Dyngsur Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yes, MFAA apparently work only when MSAA is enabled. Does somenone have FXAA or TXAA enabled as well when using MFAA + MSAA ? im using MFAA with MSAA*2 + FXAA Shayd80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIM74UK Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yes, MFAA apparently work only when MSAA is enabled. Does somenone have FXAA or TXAA enabled as well when using MFAA + MSAA ? im using MFAA with MSAA*2 + FXAA Are you locking it at 30FPS or do you just enjoy the huge frame drops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNETSTAR Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 its work MFAA on gtx 760? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booyaah Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Man I don't know how console players get by at 30 FPS, makes me want to rip my hair out. I remember playing Dragon Age with the cutscenes locked @ 30 fps, gawd so bad. Hell I don't like playing below 100 fps unless there's a massive clusterf*ck going on my screen. And I would say DSR is better anyways... Franklin approves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yes, MFAA apparently work only when MSAA is enabled. Does somenone have FXAA or TXAA enabled as well when using MFAA + MSAA ? im using MFAA with MSAA*2 + FXAA Yep I'm running FXAA+MFAA+MSAA+4+TXAA I do wonder if it's overkill but it looks awesome, so much better compared to when I was using DSR at 1440 and only FXAA. Also getting decent performance now with 60fps in the city and 40-60fps in the country&desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyngsur Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yes, MFAA apparently work only when MSAA is enabled. Does somenone have FXAA or TXAA enabled as well when using MFAA + MSAA ? im using MFAA with MSAA*2 + FXAA Are you locking it at 30FPS or do you just enjoy the huge frame drops? dont get any frame drops mostly. so im like almost all the time over 60 fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff73 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) No need for some useless mfaa crap,get a 1440p or 1600p monitor & everything looks crystal clear,but you will need 2 decent gpus to maintain decent frame rates Edited April 27, 2015 by Biff73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
œaœa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Real men play without AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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surxenberg Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 The people claiming their rigs are getting stable 60fps @[email protected] are either delusional or lying. My [email protected] doesnt get anywhere close (a [email protected] is almost as fast as a titan x). Face it, MSAA is broken. Take a look at Crytek's Ryse. This is the best looking PC Game as of now and it doesn't even support MSAA. If you gonna cripple your performance wiTh MSAA you might as well go for SSAA with SMAA on top, like Crytek did with Ryse. Modern deferred shading game engines get raped by MSAA, and both AMD &nvidia support Downsampling these days, so there is literally zero reason to use MSAA. It would be best if the devs didnt even bother with FXAA+MSAA to begin with but go with SSAA+SMAA right from the start. TIM74UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIM74UK Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yes, MFAA apparently work only when MSAA is enabled. Does somenone have FXAA or TXAA enabled as well when using MFAA + MSAA ? im using MFAA with MSAA*2 + FXAA Are you locking it at 30FPS or do you just enjoy the huge frame drops? dont get any frame drops mostly. so im like almost all the time over 60 fps My system spec is more than twice what you have and even I get frame drops... you must be playing something turned way down I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNETSTAR Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 its work MFAA on gtx 760? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surxenberg Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 MFAA only works on 9XX series. besides, the 760 is too slowfor AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) The people claiming their rigs are getting stable 60fps @[email protected] are either delusional or lying. My [email protected] doesnt get anywhere close (a [email protected] is almost as fast as a titan x). Face it, MSAA is broken. Take a look at Crytek's Ryse. This is the best looking PC Game as of now and it doesn't even support MSAA. If you gonna cripple your performance wiTh MSAA you might as well go for SSAA with SMAA on top, like Crytek did with Ryse. Modern deferred shading game engines get raped by MSAA, and both AMD &nvidia support Downsampling these days, so there is literally zero reason to use MSAA. It would be best if the devs didnt even bother with FXAA+MSAA to begin with but go with SSAA+SMAA right from the start. My system was the same when i first started playing if i turned on MSAAx2 on its own the framerate would drop to a crawl. So I changed to 1440 using DSR and just FXAA and it performed better and looked good but one day i turned it back to 1080 and suddenly my FPS was hitting 80-100fps which it wasnt before (not sure if the patch helped or not?) so I turned MSAAx4+MFAA+TXAA on and it looks awesome and still getting 60fps in the city drops quite a lot in the country though down to the 40s but still pretty smooth. No idea whats changed I havent changed to much regarding the other settings, turned Post FX down and Reflections to Very High could have affected it? This is a GTX970 and i7-4770k with 16GB Ram. Edited April 27, 2015 by lysander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideshowRock Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Man I don't know how console players get by at 30 FPS, makes me want to rip my hair out. I remember playing Dragon Age with the cutscenes locked @ 30 fps, gawd so bad. Hell I don't like playing below 100 fps unless there's a massive clusterf*ck going on my screen. And I would say DSR is better anyways... PC master gamers are 0.5 meters away from the screen Console peasants much much further It makes a difference Edited April 27, 2015 by SideshowRock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirler Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 The people claiming their rigs are getting stable 60fps @[email protected] are either delusional or lying. My [email protected] doesnt get anywhere close (a [email protected] is almost as fast as a titan x). Face it, MSAA is broken. Take a look at Crytek's Ryse. This is the best looking PC Game as of now and it doesn't even support MSAA. If you gonna cripple your performance wiTh MSAA you might as well go for SSAA with SMAA on top, like Crytek did with Ryse. Modern deferred shading game engines get raped by MSAA, and both AMD &nvidia support Downsampling these days, so there is literally zero reason to use MSAA. It would be best if the devs didnt even bother with FXAA+MSAA to begin with but go with SSAA+SMAA right from the start. Well something is going wrong with your setup. I decided to run a 1080p benchmark, most settings maxed, MSAAx4 (No AA on reflection), Grass very high, reflection/postFX Ultra, very high tess, advanced 50% extended distance. Low point : 47 High point: 111 Spent most of its time mid 60's - low 70's. So I have to assume a 980 with OC can do better. And Im frequently told I need more RAM and more VRAM and even a 2nd GPU to run at the res's I do (main rig is 3770, 780ti, 8gb ram) I did see someone claim rock solid 60 with ultra grass and MSAAx8 running with a 980, I was thinking BS, but then I read his OC figures and claims of max temps in the 50's and I just felt sorry for them and didnt even reply to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surxenberg Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 my setup is fine, your results just prove my point. to achieve a constant 60fps in heavy scenes, which the benchmark doesnt show, you have to play without AA. with everything on max settings @ 1080p/4xMSAA i get dips in the mid 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyngsur Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) The people claiming their rigs are getting stable 60fps @[email protected] are either delusional or lying. My [email protected] doesnt get anywhere close (a [email protected] is almost as fast as a titan x). Face it, MSAA is broken. Take a look at Crytek's Ryse. This is the best looking PC Game as of now and it doesn't even support MSAA. If you gonna cripple your performance wiTh MSAA you might as well go for SSAA with SMAA on top, like Crytek did with Ryse. Modern deferred shading game engines get raped by MSAA, and both AMD &nvidia support Downsampling these days, so there is literally zero reason to use MSAA. It would be best if the devs didnt even bother with FXAA+MSAA to begin with but go with SSAA+SMAA right from the start. Well something is going wrong with your setup. I decided to run a 1080p benchmark, most settings maxed, MSAAx4 (No AA on reflection), Grass very high, reflection/postFX Ultra, very high tess, advanced 50% extended distance. Low point : 47 High point: 111 Spent most of its time mid 60's - low 70's. So I have to assume a 980 with OC can do better. And Im frequently told I need more RAM and more VRAM and even a 2nd GPU to run at the res's I do (main rig is 3770, 780ti, 8gb ram) I did see someone claim rock solid 60 with ultra grass and MSAAx8 running with a 980, I was thinking BS, but then I read his OC figures and claims of max temps in the 50's and I just felt sorry for them and didnt even reply to that. I can share my settings with an 980, i got like solid 60 fps almost att all time. With 2msaa, etc.. all advance settings on // 50% @ extended distance scaling and shadow. Post FX-High Grass-High Rest is Very High or Ultra. Nvidia PCSS Shadows No txaa! No Reflection MSAA No Dof or Motion Blur - Dont like it! 1080 resolution MFAA on in nvidia CP Edited April 27, 2015 by Dyngsur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipCRO Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I have no idea how to downsample. I have a 1080 screen, and a GTX 970. Can someone post a good tutorial for downsampling ? And one more question, which antialiasing setting do I need to use if I downsample ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyngsur Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I have no idea how to downsample. I have a 1080 screen, and a GTX 970. Can someone post a good tutorial for downsampling ? And one more question, which antialiasing setting do I need to use if I downsample ? U need a monitor that supports DSR, under 3D management global settings u can change ur native resolution. But 2*1080 resolution without MSAA cost more fps than 1080 with MSAA. FilipCRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipCRO Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I have no idea how to downsample. I have a 1080 screen, and a GTX 970. Can someone post a good tutorial for downsampling ? And one more question, which antialiasing setting do I need to use if I downsample ? U need a monitor that supports DSR, under 3D management global settings u can change ur native resolution. But 2*1080 resolution without MSAA cost more fps than 1080 with MSAA. Okay great, that means its better to play at native 1080p with MSAA 2x. And I am also playing on a Samsung FullHD (1080p) LED TV, so I assume that screen doesnt support DSR anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natman777 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) I'm using MSAA x2 with MFAA getting a constant smooth 72 fps. Looks great on my 144Hz monitor. My settings with my GTX 970 are: In Game Extended Distance Scaling: 0% FXAA: On MSAA: x2 TXAA: Off Grass Quality: High High Resolution Shadows: Off Soft Shadows: Softer Tessellation: High Post FX: Very High Reflection MSAA: Off NVIDIA CP MFAA: On V-Sync: Adaptive Trillinear Buffering: On Power Management Mode: Prefer Max Performance Everything else is maxed. Game has never looked so great and smooth before I started using MFAA. My GPU is overclocked to 1500MHz Core and 3900MHz Mem, but you should still get at least 60 fps with these setting no problem(I'm getting 70-72 constant). Edited April 29, 2015 by natman777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loudy Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Is it me or MFAA only works in fullscreen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interfreak Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'm using MSAA x2 with MFAA getting a constant smooth 72 fps. Looks great on my 144Hz monitor. My settings with my GTX 970 are: In Game Extended Distance Scaling: 0% FXAA: On MSAA: x2 TXAA: Off Grass Quality: High High Resolution Shadows: Off Soft Shadows: Softer Tessellation: High Post FX: Very High Reflection MSAA: Off NVIDIA CP MFAA: On V-Sync: Adaptive Trillinear Buffering: On Power Management Mode: Prefer Max Performance Everything else is maxed. Game has never looked so great and smooth before I started using MFAA. My GPU is overclocked to 1500MHz Core and 3900MHz Mem, but you should still get at least 60 fps with these setting no problem(I'm getting 70-72 constant). Drive on grass and see if you maintain anywhere near 70fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipCRO Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I decided to turn off MSAA because its a performance hog, the FPS cost is just too much! I`m currently using in-game FXAA and driver forced FXAA in Nvidia control panel + Enhance application setting 8x. I left the MFAA setting turned on. Should I disable it (does it even work without MSAA) ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipCRO Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I decided to turn off MSAA because its a performance hog, the FPS cost is just too much! I`m currently using in-game FXAA and driver forced FXAA in Nvidia control panel + Enhance application setting 8x. I left the MFAA setting turned on. Should I disable it (does it even work without MSAA) ??? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond-optic Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) just recently decided to compare things to DSR @ 1440, and with turning AA down to 2x (keeping both FXAA & TXAA off and leaving MFAA on) it definitely looks way better to me and still runs good. just 2x AA w/ MFAA is a sweet spot for me at 1440 aliasing is vastly decreased and just the improvement in sharpness alone is highly noticable ...just kind of a pain having to go back into the settings all the time since it gets set back to 1080 if I alt tab ------ * and in response to some other posts, you dont need a 'monitor that supports DSR'.. its the video card that supports it (unless if you want to downsample the old fashion way) ..The output to the monitor hasnt changed dimensions or anything, the video card downsamples it to your native resolution Edited May 3, 2015 by diamond-optic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novesori Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Man I don't know how console players get by at 30 FPS, makes me want to rip my hair out. I remember playing Dragon Age with the cutscenes locked @ 30 fps, gawd so bad. Hell I don't like playing below 100 fps unless there's a massive clusterf*ck going on my screen. And I would say DSR is better anyways... Franklin approves. Which OSD prog do you use? I can't change my font with Rivatuner.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalesdini Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 You know what's better than all these AA options? 4k master race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipCRO Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 just recently decided to compare things to DSR @ 1440, and with turning AA down to 2x (keeping both FXAA & TXAA off and leaving MFAA on) it definitely looks way better to me and still runs good. just 2x AA w/ MFAA is a sweet spot for me at 1440 aliasing is vastly decreased and just the improvement in sharpness alone is highly noticable ...just kind of a pain having to go back into the settings all the time since it gets set back to 1080 if I alt tab ------ * and in response to some other posts, you dont need a 'monitor that supports DSR'.. its the video card that supports it (unless if you want to downsample the old fashion way) ..The output to the monitor hasnt changed dimensions or anything, the video card downsamples it to your native resolution You play with DSR @ 1440 + 2X MSAA + MFAA. ? Impossible with your rig...I have the same gpu as you do, 8 gb ram, i5 4690k, and I would drop to like 33 fps with that combo! Shayd80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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