Share Your Feelings

[EscoLehGo]

Officer? Dude, don't burst into a thread crying about how your 15 year old friend got shot in the face during some drug exchange you brought him too and not expect any follow up questions. If what you're saying is true then it's your fault your buddy died, you should probably find some way to reconcile with that, if you're religious go to church or confess to your local priest.

[Shiva.]

Mr. Reaper, I'm sorry about your friend, mate. I came to know about your friend's death when I read about it in the issue 55 of Multiplayer Monitor. No one can help you in your problem, mate. Try not to think about your friend as it'll only make you cry.

[Mr. Reaper.]

Well, great to see the internet is full of assholes.

 

Great jobs guys!

 

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My profile age is 1977 due to I expected this site to have an over 18 requirement, so I used the year of production for the AMT Hardballer.

 

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I am being myself and honest, with you people.

 

I was foolish to think that a topic about 'feelings' would actually contain people that care.

 

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As for a real biker leading a video game clan, what's so unbelievable about that?

 

Also, I'm merely a low ranking member of the actual MC.

 

You people seem to have very skewed ideas of what a biker is, too much TV maybe.

 

You have real police officers do GTA LCPD Role-plays, so why's is so unbelievable that a real biker has a video game clan.

 

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Things are done differently down here in Tasmania to the rest of the world.

 

So maybe open up your minds, or get your head out your ass.

 

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The only people I've encountered in this Gen Chat Section that seems to have a heart is Shiva, so thanks.

 

As for the rest of you, you linger in a topic helping people with petty problems but the second a real problem appears, you call bullsh*t and act like jackasses.

Edited September 17, 2012 by Mr. Reaper.

[Shiva.]

You're welcome but you should understand that people who replied above me are not laughing at your problem. They're just not ready to believe you so easliy. And, why don't you thank trip too ?

[Mr. Reaper.]

You're welcome but you should understand that people who replied above me are not laughing at your problem. They're just not ready to believe you so easliy. And, why don't you thank trip too ?

Because personally, All I see is him questioning it all.

 

I understand people, may not believe me.

 

Which is why for the most part I've kept this to myself.

 

Hell it is the internet for all they know, I could be an eleven year old girl with a keyboard.

 

But the truth is, everything I've said is purely the truth, I'm not hear to impress anyone.

 

I'm at the end of my rope, and I'm desperately seeking help, that's why I'm here.

[trip]

As for a real biker leading a video game clan, what's so unbelievable about that?

 

Also, I'm merely a low ranking member of the actual MC.

 

You people seem to have very skewed ideas of what a biker is, too much TV maybe.

It's just unbelievable. Also, I do not have a skewed view of the biker world. I've been riding longer than you have been alive - I also refuse to watch anything biker(fiction) related on TV. I know how the clubs work; all the way from the cheesy ones to the scary ones.

 

I'm a biker. I've earned that title so I feel entitled to challenge your claims.

 

 

[Mr. Reaper.]

As for a real biker leading a video game clan, what's so unbelievable about that?

 

Also, I'm merely a low ranking member of the actual MC.

 

You people seem to have very skewed ideas of what a biker is, too much TV maybe.

It's just unbelievable. Also, I do not have a skewed view of the biker world. I've been riding longer than you have been alive - I also refuse to watch anything biker(fiction) related on TV. I know how the clubs work; all the way from the cheesy ones to the scary ones.

 

I'm a biker. I've earned that title so I feel entitled to challenge your claims.

I never stated you weren't entitled to challenge my claims.

 

However, I came here for help, not to defend my 'claims.'

 

Also, something that's flawed with your defense, is you haven't rode with Tasmanian Bikers.

We're different from anything else I've seen or encountered.

 

Now, are we all going to just target me, or offer some sort of assistance, as the topic suggests.

 

If I'm just going to be a target, I'll leave to prevent further stress on my parts,

and less drama on the forums part.

[trip]

Also, something that's flawed with your defense, is you haven't rode with Tasmanian Bikers.

We're different from anything else I've seen or encountered.

I hear ya.

 

I did try to offer up an honest suggestion earlier with my 'lead an honest life' comment.

 

Most people here will confirm my hippie ways, and I'm sorry if my posts where looking like an attack. I was trying to be as polite about them as possible. The thing is - I have been riding for a long ass time and tend to be sensitive and take offense when people mock or 'wanabe' in the biker fold.

 

Not really sure how Tasmanian clubs can be much different. Curious of course - maybe take it to the motorcycle thread in vehicle chat.

[Mr. Reaper.]

Also, something that's flawed with your defense, is you haven't rode with Tasmanian Bikers.

We're different from anything else I've seen or encountered.

I hear ya.

 

I did try to offer up an honest suggestion earlier with my 'lead an honest life' comment.

 

Most people here will confirm my hippie ways, and I'm sorry if my posts where looking like an attack. I was trying to be as polite about them as possible. The thing is - I have been riding for a long ass time and tend to be sensitive and take offense when people mock or 'wanabe' in the biker fold.

 

Not really sure how Tasmanian clubs can be much different. Curious of course - maybe take it to the motorcycle thread in vehicle chat.

It's all good man,

 

I understand, playing video games I encounter many wannabes, and even more whilst riding.

 

But the fact is, I'm legit.

 

As for Tasmanian Clubs, They differ due to it being apart of Australia, and Aus differs greatly from the USA.

 

It's just how we do things differently, and what not. I'd gladly PM you, but not public.

 

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As for people helping me, you haven't really done much.

However being able to make it public and chat a little.

Has helped me 'vent' at least a little.

 

So thanks for that.

[guib]

Mr. Reaper, I don't know nothing about your life.

But death is a natural part of life, everyone need time to grief about their loved ones, it is also a part of life.

You can't change it, it has happend and there is nothing to do about it anymore.

Thus the only real thing you can do is getting over him, you need to forgive yourself.

Look at it this way: What if your friend would look at you now, what would he say? Would he say that you should just get over his death, or would he say that you have to stay guilty forever?

[Mr. Reaper.]

Mr. Reaper, I don't know nothing about your life.

But death is a natural part of life, everyone need time to grief about their loved ones, it is also a part of life.

You can't change it, it has happend and there is nothing to do about it anymore.

Thus the only real thing you can do is getting over him, you need to forgive yourself.

Look at it this way: What if your friend would look at you now, what would he say? Would he say that you should just get over his death, or would he say that you have to stay guilty forever?

Glad you focused on the reason I'm here, and not the reasons for the event.

 

I know he'd want me to get over it, so I'm not suffering.

But I'm burdened with guilt.

 

I feel if I had only pushed him harder, he'd still be here.

 

I really don't know where to turn, professional help is currently not an option.

Plus I'm not a man of faith, I don't believe in religion.

[EscoLehGo]

Why don't you talk to the older people in your MC about it or are you all young guys?

[Greenline]

Look, you came to a gaming forum where most people don't know you and you posted something extremely similar to a fanfic. We are people too and we have our share of being able to doubt, as you said yourself, it's the internet, and that gets amplified by the fact that most of us don't know you.

 

If you feel the need to suddenly close up and get protective when someone questions your posts, then so be it, you can't expect help from people you're being an ass to. So, if you want to post here and call people who ask you questions 'officer', 'jackasses' and say that we 'have our heads up our asses', then you shouldn't expect much help.

 

So, yes, us heartless bastards would like to hear a backstory before we can give you a serious reply to whatever is plaguing you. You're not the first one to come across this kind of doubt, and I do doubt that you'll be the last one. Meaning that, no, you can't come in here expecting sympathy and advice to rain on you because you said something.

 

Oh, those 'petty problems' get attention because they're more believable. The people here aren't heartless bastards for not believing every little story people tell, they have common sense. And we're not interrogating you, we're asking you questions to get an idea for what's going on on your side of the monitor, we can't know magically. But you just close up and start cursing your lungs (or fingers?) out because of it, and expect us to just believe everything we're told.

 

I'm sorry about your friend, and may he rest in piece. And I do hope your feelings of guilt end. I also hope that your guilt isn't justified (I can't judge that because I didn't get the whole story).

 

RIP to your friend, and good luck to you.

 

And that's me giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Edited September 17, 2012 by Greenline

[Mr. Reaper.]

I do apologize, about getting overly defensive.

 

That was my bad, but I don't talk to people about my problems often.

I don't have anything to do with my family, and have few friends.

As pathetic as it is, I refer to my gamer friends for friendship.

I don't speak to the club as they are all 'badass' and I guess I'm the weak sensitive one.

 

I apologize if I seemed like an ass, which now reading back in a calm mind.

I can see I clearly was.

 

I understand you have your doubts, it's to be expected, as when I re-read the post of his death,

I do in fact see how it can be seen as fan fiction, but unfortunately it's the fact I have to live with.

 

So although it may seem doubtful, and you may not believe, which your entitled to do.

I beg you to give me the benefit of the don't as you don't know me, nor do I know you.

 

Even if you doubt the whole lifestyle behind his death, his death is a fact.

If you can't believe the lifestyle, at least believe his death and allow me to grief.

 

So, I ask has anyone here lost a loved one or friend and somehow blamed themselves?

Even if it lacked evident that it was your fault, you felt the blame.

 

How did you overcome it?

[DEALUX]

I'm probably not helping this at all, but I personally don't believe in free will and thus the idea that "I could have done otherwise" makes no sense. It's not that I'm stubborn or something, but I don't see how such a thing can exist. I don't think I am responsible for anything that I do but it's hard to actually believe that, because whenever you do something wrong you can't help but blame yourself. It's natural.

[Mr. Reaper.]

I'm probably not helping this at all, but I personally don't believe in free will and thus the idea that "I could have done otherwise" makes no sense. It's not that I'm stubborn or something, but I don't see how such a thing can exist. I don't think I am responsible for anything that I do but it's hard to actually believe that, because whenever you do something wrong you can't help but blame yourself. It's natural.

As strange as that statement is.

 

It actually helps.

 

Thank you.

[DEALUX]

There's nothing you can do anyway, you can't change the past. You have to get over it.

[coin-god]

I'm probably not helping this at all, but I personally don't believe in free will and thus the idea that "I could have done otherwise" makes no sense. It's not that I'm stubborn or something, but I don't see how such a thing can exist. I don't think I am responsible for anything that I do but it's hard to actually believe that, because whenever you do something wrong you can't help but blame yourself. It's natural.

You do what your brain tells you to do. But since it's your brain, it's your responsability. If you live life thinking you are not responsable for anything, then you are weirder than I thought.

[DEALUX]

Responsibility in justice is based on the idea that you could have done otherwise, which doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how you can have two possible outcomes from one situation\set of causes.

 

I then think logically, responsibility makes no sense either. I act as if I am responsible and as if my choices are free, but I can't lie to myself that those things are true. I have no choice but to act as if I am responsible.

[Mr. Reaper.]

@_____ :

 

Now, your making no sense what so ever.

[DEALUX]

Well, I'm not here to teach physics. Causality is in everything. I don't see how you can have free choice with it, but then again without causality there is no choice at all. So free will is basically impossible to define whether it's real or not.

[EscoLehGo]

I'm probably not helping this at all, but I personally don't believe in free will and thus the idea that "I could have done otherwise" makes no sense. It's not that I'm stubborn or something, but I don't see how such a thing can exist. I don't think I am responsible for anything that I do but it's hard to actually believe that, because whenever you do something wrong you can't help but blame yourself. It's natural.

You remind me of my intro to philosophy professor who wanted to debate with the class for three lectures straight about whether it was ethical or not to torture toddlers and babies. "But think about this class, what if the baby had information you desperately needed? Would torture be warranted to extract answers then?". Damn that class was annoying, a bunch of talking in circles and what ifs. I remember there was even one defined philosophical theory that everything around us is a manifestation of our own imagination and that we all live in separate universes or something, ugh, it's making me want to sh*t just typing about it.

[coin-god]

Well, I'm not here to teach physics. Causality is in everything. I don't see how you can have free choice with it, but then again without causality there is no choice at all. So free will is basically impossible to define whether it's real or not.

You keep saying: "I don't see this", "I don't see how that". But you don't explain why.

[Mr.Mordecai]

Damn. I had a dream where i had my first kiss (yes im 15 and never had my first kiss) with her. IT was a hella good dream. Im going to her birthday dinner on Weds.

 

[Exxon]

Damn. I had a dream where i had my first kiss (yes im 15 and never had my first kiss) with her. IT was a hella good dream. Im going to her birthday dinner on Weds.

I'm 15(.5) too and I've only had my first kiss a little more than a month ago.

Recently, I had a dream about kissing a cute girl, and I seriously felt the difference between braces and no braces

[DEALUX]

You keep saying: "I don't see this", "I don't see how that". But you don't explain why.

Any choice you make is based on several causes, which in turn are caused by prior causes and so on. So this set of causes that determined you to post in this topic for example, couldn't have determined you to do something else instead. You are probably thinking now that you could have done otherwise, "I could have thought of doing something else", but you didn't. Why? Because there was nothing there to determine you to do so.

 

The brain works in this deterministic way and you can tell that by examining your choices. They have causes you can recognize and while you may not know all of them, it is the way it works.

[Notna]

Ahahha, here I go again. I thought I would wait atleast two years before I could even talk about these things, but I guess, age 13...

 

Soo... I'm on the 7th grade now, my class is 7C, my class is awesome, all of my friends are here, and nobody is an idiot. The problem is that like on my previous class, there was always some teen romances. And looks like I'm involved. And not for the first time.

 

So, there's always that special someone for us. And I think that I have found it. But I don't know how to show it. Today, my world was destroyed and in 2 hours, it blew up to the sky again. First I heard from two of my friends talking that "that my special someone" liked the other of those guys. I of course acted normal and all etc but yah. 2 hours later, the guy asked this "special someone"(let's call her like that) if she likes him. And he got owned. With a f*cking bitch slap. It wasn't funny, but looking back, it was also osm.

 

The total breakthrough came when we were talking about liars in our "gang" (just me and my best friend, nothing else), she involved in the talk, and when my friend said that "Guys never lie" she said something like "Bullsh*t, you're lying right now" with a face like . My friend then was joking and was pointing out me, and all of our other boys in our class and said like "then these all are assholes". I joked that "I don't want to be an asshole" with the face and she said that "No, Antton, you aren't, you're different" with just decent face. When I asked if she was serious, she said that she is.

 

[DEALUX]

Don't get too excited. This goes for anything in life. However, the fact that she thinks you are different can suggest you have an advantage.

[coin-god]

 

You keep saying: "I don't see this", "I don't see how that". But you don't explain why.

Any choice you make is based on several causes, which in turn are caused by prior causes and so on. So this set of causes that determined you to post in this topic for example, couldn't have determined you to do something else instead. You are probably thinking now that you could have done otherwise, "I could have thought of doing something else", but you didn't. Why? Because there was nothing there to determine you to do so.

 

The brain works in this deterministic way and you can tell that by examining your choices. They have causes you can recognize and while you may not know all of them, it is the way it works.

Wait. I think I understand were you are coming from. And I actually agree with you in part.

Free will is nothing but an ilusion from your brain, you do what your brain tells you to do. But that dosn't mean that something else couldn't have happened. It obviously didn't because only 1 thing can happen at the same time.

 

There is basically no way to test this. If B would of had happened instead of A you would say that only B would be the possible conclusion. And vice versa.

 

If this makes any sense to you or anyone at all.

Edited October 3, 2012 by goin-god

[DEALUX]

Yeah, there's no way to test it like there's no way to test evolution 100%, but the mechanism is there. So logically, a set of causes can only create one outcome. There's no reason to believe that some part of your brain avoids determinism. There is no coherent way to define free will, whether it's real or imaginary.