Thelema93 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) In this topic I will be attempting to create a "canonical" mission ordering for gta v, so it can be played in a way that gives the story better pacing and it makes the most sense. This topic was inspired by money over bullsh*ts topic in the IV section " the possible trinity" http://gtaforums.com/topic/430301-the-possible-trinity/ obviously it won't be as vast as that list as V's story is more linear but we can still try. anyway here is the list, I cut it up into parts so it's more spread out. You'll notice that in some parts I will explain the reasoning for the order Here it is. Part 1 Prologue repossession Pulling favours Chop Complications father/son Long stretch Marriage counselling Chaos ( therapy session 1) Friend request Pulling another favour Reasoning for order I decided to put friend request straight after marriage counselling because I doubt that after michael pulls the house down and gets threatened by madrazo he would go straight home, sit down and watch a movie then go cycling with jimmy, it's more likely he would want to meet lester right away and get the heist prep work underway so he can get the money back to madrazo. Getaway driver( random event) Casing the jewel store Long stretch Simeon random event Shift work( S&F) Pulling favours again Still pulling favours daddy's little girl Reasoning for order I put daddy's little girl after casing the jewel store because I think that michael would relax at home and spend some time with his family while lester locates the heist equipment. Pulling one last favour Bugstars equipment BZ gas Jewel store job Part 2- Mr phillips Trevor Philips industries Rampage 1 Nervous Ron Weed farm( random event) Mackenzie airfield purchase Arms trafficking air 1( propety mission) Arms trafficking air 2 (property mission) Arms trafficking air 3 ( propety mission) Arms trafficking air 4 ( propety mission) Drunk couple to artuist cult crystal maze Friends reunited Reasoning for order I put mr phillips and trevor phillips industries back to back and preferably on the same day because I don't think trevor would want to keep his Chinese contact waiting. And while Trevor's meeting with the triads the bikers randsack his trailer. I put weed farm raid straight after nervous ron because I think trevor would raid the farm to get the funds to purchase the Mackenzie airfield then do some smuggling missions before triggering crystal maze. Part 3 Fame or shame Dead man walking Evil ( therapy session 2) threes a crowd by the book scouting the port Reasoning for order I put dead man walking, threes a company and by the book all back to back to focus on that story arc. Michael has also been away from home a lot during that time. Then I'll do scouting the port after by the book because at the warehouse where you torture mr k you can see the port of Los santos in the background. So I imagine that on the way to the warehouse trevor saw the port and maybe thought it was worth scouting for something to steal. So after dropping mr k at the airport he goes back to the port to investigate but realises only dockworkers are permitted to enter. Then he hears that floyd works at the docks and decides to pose as a dock worker to scout the place. it dosen't really make sense if you do scouting the port before by the book because how would trevor know about the port?. You could of course go around that area in free roam but I think it's better for story reasons for trevor to do by the book first, see the port in the background of the warehouse then decide to go scouting. Mini sub Merryweather heist Grass roots -Michael Grass roots- trevor Did somebody say yoga Hood safari Rampage 2 Rampage 3 Hotel assassination Multi target assassination Seeking the truth( episilon mission) Accepting the truth( episilon mission) Assuming the truth ( epsilon mission) Chasing the truth ( epsilon mission) Bearing the truth ( epsilon mission) Reasoning for order I put did somebody say yoga after merry weather heist because during the cutscence of somebody say yoga Amanda says "ever since you pyscotic best pal has turned up you've turned into an even bigger asshole" I think Amanda would say that because michael has been away from home a lot comminting crimes with trevor. then I put hood safari after MW heist because during the intro cutscence of the MW heist trevor is kind of rude to F and treats him like sh*t like he's a stranger but if you've done hood safari before MW heist then T and F have already been acquainted and it dosen't make sense that trevor would talk to him like a stranger. then Put hotel assasanation after hood safari because if you do it the other way around it dosen't make sense. Why would F go to his aunts to rest when he has a big ass mansion in vinewood hills and why would chop be there? Then I put the first few epsilon missions. It seems like a fitting time to put them. Michael is lost without his family and needs a new purpose in his life, so he seeks out the truth. blitz play intro masks Boiler suits getaway vehicle trash truck Tow truck blitz play heist I fought the law eye in the sky Mr Richards Caida libre Part 3- minor turbalance Vice assassination Negativity ( phone therapy session 1) Arms trafficking air 5 ( property mission) Reasoning for order In arms trafficking 5 Oscar Guzman mentions the rednecks have taken over Trevor's airfield, so I'd imagine they claimed it while trevor was in LS. So I make trevor take the airfield back as soon as he gets back to Blaine county. Bus assassination Construction assassination paleto score setup Predator risk assessment ( S&F) Delivering the truth ( episilon mission) Civil border patrol ( S&F) Exercising the truth ( epsilon missions) Reasoning for order I make michael do all the epsilon missions that are in sandy shores while him and T are in exile. It's weird having michael venture out there before exile because he mentions to trevor he's never been there. Liquidity risk ( S&F) Special bonds Bounty 1 Minute men ( S&F) Bounty 2 Bounty 3 Targeted risk( S&F) Bounty 4 target practice ( S&F) Uncalculated risk ( S&F) Arms trafficking ground 1( propety mission) Hitch lift 3 to artuist cult crash rescue( random event)-michael Arms trafficking ground 2 ( propety mission) Arms trafficking ground 3 ( propety mission) fair game ( S&F) paparazzi( S&F) deal gone wrong( random event) -trevor Arms trafficking ground 4 ( propety mission) buried alive ( random event michael) paparazzi sex tape paparazzi meltdown Paparazzi highness paparazzi realty check Arms trafficking ground 5 ( propety mission) Rouge artuist ( random event)- michael Grass roots- Franklin Grass roots- the pickup Grass roots- the drag grass roots the smoke in Hitch lift 4 to artuist Artuist cult shootout military hardware-trevor paleto score Minute man blues (S&F) derailed Monkey business Part 4 hang ten Rampage 5 deep inside surveying the score Bury the hatchet Pack man fresh meat f*cked up( phone therapy session 2) Unknowing the truth ( epsilon mission) ballad of rocco cleaning out the bureau architect plans fire truck Getaway vehicle Burea raid wrap up Reuniting the family Reasoning for order I put all the FIB stuff back to back and decided not to reunite the family until after ballad of rocco and FIB heist. Because I think that the phonecall to Amanda at the end of ballad of rocco about michael becoming an executive producer is why the family decided to come back. And plus I don't think Michael would go on a risky heist while his family is back and after he promised to stay alive. It makes more sense that he wraps up all the FIB business then goes home a triggers reuniting the family. doting dad Legal trouble Lamar down meltdown parenting 101 planing the big one police stingers Gauntlet- mission row Gauntlet- pillbox hill Gauntlet- Rockford hills big score third way/something sensible/times come Edited May 26, 2015 by Thelema93 MichaC, BlackSnow176, HockinFish and 8 others 11 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Uh... wouldn't taking the girl to LS get Martin's men sent on you? Since the Exile would still be technically on according to the list? Unless you're using F of course Note: I've always done this BEFORE the first stock assassination to get a little extra money and used Trevor. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067352844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Uh... wouldn't taking the girl to LS get Martin's men sent on you? Since the Exile would still be technically on according to the list? Unless you're using F of course Note: I've always done this BEFORE the first stock assassination to get a little extra money and used Trevor. are you talking about hitch lift? I just take her to the artuist cult as trevor Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067352885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Really nice to see something like this, but I'm curious as to how you decided to order the Story Missions. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067352969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokesWithCigs Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Damn I'm tempted to start over and do another play through but I'm fine where I'm at. I try to find at least 10 scavenger hunt items and 2 side activities between each mission. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067353029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 Really nice to see something like this, but I'm curious as to how you decided to order the Story Missions. I put missions where it makes the most sense. For example I put dead man walking, threes a company and by the book all back to back to focus on that story arc. Michael has also been away from home a lot during that time. Then I'll do scouting the port after by the book because at the warehouse where you torture mr k you can see the port of Los santos in the background. So I imagine that on the way to the warehouse trevor saw the port and maybe thought it was worth scouting for something to steal. So after dropping mr k at the airport he goes back to the port to investigate but realises only dockworkers are permitted to enter. Then he hears that floyd works at the docks and decides to pose as a dock worker to scout the place. it dosen't really make sense if you do scouting the port before by the book because how would trevor know about the port?. You could of course go around that area in free roam but I think it's better for story reasons for trevor to do by the book first, see the port in the background of the warehouse then decide to go scouting. Then I'll do merry weather heist followed by did somebody say yoga because during the cutscence of somebody say yoga Amanda says ever since you pyscotic best pal has turned up you've turned into an even bigger asshole. I think Amanda would say that because michael has been away from home a lot comminting crimes with trevor. then I'll do hood safari after MW heist because during the intro cutscence of the MW heist trevor is kind of rude to F and treats him like sh*t like he's a stranger but if you've done hood safari before MW heist then T and F have already been acquainted and it dosen't make sense that trevor would talk to him like a stranger. then I'll do hotel assasanation after hood safari because if you do it the other way around it dosen't make sense. Why would F go to his aunts to rest when he has a big ass mansion in vinewood hills and why would chop be there? So yeah that's just a couple of examples of why I chose to do that order. SmokesWithCigs 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067353084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Yeah, I'm replaying through right now on the PC (first PC playthrough) and I've done the missions in a similar order. I'm really just doing mission strings in the order that they appear, and everything makes sense like you said. Schokoladeka 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067353102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapapote Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Really nice to see something like this, but I'm curious as to how you decided to order the Story Missions. There was a bit of talk in a similar topic in the IV section. http://gtaforums.com/topic/430301-the-possible-trinity/page-23 Strangely, I've noticed some changes from the list there, despite the list in that topic had more sense, and Thelema93 and others providing reasons for the old order. For example, "Friend Request" comes here after "Daddy's Little Girl", while in the old order came before, and "The Long Stretch" has been moved earlier. I think the old order made more sense, especially considering what Roe pointed that in-game news articles after "Repossession" talk about "Friend Request" happening in the same week (not to mention what Thelema93 initially pointed, "I doubt after pulling down the house and being threatened by Madrazo, Michael would go straight home and sit on his ass watch a movie then go cycling with Jimmy", I would place "Daddy's Little Girl" between "Friend Request" and "Casing the Jewel Store"). Roe also mentions Stretch coming out "next week" after "Repossession" according to Lifeinvader posts, which would place "The Long Stretch" after "Friend Request", but that needs to be checked. "Did Somebody Say Yoga", "Hood Safari" and "The Hotel Assassination" are missing here. In the older, they came between the two heists. Dr Robotnik mentioned in the other topic how Lamar says he got Franklin's location from Trevor, and how it would make more sense if Trevor was back in Los Santos at the time. I would place Trevor's rampages according to where he is at the moment. Hence, rampage 1 should be before "Friends Reunited", rampage 2 and 3 before "Caida Libre", rampage 4 before "Hang Ten" and rampage 5 after that. Finally, I would put "Legal Trouble" before "Lamar Down". At the end of "Legal Trouble", Solomon says invitations are on the way, and it's not until after "Lamar Down" that Michael's family starts commenting about the movie (Amanda posts in Michael's Lifeinvader that she just got the invitation, which can't happen before Solomon sends it in "Legal Trouble"). Besides, I don't think Devin would have waited until the very last moment before the premiere to plug on the movie. cp1dell 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067372774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I would place Trevor's rampages according to where he is at the moment. Hence, rampage 1 should be before "Friends Reunited", rampage 2 and 3 before "Caida Libre", rampage 4 before "Hang Ten" and rampage 5 after that. That's a good point actually. The characters' locations could definitely play a factor in when Strangers & Freaks missions are triggered. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067372849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm working on my order now btw. Will hopefully post at some point today but I wanna try and get it as accurate as possible and color coded. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067372937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGTFan Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Shouldn't there be a slight gap between Legal Trouble and Meltdown ? That's pretty rushed out . Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067373109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Here is my idea of how the events in the main story of GTA V could be placed in the most logically chronological* order possible. *had to take a breath after writing that one! Ultimately like all the other GTA games, it's an open world and there's a lot of leeway for player choice. GTA V reflects that choice quite a lot and the dialogue in missions often changes to reflect in-game events. For example: Michael's therapy sessions will discuss different things depending on which missions were completed before triggering the session. Initially I was planning to run the missions at specific times/dates within the in-game calendar but the clock is a bit glitched and days often restart after completing certain missions making it a little awkward, so I gave up on that but I will give a rough indication of how many days should be passed at certain points in the game. Key: Michael - Franklin - Trevor - All 3 - Heist Note: In the case that there are 2 protags used in the same mission, I've just color coded it with whoever it fits the most imo. Part I (takes place within 2 in-game weeks) Prologue Franklin and Lamar Repossession Getaway Driver (random event) Complications Father/Son Marriage Counselling Friend Request Pulling Favors (Strangers & Freaks) Chop Simeon Yeterian (random event) Daddy's Little Girl The Good Husband (side mission) Chaos (Therapy Session) Exercising Demons (Strangers & Freaks) Shift Work (Strangers & Freaks) Pulling Another Favor (Strangers & Freaks) The Long Stretch Casing the Jewel Store Heist Setup (dependant on choice) The Jewel Store Job Edit: I've just spaced them out a bit to signal character switches and break it up. Notes Pacing: * After Repossession, in-game news says that Jay Norris will unveil the Life Invader device "this week", therefore there shouldn't be too long a gap between that mission and Friend Request. * Pulling Favors and Chop (which is unlocked after it) can be completed straight after Repossession, however I prefer the pacing if Complications is done before them as dialogue during Pulling Favors talks about Franklin spending less time "in the hood" (ie, hanging with Michael) and him "trying to branch out". * Sometimes switching character can automatically trigger a mission. This can be a bit frustrating but ultimately it doesn't matter too much to the pacing of the story here. * The Good Husband side mission is triggered by a phone call that can come any time after Friend Request therefore may come at a different point to the sequence above but again it doesn't really matter in terms of the story ark. * It's mentioned early on in the game that Stretch is coming out "next week", therefore The Long Stretch should be paced accordingly and not completed too early on imo. Random Events: * I've included certain random events here because Simeon Yeterian is unavailable after this section of the story, and Getaway Driver introduces Packie McReary as avaiable for Heists. * If any other random events pop up during general gameplay, I'd say it's up to you whether you want to do them or not as they shouldn't impact on the rest of the story at this point. * Both random events here can be completed by either Michael or Franklin however I think it makes sense to do them both as Franklin. Simeon Yeterian because it just seems more likely that Franklin would go back there and Getaway Driver because it takes place right by Franklin's house. I can't see why Michael would be around that area but maybe you could have him visit the strip club before/after perhaps. * I think ideally Getaway Driver would be done with Michael so he could meet Packie in person before (potentially) chosing him for heists. Although you could use the rational that Franklin simply recommended him to Michael. I think that just about completes Part I. This is a work in progress and I'll most likely be updating and editing this all over the place so please bear with me while I try and work this out in my own head. Thanks to anyone that's read this and any comments/thoughts are certainly welcome! Edited April 25, 2015 by roe Bigmantingyeetmaster123, matajuegos01, Thelema93 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067373217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm gonna add a few more Strangers & Freaks missions into the sequence to fit with chapapote's idea of triggering them at certain times based on where the protagonists are likely to be. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067373309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I wish you luck with assembling your list. Kampret 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067374351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 I made a few changes to my list( and I apologise for leaving out hood safari and hotel assasanation) I put pulling favours after marriage counselling because of what franklin says about branching out. It sounds like he's referring to his activities with Michael.( thanks for pointing that out roe) And I moved friend request to be straight after marriage counselling. I also changed around the rampages to fit where trevor would be at the time and I put deep inside after T returns to LS. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067375534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 I'm gonna add a few more Strangers & Freaks missions into the sequence to fit with chapapote's idea of triggering them at certain times based on where the protagonists are likely to be. awesome looking forward to seeing it Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067375622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Money Man Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Good to see this topic up and running Nameless Foot Soldier 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067381455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaguy95 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 This topic is like communism. Good idea, bad execution. You just blatantly put the list there, without any argumentation or communication with people. Besides there are very few things in the game you can argue that belong to a certain chronological stage. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067381494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 This topic is like communism. Good idea, bad execution. You just blatantly put the list there, without any argumentation or communication with people. Besides there are very few things in the game you can argue that belong to a certain chronological stage. all right fair point. I'll explain things a bit better. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067381538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 This topic is like communism. Good idea, bad execution. You just blatantly put the list there, without any argumentation or communication with people. Besides there are very few things in the game you can argue that belong to a certain chronological stage. I think the idea is to discuss it a bit further and then update the OP when and if we can all come up with a reasonable conclusion. I agree it's probably unlikely to happen though because as you say there isn't a clearn chronological order to a lot of it and the game actually uses different dialogues anyway. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067381543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampret Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I wish you luck with assembling your list. Please, they'd be lucky if there's any variation in chronological order, given how linear V mission structure really are. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067381555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I wish you luck with assembling your list. Please, they'd be lucky if there's any variation in chronological order, given how linear V mission structure really are. Well, if any story expansion comes to play... Kampret 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067381743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 That's a good point actually. The characters' locations could definitely play a factor in when Strangers & Freaks missions are triggered. During my playthrough on the PC I noticed some S&F missions aren't "forced" onto the map, depending on where you are. For instance, Cletus' first mission appears when Trevor is in Blaine County. I'm not 100% sure, but his second mission becomes available after Trevor goes to Los Santos. What I noticed though is that the S&F icon doesn't hang on the edge of the map (it being miles away from the player's location in LS), and it doesn't count towards the "Available Mission Number" under Trevor in the SWITCH menu. But you can see the icon when you pause the game and view the map, or drive up to Blaine County. But once you reach the point in the story where Trevor is back living in his trailer (Exile I think), Cletus' mission will hang on the edge of the map and count towards the mission number in the SWITCH menu. Of course this applies to other Strangers and Freaks missions as well, this is just one example. So the S&F missions and their "timeline" definitely do come into play depending on the protagonists location story-wise. -snip- Awesome, simply awesome. Really looking forward to the rest. Though, I think Franklin is better suited for "Getaway Driver." If you noticed, Packie constantly refers to the protagonist as "kid." Of course he's using it loosely/slang since Franklin obviously isn't a kid, but it's odd to refer to Michael as "kid." Especially by Packie. Please, they'd be lucky if there's any variation in chronological order, given how linear V mission structure really are. Obviously it's not like GTA IV/EFLC where certain missions had to take place between each other, but with V it makes sense for some missions to take place before others based on context, and updates on the in-game websites. Just take a look at Roe's reasoning for some of the orders. Of course you can do the missions in any order you want, and it won't create plot holes - but this is more of a "clean" order. Definitely going to wait to do my next playthrough and "permanent save" for the PC until Roe finishes his mission order. Seems to be coming along really nice, and like I said before, the reasons for the specific order are very satisfying. roe, Big Gta fan and Andreas 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067383529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gta fan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) i would put reunite the family before bury the hatchet,that's what i can say right now,and one more thing why would anyone make a chronological missions list for iv,it's only one character what can possibly go wrong and the story isn't complicated i don't think there any minor plot holes in iv at all Edited April 27, 2015 by Big Gta fan Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067384157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) The chronological mission order isn't just for IV. If you've ever looked at the "Possible Trinity" topic, it includes the missions from TLAD and TBoGT since all three stories take place during the same timeline. There are a couple plotsholes that were made when TBoGT was released, concerning when Elizabeta is taken down by the feds. When it was just GTA IV and TLAD, the chronological mission order worked out, but once TBoGT came along and the mission order had to be altered, it caused some strange order of events where in IV Elizabeta is freaking out that she is going to be arrested soon, but simultaneously in TLAD she is calm and collected - something like that. This is because TBoGT most likely went through some changes concerning its overall plot and series of events, as speculated by the references in IV and TLAD to the events of TBoGT and its characters, that were present before it was actually released. EDIT: Also, Roe - for the color coding where there are more than two protagonist that can trigger the same mission, I think whoever is at the beginning of the cutscene would work best. Like Marriage Counseling, if you start as Michael you get the full cutscene - instead of walking in halfway as Franklin. Or Fame or Shame, start it as Michael - so you see the whole thing before Trevor walks in. Edited April 28, 2015 by cp1dell Big Gta fan 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067384295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 i would put reunite the family before bury the hatchet,that's what i can say right now,and one more thing why would anyone make a chronological missions list for iv,it's only one character what can possibly go wrong and the story isn't complicated i don't think there any minor plot holes in iv at all you don't unlock reuniting the family until after cleaning out the burea. Which takes place a few missions after bury the hatchet. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067385478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaguy95 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 The chronological mission order isn't just for IV. If you've ever looked at the "Possible Trinity" topic, it includes the missions from TLAD and TBoGT since all three stories take place during the same timeline. There are a couple plotsholes that were made when TBoGT was released, concerning when Elizabeta is taken down by the feds. When it was just GTA IV and TLAD, the chronological mission order worked out, but once TBoGT came along and the mission order had to be altered, it caused some strange order of events where in IV Elizabeta is freaking out that she is going to be arrested soon, but simultaneously in TLAD she is calm and collected - something like that. This is because TBoGT most likely went through some changes concerning its overall plot and series of events, as speculated by the references in IV and TLAD to the events of TBoGT and its characters, that were present before it was actually released. EDIT: Also, Roe - for the color coding where there are more than two protagonist that can trigger the same mission, I think whoever is at the beginning of the cutscene would work best. Like Marriage Counseling, if you start as Michael you get the full cutscene - instead of walking in halfway as Franklin. Or Fame or Shame, start it as Michael - so you see the whole thing before Trevor walks in. What messed up the whole elizabeta fed thing in tbogt was the fact that they put billy grey in a cutscene in the mission chinese takeout. I'd also like to add that while in gta v the "chronologicality" isn't necessarily the main point of conversation, the "canonicality" is. We cannot really discuss based on solid ingame evidence, whether some things WILL take place at a certain point, like with iv and the dlc's. However, we can discuss based on the characters/rockstars supposed reasoning of thought why some things SHOULD take place at a certain point. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067386037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 The chronological mission order isn't just for IV. If you've ever looked at the "Possible Trinity" topic, it includes the missions from TLAD and TBoGT since all three stories take place during the same timeline. There are a couple plotsholes that were made when TBoGT was released, concerning when Elizabeta is taken down by the feds. When it was just GTA IV and TLAD, the chronological mission order worked out, but once TBoGT came along and the mission order had to be altered, it caused some strange order of events where in IV Elizabeta is freaking out that she is going to be arrested soon, but simultaneously in TLAD she is calm and collected - something like that. This is because TBoGT most likely went through some changes concerning its overall plot and series of events, as speculated by the references in IV and TLAD to the events of TBoGT and its characters, that were present before it was actually released. EDIT: Also, Roe - for the color coding where there are more than two protagonist that can trigger the same mission, I think whoever is at the beginning of the cutscene would work best. Like Marriage Counseling, if you start as Michael you get the full cutscene - instead of walking in halfway as Franklin. Or Fame or Shame, start it as Michael - so you see the whole thing before Trevor walks in. What messed up the whole elizabeta fed thing in tbogt was the fact that they put billy grey in a cutscene in the mission chinese takeout. I'd also like to add that while in gta v the "chronologicality" isn't necessarily the main point of conversation, the "canonicality" is. We cannot really discuss based on solid ingame evidence, whether some things WILL take place at a certain point, like with iv and the dlc's. However, we can discuss based on the characters/rockstars supposed reasoning of thought why some things SHOULD take place at a certain point. that's actually a good point. I should of called the topic "canon mission order" it would of made more sense. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067386079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaguy95 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 The chronological mission order isn't just for IV. If you've ever looked at the "Possible Trinity" topic, it includes the missions from TLAD and TBoGT since all three stories take place during the same timeline. There are a couple plotsholes that were made when TBoGT was released, concerning when Elizabeta is taken down by the feds. When it was just GTA IV and TLAD, the chronological mission order worked out, but once TBoGT came along and the mission order had to be altered, it caused some strange order of events where in IV Elizabeta is freaking out that she is going to be arrested soon, but simultaneously in TLAD she is calm and collected - something like that. This is because TBoGT most likely went through some changes concerning its overall plot and series of events, as speculated by the references in IV and TLAD to the events of TBoGT and its characters, that were present before it was actually released. EDIT: Also, Roe - for the color coding where there are more than two protagonist that can trigger the same mission, I think whoever is at the beginning of the cutscene would work best. Like Marriage Counseling, if you start as Michael you get the full cutscene - instead of walking in halfway as Franklin. Or Fame or Shame, start it as Michael - so you see the whole thing before Trevor walks in. What messed up the whole elizabeta fed thing in tbogt was the fact that they put billy grey in a cutscene in the mission chinese takeout. I'd also like to add that while in gta v the "chronologicality" isn't necessarily the main point of conversation, the "canonicality" is. We cannot really discuss based on solid ingame evidence, whether some things WILL take place at a certain point, like with iv and the dlc's. However, we can discuss based on the characters/rockstars supposed reasoning of thought why some things SHOULD take place at a certain point. that's actually a good point. I should of called the topic "canon mission order" it would of made more sense.That's ok. I'm actually waiting to see how/if the story dlc is integrated into the main game. When it's released I think this topic could really come alive Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067386333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Robotnik Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Weirdly enough, on my most recent playthrough (second on the PS4), "The Long Stretch" wasn't even available until after "Friend Request". Did a patch change the unlock order? As to the question of who should start the missions (when they can be started with more than one character), they should probably be started by the character you're first made to control after the cutscene (Trevor for the "Blitz Play" setup, Franklin for "I Fought the Law..."). That being said, I always start "Father/Son" as Franklin just because I hate how he always shows up wearing a hat if you start it as Michael. "Fame or Shame", though, I think works better if you start as Trevor; it makes sense to drive over there right after "Friends Reunited", you see a little of Jimmy and Michael interacting before he shows up, and one of the gold medal achievements is punching out the guy who tells you you can't park where you have; since that seems more in-character for Trevor than Michael, it makes sense if T's the one to drive to the audition. While the order listed here may be the more canonical one, I still prefer to play "Did Somebody Say Yoga?" after "Dead Man Walking" for the reasons I outlined in the other thread. That, and I think it might cause a glitch where Trevor can't reply to Jimmy and Ron's e-mails. Edited December 31, 2020 by Dr. Robotnik Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/787954-gta-v-chronological-mission-list-possible-trinity-v-version/#findComment-1067386916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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