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FPS Improvement Guide


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Very high textures no shadows

 

Not a graphics whore, turns off shadow so he can get v.high textures and water, seems legit

 

BTW guys we are on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/34sz8i/posted_a_guide_on_how_to_turn_off_shadows_in_gta/

This post was not made so people can bitch about people not having good rigs

It was made to help people who dont have high end rigs so you can stop your bitching and leave this thread since you have no problem running this game.

Bitching about how bad it looks isnt going to stop people from doing it

Texture quality and water quality does not affect FPS

I turned off shadows to get FPS are you not able to read? or did you come in look at the pictures and start bitching?

You might aswell save your time and stop posting here completely because im not going to remove this post

Im not going to stop playing without shadows

I know shadows makes it look better but again like i said so many times I LIKE MY FPS

 

And the funny thing is that most of all the butthurt people complaining about my guide have high end rigs with no issue running the game

If you dont need to do this to get better fps then why the f*ck are you reading it and sh*tposting?

 

 

There's so many things wrong about this post. Texture and water quality affects FPS more than shadows do. Even at 720p High and normal were pretty much indistinguishable.

 

 

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Very high textures with shadows

 

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Normal Textures no shadows

 

 

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Normal Textures with shadows

 

 

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Textures do not affect fps

 

 

Yet you're playing at such a low resolution. They do affect FPS especially if you're moving. Turn down water quality.

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iRideIndependent

Id rather be able to aim and mod and play online for free

Stop just stop with this crap

i CAN handle the game just fine

This post is to help people who cant run the game properly

 

Id rather beable to aim and play online for free

That totally hasnt been said 27 times already

also let me copypaste this until you get it

 

Id rather beable to aim and play online for free

 

Implying you can't aim on console? Free online and modding are valid reasons, but of all things you could say, being able to aim?

 

If anything controllers make this game easier than a mouse and keyboard (excluding in first person free aim lobbies).

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If you dont like this method then dont do it dont post

If you do like this method then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad then dont do it dont post

If you dont mind it looking bad then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad compared to consoles then dont do it dont post

If you dont care if it looks bad compared to consoles then do it and do post

If you think your better off playing on console then pay $400-$500 and rebuy the game and pay a subscription fee to play online

If you dont want to play on consoles since you already bought the game on pc then play it on pc

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Texture quality and water quality does not affect FPS

 

u wot m8 ? texture quality is one of the biggest fps eaters as is water

 

 

You might aswell save your time and stop posting here completely because im not going to remove this post

 

Nobody is asking you to, im posting here so people can see that if u run the game on normal you would get BETTER graphics and BETTER performance. If you compare your video and the video i posted, you can clearly see that the game is running a pretty much stable 60fps, whilst on your video u can still see it dip bellow 30 at times, nowhere near the stable 60 fps, and yet the game looks much much worse then the video from the other user, who has a worse PC then yours.

 

 

Im not going to stop playing without shadows

Well i guess if you want to deliberately gimp your game with lower graphics/performance nobody can stop you, but it kind of defeats your moral high ground that you are just doing this for FPS and that we are all rich f*ckers with high end hardware that came here to just bash you because you are poor.

 

 

 

And the funny thing is that most of all the butthurt people complaining about my guide have high end rigs with no issue running the game

If you dont need to do this to get better fps then why the f*ck are you reading it and sh*tposting?

 

Who said that i dont want to improve my fps ? I personally came here because i thought this was an actual fix (on par with turning advanced settings off, or turning the grass to high) something that has negligible graphical difference but provides a massive boost, so i can boost my frames when playing in 4k

And to finish up, the staw-manning and your whole attitude and ignoring the facts that are submited before you, just proves that you are kid with a huge ego that just wont admit that he is wrong.

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Im not replying to any more comments

If you dont like this method then dont do it dont post

If you do like this method then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad then dont do it dont post

If you dont mind it looking bad then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad compared to consoles then dont do it dont post

If you dont care if it looks bad compared to consoles then do it and do post

If you think your better off playing on console then pay $400-$500 and rebuy the game and pay a subscription fee to play online

If you dont want to play on consoles since you already bought the game on pc then play it on pc

TBH i could play it nicer looking than that and consoles for 500 bucks. if i had to play with those crap graphics, I'll go to consoles. And i don't like consoles. You can't accept criticism, you are just in denial that there is another method that makes it look better plus have a better FPS than this.

HERES A BETTER METHOD, TURN DOWN THE TEXTURES AND WATER QUALITY, AND HAVE A GOOD PLAYABLE FPS. WITH SHADOWS. EASY.

Sorry, comic sans epic :DDD

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Im not replying to any more comments

If you dont like this method then dont do it dont post

If you do like this method then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad then dont do it dont post

If you dont mind it looking bad then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad compared to consoles then dont do it dont post

If you dont care if it looks bad compared to consoles then do it and do post

If you think your better off playing on console then pay $400-$500 and rebuy the game and pay a subscription fee to play online

If you dont want to play on consoles since you already bought the game on pc then play it on pc

TBH i could play it nicer looking than that and consoles for 500 bucks. if i had to play with those crap graphics, I'll go to consoles. And i don't like consoles. You can't accept criticism, you are just in denial that there is another method that makes it look better plus have a better FPS than this.

HERES A BETTER METHOD, TURN DOWN THE TEXTURES AND WATER QUALITY, AND HAVE A GOOD PLAYABLE FPS. WITH SHADOWS. EASY.

Sorry, comic sans epic :DDD

 

 

Very high textures no shadows

 

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Very high textures with shadows

 

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Normal Textures no shadows

 

 

34f2fe5851.jpg

 

 

Normal Textures with shadows

 

 

5abb4aec72.jpg

 

Textures do not affect fps

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Im not replying to any more comments

If you dont like this method then dont do it dont post

If you do like this method then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad then dont do it dont post

If you dont mind it looking bad then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad compared to consoles then dont do it dont post

If you dont care if it looks bad compared to consoles then do it and do post

If you think your better off playing on console then pay $400-$500 and rebuy the game and pay a subscription fee to play online

If you dont want to play on consoles since you already bought the game on pc then play it on pc

TBH i could play it nicer looking than that and consoles for 500 bucks. if i had to play with those crap graphics, I'll go to consoles. And i don't like consoles. You can't accept criticism, you are just in denial that there is another method that makes it look better plus have a better FPS than this.

HERES A BETTER METHOD, TURN DOWN THE TEXTURES AND WATER QUALITY, AND HAVE A GOOD PLAYABLE FPS. WITH SHADOWS. EASY.

Sorry, comic sans epic :DDD

 

 

Very high textures no shadows

 

43b61ffac5.jpg

 

 

Very high textures with shadows

 

ebe5c1e7dd.jpg

 

 

Normal Textures no shadows

 

 

34f2fe5851.jpg

 

 

Normal Textures with shadows

 

 

5abb4aec72.jpg

 

Textures do not affect fps

 

post a video of you actually going to menus showing that its the same fps on v.high and normal because this post reeks bullsh*t, its not physically possible to get same fps on very high and normal -.-

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Im not replying to any more comments

If you dont like this method then dont do it dont post

If you do like this method then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad then dont do it dont post

If you dont mind it looking bad then do it and do post

If you think it looks bad compared to consoles then dont do it dont post

If you dont care if it looks bad compared to consoles then do it and do post

If you think your better off playing on console then pay $400-$500 and rebuy the game and pay a subscription fee to play online

If you dont want to play on consoles since you already bought the game on pc then play it on pc

TBH i could play it nicer looking than that and consoles for 500 bucks. if i had to play with those crap graphics, I'll go to consoles. And i don't like consoles. You can't accept criticism, you are just in denial that there is another method that makes it look better plus have a better FPS than this.

HERES A BETTER METHOD, TURN DOWN THE TEXTURES AND WATER QUALITY, AND HAVE A GOOD PLAYABLE FPS. WITH SHADOWS. EASY.

Sorry, comic sans epic :DDD

 

Very high textures no shadows

 

43b61ffac5.jpg

 

 

Very high textures with shadows

 

ebe5c1e7dd.jpg

 

 

Normal Textures no shadows

 

 

34f2fe5851.jpg

 

 

Normal Textures with shadows

 

 

5abb4aec72.jpg

 

Textures do not affect fps

post a video of you actually going to menus showing that its the same fps on v.high and normal because this post reeks bullsh*t, its not physically possible to get same fps on very high and normal -.-If looking at the sky, it is possible. But once looking down and moving its a nightmare on his card.
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It's funny how many people here have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. It'd take too much time to correct every bullsh*t post, but let me just correct the very common mistake people here make: texture quality does NOT have a big impact on frame rate. Textures eat up a lot of VRAM, but that doesn't mean low fps. It means you'll get stuttering if you're going over the limit the game itself recommends. Having high resolution textures loaded does not lower your fps if your GPU has sufficient VRAM. Also, from personal experience, water quality makes very little difference in how the game runs.

 

On topic: OP has found a great method for people with older computers to use. People who'd prefer 20 fps but with prettier graphics don't appreciate gameplay as much as eye candy, something often referred to as graphics whores. Pay no attention to these idiots.

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All of you cussing over the missing shadows and saying he should get a console are completely missing the point.

You see, the OP will have his PC GTA experience improve over time. Game patches, optimisation mods and new computer parts will all contribute to it getting better, for years to come. How is he going to make it better by splashing out on a new console (plus game) and then the only upgrade he can add is by buying a new TV? In one or two years his pc version will probably look better than your console version.

Just sayin'.

'Sides, the point here is that not everyone can afford to have a top of the line PC, especially those from developing countries where access to such hardware is relatively limited.

 

Tell you what, not only that these "peasant" or "master race" jokes are getting old, they're childish and condescending as well. As much as I prefer gaming on the PC and looking down on kids on XBL who should know better, I'd rather view this as a "to each his own" kind of thing.

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It's funny how many people here have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. It'd take too much time to correct every bullsh*t post, but let me just correct the very common mistake people here make: texture quality does NOT have a big impact on frame rate. Textures eat up a lot of VRAM, but that doesn't mean low fps. It means you'll get stuttering if you're going over the limit the game itself recommends. Having high resolution textures loaded does not lower your fps if your GPU has sufficient VRAM. Also, from personal experience, water quality makes very little difference in how the game runs.

 

On topic: OP has found a great method for people with older computers to use. People who'd prefer 20 fps but with prettier graphics don't appreciate gameplay as much as eye candy, something often referred to as graphics whores. Pay no attention to these idiots.

Definition of idiot: A stupid, mentally handicapped person. We are not idiots so use your words well. High textures do affect FPS if you have especially a lower end card. They can't load the textures fast enough.

 

EDIT: Okay done more research, my bad. Very High textures vs normal textures: 1fps difference LOL my bad.

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It's funny how many people here have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. It'd take too much time to correct every bullsh*t post, but let me just correct the very common mistake people here make: texture quality does NOT have a big impact on frame rate. Textures eat up a lot of VRAM, but that doesn't mean low fps. It means you'll get stuttering if you're going over the limit the game itself recommends. Having high resolution textures loaded does not lower your fps if your GPU has sufficient VRAM. Also, from personal experience, water quality makes very little difference in how the game runs.

 

On topic: OP has found a great method for people with older computers to use. People who'd prefer 20 fps but with prettier graphics don't appreciate gameplay as much as eye candy, something often referred to as graphics whores. Pay no attention to these idiots.

Definition of idiot: A stupid, mentally handicapped person. We are not idiots so use your words well. High textures do affect FPS if you have especially a lower end card. They can't load the textures fast enough.

 

EDIT: Okay done more research, my bad. Very High textures vs normal textures: 1fps difference LOL my bad.

 

 

There are 3 GT 630 in the market. From the looks of it, considering OP have 1 GB VRAM, that leaves the choice to 2, the GDDR5 version and the god-awful DDR3.

 

DDR3 atrocious bandwidth for graphics can be a particular bottleneck on Very High textures. So even though it might not fill the VRAM, but it do clog up the memory bus, resulting in either stutters, frame drops, or pop-ins. Symptoms should be similar to running out of VRAM.

It's funny how many people here have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. It'd take too much time to correct every bullsh*t post, but let me just correct the very common mistake people here make: texture quality does NOT have a big impact on frame rate. Textures eat up a lot of VRAM, but that doesn't mean low fps. It means you'll get stuttering if you're going over the limit the game itself recommends. Having high resolution textures loaded does not lower your fps if your GPU has sufficient VRAM. Also, from personal experience, water quality makes very little difference in how the game runs.

 

On topic: OP has found a great method for people with older computers to use. People who'd prefer 20 fps but with prettier graphics don't appreciate gameplay as much as eye candy, something often referred to as graphics whores. Pay no attention to these idiots.

 

Please note that if your PC can't run V without shadows, then it's time to upgrade. Robin's GT 610 can get 20-30 FPS with all settings on normal, with shadows ON.

 

Unlike IV where shadows are a huge hog, in V it's not a big hog at all. Like I said above, texture quality affects FPS not from GPU core, but from memory bus. Very High textures are huge chunks of data about to be cramped in a small memory bus of DDR3.

 

I admit I've been rough to OP, but the way OP suggests drastic measures simply don't make sense to me. First thing people gotta do when a game doesn't run as hoped, are to drop the resolution. Like I said, most bottom-end GPUs are not bottlenecked by their GPU cores, but by their memory subsystem. And higher resolution demands bigger bandwidth and faster pixel fill rate.

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i wonder how page 2 and 3 of this thread looks like.

 

this thread is not called "i have a crappy pc" its called "how low can it go".

 

yes it looks crappy, yes it would look better everywhere else,but if he would get it to run on a calculator, would you still miss the point and say, yeah whatever, thats crappy, get a console?

 

i would say, lets start a competition, the slowest rig with the most fps wins.

 

 

 

how about DRAW DISTANCE? is it editable in the files?

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Please note that if your PC can't run V without shadows, then it's time to upgrade. Robin's GT 610 can get 20-30 FPS with all settings on normal, with shadows ON.

 

Unlike IV where shadows are a huge hog, in V it's not a big hog at all. Like I said above, texture quality affects FPS not from GPU core, but from memory bus. Very High textures are huge chunks of data about to be cramped in a small memory bus of DDR3.

 

I admit I've been rough to OP, but the way OP suggests drastic measures simply don't make sense to me. First thing people gotta do when a game doesn't run as hoped, are to drop the resolution. Like I said, most bottom-end GPUs are not bottlenecked by their GPU cores, but by their memory subsystem. And higher resolution demands bigger bandwidth and faster pixel fill rate.

 

I guess it just depends what you're willing to sacrifice first. I'd rather turn down (or off) the shadows instead of lowering my resolution, it just bugs me so much more than having no shadows, even though the lack of shadows makes the game look pretty funny too. Luckily I don't have a problem running it with shadows on the highest setting, but back on my old PC I was completely used to playing GTAIV without shadows. It helped that the shadows in that game were ugly as sin, though.

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Please note that if your PC can't run V without shadows, then it's time to upgrade. Robin's GT 610 can get 20-30 FPS with all settings on normal, with shadows ON.

 

Unlike IV where shadows are a huge hog, in V it's not a big hog at all. Like I said above, texture quality affects FPS not from GPU core, but from memory bus. Very High textures are huge chunks of data about to be cramped in a small memory bus of DDR3.

 

I admit I've been rough to OP, but the way OP suggests drastic measures simply don't make sense to me. First thing people gotta do when a game doesn't run as hoped, are to drop the resolution. Like I said, most bottom-end GPUs are not bottlenecked by their GPU cores, but by their memory subsystem. And higher resolution demands bigger bandwidth and faster pixel fill rate.

 

I guess it just depends what you're willing to sacrifice first. I'd rather turn down (or off) the shadows instead of lowering my resolution, it just bugs me so much more than having no shadows, even though the lack of shadows makes the game look pretty funny too. Luckily I don't have a problem running it with shadows on the highest setting, but back on my old PC I was completely used to playing GTAIV without shadows. It helped that the shadows in that game were ugly as sin, though.

 

 

1.0.7.0 shadows are decent though, much better than that dithered, console-like shadows of 1.0.4.0. But hey, I'm using High shadows in IV on my PC anyway.

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1.0.7.0 shadows are decent though, much better than that dithered, console-like shadows of 1.0.4.0. But hey, I'm using High shadows in IV on my PC anyway.

Shadows are decent, Yes. But frame rate on 1.0.7.0 was horrible.

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Texture quality and water quality does not affect FPS

 

u wot m8 ? texture quality is one of the biggest fps eaters as is water

 

 

You trippin' man. Texture quality mainly depends on your VRAM. If you have enough VRAM, the drop between normal and very high is not noticeable.

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If you are playing gta v pc that look this bad,you are better off with ps4/xbox one

Id rather be able to aim and mod and play online for free

 

Mastering both console & pc control is the best as each has its own advantages

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Wow people still going on about this,everyone knows he won't have the best experience including himself and people still feel the need to tell him that.Leave him alone.I get what you guys are saying GTA is not meant to be played like that but...

 

Those who are telling him to buy a ps4 are you assuming he has enough money to buy a ps4 and gta for it?He would have upgraded his PC if he had that money.

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That looks like crap, look someone needs to be blunt here.

If you cant afford a decent PC to play GTAV then maybe playing GTAV shouldn't be your priorities right now.

I don't know maybe ummm a hobbie such as...ummmmm work???Making money???

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Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)...

All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS.

 

Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS...

You should been fine with maxed settings 40fps

if you really want 60fps then turn down grass a little bit

 

40 fps on GTA V PC Fine?How ignorant are you?Any pc games should be able to run at least 60fps or it defeats the whole purpose of playing games on pc,still think consoles will suit you better,btw a gtx 970 should net you more than 60 frames

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Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)...

All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS.

 

Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS...

You should been fine with maxed settings 40fps

if you really want 60fps then turn down grass a little bit

 

40 fps on GTA V PC Fine?How ignorant are you?Any pc games should be able to run at least 60fps or it defeats the whole purpose of playing games on pc,still think consoles will suit you better,btw a gtx 970 should net you more than 60 frames

 

 

The whole purpose of playing games on a pc is the freedom of choice, and mods. Graphics and fps are an added bonus, if you are willing to pay for that of course. Since when does 30fps defeat the purpose of playing on pc? I can run the game nearly maxed out, 60+ fps and go back to my ps4 version which still looks pretty good compared to it, and have no problems adjusting.

 

How ignorant are you? PC gaming is not a fixed platform where everyone owns a titan x like some players like to think( shouting 4k 60fps master race lol). Some will play at settings better than the consoles, and some worst. There is no right way to be a pc gamer, and that's the reality of it.

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Wait. Are those pics of GTA San Andreas? :blink:

What kind of question is that lol

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Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)...

All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS.

 

Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS...

You should been fine with maxed settings 40fps

if you really want 60fps then turn down grass a little bit

 

40 fps on GTA V PC Fine?How ignorant are you?Any pc games should be able to run at least 60fps or it defeats the whole purpose of playing games on pc,still think consoles will suit you better,btw a gtx 970 should net you more than 60 framesf*ck off, master racer. It is fine. How ignorant are you?
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