High school student kills teacher with crossbow and dagger in Barcelon

[SouthLand]

High school student kills teacher with crossbow and dagger in Barcelona

Suspect wounded four other people before being detained by police
As a minor, the 13-year-old attacker cannot be charged with murder under Spanish law

 

 

One person has died and four others have been injured after a 13-year-old student armed with a crossbow and a dagger burst into a high school in Barcelona. The victim was a substitute teacher who was covering social sciences classes for a colleague. Three of the four people injured are now being treated in the Hospital Sant Pau in Barcelona, and are reported to be in a stable condition.

The incident took place on Monday morning at the Joan Fuster school, located in Ferran Reyes square in La Sagrera neighborhood.

The youngster was also carrying a pellet gun and a rucksack containing material that could be used to make a petrol bomb.

 

 

The perpetrator of the attack was armed with a crossbow, as well as a dagger and a pellet gun

Because of his age, the perpetrator will not be charged for the offenses under Spanish law, and could not even be arrested.

 

 

As news of the incident spread, concerned parents began to congregate outside the school “Thank God for cellphones,” one told reporters. “They have kept us informed minute by minute.” Half-a-dozen ambulances were also located outside the school

 

 

Several students from the school explained on Monday that the attacker first shot at his Spanish teacher with the crossbow, after she told him to enter the classroom having arrived late. The woman is among the injured.

The attacker is then reported to have stabbed the daughter of the Spanish teacher, who was a classmate of his, in the leg. After hearing shouts and screams, the substitute teacher entered the classroom, and was shot with the crossbow and fatally stabbed in the abdomen.

 

 

The substitute teacher who was killed had been at the school for less than two weeks

The teacher who was killed had been at the school for less than two weeks.

Under Spanish law, minors aged under 14 who commit murder are not able to be charged. Legislation dictates that measures taken in cases such as this should be limited to the education and family environments, according to Spanish news agency EFE.

 

 

Acquiring a crossbow in Spain requires the same kind of permission as needed for a hunting rifle. However, a witness cited by EFE said the weapon used in the attack was homemade, constructed using wood and pens.

[Mr. Scratch]

Kid's been watching The Walking Dead too often.

[SouthLand]

Kid's been watching The Walking Dead too often.

 

Kids been getting bullying too often while the teachers don't even give a f*ck.

[universetwisters]

I remember back around 2012/2013, there were so many school shootings here in America, at least once a week or every couple of weeks or something. Either which way, was there a motive for this thus far or was it just a random thing?

[SouthLand]

I remember back around 2012/2013, there were so many school shootings here in America, at least once a week or every couple of weeks or something. Either which way, was there a motive for this thus far or was it just a random thing?

 

Kid gets bullied and picked on. Teachers don't feel like doing anything about this. Kid can't stand this crap anymore and decides to do one of the worst decision of his life

[universetwisters]

 

I remember back around 2012/2013, there were so many school shootings here in America, at least once a week or every couple of weeks or something. Either which way, was there a motive for this thus far or was it just a random thing?

 

Kid gets bullied and picked on. Teachers don't feel like doing anything about this. Kid can't stand this crap anymore and decides to do one of the worst decision of his life

 

 

That's pretty selfish of him, most school shooters are like that. Plus, the kid was 13. He had the whole rest of his schooling ahead of him and all that other stuff he could've done, had he not messed up by shooting his teacher with a crossbow, of all weapons.

[SouthLand]

 

 

I remember back around 2012/2013, there were so many school shootings here in America, at least once a week or every couple of weeks or something. Either which way, was there a motive for this thus far or was it just a random thing?

 

Kid gets bullied and picked on. Teachers don't feel like doing anything about this. Kid can't stand this crap anymore and decides to do one of the worst decision of his life

 

 

That's pretty selfish of him, most school shooters are like that. Plus, the kid was 13. He had the whole rest of his schooling ahead of him and all that other stuff he could've done, had he not messed up by shooting his teacher with a crossbow, of all weapons.

 

 

Guns are very hard to get in Spain legally. And illegally, you need to know somebody that can sell one to you which is a very hard task, unless you are involved in the criminal world.

 

Was he selfish? I don't know but I'll tell you something. In my country, if your son suffers bulling in school the only solution is to move your kids to a new school. So basically, that actually means, that the bullies are going to walk away free while you have to change school. There is another option, grab the bullies by the neck and make sure they understand it's the last time they are going to mess around with you. You will probably get detention and the teachers will want to have a chat with your parents, but that's the only way to solve the problem.

 

In other words:

 

The teachers = Don't give a f*ck about what happens with their students, they just come in, do their class, leave and make sure they get paid at the end of the month.

 

The bullies = Are not going to stop.

 

Suing= Going to court will cost you a lot of money, time (it can take up to 6 months to go to trial) and if you don't have solid evidence, you are not going to win the case. But if you do, they are minors so the only thing it can happen is the minors parent has to pay a fine which will not be more than 1500€

[Murdick]

Kid's been watching The Walking Dead too often.

 

The minute I read 'crossbow' I thought of twd xD

[Mr. Scratch]

 

Kid's been watching The Walking Dead too often.

 

The minute I read 'crossbow' I thought of twd xD

 

 

[Black_Dynamite]

That was pretty selfish of the kid to do that. If murder was the only way the kid could solve his bullying problem I think There was something else wrong with him. The teacher he killed wasn't even a full time teacher. I doubt she was even aware of his bullying. Hopefully those families see justice for their loss and suffering.

[Stephan90]

My condolescences,

 

on the kid, what purpose does it serve when we say the "kid is selfish" case closed? ... none. If the 13 year old boy got heavily bullied over a long time, what does he care if it is wrong or right? He knows that it s wrong to kill. But that doesn't make his anger go. Schools must do everything to make these kids speak with adults about their problems or else they will have to live with an attack like this in a school once in while.

 

Regarding guns, I read on several big news services that it was pretty easy to buy illegal guns in Europe. An AK-47 costs 600-700€ on the black market in Belgium. How do you think did the terrorists from the Charlie Hebdo attack get their weapons?! However, a random kid won't be able to get a gun in Europe if it hasn't a family member, who is allowed to possess weapons and doesn't store them in a safe place.

Edited April 20, 2015 by Stephan90

[make total destroy]

inb4 the contributors find some way to blame this on leftism.

[Dottie]

 

I remember back around 2012/2013, there were so many school shootings here in America, at least once a week or every couple of weeks or something. Either which way, was there a motive for this thus far or was it just a random thing?

 

Kid gets bullied and picked on. Teachers don't feel like doing anything about this. Kid can't stand this crap anymore and decides to do one of the worst decision of his life

 

Its hard in this society for a teacher to really do something about it mainly because a lot of parents these days have this "its not my kids fault" attitude and will lash out at the teacher when the teacher explains that what is wrong with said student (ex: bad grades or bad behaviour in class), which can deter faculty from giving help to the student(s) in need.

 

The bullied child needs to speak up to someone to get help or else its not gonna stop and resorting to shooting someone over it or other acts of violence won't solve anything

 

inb4 gun ban rally in america

Fixed that

[SouthLand]

In a Spanish forum i am in, we managed to find a Audio of a classmate explaining first hand what happen it's quite long and she speaks in Catalan, however i can make the effort in translating for tomorrow if you guys want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was pretty selfish of the kid to do that. If murder was the only way the kid could solve his bullying problem I think There was something else wrong with him. The teacher he killed wasn't even a full time teacher. I doubt she was even aware of his bullying. Hopefully those families see justice for their loss and suffering.

 

He went to far.

 

My condolescences,

 

on the kid, what purpose does it serve when we say the "kid is selfish" case closed? ... none. If the 13 year old boy got heavily bullied over a long time, what does he care if it is wrong or right? He knows that it s wrong to kill. But that doesn't make his anger go. Schools must do everything to make these kids speak with adults about their problems or else they will have to live with an attack like this in a school once in while.

 

Regarding guns, I read on several big news services that it was pretty easy to buy illegal guns in Europe. An AK-47 costs 600-700€ on the black market in Belgium. How do you think did the terrorists from the Charlie Hebdo attack get their weapons?! However, a random kid won't be able to get a gun in Europe if it hasn't a family member, who is allowed to possess weapons and doesn't store them in a safe place.

 

As i said, legally it's very hard to purchase a gun in Spain, illegally it's hard knowing someone who is willing to sell you one, if you are not involve in the criminal world. You just can't go to a random place in the suburbs asking for guns like you would ask for chocolate biscuits.

 

There is a third option; In Spain, any citizen can buy a gun that has been gum up by the police and has a certificate by a police station stating that that firearm is will not fire since it's broken on the inside.

 

proof:

 

http://www.milanuncios.com/armas-de-coleccion/pistola-star-9c-153320192.htm

http://www.milanuncios.com/armas-de-coleccion/cetme-md-l-inutilizado-con-uso-minimo-149057466.htm

http://www.milanuncios.com/armas-de-coleccion/ametralladora-alfa-55-inutilizada-54575127.htm

http://www.milanuncios.com/armas-de-coleccion/cetme-c-inutilizado-148378045.htm

 

 

I know those guns with the right hands, can be fixed and fire again. But once again, ONLY if you are involved into a criminal world or if you are a gun specialist (as a hobby) can access illegally into a lot of fire arms.

 

A 13 year old kid it's just impossible.

 

 

inb4 the contributors find some way to blame this on leftism.

 

This has nothong to do with politics a murder is a murder.

[Mr. Scratch]

Yeah, good luck explaining that to MTD.

[Tyler]

Politics absorbs and makes use of any story of impact, for the most part. Especially stories related directly to national topics of which are particularly important to many citizens, regardless of the story's location (we are in 2015, after all). If it leads, it'll be talked about in some capacity by politicians. If you somehow think this isn't the case then I don't know what to tell you.

 

And since I'm posting in the topic anyway I'll just say that if you're going to break down into a discussion on certain political matters that may or may not be related to the events that took place, be respectful of the people you're responding to, even if they aren't respectful of you. And, of course, I hope that the family of the teacher finds solace somehow, despite the possibility of the person responsible for said teacher's murder not being convicted under a full circumstance.

[MyName'sJeff]

Damn, if this is what the world has come to now, I can't imagine what's gonna happen within the next decade.

[Crazyeighties]

That's insane that the kid can't even be charged or arrested

[Femme Fatale]

Crazy dude...

[161isaiah161]

I have to admit killing someone with a homemade crossbow is impressive

[Femme Fatale]

I have to admit killing someone with a homemade crossbow is impressive

Ditto...

[9i OTD]

If he's gonna kill anyone, it should have been the people bullying him. Ruin your life over that with them, leave the sub teacher out of it.

[PhillBellic]

What. Seriously, the kid should have spoken with a trusted adult to help him.

[Stephan90]

I have to admit killing someone with a homemade crossbow is impressive

 

building a crossbow on your own at the age of 13 is impressive but not to kill somebody with it.

[Braindawg]

They need to come up with a law called a "Fitting and fair punishment"

 

Either they kill him a slow painful death, or they cut both his f*cking arms off.

Locking him up or saying "NO! BAD! U GET SPANKED! BAD!"

 

Won't do sh*t. Cut this f*cking prick's arms off so he can't do jack sh*t anymore. f*cking punk kids I'm sick of hearing about some obsessed kids causing havoc and getting away with it like it's nothing just cause they're under aged.

 

They wanna act like adults? Punish them like adults or even worse. Crazy people like that don't f*cking learn. EVER.

[igotskiz]

While it may have been worded a little insanely and the poster may be slightly inebriated, I have to say agree with the above.

 

I think the issue, like others have said, is people waiting until the cap blows off to care. If they show signs, be there for them. Not exactly saying to overreact and preimptively put them into a mental ward because they're a social outcast or the sort, but if they start showing signs of willingness to agression, then do something.

Edited April 21, 2015 by igotskiz

[SouthLand]

While it may have been worded a little insanely and the poster may be slightly inebriated, I have to say agree with the above.

 

I think the issue, like others have said, is people waiting until the cap blows off to care. If they show signs, be there for them. Not exactly saying to overreact and preimptively put them into a mental ward because they're a social outcast or the sort, but if they start showing signs of willingness to agression, then do something.

 

There was a Chinese girl in my public high school that had a disease that make her look younger than what she was. She was 16 years old and looked like a girl that had 8 years old (i am not kidding). Guys messed up with her a lot but the girls where the ones that really did the harm to her.

I still remember when a classmate threw a chair at her at the end of the lesson. The teacher was still there and saw everything (we all did). Teacher reaction was: "Please don't do that again" and then left. The worst thing i saw was when we had to do a monologue about Spanish Literature and she had to do it and people started throwing stuff at her and the teacher (female) was laughing at her.

 

As i said, Teachers in public schools are civil servants which means, that the only thing they care is getting paid.

[igotskiz]

I've had the pleasure of knowing a handful of teachers throughout my education that would bite down and do anything a student needs, be it a school or home problem. But sadly, you're right. The majority of teachers (that number courtesy of my ass) are just working for their next paycheck. I've had teachers who would get on to their students for asking them questions, or for asking the teacher to slow down or repeat themselves.

 

I mean, why even teach at that point?

Edited April 21, 2015 by igotskiz

[Queen]

I'm offended by the assertion that teachers don't care about their students. I'm one teacher among a wonderful faculty that cares deeply for their students. Don't let the actions of a few selfish teachers spoil your perception of the majority.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Killer Queen

[SouthLand]

I've had the pleasure of knowing a handful of teachers throughout my education that would bite down and do anything a student needs, be it a school or home problem. But sadly, you're right. The majority of teachers (that number courtesy of my ass) are just working for their next paycheck. I've had teachers who would get on to their students for asking them questions, or for asking the teacher to slow down or repeat themselves.

 

I mean, why even teach at that point?

 

I still have in my cellphone audio recordings of different teachers that say stuff like:

 

"Well if you didn't understand the lesson it's your problem guys not mine".

 

"I don't have time for explaining the lesson again"

 

"I am not going to waste my break for you guys"

 

"The lesson is on the board, do your assingment quietly and don't ask me anything"... Teacher reading "Marca" (Sport newspaper) the paper edition.

 

 

I'm offended by the few people asserting that teachers don't care about their students. I'm one teacher among a wonderful faculty that cares deeply for their students. Don't let the actions of a few selfish teachers spoil your perception of the majority.

 

Few? I have never ever had any teacher that was worth it. Well yes I did, but he was bullied by other teacher that didn't like that he was teaching helping kids more than what the Worker's agreement point out. He only was in my school for three months then he left.