New PC for GTA

[LastNomad]

So i was looking at getting GTA for the PC but my current set up is very old, i've seen some low end ones online but don't know much about graphics and processors so not sure how well or even if they would be any good for the game. I would only be ooking for mid level setting and am not really looking for a beast machine so the cheaper the better. Any advice or opions would be great

 

The 2 i've seen are:

 

Price: £345.95

Processor: AMD A10 6800K 4.4GHz turbo CPU (Includes Radeon HD 8670D APU graphics)

Graphics: AMD Radeon R7 250

Memory: 8GB DDR3

 

 

Site/full specs:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111499644617

 

Price: £419.99

Processor: AMD FX 4350 4.2GHz CPU

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti

Memory: 8GB DDR3

 

Site/full specs

http://www.cclonline.com/product/137788/NoMfgCode/All-CCL-Desktops/CCL-Elite-Hawk-IV-Gaming-PC/CCL-EL-HWK4/

[Gouveia]

What's your budget for a PC? I'm sure we can cook something better than those.

 

Also, I'd go with the second PC, to be honest.

Edited May 1, 2015 by Gouveia

[LastNomad]

Around the £400 mark but could go to £500 if it really need it.

[EvilFiend]

I know there are people that want to kill me for saying this but AMD is trash. It will never be better than intel. Their CPUs are sub par but their GPUs are ok

why not get a i5 4460 and a gtx780?
gigabyte mobo
ripjaws ddr3 ram @1866Mhz

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302&cm_re=i5_4460-_-19-117-302-_-Product

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487014&cm_re=gtx_780-_-14-487-014-_-Product

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128718&cm_re=H97M-D3H-_-13-128-718-_-Product

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231720&cm_re=ripjaws_ddr3_1866-_-20-231-720-_-Product

plus the power,fans, HDD,SSD nad case of your choice. Sorry not sure on the price in pounds

Edited May 1, 2015 by EvilFiend

[EvilFiend]

really thought this thread would get a lot more replies. Maybe there are more consolers playing on pre builts than anyone could have foretold

[r0llinlacs]

 

I know there are people that want to kill me for saying this but AMD is trash. It will never be better than intel. Their CPUs are sub par but their GPUs are ok

 

why not get a i5 4460 and a gtx780?

gigabyte mobo

ripjaws ddr3 ram @1866Mhz

 

CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302&cm_re=i5_4460-_-19-117-302-_-Product

 

GPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487014&cm_re=gtx_780-_-14-487-014-_-Product

 

Mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128718&cm_re=H97M-D3H-_-13-128-718-_-Product

 

RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231720&cm_re=ripjaws_ddr3_1866-_-20-231-720-_-Product

 

plus the power,fans, HDD,SSD nad case of your choice. Sorry not sure on the price in pounds

 

Lol that's going to a be a $800 build after HDD, PSU, optical drive, and case, wow. Intel won't work on a budget like that.

 

In dollars his budget is $600.

 

AMD build:

FX8320E 8-core CPU - $135

MSI 970 Gaming mobo - $84.99

DIYPC DIY-BJ03BK ATX Mid-Tower Case - $19.99

Antec EA550 60amp PSU - $65

2x 4gb HyperX Red Series DDR3 1600 RAM - $62

LG DVD R/W - $20

MSI R9 280 Gaming 3gb - $184

Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm Sata3 6Gb/s = $44.99

 

for a total of = $616 = £401.34

 

doesn't include Windows but you should be able to get that should play on high settings at 1080p with a good frame rate.

 

Neither of the systems you mention will play well at all, even on low settings, so keep that in mind, and also keep in mind this system I put together is upgradeable, you can overclock the living hell out of that processor with a water cooler, it includes everything for a full working desktop computer, and you can upgrade anything you want down the road.

 

Edit: forgot a hard drive

 

If you can stretch to £500 switch to a R9 290x 4gb for $320/£208 and you can surely max it out, or upgrade the HDD or case or whatever you want. This is all of course assuming you can get these parts for the same price in your country.

Edited May 1, 2015 by r0llinlacs

[PCMasterRace46]

i7 gtx 980 a SSD and 16gb ram. Complete.

[K20]

£577 but some of the parts like graphics card and case can be bought from ebay for good prices these days. not sure about the PSU, you'll have to find out if its got enough power for the card. i put an ssd in there cause SSD for me worked better for V, noticeably better. i might have gone OTT on the processor, but more is better.

 

£81 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-B85-G43-Gaming-LGA1150-Motherboard/dp/B00EJ3RJGC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1430479785&sr=8-2&keywords=msi+motherboard

 

£120 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GeForce-Graphics-GDDR5-PCI-Express/dp/B00ICUGOP0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430480040&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+750+ti

 

£150 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-3-30GHz-Graphics-Technology-Socket/dp/B00K5J22GG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1430479805&sr=8-3&keywords=intel+i5

 

£50 http://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Series-1866MHz-Memory-Module/dp/B00J8E91T0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430479900&sr=8-1&keywords=8gb+ddr3

 

£53 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Builder-Modular-Bronze-Certified/dp/B00ALK1GFC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1430480289&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+500w

 

£13 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CC6YN6M/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i5?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0B5P992RSEGVVY7TZBJB&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455333147&pf_rd_i=468294

 

£70 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-Technology-240GB-Solid-2-5-inch/dp/B00A1ZTZNM/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1430480029&sr=1-5&keywords=ssd+256gb

 

£40 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CC-9011050-WW-Carbide-SPEC-01-Mid-Tower/dp/B00I6BJATW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430480244&sr=8-1&keywords=atx+case

or get one build... NOT DELLL.... for gods sake do not get dell

 

http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/

 

http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/gaming-pcs-computers.asp

 

i've bought from Dino PC's 4 times. no problems. good systems, just make sure you know whats going inside.

Edited May 1, 2015 by K20

[Crimson Flam3s]

I would recommend building it yourself. It will be cheaper and upgradable plus it will be yours! You put it together and that feels good.

 

You can get help from many people here. Hell pm me and i'll help with choosing parts and putting it together.

 

But if you must buy prebuilt, I recommend the alienware alpha.

 

Despite what some people say here, it is a good value for what it's worth. 750 ti, core i3, windows included and xbox 360 controller plus some games.

 

The issue is that in the u.s it costs the equivalent of 300 pounds but it costs 440 pounds in the u.k right now, but you must decide. Better than those pc's in the op at least.

[FlacidJack]

i7 gtx 980 a SSD and 16gb ram. Complete.

oh yeah but have you ever seen a pair of real ****?

...sorry, i'm just jealous

[LastNomad]

Thanks for all the replies

I could (with some help probably) put one together but i'm kinda lazy so would rather pay a bit more for a pre built one

 

Going from that i've seen this one £383.59, apartf rom the CPU being better it doesn't seem to be much different from the £400 one i first posted

 

 

 

Computer Case Cooler Master Elite 430

CPU AMD FX 6350 (6 x 3.9 GHZ - Turbo 6 x 4.2 GHZ)

CPU Heatsink AMD Heatsink & Fan

Memory 8 GB 1333Mhz (1x8GB) - (DDR3)

Graphics Card AMD Radeon R7 260X - 2 GB - (XFX) - (PCI-E)

Motherboard Gigabyte GA-78LMT/USB3 (AMD 760G) - VGA/DVI/HDMI

Sound Card Motherboard Integrated HD Sound

Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)

Power Supply 700W PSU CPU Compound Standard CPU Compound Supplied With Heatsink

 

 

 

Or for an extra £40 i could change the CPU to a AMD FX 8320 (8 x 3.5 GHZ - Turbo 8 x 4.0 GHZ)

Edited May 1, 2015 by LastNomad

[K20]

dont press the buy button just yet, compare an analyse:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/784318-experince-with-pc-near-gta-v-minimum-specifications/

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/784579-post-your-pc-specs-and-average-framerate/

[Deminu]

Go with the second one and upgrade the GPU.

[Chris998]

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($96.95 @ OutletPC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.89 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.64 @ Amazon)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280X 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($212.98 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($61.98 @ Newegg)

Total: $612.40

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LmD9Q7

[piddlefoot]

I have been an AMD builder for 15 odd years.

AMD have not built a decent CPU for over 12 months now in comparison to Intel.

APU's are rubbish and it feels like AMD have just turned there backs on gamers worldwide.

 

If you are building a GAMING rig, go Intel.

I am building a new rig myself, I am going for the power of the x99A chipset mother boards from ASUS.

CPU is an Intel i7- 5820 6 core @ 3.5ghtz.

RAM is 2400mhtz - 16gig.

 

I have not picked a video card yet.

 

 

Good luck with you new PC, consider building it yourself, it really is not hard to do.

[DentureDynamite]

Thanks for all the replies

I could (with some help probably) put one together but i'm kinda lazy so would rather pay a bit more for a pre built one

 

If you're looking for pre-built, and don't mind tweaking it a bit (i.e. needing to add a gfx card and possibly a beefier PSU), Dell's XPS 8700 is a very solid system that you can find some excellent deals on. I'm not typically a Dell fan, but this one is good--I own two of them (an i5 and an i7-based rig):

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Desktops-AllInOnes-/171957/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=dell+xps+8700&LH_PrefLoc=2&_dcat=179&Processor%2520Type=Intel%2520Core%2520i5%25204th%2520Gen%252E&rt=nc

 

Most all of them include plenty of RAM, HDD space, OS is built-in (and you can switch to Win7 for very little cost--ask me how if interested).

Edited May 1, 2015 by DentureDynamite

[lunaticz0r]

if you are going to buy a prebuilt, why ask on the forums for people to build a pc for you...if you are not even going to listen/take their advice and do those PC's? just wondering...

[sivispacem]

The only viable reason for choosing FX series over Intel i5 would be if tge difference in price let you step from a 970 to 980 or similar.

 

The "correct" mid-high-end gaming system choice for 1080p is an i5 and a GTX970. Despite R0llinglacs insistence, the 970 is a better choice for the vast majority of gamers than the 290X. The performance difference is, well, there isn't really one, and the 970 runs cooler, quieter and with significantly better drivers and support for multiple card solutions.

[LastNomad]

if you are going to buy a prebuilt, why ask on the forums for people to build a pc for you...if you are not even going to listen/take their advice and do those PC's? just wondering...

I never asked any one to build me one. As for the the pre built part I was looking at sites that offer the option of customising your own but as i said in my original post my knowledge is limited so if i didn't ask i probably would have just bought some mash up up parts that sounded good but didn't really do any thing.

 

From what people have mentioned has given me a better understanding of what i should be looking for. Thanks to those who have and i'll keep looking and checking here so i can get what i need.

[r0llinlacs]

The only viable reason for choosing FX series over Intel i5 would be if tge difference in price let you step from a 970 to 980 or similar.

 

The "correct" mid-high-end gaming system choice for 1080p is an i5 and a GTX970. Despite R0llinglacs insistence, the 970 is a better choice for the vast majority of gamers than the 290X. The performance difference is, well, there isn't really one, and the 970 runs cooler, quieter and with significantly better drivers and support for multiple card solutions.

 

The 970 is overpriced trash with only 3.5gb of VRAM and the 8/9xxx is on par with an i7, not an i5. The only thing you're good at is wasting money and dogging AMD ya intel fanboy.

Edited May 1, 2015 by r0llinlacs

[yoječ]

FX-8320/8350/9590/etc. doesn't really work that well in GTA5, in benchmarks it's closer to i3 than i5/i7: http://pclab.pl/art57777-24.html

Not that it surprises me.

[sivispacem]

ya intel fanboy.

*Looks down at signature *

*Notices surprising lack of Intel components*

 

Might I suggest you wind your neck in and shut the f*ck up if you're incapable of responding without resorting to calling people "fanboys"? Muppet.

[Andreaz1]

in benchmarks it's closer to i3 than i5/i7

Not just in GTA V. Can't remember where this was posted but it's an interesting read: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/298648-what-would-you-recommend-fx-cpus-for/page-5?do=findComment&comment=4064810

[sivispacem]

There's some really messed up stuff going on in some those benchmarks. Min 12.1 FPS for a 8350 when a 4350 (the same but with two modules disabled) manages 15.7? I'll concede that for gaming, at pretty much any price point, the FX are inferior (though I'd still pick one over an i3 for a general purpose build) but the real world difference really isn't as big as some people have tried to make out. Mine, with a mild overclock, performs similarly in synthetic benchmarks to a 4770 or slightly better than a 3770k. And despite being apparently disadvantaged compared to the testing system used in most of the examples in that thread (SLI 770s) I've never seen frames that low on anything.

 

The FX is significantly disadvantaged compared to the i5 in gaming but it's also much cheaper. A high end 990FX motherboard with proper 16x/16x PCI-E and an FX-8320 costs round about £200- quite significantly cheaper than a 4460 with a decent motherboard, and over £100 cheaper than an overclockable i5 equivalent with a motherboard allowing you to take advantage of it. And even a £300 Z87 Maximus VI Extreme Edition won't do 16x/16x SLI- for that you need X99. On price point, the AMD is a closer competitor to the i3s and it can be made to perform significantly better. But that comes with additional heat, poorer performance in badly optimised or primarily single-threaded applications. It's horses for courses and I wouldn't recommend an FX to anyone who wasn't an enthusiast properly clued up on the drawbacks.

[r0llinlacs]

FX-8320/8350/9590/etc. doesn't really work that well in GTA5, in benchmarks it's closer to i3 than i5/i7: http://pclab.pl/art57777-24.html

Not that it surprises me.

 

1080p benchmark? That means 100% nothing to me, I don't play at 1080p. Here are some 4k benchmarks that have completely different results, even the 8320E is on par with the i7 4790K

 

 

 

 

AMD doesn't shine until you hit 4k.

Edited May 2, 2015 by r0llinlacs

[yoječ]

Honestly, these CPU results don't make any sense at all. Why would i5-3570k be faster than i7-4790k, or FX-8370E faster than FX-9590? That just seems random.

Not to mention that the graphs itself is suspiciously "flat", ie. the results don't seem to differ that much between all of the CPUs. This could mean that the test was conducted in a GPU-dependent place in the game (that is, they were effectively conducting a GPU benchmark, and that's why various CPUs got nearly the same results)

Edited May 2, 2015 by yojo2

[r0llinlacs]

Honestly, these CPU results don't make any sense at all. Why would i5-3570k be faster than i7-4790k, or FX-8370E faster than FX-9590? That just seems random.

Not to mention that the graphs itself is suspiciously "flat", ie. the results don't seem to differ that much between all of the CPUs.

 

 

Duhhh because it's at 4k...

 

Same benchmark at 1080p

 

[yoječ]

Yeah, in 4k apparently a 3.3-4.3GHz clocked CPU (FX-8370E) will beat the very same CPU clocked at 4.7-5GHz (FX-9590).

 

How am I expected to believe in this? Do you have any logical explanation to why would higher clock speed result in a worse performance?

Edited May 2, 2015 by yojo2

[r0llinlacs]

Yeah, in 4k apparently a 3.3-4.3GHz clocked CPU (FX-8370E) will beat the very same CPU clocked at 4.7-5GHz (FX-9590).

 

How am I expected to believe in this? Do you have any logical explanation to why would higher clock speed result in a worse performance?

 

"4K effectively forces a GPU bottleneck, meaning that even the 760K doesn't show as large a performance limit."

 

 

Here's the same benchmark at 1080p with a 270x bottlenecking

 

Edited May 2, 2015 by r0llinlacs

[yoječ]

That still doesn't explain why a theoretically slower CPU beat the faster CPU in the previous test you showed.

 

To be honest, I don't think a CPU test serves much purpose when every CPU is bottlenecked by the GPU.

Edited May 2, 2015 by yojo2