some way to botch it up with an extended mag, suppressor, and 20 round starting capacity

 

The problem balancing a revolver realistically with the other choices. The advantages of a revolver, in the real world, over an automatic are things that are not simulated in the game. Specifically, the fact they don't jam (automatics don't jam in the game either) and durability (guns don't wear out/get damaged).

 

IIRC, the largest ammo load in a relatively common revolver (I am a writer, so I researched this a while back) is a Spanish gun, with a 9 round capacity. I can see a variant version with 10 rounds. However, IRL, that gun fires a .22 bullet, which is a lower caliber than the game normally simulates for non-automatic weapons.

 

Let's assume a more common load of 6. That is a low ammo capacity, and I'm not sure that it would would be able to compete with the other weapons, because I'm not sure where you would boost it up. Realistically, it would have an average-to-slow rate of fire*, could have high pistol damage, but I don't see it higher than the most powerful pistol currently, at it should have good accuracy, but again, not that much better to balance out the low ammo capacity**.

 

*I'm a assuming a fairly modern gun, so no fanning the hammer.

** I'm assuming for balance and simplification of the animation (as well as pure logic for the situation) reloading using a speedloader, so a comparable reload time to other pistols.

Give it a six round capacity

Range: slightly more than other pistols

Damage: equal to that of the Musket's

Rate of fire: equal to that of the pump action shotgun's

[TheKingChivas]

so....this sh*t isnt a week old and people are already getting maaaaad

having console wars, fights about why rockstar sucks/is great, console limitations and cut content when comparing old gen vs new gen vs pc and arguiing about content thats ripped from thin air

this is why i love this place, the fire is always burning here

 

"we didnt start the fire.....it was always burning since the world's been burning..."

 

 

Just wait until 2 days after any of this sh*t comes out when they're all bitching about how it all sucks and is boring.

[44MA9NUM357]

Mission Creator and a revolver is what ive been waiting for since launch.