Savage vs Buzzard

[*Lola]

I have both and being totally honest the buzzard is the better machine.

 

I prefer the Buzzard. Savage is too slow.

The Savage might clear out some missions faster, but the Buzzard's speed and agility outweigh the Savage's rockets.

I didn't get to try out the Savage before buying it. If I did, I never would have bought it.

[-Jacking-]

 

I have both and being totally honest the buzzard is the better machine.

 

I prefer the Buzzard. Savage is too slow.

The Savage might clear out some missions faster, but the Buzzard's speed and agility outweigh the Savage's rockets.

I didn't get to try out the Savage before buying it. If I did, I never would have bought it.

 

Savage is not really slow. You just need to know how to handle it properly, like the Hydra!

However, I agree The Savage is less agile and therefore it is very hard to change direction.

[soundism]

I have both, in addition to the Valkyrie. I prefer the buzzard.

 

The buzzard's agility outweighs the savage's firepower in every situation, PvE and PvP alike

 

In missions where you have enemies spawning in vehicles, the savage struggles because of the AI's tendency to drive directly below your chopper making it impossible to return fire. Their super accurate pistol/Uzi spam will whittle away the Savage's lifespan with a quickness.

 

Buzzard is ideal for the flyaway > quick 180 > fire at bikers move.

 

Savage's cannons don't have a useful enough range.

 

Savage is like a giant moth that always flies too close to the flame.

 

Buzzard is like the mosquito you can never seem to swat.

[VSeconds]

I have both, in addition to the Valkyrie. I prefer the buzzard.

 

The buzzard's agility outweighs the savage's firepower in every situation, PvE and PvP alike

 

In missions where you have enemies spawning in vehicles, the savage struggles because of the AI's tendency to drive directly below your chopper making it impossible to return fire. Their super accurate pistol/Uzi spam will whittle away the Savage's lifespan with a quickness.

 

Buzzard is ideal for the flyaway > quick 180 > fire at bikers move.

 

Savage's cannons don't have a useful enough range.

 

Savage is like a giant moth that always flies too close to the flame.

 

Buzzard is like the mosquito you can never seem to swat.

Good joke.... you almost got me... wait you are serious?

 

To be honest you using savage like buzzard, that why you say it sucks, because savage isn't buzzard, maybe next time try to use it like savage not buzzard.

[justinlynch3]

Savage.

 

Pro's.

- Explosive round machine gun: This gun is absolutely devastating under control of a helicopter.

 

- Fires rockets continually: Just hold X (PS3/4) and the rockets fire non-stop.

 

- Retractable landing gear.

 

- Players can't hijack your guns/missiles.

 

 

Con's.

 

- Less pitch then Buzzard.

 

- Very weak armor.

 

- Is pretty massive and not the best in tight spaces.

 

- All it's guns will destroy mission objectives.

 

 

Buzzard.

 

Pro's

 

- Small and nimble.

 

- Average helicopter health.

 

- Rockets can be fired by passenger (though this is also a con).

 

- It's guns are regular Gatling guns, meaning they can be used it High Priority Case without risk of destroying the briefcase.

 

- Has more pitch then Savage.

 

Con's.

 

- Pilot and passenger are exposed and easily shot.

 

- Can't retract landing gear.

 

- Rockets do not fire continually.

 

- Rockets can be highjacked by other players.

 

 

Basically if your into contact jobs with randoms or free roam, you want the Savage. In that you can give players a ride without risk of having your rockets stolen. Playing with friends it's 50/50, Savage has more firepower but is massive and less menuvrable, Buzzard has less firepower but is agile and compact letting it land on rooftops and many tight spaces.

Edited April 21, 2015 by justinlynch3

[soundism]

 

I have both, in addition to the Valkyrie. I prefer the buzzard.

 

The buzzard's agility outweighs the savage's firepower in every situation, PvE and PvP alike

 

In missions where you have enemies spawning in vehicles, the savage struggles because of the AI's tendency to drive directly below your chopper making it impossible to return fire. Their super accurate pistol/Uzi spam will whittle away the Savage's lifespan with a quickness.

 

Buzzard is ideal for the flyaway > quick 180 > fire at bikers move.

 

Savage's cannons don't have a useful enough range.

 

Savage is like a giant moth that always flies too close to the flame.

 

Buzzard is like the mosquito you can never seem to swat.

Good joke.... you almost got me... wait you are serious?

 

To be honest you using savage like buzzard, that why you say it sucks, because savage isn't buzzard, maybe next time try to use it like savage not buzzard.

You may have a point, but please enlighten me. How is a Savage best used?

 

Let's use the mission: Los Santos Connection as an example. When you are protecting your teammates at Stage 2 (el burro heights) while they hack, waves of grangers will spawn to to players. My tactic in the buzzard is to fly in a strafing pattern around the objective. Fly away from the grangers, then quickly turn 180 degrees and fire a volley. Rince and repeat until the spawns have exhausted.

 

How would you use the Savage in that situation?

 

Also, I never said Savage sucks. In fact, I like it. I just find the Buzzard to be the more useful of the two.

[paul]

the savage is pretty suicidal.

 

Bulky, moves around like a pregnant bathtub, and it's got paper mache for armor.

 

but i guess if you manage to get something under your crosshairs and within range of your cannon, you might just kill it before you get blown to bits.

 

Buzzard's survivability is much greater, which, imo, puts it ahead of the savage overall.

[serimos6]

 

The Savage can continuously fire rockets without stopping.

The Savage has explosive cannons like the Lazer and Hydra.

The Savage is bigger and takes longer to gain speed/slow down but is overall faster(may be wrong on this part, it's what it seems like from personal use).

 

You're on point but the Savage is slow as hell

 

 

 

 

 

The Savage is nice, great fun for missions with infinite ai

The Buzzard will surely win in an aerial battle though, it's more agile and can actually dodge homing missiles, it's faster and of course much smaller making landings easier.

 

That video just doesn't make sense to me... I've used a Savage against a Buzzard in missions when we're flying to an objective and literally every single time I end up passing them & getting to the objective WAY faster. I know for a fact that the Savage can "outrun" the Buzzard because I've done it a million times.

Edited April 21, 2015 by serimos6

[cipher656]

Hydra

[ExtremeTorque]

PvE = Savage

PvP = Buzzard

In my opinion though,a heavy attack helicopter should make the buzzard obsolete but savage's lack of armor is really holding it back in PvP.

I would love to see savage with buffed armor so it can take 2-3 homing missiles before exploding.

[Ziggy_Ivanhoe]

I agree that at first the Savage felt very clunky and slow and I was very disappointed with that aspect. But since using it on missions for a few weeks now it actually feels pretty nice. It's quirky but once you get the hang of it I think it's better than the Buzzard overall due to the firepower.

 

 

 

I have both, in addition to the Valkyrie. I prefer the buzzard.

The buzzard's agility outweighs the savage's firepower in every situation, PvE and PvP alike

In missions where you have enemies spawning in vehicles, the savage struggles because of the AI's tendency to drive directly below your chopper making it impossible to return fire. Their super accurate pistol/Uzi spam will whittle away the Savage's lifespan with a quickness.

Buzzard is ideal for the flyaway > quick 180 > fire at bikers move.

Savage's cannons don't have a useful enough range.

Savage is like a giant moth that always flies too close to the flame.

Buzzard is like the mosquito you can never seem to swat.

Good joke.... you almost got me... wait you are serious?

To be honest you using savage like buzzard, that why you say it sucks, because savage isn't buzzard, maybe next time try to use it like savage not buzzard.

You may have a point, but please enlighten me. How is a Savage best used?

Let's use the mission: Los Santos Connection as an example. When you are protecting your teammates at Stage 2 (el burro heights) while they hack, waves of grangers will spawn to to players. My tactic in the buzzard is to fly in a strafing pattern around the objective. Fly away from the grangers, then quickly turn 180 degrees and fire a volley. Rince and repeat until the spawns have exhausted.

How would you use the Savage in that situation?

Also, I never said Savage sucks. In fact, I like it. I just find the Buzzard to be the more useful of the two.

 

 

On Los Santos Connection I don't have a problem targeting ground vehicles unless they are moving. Then they seem to out pace the missiles for a while but with the nonstop missile fire you will hit eventually. I just stay on the north side of the complex high enough in the air where the NPCs don't target me and it's no problem. I get locks on anything on the ground from that position and I can just hover there unmolested raining missiles everywhere. Same as when you get to the hanger. The range on the missile lock is pretty good and you shouldn't get hit at all.

[oidgod]

Ok, let me give you a comparison.

 

Savage -

+ Far, Far more dangerous explosive cannon that shoots faster then a laser's

+ Missiles can be fired without cooldown

- Unlike Buzzard, is a LOT more bulky.

- Unlike Buzzard, CoPilot is less useful.

 

Buzzard -

+ Fastest Helicopter in the Game (or at least one of the fastest)

+ Copilot can fire missiles.

- Unlike Savage, machine-guns are practically only useful against other helicopters.

- Unlike Savage, Rockets are not able to be infinitely fired.

 

It comes down to what you prefer. You will be hard pressed to grief a good player with either IMO (go with the Valkyrie or Hydra for that, although i do not condone being an absolute dick), and both are very good in missions. It comes down to what kind of mission ; for a mission like CCO3 or LSC the Savage's ability to destroy everything in its path is more useful, but wherever you need to get to a lot of places quickly and the extreme firepower is unnecessary (Judging the Jury, for example), the Buzzard's extreme speed and power is also useful.

 

So what play style do you have? Would you prefer to have a bulky, but one of the best armed vehicles in the game, or an extremely fast but not as hard hitting Buzzard? Would you prefer to play the, "KILL EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE" missions, or the "I need to kill these spread out targets in a time limit" missions? Its your choice! I personally love CCO3*6 with the Savage, but the Buzzard has applications as well.

 

Now, if you're using either, you need to stay with strategies. The savage is nowhere near as bulky as it seems, and will smoke quickly to small arms fire. You should fly far above your target and use the lock on missiles to rain hell. With the Buzzard, you are far more prepped for Lockon rockets and situations where you need to hit and run frequently.

 

These two being compared as being the same or serving the same purpose with the same strategy is NOT a proper way to showcase which one is superior. They require different methods of playing, and should be applied in different situations then others. These two helicopters should be used as differently as an Insurgent w/gunner is used from a Rhino.

 

Either way, for those saying the Buzzard is superior in PvP, the matter of fact is that helicopters (sans valkyrie) are obsolete in PvP. The Guided Launcher is a death sentence for a savage pilot, and you will need to instantly focus on maneuvers if you are in a Buzzard. You will be able to devastate anyone without a guided launcher with the Savage, but the shows over whenever you hear the lock on.

Edited April 21, 2015 by oidgod

[RyanBurnsRed]

Lots of good info here

 

I'm pretty good with the Buzzard considering it's what I've been flying the most. I've never actually flown the Savage before though.

My plan was to buy one to use in both missions and freeroam. If I'm already used to its speed and maneuverability, then I think the Buzzard might be the better choice for me personally.

 

Like I said I was already leaning towards getting a Buzzard for the longest. I was considering the Savage as well since they're pretty close in price. The comparisons helped a lot. Once again thanks

[SemperJ550]

If you're looking for a combat helicopter then you should really use the Buzzard to be honest. Once the Savage builds up any kind of momentum you become a sitting duck to the homing launcher. Sure the Savage is more devastating but the maneuverability of the Buzzard is so much more using with the f*cking launcher about now. The Savage is really only good for missions imo. To be honest tough if you want a combat helicopter there is no better option than the Valkyrie.

[hercules1975]

 

I have both and being totally honest the buzzard is the better machine.

 

I prefer the Buzzard. Savage is too slow.

The Savage might clear out some missions faster, but the Buzzard's speed and agility outweigh the Savage's rockets.

I didn't get to try out the Savage before buying it. If I did, I never would have bought it.

 

 

Me and some other players did the Los Santos Connection, I was in my Savage and one of the others was in a Buzzard.

 

We ended up with the exact same number of kills as each other when we completed the mission.

 

I think it was 31 each.

[soundism]

Lots of good info here

 

I'm pretty good with the Buzzard considering it's what I've been flying the most. I've never actually flown the Savage before though.

My plan was to buy one to use in both missions and freeroam. If I'm already used to its speed and maneuverability, then I think the Buzzard might be the better choice for me personally.

 

Like I said I was already leaning towards getting a Buzzard for the longest. I was considering the Savage as well since they're pretty close in price. The comparisons helped a lot. Once again thanks

You can always test the Savage (or lots of other vehicles for that matter) in the creator. Make a GTA capture. Capture vehicles will infinitely respawn and you can even place actors inside vehicles for a little target practice.

[elidc]

Savage, explosive cannon is just so OP

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

What's the difference between these two helicopters combat wise of course, and why is the Savage more expensive?

 

They both have the explosive cannon so I'm not sure it's much different.

 

Savage:

• Slower
• Continuous Rocket Firing

Buzzard:

• Faster
• Smaller
• 2 Rocket Firing

 

I have both and they're great. (Tip: If a Special Crate is going to drop soon, get in a Buzzard and go into Passive Mode. Hover around the "VINEWOOD" letters and as soon as you see the message that the crate is getting ready to drop just head to the spot. Stay in the air until it actually drops and once it lands and land the Buzzard next to the crate. Get out, get crate, get in and leave the scene.)

Edited April 21, 2015 by nWo_Y2J_2015

[VSeconds]

 

 

 

I have both, in addition to the Valkyrie. I prefer the buzzard.

 

The buzzard's agility outweighs the savage's firepower in every situation, PvE and PvP alike

 

In missions where you have enemies spawning in vehicles, the savage struggles because of the AI's tendency to drive directly below your chopper making it impossible to return fire. Their super accurate pistol/Uzi spam will whittle away the Savage's lifespan with a quickness.

 

Buzzard is ideal for the flyaway > quick 180 > fire at bikers move.

 

Savage's cannons don't have a useful enough range.

 

Savage is like a giant moth that always flies too close to the flame.

 

Buzzard is like the mosquito you can never seem to swat.

Good joke.... you almost got me... wait you are serious?

 

To be honest you using savage like buzzard, that why you say it sucks, because savage isn't buzzard, maybe next time try to use it like savage not buzzard.

You may have a point, but please enlighten me. How is a Savage best used?

 

Let's use the mission: Los Santos Connection as an example. When you are protecting your teammates at Stage 2 (el burro heights) while they hack, waves of grangers will spawn to to players. My tactic in the buzzard is to fly in a strafing pattern around the objective. Fly away from the grangers, then quickly turn 180 degrees and fire a volley. Rince and repeat until the spawns have exhausted.

 

How would you use the Savage in that situation?

 

Also, I never said Savage sucks. In fact, I like it. I just find the Buzzard to be the more useful of the two.

 

 

I can do that easier, I can kill all enemies way faster at stage 2, and lock down that spot while teammate hacking, after that there 2 ways, stay 0.500-1km behind your team mate, and destroy enemies or just pick em up to the airport, while killing enemies in the hunger without 5second cooldown....

Edited April 21, 2015 by VSeconds

[oidgod]

 

What's the difference between these two helicopters combat wise of course, and why is the Savage more expensive?

 

They both have the explosive cannon so I'm not sure it's much different.

 

Savage:

• Slower
• Continuous Rocket Firing

Buzzard:

• Faster
• Smaller
• 2 Rocket Firing

 

I have both and they're great. (Tip: If a Special Crate is going to drop soon, get in a Buzzard and go into Passive Mode. Hover around the "VINEWOOD" letters and as soon as you see the message that the crate is getting ready to drop just head to the spot. Stay in the air until it actually drops and once it lands and land the Buzzard next to the crate. Get out, get crate, get in and leave the scene.)

 

The Buzzard has an explosive cannon now? I thought it was just normal MG.

[Datguy8925]

Savage > Buzzard imo because Hind D and Metal Gear memories.

 

But honestly in freeroam, the Buzzard will likely escape the public lobby warzone more often than not than a Savage due to the maneuverability and small size.

 

IF they buffed the armor of the Savage to withstand two homing missiles before disabling and a third to destroy, then the comparison gets less favorable for the Buzzard.

 

As of now the Savage is a great machine for grinding missions. For PvP? Not so much.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Datguy8925

[gbrown100]

Bah, this is just as bad as the free roam debate.

 

Buzzard = easier to not die.

 

Savage = easier to kill enemies.

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

 

 

What's the difference between these two helicopters combat wise of course, and why is the Savage more expensive?

 

They both have the explosive cannon so I'm not sure it's much different.

 

Savage:

• Slower
• Continuous Rocket Firing

Buzzard:

• Faster
• Smaller
• 2 Rocket Firing

 

I have both and they're great. (Tip: If a Special Crate is going to drop soon, get in a Buzzard and go into Passive Mode. Hover around the "VINEWOOD" letters and as soon as you see the message that the crate is getting ready to drop just head to the spot. Stay in the air until it actually drops and once it lands and land the Buzzard next to the crate. Get out, get crate, get in and leave the scene.)

 

The Buzzard has an explosive cannon now? I thought it was just normal MG.

 

I'm not sure what it's called in the Buzzard, but I'm pretty sure they do about the same thing.

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's the difference between these two helicopters combat wise of course, and why is the Savage more expensive?

They both have the explosive cannon so I'm not sure it's much different.

 

Savage:

• Slower
• Continuous Rocket Firing

Buzzard:

• Faster
• Smaller
• 2 Rocket Firing

I have both and they're great. (Tip: If a Special Crate is going to drop soon, get in a Buzzard and go into Passive Mode. Hover around the "VINEWOOD" letters and as soon as you see the message that the crate is getting ready to drop just head to the spot. Stay in the air until it actually drops and once it lands and land the Buzzard next to the crate. Get out, get crate, get in and leave the scene.)

 

The Buzzard has an explosive cannon now? I thought it was just normal MG.

 

I'm not sure what it's called in the Buzzard, but I'm pretty sure they do about the same thing.Not even close.

[FrostyColas]

Hydra is the way to go if you can afford it lol, besides that - I'd highly recommend choosing the Savage over the Valkyrie, simply because the Valkyrie is completely useless without a co-pilot.

Edited April 21, 2015 by FrostyColas

[PlasmicSnake]

Im not happy with the savage, it seems to slow and I used it on a mission Martins "on the list"? I believe Went to the balla or grove area and I took small arms fire from gangbangers for 5 seconds and it was already smoking and stalling out. It completely died out on me a minute later with no add'l damage.

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

 

 

 

 

What's the difference between these two helicopters combat wise of course, and why is the Savage more expensive?

They both have the explosive cannon so I'm not sure it's much different.

 

Savage:

• Slower
• Continuous Rocket Firing

Buzzard:

• Faster
• Smaller
• 2 Rocket Firing

I have both and they're great. (Tip: If a Special Crate is going to drop soon, get in a Buzzard and go into Passive Mode. Hover around the "VINEWOOD" letters and as soon as you see the message that the crate is getting ready to drop just head to the spot. Stay in the air until it actually drops and once it lands and land the Buzzard next to the crate. Get out, get crate, get in and leave the scene.)

 

The Buzzard has an explosive cannon now? I thought it was just normal MG.

 

I'm not sure what it's called in the Buzzard, but I'm pretty sure they do about the same thing.Not even close.

 

Ok, what's the difference?

Edited April 21, 2015 by nWo_Y2J_2015

[oidgod]

 

 

 

 

 

What's the difference between these two helicopters combat wise of course, and why is the Savage more expensive?

They both have the explosive cannon so I'm not sure it's much different.

 

Savage:

• Slower
• Continuous Rocket Firing

Buzzard:

• Faster
• Smaller
• 2 Rocket Firing

I have both and they're great. (Tip: If a Special Crate is going to drop soon, get in a Buzzard and go into Passive Mode. Hover around the "VINEWOOD" letters and as soon as you see the message that the crate is getting ready to drop just head to the spot. Stay in the air until it actually drops and once it lands and land the Buzzard next to the crate. Get out, get crate, get in and leave the scene.)

 

The Buzzard has an explosive cannon now? I thought it was just normal MG.

 

I'm not sure what it's called in the Buzzard, but I'm pretty sure they do about the same thing.

Not even close.

 

Ok, what's the difference?

 

The Buzzards are just like normal mini guns, whereas the Savages is an explosive cannon similar to the Lazer or Hydras. Each bullet causes an explosion from the Savage, whereas the buzzard is just a normal mini gun.

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's the difference between these two helicopters combat wise of course, and why is the Savage more expensive?

They both have the explosive cannon so I'm not sure it's much different.

 

Savage:

• Slower
• Continuous Rocket Firing

Buzzard:

• Faster
• Smaller
• 2 Rocket Firing

I have both and they're great. (Tip: If a Special Crate is going to drop soon, get in a Buzzard and go into Passive Mode. Hover around the "VINEWOOD" letters and as soon as you see the message that the crate is getting ready to drop just head to the spot. Stay in the air until it actually drops and once it lands and land the Buzzard next to the crate. Get out, get crate, get in and leave the scene.)

 

The Buzzard has an explosive cannon now? I thought it was just normal MG.

 

I'm not sure what it's called in the Buzzard, but I'm pretty sure they do about the same thing.

Not even close.

 

Ok, what's the difference?

 

The Buzzards are just like normal mini guns, whereas the Savages is an explosive cannon similar to the Lazer or Hydras. Each bullet causes an explosion from the Savage, whereas the buzzard is just a normal mini gun.

 

So, in other words, it's a small difference.

[lol232]

The Annihilator.

I'm serious, it can be very deadly if you know how to use it, and I've won numerous dogfights against Buzzards, some Savages, and even 2 jets (1 Lazer back in PS3 days and 1 Hydra).

Of course, it requires a lot of skill but undeniably it looks badass once you get the hang of it.

 

But tbh I'd choose Buzzard out of the two.