MWC Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Lol at those rich elitists. If they would hear about minecraft they'd have a heart attack. Good job for finding this, it might help me. Look at the poor peasants, blaming us for their problems. FYI my PC is about as low end as it gets. I just know how to maintain it well enough so that I don't have to nerf the graphics too hard in order to get 60 FPS. and to add to the argument OP's pc is fine, the only problem is his graphics card If he were to get something like a r9 270x for ~150$ (https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?page=1&q=r9%20270x) he could get a stable 60 fps on high if he wanted to go further he could get something like an r9 290 for ~250$ (https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?cc=us&q=r9+290) and with a little oc to his CPU he would be set not only for gta but for all the games in at least the next few years before having to upgrade anything, and all of this for only a fraction of what a PS4 costs Edited May 4, 2015 by MWC tooldc4205 and Kaito Katsumi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMF Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 All you haters just shut the hell up. GTA IV was optimized way worse. The OP wanted to play the game, but does not have the cash to build or buy a new PC with modern specs. You don't f*cking like it? Go f*ck yourselves. I am sure the OP wishes he had a better machine. Congrats to him for being able to play the game on what he has. vecuccio, Kaito Katsumi, thinkingbear and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWC Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) All you haters just shut the hell up. GTA IV was optimized way worse. The OP wanted to play the game, but does not have the cash to build or buy a new PC with modern specs. You don't f*cking like it? Go f*ck yourselves. I am sure the OP wishes he had a better machine. Congrats to him for being able to play the game on what he has. its not the problem that he doesnt have cash for new hardware, the problem is that for sake of having very high textures and water he turned off shadows which makes it look like an N64 game, if he had just used normal settings he would still have similar fps but the game would look much better, and if you dont believe me look at this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVrFJyWKoa8) this is a guy with a worse rig then op running mostly normal settings running the game at 50-60fps, now compare that video and the screenshots op posted and tell me his screenshots look better @OP: Stop being butthurt and accept it looks and runs better on regular normal settings then with your "fix", and dont sh*t to me about money, i earn about 400$ a month, when i buy upgrades i always take a credit and pay monthly, last time i upgraded i bought a r9 290x on credit for 2 years, i ended up paying about 20-30 euros each month for it and i still run everything on max, even if u live in the sh*ttiest country in the world (couldnt be more sh*t then mine) dont tell me u cant spend 1 euro a day for a graphics card which is still top end, but by your whole attitude i can assume u are just a kid without a job... Edited May 4, 2015 by MWC Kampret and Le Dude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Hat Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Well, this proves how important shadows are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayd80 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Reminds me of San Andreas xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicboh0413 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Why would you trade 20-35fps with proper graphics to 35-60fps in these conditions? If you turn the graphics high, You are an idiot, Low graphics looks the same, Only resolution is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipCRO Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)... All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS. Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDong Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)... All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS. Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS... You should been fine with maxed settings 40fps if you really want 60fps then turn down grass a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampret Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Reminds me of San Andreas xD Even then SA still have shadows. RedIndianRobin and Shayd80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisFormed Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) He's not even seeing very high textures if he's not running 1080p. High is the highest you will see unless you zoom in very close to the point that the texture quality degrades because you're seeing it too close, basically. Anyone will 1080p screen can switch to high textures, take a screenshot at ANY lower res, switch back to very high tex, take a screenshot at that same "any lower res" than 1080p and compare it to the very high and high at 1080p again, and see this is a fact. The nature of 3D is such that you need screenspace to display large textures. Very High Textures "only just make it" on 1080 and look better the higher you go from there, and do not display in 99% cases you can compare at screen resolutions lower. For this reason, if you're playing on very high textures at lower than 1080p (like 720p for example), you're better off dedicating that vram to other things, like msaa which will run good on lower resolutions and you will probably have a better time because a low res needs msaa way more than it needs larger textures (that are mipped out and unseen 99% of the time on lower than 1080p anyway). Edited May 4, 2015 by CrisFormed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirtel Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) If you got a overall mediocre/weak GPU,then you're even better off getting textures on very high than pushing other settings further. I did some benchmarking on my old machine with gpu that has 2 gigs of VRAM, close to none framerate difference when comes to normal->very high texture quality, so why wouldn't I just leave it be ? Not to use spare VRAM I use for basically nothing else ? Any kind of anti-aliasing is just a killer for mid-range GPUs, even setting it at 2x will kill the performance for most of mid-spec cards, no matter the game. I feel like testing this one out, I hope to get somewhere close to 40-50fps at 720p instead of 1024x768 32-40. It's still better than 30fps-locked consoles anyway. Edited May 5, 2015 by tirtel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDong Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Reminds me of San Andreas xD Even then SA still have shadows. Why are you still complaining about this Why does this make you so mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisFormed Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) YMMV and different strokes. I think you will get that 40-50 easier with Very High textures though. Especially targeting 720p. It's going to make a difference in your situation. By backing off the very high to high textures, you're going to basically be making no visually apparent differences in most cases, and you're going to unlock a lot of bandwidth on your card. Now you will be able to turn some stuff up. At 720p, you can turn down a lot and not even notice it was turned down - this can get you to a better option of AA without noticing or losing as much FPS, or it can let you turn up the grass maybe to very high (not ultra). The texture sizes have more impact than it seems. The benchmarks we've seen are using cards that are no problem and handling it fine, but at lower res, you do not see them, and if you are resolution bound as it is, you are in a situation where texture sizes indeed do make a difference. I am going to try to make a config for you to try, willing to paste into your settings.xml to see if I can nail it? Gimme your specs tirtel, I will try to give you a good starting point, and tell me what the game says is your MB in vram, too, not just the card's rated size. I will tell you also that 30fps is going to play and feel smoother than "constantly fluctuating 40-50 fps", and come with the added benefit you will be able to do some high MSAA and high settings - might even squeekturd some ultra grass. Who knows? Tell me your specs and reported vram according to the game. I'll give 2 or 3 configs to paste and try with both 60fps target and 30fps target. Edited May 5, 2015 by CrisFormed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIndianRobin Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 OP you have a GT 630. I'm not trying to be an ass but you're trying to get 60fps on a card which is humanly impossible. Turning off the shadows just to get 60fps is just not a good way to go. If you want fps, then get a good rig. I'm having a crappier card than yours, a GT 610 and I'm more than happy running the game with shadows at 20-30fps. Kampret and Kaito Katsumi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDong Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 OP you have a GT 630. I'm not trying to be an ass but you're trying to get 60fps on a card which is humanly impossible. Turning off the shadows just to get 60fps is just not a good way to go. If you want fps, then get a good rig. I'm having a crappier card than yours, a GT 610 and I'm more than happy running the game with shadows at 20-30fps. Well too bad im still going to play without shadows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyngsur Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)... All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS. Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS... Turn the grass quality to High its like ZERO diffrence from high to very high! but you will gain like 10-15 fps somehow. From high to ultra you got shadows on the grass but it cost sh*tloads of FPS. You dont need to buy a new graphic card yet buy 8GB Ram more and ur fine. Just lower the grass quality to High! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampret Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Reminds me of San Andreas xD Even then SA still have shadows. Why are you still complaining about this Why does this make you so mad? I'm not even complaining. Just because to me, making a 2015 game to look far worse than a 2004 game just to get 60 FPS (it's not even sustaining 60), is simply... odd (notice how I'm trying so hard to not insult you?). Shayd80, Kaito Katsumi and RedIndianRobin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Dude Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Reminds me of San Andreas xD Even then SA still have shadows. Yeah that's a pretty bad example... San Andreas' shadows are unoptimized as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikhung Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I like it. Don't listen to the newbs. Low end PC without shadows >>>>>>> console peasants. It begins. Kaito Katsumi, bravemanray7 and Kampret 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaito Katsumi Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 OP you have a GT 630. I'm not trying to be an ass but you're trying to get 60fps on a card which is humanly impossible. Turning off the shadows just to get 60fps is just not a good way to go. If you want fps, then get a good rig. I'm having a crappier card than yours, a GT 610 and I'm more than happy running the game with shadows at 20-30fps. Bro, let him be. If we can't help everyone have fun the best way, we'll enjoy it the best way we can ourselves. RedIndianRobin and Kampret 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaito Katsumi Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 OP you have a GT 630. I'm not trying to be an ass but you're trying to get 60fps on a card which is humanly impossible. Turning off the shadows just to get 60fps is just not a good way to go. If you want fps, then get a good rig. I'm having a crappier card than yours, a GT 610 and I'm more than happy running the game with shadows at 20-30fps. Well too bad im still going to play without shadowsnot trying to judge, you're the first person that doesn't want his game to look good, that i have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipCRO Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)... All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS. Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS... Turn the grass quality to High its like ZERO diffrence from high to very high! but you will gain like 10-15 fps somehow. From high to ultra you got shadows on the grass but it cost sh*tloads of FPS. You dont need to buy a new graphic card yet buy 8GB Ram more and ur fine. Just lower the grass quality to High! Yes, but then again, I would like to play with MSAA 2x on and FXAA off, and maybe put my resolution to 1440p (thats the reason I want to buy the GTX 980 Ti). You dont need 16 GB ram for this game, I have 8 and my RAM usage during gameplay never goes higher than 6500MB (6,5 GB) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMF Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I too have noticed my ram usage never approaches what I have....usage is 5-6GB on my machine and I have only 8GB. I also decided to set my textures on Very High , then on all my other settings creeping them up to my max vram which is 2048. Sure this means I cannot run all my other settings on ultra, or on some cases even very high, but with my texture quality set at Very High, it looks great, and since my machine has enough horsepower, so to speak, it runs smoothly. Personally, if all I could get was 30fps with shadows ON, I would be fine with that, if it was all my machine could handle. One of the major points of this game is superior graphics.....turning it back to a game that looks like something out of 2004 seems kind of ridiculous. Is your eye going to notice a major difference between 30fps and 60fps? I don't think so. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWC Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Guys, hear me out. My rig is: i5 4690k @ 4,2 GHz, 8 GB RAM 1866 MHz and a GTX 970 (slightly overclocked)... All my settings are maxed out in 1080p (grass quality @ Very High, MSAA off, only FXAA). I play at locked 40 FPS. Will I see a good performance boost if I get a GTX 980 Ti 6 GB VRAM when it comes out next month? I want to play at least at 45 FPS... Turn the grass quality to High its like ZERO diffrence from high to very high! but you will gain like 10-15 fps somehow. From high to ultra you got shadows on the grass but it cost sh*tloads of FPS. You dont need to buy a new graphic card yet buy 8GB Ram more and ur fine. Just lower the grass quality to High! Yes, but then again, I would like to play with MSAA 2x on and FXAA off, and maybe put my resolution to 1440p (thats the reason I want to buy the GTX 980 Ti). You dont need 16 GB ram for this game, I have 8 and my RAM usage during gameplay never goes higher than 6500MB (6,5 GB) ! Do u have advanced settings turned on ? I have found that those are meant for monster cards and turning them all off got me 20-30 fps easily with almost unnoticable difference in quality, pozdrav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDong Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Reminds me of San Andreas xD Even then SA still have shadows. Why are you still complaining about this Why does this make you so mad? I'm not even complaining. Just because to me, making a 2015 game to look far worse than a 2004 game just to get 60 FPS (it's not even sustaining 60), is simply... odd (notice how I'm trying so hard to not insult you?). I like my FPS im not a graphics whore I like being able to play a game i dont care how it looks if i can play it ill play it like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWC Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not a graphics whore, turns off shadow so he can get v.high textures and water, seems legit BTW guys we are on reddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/34sz8i/posted_a_guide_on_how_to_turn_off_shadows_in_gta/ iRideIndependent, Kampret and RedIndianRobin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Good job OP, works great and I can actually play decently now. (BTW I own the ps3 & ps4 versions, but playing with a KB/M just feels so much more natural and better for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDong Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not a graphics whore, turns off shadow so he can get v.high textures and water, seems legit BTW guys we are on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/34sz8i/posted_a_guide_on_how_to_turn_off_shadows_in_gta/ This post was not made so people can bitch about people not having good rigs It was made to help people who dont have high end rigs so you can stop your bitching and leave this thread since you have no problem running this game. Bitching about how bad it looks isnt going to stop people from doing it Texture quality and water quality does not affect FPS I turned off shadows to get FPS are you not able to read? or did you come in look at the pictures and start bitching? You might aswell save your time and stop posting here completely because im not going to remove this post Im not going to stop playing without shadows I know shadows makes it look better but again like i said so many times I LIKE MY FPS And the funny thing is that most of all the butthurt people complaining about my guide have high end rigs with no issue running the game If you dont need to do this to get better fps then why the f*ck are you reading it and sh*tposting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampret Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not a graphics whore, turns off shadow so he can get v.high textures and water, seems legit BTW guys we are on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/34sz8i/posted_a_guide_on_how_to_turn_off_shadows_in_gta/ Made an account just to clarify things there. OP there made the pic a source of misunderstanding. Not a graphics whore, turns off shadow so he can get v.high textures and water, seems legit BTW guys we are on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/34sz8i/posted_a_guide_on_how_to_turn_off_shadows_in_gta/ This post was not made so people can bitch about people not having good rigs It was made to help people who dont have high end rigs so you can stop your bitching and leave this thread since you have no problem running this game. Bitching about how bad it looks isnt going to stop people from doing it Texture quality and water quality does not affect FPS I turned off shadows to get FPS are you not able to read? or did you come in look at the pictures and start bitching? You might aswell save your time and stop posting here completely because im not going to remove this post Im not going to stop playing without shadows I know shadows makes it look better but again like i said so many times I LIKE MY FPS And the funny thing is that most of all the butthurt people complaining about my guide have high end rigs with no issue running the game If you dont need to do this to get better fps then why the f*ck are you reading it and sh*tposting? There's so many things wrong about this post. Texture and water quality affects FPS more than shadows do. Even at 720p High and normal were pretty much indistinguishable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDong Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not a graphics whore, turns off shadow so he can get v.high textures and water, seems legit BTW guys we are on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/34sz8i/posted_a_guide_on_how_to_turn_off_shadows_in_gta/ Made an account just to clarify things there. OP there made the pic a source of misunderstanding. Not a graphics whore, turns off shadow so he can get v.high textures and water, seems legit BTW guys we are on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/34sz8i/posted_a_guide_on_how_to_turn_off_shadows_in_gta/ This post was not made so people can bitch about people not having good rigs It was made to help people who dont have high end rigs so you can stop your bitching and leave this thread since you have no problem running this game. Bitching about how bad it looks isnt going to stop people from doing it Texture quality and water quality does not affect FPS I turned off shadows to get FPS are you not able to read? or did you come in look at the pictures and start bitching? You might aswell save your time and stop posting here completely because im not going to remove this post Im not going to stop playing without shadows I know shadows makes it look better but again like i said so many times I LIKE MY FPS And the funny thing is that most of all the butthurt people complaining about my guide have high end rigs with no issue running the game If you dont need to do this to get better fps then why the f*ck are you reading it and sh*tposting? There's so many things wrong about this post. Texture and water quality affects FPS more than shadows do. Even at 720p High and normal were pretty much indistinguishable. Very high textures no shadows Very high textures with shadows Normal Textures no shadows Normal Textures with shadows Textures do not affect fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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