Please help me building a new pc!

[DS12]

Hey guys,

 

I currently own:

 

CPU : Intel core 2 quad 8300 2.5ghz

Graphics card: Nvidia gts 250 1gb

Motherboard : Asus P5K

RAM : 4gb

HDD : 2tb seagate

Monitor : CRT (LOL. I knw its old, but will upgrade)

PSU : Intex 450W

 

I know GTA wont be playable on this system except at medium settings. But I want to play at very high-ultra.

 

So, I am planning to upgrade to:

 

CPU : AMD FX 8350 Black edition/ Intel i5 or i7

Graphics Card : Sapphire r9 270x 4gb OC edition

RAM : 8 or 16 gb

Motherboard : Asus m5a99x evo r2.0

PSU : Will 650W be enough?

 

Maybe will buy an ssd if the budget permits.

Will I be able to play without any lags or stuttering in the to be purchased sytem?

What else should I upgrade?

Also where can I sell my old pc parts and gain a good amount ? I stay in Mumbai, India if that helps.

My budget is approx. Rs. 40000 or $600.

Also please suggest a good gaming monitor.

Thanks !!!

Edited May 3, 2015 by DS12

[Kampret]

Stay with 8GB for now. You're fine with that upgrade plan. 270X can play the game at least at PS4's quality at a higher frame rate. Good luck!

 

EDIT: If you're on a budget and not that much of a competitive player, get a commodity 1080p display. Gaming displays costs tons of money and generally it doesn't improve that much compared to a regular commodity displays.

Edited May 2, 2015 by Kampret

[ThunderBanana]

That seems pretty decent, you should be able to push a mix of High and Very High (Very High is this game's Ultra setting) at 1080p. 8GB is more than enough for gaming, past that you'll start to get diminishing returns. 1080p monitors are still pretty expensive (up to $300), but you can probably find a decent used one for a budget build. You're probably gonna want at least a 23.5" monitor.

Otherwise whichever one you already have will probably work fine. I'm still using an old 5:4 monitor to play on

[Kampret]

That seems pretty decent, you should be able to push a mix of High and Very High (Very High is this game's Ultra setting) at 1080p. 8GB is more than enough for gaming, past that you'll start to get diminishing returns. 1080p monitors are still pretty expensive (up to $300), but you can probably find a decent used one for a budget build. You're probably gonna want at least a 23.5" monitor.

Otherwise whichever one you already have will probably work fine. I'm still using an old 5:4 monitor to play on

 

Hell no. A 22" 1080p display only costs less than $160. 1080p displays are dirt cheap right now, unless you purchase one of those gimmicky "gaming" monitors. While 144 Hz is not a gimmick, its other unnecessary features are.

[ThunderBanana]

 

 

 

 

 

That seems pretty decent, you should be able to push a mix of High and Very High (Very High is this game's Ultra setting) at 1080p. 8GB is more than enough for gaming, past that you'll start to get diminishing returns. 1080p monitors are still pretty expensive (up to $300), but you can probably find a decent used one for a budget build. You're probably gonna want at least a 23.5" monitor.

Otherwise whichever one you already have will probably work fine. I'm still using an old 5:4 monitor to play on

 

Hell no. A 22" 1080p display only costs less than $160. 1080p displays are dirt cheap right now, unless you purchase one of those gimmicky "gaming" monitors. While 144 Hz is not a gimmick, its other unnecessary features are.

 

All the ones I can find new start at $190+. I'm looking on Newegg though, that's probably my problem lol.

 

EDIT: Ah, I see your point. My apologies.

I guess Newegg doesn't have those awesome discounts that they used to

Edited May 2, 2015 by ThunderBanana

[Cforumlbgfeva]

do what I did except for the gpu lol

 

i7 4790k

msi z97 atx motherboard

eva gtx 580 super clocked *will upgrade in the future*

deep cool atx case with 5 total fans, 2 led fans

6 gigs ram *will upgrade in the future*

750 what psu

120 gig ssd for your windows and gta v

1 tb extra harddrive for your extra stuff

[DS12]

i7 will cost me 9k rupees more. If possible, then some other options within that budget would be great

Also, is 144hz monitor good or should I stick to 60hz?

And where can I sell my old pc parts for a good price?

[Cforumlbgfeva]

i7 will cost me 9k rupees more. If possible, then some other options within that budget would be great

Also, is 144hz monitor good or should I stick to 60hz?

And where can I sell my old pc parts for a good price?

 

trust me the i7 is worth it more.

 

I'm getting gta v next month.

 

I just did a practice test of gta 4 eflc on my 1tb hard drive. At everything at maximum settings, I'm getting 50 fps average. With this piece of unoptimized peice of trash they called a pc game lol.

 

I'm sure gta v will run beautifuly when I get it and use it on my ssd.

 

I was using an old gtx 580 super clocked.

 

I tested a gtx 760 on my old i3 *last computer* with gta 4 and only got 30 fps average -_-.

 

trust me it's better to get the i7 4790k 4ghz if you can. It's fast and won't burn up the electricity bill lol

[DS12]

Are you saying that the fx 8350 won't run the game properly?

If I get the i7, I'll have to compromise on either the monitor or an ssd

[Cforumlbgfeva]

Are you saying that the fx 8350 won't run the game properly?

If I get the i7, I'll have to compromise on either the monitor or an ssd

 

i'm still using my old 1280x720p monitor. I'll change it in the future.

 

I'm not saying the fx 8350 won't run the game properly. I'm saying it's better to use the extra money on the i7 4790k because it'll run it much better.

 

i'm not dissing amd.

[Kampret]

 

Are you saying that the fx 8350 won't run the game properly?

If I get the i7, I'll have to compromise on either the monitor or an ssd

 

i'm still using my old 1280x720p monitor. I'll change it in the future.

 

I'm not saying the fx 8350 won't run the game properly. I'm saying it's better to use the extra money on the i7 4790k because it'll run it much better.

 

i'm not dissing amd.

 

 

With OP's future GPU, a 4790K wouldn't make much of a difference compared to a 8350. Unless OP wants to get something like a 290 or 970 above.

[Cforumlbgfeva]

 

Are you saying that the fx 8350 won't run the game properly?

If I get the i7, I'll have to compromise on either the monitor or an ssd

 

i'm still using my old 1280x720p monitor. I'll change it in the future.

 

I'm not saying the fx 8350 won't run the game properly. I'm saying it's better to use the extra money on the i7 4790k because it'll run it much better.

 

i'm not dissing amd.

 

 

 

install your windows on the ssd.

 

I'm using a 120 gig ssd for my windows 7 and room for gta v when I get gta v.

 

my 1tb hard drive is just for my extra stuff

[DS12]

I read it somewhere that 8350 was a bottleneck for r9 290, so going for r9 270x

[Cforumlbgfeva]

I read it somewhere that 8350 was a bottleneck for r9 290, so going for r9 270x

 

it's better to save up for something better so you won't have to worry about bottleneck issues

 

I read it somewhere that 8350 was a bottleneck for r9 290, so going for r9 270x

 

it's better to save up for something better so you won't have to worry about bottleneck issues

 

I don't plan on over clocking, which is another reason I just went with a i7 4790k

[swirler]

I don't plan on over clocking, which is another reason I just went with a i7 4790k

That would be a reason not to pay a premium for the K version.

 

 

OP you need to factor in the new mobo and psu cost before you get carried away with overspending on the other parts. Both the cpu & gpu youre currently looking at are more power hungry than what you have atm, you should be mindful of this.

 

The Devils canyon chip is without a doubt better, but strictly speaking for gaming, the gap isn't as big (title dependant) between the i7 being discussed and the one you said you were thinking about in OP. If I was going to encourage you to spend more on an Intel, it would have as much to do with keeping the power down than anything else.

 

8gb is enough for gaming, if you are on a budget. Same story about a monitor, a 60Hz 1080p is fine and it'll be a nice upgrade from your CRT (unless you have a spectacular one).

[Andreaz1]

I don't plan on over clocking, which is another reason I just went with a i7 4790k

You don't plan on overclocking so you went for the one (almost) CPU that is pretty much made for overclocking?

 

An i7 would be complete overkill and make hardly any difference for gaming in general.

 

An AMD FX-83XX would play the game fine however jumping to an i5 would give you better performance and arguably be more future proof. For strictly GTA V though, the difference isn't massive. Here are some benchmarks.

[DS12]

 

I don't plan on over clocking, which is another reason I just went with a i7 4790k

You don't plan on overclocking so you went for the one (almost) CPU that is pretty much made for overclocking?

 

An i7 would be complete overkill and make hardly any difference for gaming in general.

 

An AMD FX-83XX would play the game fine however jumping to an i5 would give you better performance and arguably be more future proof. For strictly GTA V though, the difference isn't massive. Here are some benchmarks.

 

But, wouldn't having an octa core be more better than a quad core?

[Andreaz1]

A lot of people would think so, but CPU's are so much more complicated than just core count and clock speeds. I won't pretend to know much about them but the bottom line is that Intel CPU's have so much better performance per each core than AMD ones. They are also more power efficient and hence produce less heat. There is a reason they are so much more expensive. There are very specific circumstances where raw core count matters a lot and AMD's are a bit faster, but gaming isn't one of them. The AM3+ AMD platform is also really old and being phased out soon.

Edited May 2, 2015 by Andreaz1

[DS12]

A lot of people would think so, but CPU's are so much more complicated than just core count and clock speeds. I won't pretend to know much about them but the bottom line is that Intel CPU's have so much better performance per each core than AMD ones. They are also more power efficient and hence produce less heat. There is a reason they are so much more expensive. There are very specific circumstances where raw core count matters a lot and AMD's are a bit faster, but gaming isn't one of them. The AM3+ AMD platform is also really old and being phased out soon.

Now you have confused me

So, what should I go for now?

Intel or AMD processor

By using intel processor over amd will my energy usage be less?

[yoječ]

Generally speaking yes, but not by a whole lot. Unless the energy is costly where you live I wouldn't even take it into account.

 

But still - Intel is a better buy in most cases. Hopefully AMD will get their sh*t together with their new CPU architecture in 2016.

[DS12]

Generally speaking yes, but not by a whole lot. Unless the energy is costly where you live I wouldn't even take it into account.

 

But still - Intel is a better buy in most cases. Hopefully AMD will get their sh*t together with their new CPU architecture in 2016.

So which processor should I go for in intel?

[yoječ]

I don't know the prices in your country, but $600 sounds like you'd be able to afford i3-4160 at best.

Edited May 2, 2015 by yojo2

[DS12]

I don't know the prices in your country, but $600 sounds like you'd be able to afford i3-4160 at best.

That is way too cheap. I can shell in more.

[Andreaz1]

You said in the first post that your budget is $600, and if you need motherboard, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM and a monitor the money will disappear fast. One tip would be to go to sites like Ebay or buy demo units. That could save you some money.

 

Do you have a case with proper airflow?

 

The lowest I can possibly go with a i5-4460-based machine is $688 and that's with a bunch of rebates that are probably not available in your country.

 

Looking at

video, you could go with a Pentium G3258 if you are comfortable with overclocking. Edited May 2, 2015 by Andreaz1

[DS12]

You said in the first post that your budget is $600, and if you need motherboard, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM and a monitor the money will disappear fast. One tip would be to go to sites like Ebay or buy demo units. That could save you some money.

 

Do you have a case with proper airflow?

 

The lowest I can possibly go with a i5-4460-based machine is $688 and that's with a bunch of rebates that are probably not available in your country.

 

Looking at

video, you could go with a Pentium G3258 if you are comfortable with overclocking.

I am planning to buy a new cabinet too. I might increase my budget if I am getting an intel.

[DS12]

So, I have finally decided to get an intel processor. Which one should I get-i5 or i7?

Also, will r9 270x 4gb edition go with it or should I go for something else?

[Kampret]

So, I have finally decided to get an intel processor. Which one should I get-i5 or i7?

Also, will r9 270x 4gb edition go with it or should I go for something else?

 

i5. If you're not planning on overclocking, get a 4460 or 4670.

[DS12]

 

So, I have finally decided to get an intel processor. Which one should I get-i5 or i7?

Also, will r9 270x 4gb edition go with it or should I go for something else?

 

i5. If you're not planning on overclocking, get a 4460 or 4670.

 

How about a 4670k?

Also, does overclocking damage anything?

[sivispacem]

Save some money on the mobo and CPU by going 4460 and non-enthusiast, spend it on a GTX970.

[DS12]

Save some money on the mobo and CPU by going 4460 and non-enthusiast, spend it on a GTX970.

But the benchmarks of 4670k are better than that of 4460.