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Upgrade 8gb ram to 16gb worth it? (1440p)


buco
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Hi guys,

 

I'm wondering if anyone upgraded their ram recently and if that made any difference performance wise?

My ram usage is hovering around 70-80% of my 8 gigs but i notice my pagefile using up a lot of disk space and sometimes I get a huge stutter (very rare) besides what seems like some microstuttering every now and again while looking around with the mouse. So the question is in the title...any difference to anyone that upgraded their ram?

 

My specs:

[email protected] ghz

MSI 970 overclocked

8gb ram

1440p with Gsync

 

Settings: v.high with no aa(fxaa only) grass - high

 

Getting 80ish fps in city and 60-70ish fps country. Seen it once or twice under 60 with lots of foliage but very rarely.

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My advice is buy an SSD, rather than more system ram.

 

even with your main game files installed onto a HDD, your page file will be mega fast if your OS is on an SSD. Don't worry, you don't need to reinstall windows :)

 

You can change the location of your pagefile from within advanced system properties in Windows :)

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Thing is i already have an SSD. Two actually. I noticed that my main ssd where Windows is installed is shrinking day by day ever since installing GTA V. Only around 15gb left of the 120 total. Maybe freeing up some space can help since the pagefile is on that drive.

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Expanding your ram is always a positive, no matter how it's sliced. Yes, you should get 16gb while you can and while the ram standard is not too expensive. I waited too long to max out my old ddr2 board and ended up paying 100 bucks for 4gb. Better to get it now, before it goes up. Ram gets more expensive with time, because they know it's a key upgrade to avoid buying a new motherboard and cpu, good to start with ram and a gpu instead, and the hardware makers benefit from this by hiking up prices for parts becoming more rare in their manufacturing trends. Beat them to that punch is my point.

 

Your 4670k is great, give it 16gb to work with. It'll only cost you 40 or 50 USD to get those extra 8gb, I'm ordering the same myself soon, then next up will likely be a new GPU, I like my 960, but I want better and to be ready for a larger res monitor (mine in 1080p, so for now, I'm fine, and the ram will help me a lot instead for now.

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Thanks for the replies. Im getting the extra ram and will post some feedback of the improvements (if any).

 

@TheMostKnowledgable - If you can get a 970. They are so beast for the price even with that vram handicap. When overclocked its pratically a 980 (stock).

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Unless you are like me and have a browser with 16 tabs open while running utorrent with over 10 torrents constantly doing something and love to alt tab from games to watch youtube/twitch streams at 60 fps, you won't need 16GB.

 

I believe 16GB is a bit too early to invest to, not many games will utilize the ram and you will mostly hang at 40% ram usage while gaming and doing something else at same time, plus when you have too much free RAM and you run into memory leaks, they will have more significant consequences on your system, games will cache what they won't use despite needing way less etc.

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Upping RAM is always worth it anyway, even for general browsing, it seems Google don't give a f*ck about fixing the memory leak in Chrome so soon enough you'll need 8GB alone just to browse the net. :p

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Guys with 16GB RAM getting stutter too, just later (takes more time for the game to fill that up).

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Should i up my ram from 4 gb to 8 gb??

i3 4130 3.4 ghz

Gtx 750 1gb

4 gb ram

1 tb 7200 rpm hdd

1080P monitor

What settings??

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Should i up my ram from 4 gb to 8 gb??

i3 4130 3.4 ghz

Gtx 750 1gb

4 gb ram

1 tb 7200 rpm hdd

1080P monitor

What settings??

Yes you should. Your videocard can be a problem because it only has 1gb of vram. But try downing texture quality to normal.

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What TIM74UK said--I'd get an SSD first (most performance benefits); but seeing as DDR3 RAM is pretty cheap, I'd spring for the 16GB after that. :) You can never have too much RAM, right? :)

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What TIM74UK said--I'd get an SSD first (most performance benefits); but seeing as DDR3 RAM is pretty cheap, I'd spring for the 16GB after that. :) You can never have too much RAM, right? :)

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How SSD give more performance? It maybe loads faster?

I am also thinking about adding 4 or 8gb of ram and SSD, but thinking if there is a bigger point to it and the performance rise isint that big in a game.

I know that SSD is very good overall, but looking at gaming point of view, is it worth it?

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GrandTeaRedemption

Hi guys,

 

I'm wondering if anyone upgraded their ram recently and if that made any difference performance wise?

My ram usage is hovering around 70-80% of my 8 gigs but i notice my pagefile using up a lot of disk space and sometimes I get a huge stutter (very rare) besides what seems like some microstuttering every now and again while looking around with the mouse. So the question is in the title...any difference to anyone that upgraded their ram?

 

My specs:

[email protected] ghz

MSI 970 overclocked

8gb ram

1440p with Gsync

 

Settings: v.high with no aa(fxaa only) grass - high

 

Getting 80ish fps in city and 60-70ish fps country. Seen it once or twice under 60 with lots of foliage but very rarely.

Yes, my PC uses a bit more than 8GB total when playing GTA 5 PC, so yes, good thing to have 16GB.

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How SSD give more performance? It maybe loads faster?

 

I am also thinking about adding 4 or 8gb of ram and SSD, but thinking if there is a bigger point to it and the performance rise isint that big in a game.

 

I know that SSD is very good overall, but looking at gaming point of view, is it worth it?

For your OS its definitely worth it. For gaming not so much. Better loading times but thats about it.

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Expanding your ram is always a positive, no matter how it's sliced.

I wouldn't say that. Depends on how it's done. Adding more dimms can cause issues with OCs. Pairs that don't play nice can cause your machine to crash. And most people don't realise that if you do buy more ram, if it's not identical in spec, the lowest performance values are enforced across all slots.

 

There's enough posters in the stutter thread stating they run with 16gb and still have the problem.

 

The more ram you have, the more apps like to nom nom, which is why you have people with 16 and more saying they think it's necessary, as they see usage going over 8.

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Fubarbrickdust

 

 

What TIM74UK said--I'd get an SSD first (most performance benefits); but seeing as DDR3 RAM is pretty cheap, I'd spring for the 16GB after that. :) You can never have too much RAM, right? :)

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Lol! - Off topic I know...but great gif. I've made the exact same one that's been sitting ready to go for the right occasion. Nice use, dude.

 

OT: yeah I've been considering the same upgrade - but only because I want to do away with my pagefile altogether. I'm currently about 1gb over the in-game VRAM metre and although the game's still running really fluid I get the odd hitch here and there when loading textures - if I understand correctly, when you go over the VRAM limit it'll start loading to the pagefile...I'd rather this goes straight to my RAM than on/off the SSD. Although that's not the ultimate soulution it seems like the middle ground.

 

Am I sorta on the right lines with what I've said above, or am I missing something completely?...please chime in if you (genuinely) know better and could pass on the wisdom.

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I would rather use those $60 on upgrading something else instead of adding another 8gb of ram. Yeah you will see some slight improvements in some areas but most importantly in gaming not worth it. Dimishing returns.

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Going from 8GB to 16GB RAM leaves even less space on the C: drive? Using the default pagefile size and with hibernation turned on going from 8GB to 16GB RAM you will lose an additional 14GB on your C: drive.

 

With Windows 7 the default size of the pagefile is equal to the RAM size. That is:

RAM = 8GB -> pagefile.sys = 8GB,

RAM = 16GB -> pagefile.sys = 16GB

 

Also with Windows 7 the default size of the hiberfil.sys is equal to 75% of the RAM size. That is:

RAM = 8GB -> hiberfil.sys = 6GB,

RAM = 16GB -> hiberfil.sys = 12GB

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TheMostKnowledgable

 

 

What TIM74UK said--I'd get an SSD first (most performance benefits); but seeing as DDR3 RAM is pretty cheap, I'd spring for the 16GB after that. :) You can never have too much RAM, right? :)

commandowrong.gif

Lol! - Off topic I know...but great gif. I've made the exact same one that's been sitting ready to go for the right occasion. Nice use, dude.

 

OT: yeah I've been considering the same upgrade - but only because I want to do away with my pagefile altogether. I'm currently about 1gb over the in-game VRAM metre and although the game's still running really fluid I get the odd hitch here and there when loading textures - if I understand correctly, when you go over the VRAM limit it'll start loading to the pagefile...I'd rather this goes straight to my RAM than on/off the SSD. Although that's not the ultimate soulution it seems like the middle ground.

 

Am I sorta on the right lines with what I've said above, or am I missing something completely?...please chime in if you (genuinely) know better and could pass on the wisdom.

 

 

It's not recommended to disable your pagefile anymore. Without getting too into specifics but the way that memory is managed in win7 and forward is much improved and it makes it that you want that pagefile now and I myself have experienced some stability issues without it fwiw. But get that ram, anyway. Can't go wrong with mo' ram. I was a nopagefile XP user, but I found it wasn't good for my win7 when I was trying to figure out what was wrong one time.

 

The usage of that gif to say wrong in a forum made me lose my sh*t and I died. I'm dead.

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I upgraded my system from 8GB to 16GB two days ago, and noticed a definite improvement with GTA 5. It's a memory whore, and needs all the help it can get lol.

 

Just do it.

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About the pagefile...I tried disabling it and guess what? Game crashed after a minute with a "ran out of memory" warning. So disabling pagefile with 8gb is a no-go. Must be some kind of memory leak or maybe it's just that 8gb for very high settings is not enough.

 

@TheMostKnowledgable - I died too when I posted that gif xD

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I have the game on SSD and had 8GB of Ram.
While playing GTA V my memory usage was hitting almost 8GB and the game would begin to stutter at this point.

So, I bought 8GB more and now I have 16GB total.

Memory usage goes up pass 8GB now, however, I don't experience the stutter, I was experiencing with only 8GB.

It definitely did make a difference for me in terms of performance.

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you guys just can't be right. Something was wrong with your computers.

 

Anyway, 8 gb of ram is more than enough for this game (of course, EVERYTHING needs to be closed while playing). Windows 8.1 64 bit

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I can also add that 8gb of ram is plenty, my ram usage doesn't go above 75% when playing GTA V. Though if you want to invest in more ram, just buy another set of 8gb, save you a few bucks and put those extra ram slots in your motherboard to use, lol.

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My maximum RAM usage was 6000 MB (6GB). Im playing everything on max, 1080p, MSAA 2x + MFAA.

 

So. if my 8 GB of RAM isnt enough as some people say, will I experience stutter at some point during the game or something else ?? What are the consequences of not having enough RAM in a game ??

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So I upgraded to 16gb of ram. Notice a slight decrease in stutter. Performance the same maybe slightly better. Main thing I noticed is the pagefile wasn't even touched the whole hour I was testing the game and i have it auto managed by windows. So that maybe a reason for the small reduction of the stutter because all the work was managed by the ram and not the ssd. May need further testing but looking good with 16 gigs.

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The game has a memory leak. period!

This is a serious issue and I hope R* knows for this.

 

I think that maybe the Rockstar launcher is the problem (that useless thing running in background together with gtav.exe).

People that didnt buy the game, but downloaded it from the internet, are using 3DM launcher and apparently, they dont have any problems with ram usage...

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