Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) What I find hilarious is that ever since its release whenever I am caught in a long distance battle people always whip out this rifle and spam the living sh*t out of it till they hit me eventually. Its a noob's sniper rifle since it does not punish you for not making every shot count and missing the vast majority of the time. A normal sniper rifle has small clips and a low rate of fire to compensate for its high damage and ability to one shot via headshots. Not with this weapon, does the same damage as a normal sniper rifle and can one shot via headshot like the others without the need to actually aim it. I myself refuse to use it out of principle and stick with the Heavy Sniper, landing headshot after headshot without spraying and praying in hopes I hit my target eventually. Its hilarious is that before its release hardly anyone can snipe for sh*t in this game cause its one of the few guns out there that cannot use the aim assist and you actually have to aim, as well as spammers being severely punished for missing their shots. Even with that I win most of my sniper duels against Marksman Rifle spammers, many flip out accusing me of aimbotting for being able to headshot them whilst being able to strafe back and forth simultaneously at full running speed by holding down the A button to sprint whilst strafing. Regardless though I find it insulting how they watered down the skill necessary as a sniper with the introduction of this weapon since it takes very little skill to use since you can just keep spamming it till you hit your target eventually. It went from hardly anyone doing it to everyone doing it since it became so easy a caveman can do it with this weapon equipped. At least they can do is nerf its damage to where it takes 5 or 6 body shots to kill a target instead of just 2 or rarely 3. It should not pack the damage of a true sniper rifle since it barely behaves as one and is more a semi automatic Carbine with a scope attached. With such a huge clip and rate of fire, this should be offset with a very low damage output per shot. That way you can spam to your hearts content but you're gonna have to land more shots to kill your target than the other two rifles, providing an incentive to actually use one of the other two. Every other weapon in the game with large magazines and high rates of fire deal low damage per round so why not the Marksman Rifle? I actually have a weird way I hold my controller whilst sniping, when going into sniping mode I keep my right index finger pressed on the A button at all times to be able to sprint whilst strafing. I use my right thumb on the right analog stick to aim and only occasionally taking it off to make scope adjustments by using my right thumb on the D pad to do the proper adjustments without ever needing to stand still, and lastly I use my right middle finger to take the shot. It looks weird but it gets the job done. Edited April 20, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Son of Lucifer and Ryan1888 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotskiz Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I use it because of the ability to strafe. I don't see how you equate the rifle to being a "noob". Do you even know what the word means? Sithisvoid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 I use it because of the ability to strafe. I don't see how you equate the rifle to being a "noob". Do you even know what the word means? You can strafe with any rifle, I strafe constantly when wielding the Heavy Sniper and you can do the same with the normal rifle as well. Strafing is nothing unique to the Marksman Rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithisvoid Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Heavy sniper is more of a noob weapons IMO even though you unlock it later. Why? It has longer ranger, upgrade-able to a higher magnification sight, and you can one shot in the body. Marksman rifle has a shorter distance scope and less damage. I know because I prefer the noob heavy sniper lol easier kills Edited April 20, 2015 by Sithisvoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Heavy sniper is more of a noob weapons IMO even though you unlock it later. Why? It has longer ranger, upgrade-able to a higher magnification sight, and you can one shot in the body. Marksman rifle has a shorter distance scope and less damage. I know because I prefer the noob heavy sniper lol easier kills Coming from a guy who only uses the Heavy Sniper I can tell you that it does not do one shots to the body anymore, they nerfed that long ago. Its either 2 body shots (or more when the enemy is armored) or a single headshot. Players very often survive the first shot if I miss and it hits him in the torso, leaving me to fire a second shot to finish him off. Also as I said before I prioritize headshots and at the time of writing this, out of the 3556 kills I made with the weapon 2333 of them were headshots, that means well over half of my kills were heashots. Edited April 20, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
后子 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I agree OP. I've never ever as a gamer asked for any weapon in any game to be nerfed, but sometimes it just makes sense. Here's what it really comes down to for good players though: adapt. I think the main way to combat it is to let them hold their marksman rifles, but prevent them the opportunities to pull the trigger on you. And of course almost no one who prefers the marksman rifle will acknowledge your legit points, so get ready for the aggressive replies. Heavy sniper is more of a noob weapons IMO even though you unlock it later. Why? It has longer ranger, upgrade-able to a higher magnification sight, and you can one shot in the body. Marksman rifle has a shorter distance scope and less damage. I know because I prefer the noob heavy sniper lol easier kills What do you mean by "noob"? The damage and scope? It's really how a real sniper rifle should be, that and the silenced sniper rifle. It's simply a better weapon in terms of damage and scope, that doesn't make it nooby does it?. Whether it's a one shot kill to the body or not depends on the player being shot (their armor, IDK if their strength helps, if anyone knows please tell me). By the time anyone unlocks the heavy sniper rifle, they're not a noob anymore, whereas the marksman rifle is available at level one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithisvoid Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smokingApparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Edited April 20, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithisvoid Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. Edited April 20, 2015 by Sithisvoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
后子 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking "So basically you guys think..." We told you what we think and know. Why are you still getting it wrong? How about you please pass us some of what YOU are smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestboy Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I also agree with OP. Tbh I have started using the marksman rifle and agree that it is a noob friendly weapon. I still prefer the heavy rifle but it is easier to use the marksman rifle. + that one or two shots for the heavy sniper requires precision which is something that marksman users don't have Cutter De Blanc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Edited April 20, 2015 by Ghoffman9 后子 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithisvoid Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Aww want to snoop me? Lol crybaby. This thread needs to be moved to the bitch and moan section Edited April 20, 2015 by Sithisvoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Aww want to snoop me? Lol crybaby. This thread needs to be moved to the bitch and moan section "Only a p**ssy would cry about the marksman rifle." This right here confirms it for me, you are one of those Marksman Rifle Spammers, I caught you in your lie. The fact you got nothing else left but ad hominems to throw at me, its very clear I won this debate, you lost. Now take your intellectual dishonesty and childish demeanor and buzz off, the adults are talking. Edited April 20, 2015 by Ghoffman9 后子 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithisvoid Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Aww want to snoop me? Lol crybaby. This thread needs to be moved to the bitch and moan section "Only a p**ssy would cry about the marksman rifle." This right here confirms it for me, you are one of those Marksman Rifle Spammers, I caught you in your lie. The fact you got nothing else left but ad hominems to throw at me, its very clear I won this debate, you lost. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Omg dude you're killing it don't stop i needed a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Aww want to snoop me? Lol crybaby. This thread needs to be moved to the bitch and moan section "Only a p**ssy would cry about the marksman rifle." This right here confirms it for me, you are one of those Marksman Rifle Spammers, I caught you in your lie. The fact you got nothing else left but ad hominems to throw at me, its very clear I won this debate, you lost. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Omg dude you're killing it don't stop i needed a good laugh. Quite the contrary my friend, I am getting a laugh as you continue to make an idiot out of yourself for everyone to see, so please by all means continue. TF141COD and 后子 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithisvoid Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Aww want to snoop me? Lol crybaby. This thread needs to be moved to the bitch and moan section "Only a p**ssy would cry about the marksman rifle." This right here confirms it for me, you are one of those Marksman Rifle Spammers, I caught you in your lie. The fact you got nothing else left but ad hominems to throw at me, its very clear I won this debate, you lost. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Omg dude you're killing it don't stop i needed a good laugh. Quite the contrary my friend, I am getting a laugh as you continue to make an idiot out of yourself for everyone to see, so please by all means continue. Aww I might look bad to crybaby forum dwellers, what ever will i do after this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigenetic Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Seriously though, this didn't need it's own thread. I usually can't stand it when people try to act like mini-mods, but with sh*t like this it's understandable... http://gtaforums.com/topic/681131-gtao-the-official-btch-moan-topic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Aww want to snoop me? Lol crybaby. This thread needs to be moved to the bitch and moan section "Only a p**ssy would cry about the marksman rifle." This right here confirms it for me, you are one of those Marksman Rifle Spammers, I caught you in your lie. The fact you got nothing else left but ad hominems to throw at me, its very clear I won this debate, you lost. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Omg dude you're killing it don't stop i needed a good laugh. Quite the contrary my friend, I am getting a laugh as you continue to make an idiot out of yourself for everyone to see, so please by all means continue. Aww I might look bad to crybaby forum dwellers, what ever will i do after this? Nah you do look bad for being a whiny, immature, marksman rifle spamming, noob who clearly cannot take valid criticism and clearly must have the last word in a "debate" to feel good about themselves. So by all means, have the last word to make your itty bitty feelings feel better. 后子 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithisvoid Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So basically you guys think your one shot OP sniper rifle is fine but the dinky little marksman needs a nerf? Have fun with that and please pass some of what you are smoking Apparently you're not good at paying attention, or reading for that matter. As I already said they nerfed the Heavy Sniper long ago to where a single shot to the body cannot kill the target anymore, it requires two shots (or more when armored) to kill the target when not landing headshots.Look it up Or i can just use it and get one shot kills like i've been doing all month. This apparent lack of knowledge on your part indicates that you in fact do not use the heavy sniper as you originally claimed and you are in fact one of those marksman rifle spammer noobs I was bashing earlier. Anyone who actually uses it would have been well aware of this nerf. Just type in "Heavy Sniper Nerf" in google, there is threads and topics all over the place, you really need to quit living under a rock. You're just very lucky you made your rockstar social club profile private to where I cannot confirm my suspicions. Aww want to snoop me? Lol crybaby. This thread needs to be moved to the bitch and moan section "Only a p**ssy would cry about the marksman rifle." This right here confirms it for me, you are one of those Marksman Rifle Spammers, I caught you in your lie. The fact you got nothing else left but ad hominems to throw at me, its very clear I won this debate, you lost. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Omg dude you're killing it don't stop i needed a good laugh. Quite the contrary my friend, I am getting a laugh as you continue to make an idiot out of yourself for everyone to see, so please by all means continue. Aww I might look bad to crybaby forum dwellers, what ever will i do after this? Nah you do look bad for being a whiny, immature, marksman rifle spamming, noob who clearly cannot take valid criticism and clearly must have the last word in a "debate" to feel good about themselves. So by all means, have the last word to make your itty bitty feelings feel better. I'm not "debating" I'm laughing at you. I'm finished now though enjoy your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranna Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Ya'll are dweebs. It is in the game and they chose to use it. I use minigun in fights because I can. UrbaneVirtuoso, Sithisvoid, DrunkGamer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTTURBO4 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Ya'll are dweebs. It is in the game and they chose to use it. I use minigun in fights because I can. This. Arguments and flames on an interwebbs forum?! OMG!!! This has to be the first time EVER!! Who cares what people use? Adapt and overcome. And here's a secret..... *looks around* ..... don't tell ANYBODY this..... *looks around again*...... *starts to whisper* .... its just a video game..... now DON'T TELL ANYONE!!!!!!! *runs down a wet, dank alley and disappears behind a garbage bin* NOT ANYONE!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBUCKEYE Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 It's kind of like jets in this game. It's annoying as sh*t, but only the ones who can actually use it are deadly. 75% of the people I run into with this gun seem to spray at everything but me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach1bud Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Heavy Sniper was never nerfed. I get one shot body kills all the time with it. It depends on the other players level. High level players may need 2-3 body shots to take them down. Twitter - Instagram - Youtube - Social Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Smasherton Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Heavy Sniper was never nerfed. I get one shot body kills all the time with it. It depends on the other players level. High level players may need 2-3 body shots to take them down. I think this is accurate. I can get one hit kills on some, but not all. But I do see a great deal of heavy sniper nerf topics on Google. Also plausible. But frankly... Who cares? Calling someone a noob for using an effective weapon is so asinine. Congrats on having the skill to be good with an inferior weapon... I guess? This is coming from a guy who doesn't use the marksman. I just prefer the range of the heavy sniper. If I'm close enough to be in range for another player using a marksman, I just zig zag at them into lockon range and nuke em with the advanced rifle. I'm sure someone somewhere will call me a noob for using the advanced rifle. Everything in this game is overpowered, everything should be nerfed and everything is for noobs. Be a man and fist fight me! In real life! You pussies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stew5556 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I use both marksman rifle and heavy snipe. heavy snipe for long distance like roof top sniping, sniping choppas etc, n the marksman rifle short to medium range targets, esp when I have multiple targets. (on ground street fighting or areas like LSC @ burton etc etc or survivals) one thing I really like with the marksman is the ur little dot in the scope turns red when u move ur scope across a player, so if their hiding in bushes ect u can still get em (BANG HA HA) im rank 247 now n I use both so does that make me a noob or half a noob. ( don't answer, don't care). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) There had been many cases where torso shots did not kill my target with the Heavy Sniper and there were many cases where I was shot by one in the torso and walked away from it. This did not used to be the case in the game's youth, as long as the target was hit, the target dies. Even when I shot them in the arms or leg they died, but not anymore. Regardless this does not change the fact that the Marksman Rifle does too much damage per round considering its clip size and fire rate. It only takes 2 or 3 shots to kill a target, the same amount of shots it takes to kill a target with the other two rifles. The only difference being both the other two fire slower and have smaller magazines. There is a reason the vast majority of people these days use the Marksman Rifle above all else. Edited April 21, 2015 by Ghoffman9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach1bud Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) I literally never see anyone using it. All I see are Heavy Snipers. Edited April 21, 2015 by Mach1bud Twitter - Instagram - Youtube - Social Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 While you babies keep bickering about the marksman rifle, ill keep using it and destroying wannabe snipers since most take 18 years to zoom in all the way and aim stew5556 and Lord_Smasherton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Lucifer Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 There is really no argument, High levels are high levels and should not be f*cked with. Simple, the heavy sniper is a gun you actually have to work for whereas the marksman is buy-able at any level, too much bullets in one mag. Too much damage. End of. JulesDennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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