Ss4gogeta0 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 another thing I wanted to suggest, would be a separate GTA V showroom so that the initial showroom isnt getting flooded by GTA V script hooks as it currently is (mostly the scripting section) anyway its just something that was on my mind... Agem, Luna 51, CML99 and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyks Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I agree, better yet would be having a separate mod showroom for III-Era Games and another one for HD-Era Games. SA mods are getting lost in the middle of a sea of V mods, and it will only get worse once more stuff is discovered for that game. Ezekiel, Igor Bogdanoff and Ss4gogeta0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGM Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Not going to happen. I asked other led-by's and they agree, it'd be too much. Finding mods will be easier once the new alternative site for GTAGarage is up and we might re-add the tags from the old forum so people can filter topics via the thread tag rather than [REL|SA] or [WIP|VC]. Edited May 6, 2015 by TJGM ClaudX and Reyks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 SA mods are getting lost in the middle of a sea of V mods... that touched me Deep brotha... Ss4gogeta0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evgikkk Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 With this you need something to do. All mixed and uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGM Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 With this you need something to do. All mixed and uncomfortable. This isn't a site to host mods, we're not splitting the showrooms, as I said.. Finding mods will be easier once the new alternative site for GTAGarage is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evgikkk Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Not going to happen. I asked other led-by's and they agree, it'd be too much. Finding mods will be easier once the new alternative site for GTAGarage is up and we might re-add the tags from the old forum so people can filter topics via the thread And when that happens? Thank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ss4gogeta0 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) well how about just making another category for V mods? technically you wouldnt be splitting up the showroom, it would just be a dedicated area for V until the modding scene for that straightens out. whereas they will be combined back into the normal structure... because right now there is too much hype surrounding V modding and its bringing alot of undesirables who do stupid stuff and release them as mods under false and misleading names... Because right now its getting pretty damn ridiculous that I have to swim through a sea of V just to check if topics I care about are updated or not... along with the idiots who comment on almost every 3D era mod telling people it would be better to port it to V as if thats even possible or wanted... Edited May 10, 2015 by Ss4gogeta0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudX Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 well how about just making another category for V mods? technically you wouldnt be splitting up the showroom, it would just be a dedicated area for V until the modding scene for that straightens out. whereas they will be combined back into the normal structure... because right now there is too much hype surrounding V modding and its bringing alot of undesirables who do stupid stuff and release them as mods under false and misleading names... Because right now its getting pretty damn ridiculous that I have to swim through a sea of V just to check if topics I care about are updated or not... along with the idiots who comment on almost every 3D era mod telling people it would be better to port it to V as if thats even possible or wanted... Has it not been like this with every new release once modding tools have been added? No game has had a separate section before, no matter how many mods it may have. Plus, it would possibly drive traffic away from the normal modding section. Because the V mods are mixed in with the other mods, people searching for V mods can see other mods, which is better for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGM Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 well how about just making another category for V mods? technically you wouldnt be splitting up the showroom, it would just be a dedicated area for V until the modding scene for that straightens out. whereas they will be combined back into the normal structure... because right now there is too much hype surrounding V modding and its bringing alot of undesirables who do stupid stuff and release them as mods under false and misleading names... Because right now its getting pretty damn ridiculous that I have to swim through a sea of V just to check if topics I care about are updated or not... along with the idiots who comment on almost every 3D era mod telling people it would be better to port it to V as if thats even possible or wanted... Has it not been like this with every new release once modding tools have been added? No game has had a separate section before, no matter how many mods it may have. Plus, it would possibly drive traffic away from the normal modding section. Because the V mods are mixed in with the other mods, people searching for V mods can see other mods, which is better for them. This ^ Misleading thread titles and mods is something I want to look into though. Seems people are just creating silly mods and then naming them after previously popular IV mods. Ss4gogeta0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodidea82 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I also support the idea that something should be done about it. I think that the rate at which mods are created for V will not decrease any time soon but rather increase even move. I'm very happy about the developments in V, but the old gta games still have a great community and in particular for SA there have been big breackthroughs and contribusions recently and there is a lot of promissing work. We need a plattform that the old games deserve. There are communities and websites for games that are even much older, for example Zak McKracken. Ezekiel and Link2012 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior_Djjr Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) I really really want this... I always need to send a message on a topic my for him to return to be accessed by users I've ceased to publish important mods here like my EnhFuncs 'cause, for now, GTA V is obfuscating SA mods and I know that when I publish the mod will be easily forgotten, so for now I've been waiting for the "dust lower" because it is currently impossible... I once published small and simple mods and were very well regarded. Currently, I publish projects that took me years to create and I am barely noticed, I'm noticing the change. And GTAGarage is very different, personally I don't use it anymore, GTAForums is dynamic, is a local to discuss better and I prefer disclose downloads in my blogs rather than GTA Garage which is very limited. Edited May 25, 2015 by Junior_Djjr Ss4gogeta0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2012 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't even visit the showroom anymore because of this. Ezekiel, Junior_Djjr, xNCx and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I really really want this... They should make a Vote Poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ss4gogeta0 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) The People have spoken. I mean I only look at the maps and total conversion boards now because of it... the coding board is swarmed with V mods, same as other. the character boards are becoming this along with the vehicles board... Im not even asking that you make a different 5 modding forum... atleast just make a sub board on each board for V mods only. we beg of you Edited May 25, 2015 by Ss4gogeta0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGM Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) The people also don't understand exactly what we can do right now. I'm aware the current topic tags (e.g. [sA|REL]) that we have now really don't work at all with the search function, I tested it and [sA|REL] still gave me results for [V|REL] mods. We asked for actual topic tags like the forum used to have but we have to wait until IPB 4 until we can enable them apparently. Another board I'm not sure on, I don't think we could even do that right now either. It'd make moderating even harder and despite the fact that San Andreas still has a fairly big modding community, it's not exactly growing and it's only going to get smaller the bigger V modding gets which would kind of make a separate Showroom worthless. Edited May 25, 2015 by TJGM ClaudX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudX Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Either way, random blokes who wander on to this forum and post their modification for V are most likely going to ignore the separate subforum. That would mean the Moderating Team would have to keep reminding these folks and continually move the mods into the subforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodidea82 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ....are most likely going to ignore the separate subforum. That would mean the Moderating Team would have to keep reminding these folks and continually move the mods into the subforum. The idea with the subforum was just one suggestion. There are many possibilities. I'm certain that one solution is possible where everyone would be happy. .. Another board I'm not sure on, I don't think we could even do that right now either. It'd make moderating even harder and despite the fact that San Andreas still has a fairly big modding community, it's not exactly growing and it's only going to get smaller the bigger V modding gets which would kind of make a separate Showroom worthless. According to this argumentation sections dedicated to the previous gta games should be removed from this website, because the capacity limit of this website (for moderating) has been reached and V is more important and growing. Is this the direction where gtaforums is heading? (rhetoric question) My proposition is (just a possibility), why not make a "Mod Showroom V" and "Mod Showroom Legacy" (or "Mod Showroom I-IV"). The amount of work for moderating will be approximately the same, because the number of contributions will not change, they will be just separated into the two areas. If the number of contributions decreases in the legacy room in the future, then also the amount of moderating work will decrease there, but it will give people the opportunity to return back after some years if they had a break. As mentioned there are websites for much older games, e.g., Zak McKracken, old Sonic and Mario games, Tomb Raider 1-3. Take a look at gtainside and gamemodding.net, they also support all the games. It would be really a pitty if gtaforums does not manage to provide a proper platform for the old gta games and to name it: destroy the existing communities. Link2012 and Junior_Djjr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGM Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) I don't think you understand, moderating the modding section is vastly different than moderating the "sections dedicated to the previous gta games". The moderation work will change. I do most moderating work on my own since people don't seem to report mods for Online, piracy, stolen mods, etc.. as often as they should which just makes our job harder, especially since we already have to moderate the three discussion boards, the tutorial board and art support board. If you don't realise either, moderating the things I mentioned is a lot harder than moderating the issues that appear in the previous GTA games sections. Sure, we also have a site dedicated to mods for the old GTA games and the new GTA games, it's called GTAGarage which will soon be revamped and will hopefully feature the old linking system that we had between GTAGarage and the Mod Showroom. This way you can browse the mods on GTAGarage and with a simple click it'll take you to the thread for the mod here. And like I said.. The people also don't understand exactly what we can do right now. Edited May 26, 2015 by TJGM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodidea82 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 OK, if I understand we need ideas how to solve the moderating problem, as this is the true bottleneck. Maybe the V community will provide new moderators soon. I hope the new work on GTAGarage will bring an improvement. Thank you very much for your work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uNi Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 We're looking into it, but don't want to rush into it. Last time we (me tbh) did fast changes to the modding area it took a few weeks to sort things out as it wasn't properly looked into, again, my bad. We're monitoring the traffic and see which action will be better for V, either new showroom boards just for it, topic tags or even both. Until there it will remain like these so we don't have to add and delete boards every day. As for the GTAGarage being updated, it's been coded from scratch by Tank to fix issues with the current version and to add support for V Modding. It's almost ready to go live but still needs a few tweaks, this is done in Tank's free time so it's taking a while, but it will be worth the wait. For now, if you need and V stuff hosted, send me a PM and we'll host on the current gtag for you. TJGM, Junior_Djjr and Ezekiel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) I don't think you understand, moderating the modding section is vastly different than moderating the "sections dedicated to the previous gta games". The moderation work will change. I do most moderating work on my own since people don't seem to report mods for Online, piracy, stolen mods, etc.. as often as they should which just makes our job harder, especially since we already have to moderate the three discussion boards, the tutorial board and art support board. If you don't realise either, moderating the things I mentioned is a lot harder than moderating the issues that appear in the previous GTA games sections. Sure, we also have a site dedicated to mods for the old GTA games and the new GTA games, it's called GTAGarage which will soon be revamped and will hopefully feature the old linking system that we had between GTAGarage and the Mod Showroom. This way you can browse the mods on GTAGarage and with a simple click it'll take you to the thread for the mod here. And like I said.. The people also don't understand exactly what we can do right now. Speaking off gtagarage, I am a bit sad that you guys seem to have given up on it. Back in the IV days it was a good place to host a mod and the link to GTAF forum topic was much appreciated. I uploaded my newest trainer there for old time sake, but found out that there isn't even a V category on GtaGarage, so I put it under IV Edited May 28, 2015 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I don't think you understand, moderating the modding section is vastly different than moderating the "sections dedicated to the previous gta games". The moderation work will change. I do most moderating work on my own since people don't seem to report mods for Online, piracy, stolen mods, etc.. as often as they should which just makes our job harder, especially since we already have to moderate the three discussion boards, the tutorial board and art support board. If you don't realise either, moderating the things I mentioned is a lot harder than moderating the issues that appear in the previous GTA games sections. Sure, we also have a site dedicated to mods for the old GTA games and the new GTA games, it's called GTAGarage which will soon be revamped and will hopefully feature the old linking system that we had between GTAGarage and the Mod Showroom. This way you can browse the mods on GTAGarage and with a simple click it'll take you to the thread for the mod here. And like I said.. The people also don't understand exactly what we can do right now. Speaking off gtagarage, I am a bit sad that you guys seem to have given up on it. Back in the IV days it was a good place to host a mod and the link to GTAF forum topic was much appreciated. I uploaded my newest trainer there for old time sake, but found out that there isn't even a V category on GtaGarage, so I put it under IV GTAGarage certainly looks dated now days, when compared to other Modding Sites. Junior_Djjr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK22Pac Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 III era modding at GTAForums will die some day or other. But it will be a quick and painful death if nothing will be changed. I was hoping to hear support from 'administration', but they said "It was expected". Junior_Djjr and Link2012 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uNi Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Older games will be supported as long this network exists. Ezekiel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGM Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) - Edited June 4, 2015 by TJGM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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