Why is the Kurama so OP?

[bonusbertie]

 

 

I don't think this guy is paying any attention to what's going on in this thread. It's kinda pointless debating something with someone thats not even debating. Nothing is "op", you just don't agree with it.

 

The vehicle isn't this magical dragon that you fly and can't be shot down, that breathe fire and can kill you from across the map. It doesn't have a rocket launcher that fires out of its ass.

 

This is just POINTLESS and STUPID now DEBATING with someone that DOESN'T want to DEBATE things. They just want people to agree and like their comments.

Oh dear. Someone seems not to have taken their medicine today.

 

So let's get down to brass tacks Mr Chloroform:

 

- You disagree that using the Kuruma in missions doesnt give you a inordinately huge advantage much more than any other car?

 

- You disagree that (in missions) the car is pretty much indestructablie against NPC's?

 

Lets start with those two and we can have a debate Sir, the floor is yours.

Sure it gives you an advantage but geez let me think, isn't that what an ARMORED vehicle is suppose to do? Also your two "points" in the last post are pretty much the same just rewored.

 

 

So it gives you a huge advantage more than any other car and it's also practically indestructable from other NPC's during missions. Thanks for agreeing.

 

You, and others, obviously don't mind having an in game tool which negates mostly all skill. That great, I am exceptionally and thouroughly chuffed that you like to do things the absolutley easiest way possible.

 

Quick question to wrap this up:

 

If you start a mission, and, at the bottom of the screen appears a selectable button "Complete Mission With 100% Cash and RP Awarded" would you just click the button, collect the cash, and repeat until you ran out of zeroes on your bank account?

 

I am just interested to find out the point where you want to put ANY effort into a videogame, or if you just want to lie back and let the game play itself. Or does that point even exist in your mind? Genuinely interested in your reply btw.

 

Let's hear it Mr Chloroform. Just how easy do you want your games?

Edited April 20, 2015 by bonusbertie

[GR Choke]

^ f*ck RP i want the cash

[Fidzy]

 

It's an armoured car. It's not OP.

 

Want missions to be fun? Don't do them with randoms then.

I never asked if it was OP or not. That's not up for debate.

 

I asked why it was so OP and why would Rockstar provide such a car, but thanks.

 

stop moaning

[Chloroform]

^ f*ck RP i want the cash

I know right? I'm already past the highest level that matters, give me that cash.

[MrMunchs]

OP = over priced?

Mine sleeps in the garage all the time, I only use it for missions, same as the insurgent.

If he could handle more than one rpg and you can use grenades will be overpowered, but as is...No.

[bloatedsack]

Actually, the OP was originally about the Kuruma in missions being "over powered" and funsucking.

 

This thread has since wandered over to other topics, such as the car in freeroam. It freeroam it's irritating but as pointed out it only takes one bomb to take it out, the heavy shotgun removes doors, and the assault shotgun will throw so much lead at it that it'll go through the windows.

 

None of those facts apply to the actual OP complaint: It's a tryhard move in missions.

 

I've never seen a mission where a ground opponent has an RPG, grenade, sticky or a heavy/assault shotgun. The NPCs don't line up and shoot through the windows. You can drive your armoured Kuruma straight into 30 of them and you'll likely do no worse than loose your armour by the time yo're done slaughtering them all with the AP out the windows.

 

That's what makes it a sh*tty, overpowered, and fun sucking car for missions. It's lamer than people backing up their Zentoros and just shooting out the back because it's got BP from all sides.

 

 

In public freeroams it's a brilliant equalizer. I can drive down the street past a group of idiots and not worry at being autoaimed by the lowliest of them all. I won't argue that at all.

[JakeHorgrove]

The Kuruma is not OP. It is a armored car.

 

The real question is should it be online. I'm surprised Rockstar put it online to be honest, buts that's the way it's going. Gotta learn to adapt or stop playing.

 

I hear what your saying about it making missions boring, but I really don't know what to tell you except don't worry about what other players do.

[LBCWorldWide]

Actually, the OP was originally about the Kuruma in missions being "over powered" and funsucking.

 

This thread has since wandered over to other topics, such as the car in freeroam. It freeroam it's irritating but as pointed out it only takes one bomb to take it out, the heavy shotgun removes doors, and the assault shotgun will throw so much lead at it that it'll go through the windows.

 

None of those facts apply to the actual OP complaint: It's a tryhard move in missions.

 

I've never seen a mission where a ground opponent has an RPG, grenade, sticky or a heavy/assault shotgun. The NPCs don't line up and shoot through the windows. You can drive your armoured Kuruma straight into 30 of them and you'll likely do no worse than loose your armour by the time yo're done slaughtering them all with the AP out the windows.

 

That's what makes it a sh*tty, overpowered, and fun sucking car for missions. It's lamer than people backing up their Zentoros and just shooting out the back because it's got BP from all sides.

 

 

In public freeroams it's a brilliant equalizer. I can drive down the street past a group of idiots and not worry at being autoaimed by the lowliest of them all. I won't argue that at all.

Docks to Stock I & II. Enemy RPG. Armored /= blow up proof. Not OP by any means or in any fashion.

 

LBC

[am30]

 

 

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

 

Zero skill and zero fun.

 

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

 

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

 

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

 

Thoughts guys?

Its not OP

1. Its an Armored car

2. You can take it out with just one Sticky bomb, missile or Grenade

 

 

It is OP. It is practically invincible in the large majority of missions, rendering them (the missions) almost completely meaningless and deviod of any challenge. Practically the very definition of OP right there. Skill is almost completely removed.

 

1. Well thanks, yay.

2. See that happening much in missions (NPCs using shottys or stick bombs to blow up the Kuruma) do you?

 

Nope? Thought not. It's OP.

 

It's hardly up for debate guys. Big props to the guys who have said "Yeah, so what, it makes it easier for me." At least a bit of honesty there, which we can all appreciate.I very much look forward to the Cloak of Invincibility And Guiding in the next patch which will actually complete the missions for you 100% every time whilst you can concentrate on licking bus windows.

 

But, of course, you will say that is not OP too "BECAUSE IT'S THE CLOAK OF INVINCIBITY AND GUIDING WEIRDO, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!"

 

Talk about missing the point (again and again.)

 

 

I can only assume you are an idiot as you are still flogging a dead horse.

 

2 questions:

 

1. Why are you crying about making money in GTA becoming even easier than it already was?

2. Why are you playing missions with randoms?

 

As has already been explained to you, it is not OP. That is what is not up for debate.

[Rammer2k]

The Kuruma is only OP against NPC's during missions. It's a must when playing Heist missions on Hard, and with randoms. You can still get shot though from time to time. Against other players, it's still as vulnerable as a bike. A simple Sticky Bomb, Proxy Mine, or RPG will take care of any Kuruma Troll.

 

It's basically the reverse of the Insurgent. It can withstand multiple explosive rounds, but is quite open to gun fire. Which is why they are quite balanced actually. Dealing with them just involves.........wait for it.............

 

Strategy, and thinking.

[Furry_Monkey]

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

 

Zero skill and zero fun.

 

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

 

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

 

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

 

Thoughts guys?

 

*kuruma*

 

To answer your post...

 

Thoughts?

 

There are millions of people playing this game and most of them do not do what you described. If you keep getting someone doing that then he's a friend or a friend of a friend.

 

Take the money at the end of the mission and then find some other people to play with.

 

 

To answer the thread title...

 

It's not.

Edited April 20, 2015 by Furry_Monkey

[am30]

You can use a tank in a mission. It's heavily armoured and has a pretty big gun. I guess it's OP(!)

[Chloroform]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

 

Zero skill and zero fun.

 

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

 

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

 

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

 

Thoughts guys?

Its not OP

1. Its an Armored car

2. You can take it out with just one Sticky bomb, missile or Grenade

 

It is OP. It is practically invincible in the large majority of missions, rendering them (the missions) almost completely meaningless and deviod of any challenge. Practically the very definition of OP right there. Skill is almost completely removed.

 

1. Well thanks, yay.

2. See that happening much in missions (NPCs using shottys or stick bombs to blow up the Kuruma) do you?

 

Nope? Thought not. It's OP.

 

It's hardly up for debate guys. Big props to the guys who have said "Yeah, so what, it makes it easier for me." At least a bit of honesty there, which we can all appreciate.I very much look forward to the Cloak of Invincibility And Guiding in the next patch which will actually complete the missions for you 100% every time whilst you can concentrate on licking bus windows.

 

But, of course, you will say that is not OP too "BECAUSE IT'S THE CLOAK OF INVINCIBITY AND GUIDING WEIRDO, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!"

 

Talk about missing the point (again and again.)

 

I can only assume you are an idiot as you are still flogging a dead horse.

 

2 questions:

 

1. Why are you crying about making money in GTA becoming even easier than it already was?

2. Why are you playing missions with randoms?

 

As has already been explained to you, it is not OP. That is what is not up for debate.

I dislike making money in gtao. Npcs have an advantage with their excellent marksmanship and I shouldn't have any advantage against them. That's what they'll say hahah.

[Halal Cyborg]

Just ran over some french people that were afk while I did an entire mission solo in a kuruma...it's op

 

I also took the evidence to the top of maze bank and wsited for them to leave...the savage, maze bank tower and evidence is op durr.

[gengas]

my .50 heavy pistol is OP

[Furry_Monkey]

Just ran over some french people that were afk while I did an entire mission solo in a kuruma...it's op

 

I also took the evidence to the top of maze bank and wsited for them to leave...the savage, maze bank tower and evidence is op durr.

 

[Halal Cyborg]

I cackled into my kinect and listened to their cries of sacre bleu...tbf that's my way of dealing with all afks but listening to them was very satisfying indeed!

[bonusbertie]

Actually, the OP was originally about the Kuruma in missions being "over powered" and funsucking.

 

This thread has since wandered over to other topics, such as the car in freeroam. It freeroam it's irritating but as pointed out it only takes one bomb to take it out, the heavy shotgun removes doors, and the assault shotgun will throw so much lead at it that it'll go through the windows.

 

None of those facts apply to the actual OP complaint: It's a tryhard move in missions.

 

I've never seen a mission where a ground opponent has an RPG, grenade, sticky or a heavy/assault shotgun. The NPCs don't line up and shoot through the windows. You can drive your armoured Kuruma straight into 30 of them and you'll likely do no worse than loose your armour by the time yo're done slaughtering them all with the AP out the windows.

 

That's what makes it a sh*tty, overpowered, and fun sucking car for missions. It's lamer than people backing up their Zentoros and just shooting out the back because it's got BP from all sides.

 

 

In public freeroams it's a brilliant equalizer. I can drive down the street past a group of idiots and not worry at being autoaimed by the lowliest of them all. I won't argue that at all.

 

ABSOLUTELY spot on.

 

Every.

 

Single.

 

Word.

 

Although many will, it's almost impossible to logically argue against this.

 

I've only ever spoke about in missions and the tendency to drag this off into other topics has been interesting to watch.

 

Once again (and thanks) the Kuruma is overpowered during missions and is runing the experience for many. Asking to not play with randoms still does not fix the problem at its core and is completely avoiding the point. As is saying "it's armoured" ad infinitum, like it's some sort of revelation.

The Kuruma is only OP against NPC's during missions. It's a must when playing Heist missions on Hard, and with randoms. You can still get shot though from time to time. Against other players, it's still as vulnerable as a bike. A simple Sticky Bomb, Proxy Mine, or RPG will take care of any Kuruma Troll.

 

It's basically the reverse of the Insurgent. It can withstand multiple explosive rounds, but is quite open to gun fire. Which is why they are quite balanced actually. Dealing with them just involves.........wait for it.............

 

Strategy, and thinking.

 

That's ALL I ever said friend.

[Alec Skorpio]

It sounds like it's ruining the experience for you, not many.

 

Telling you to not play with ransoms does fix the problem at its core since you are the one with the problem, not the rest of the community.

[Halal Cyborg]

I would like it if they added more missions as due to understanding of game mechanics I am too op.

[bonusbertie]

 

 

 

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

 

Zero skill and zero fun.

 

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

 

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

 

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

 

Thoughts guys?

Its not OP

1. Its an Armored car

2. You can take it out with just one Sticky bomb, missile or Grenade

 

 

It is OP. It is practically invincible in the large majority of missions, rendering them (the missions) almost completely meaningless and deviod of any challenge. Practically the very definition of OP right there. Skill is almost completely removed.

 

1. Well thanks, yay.

2. See that happening much in missions (NPCs using shottys or stick bombs to blow up the Kuruma) do you?

 

Nope? Thought not. It's OP.

 

It's hardly up for debate guys. Big props to the guys who have said "Yeah, so what, it makes it easier for me." At least a bit of honesty there, which we can all appreciate.I very much look forward to the Cloak of Invincibility And Guiding in the next patch which will actually complete the missions for you 100% every time whilst you can concentrate on licking bus windows.

 

But, of course, you will say that is not OP too "BECAUSE IT'S THE CLOAK OF INVINCIBITY AND GUIDING WEIRDO, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!"

 

Talk about missing the point (again and again.)

 

 

I can only assume you are an idiot as you are still flogging a dead horse.

 

2 questions:

 

1. Why are you crying about making money in GTA becoming even easier than it already was?

2. Why are you playing missions with randoms?

 

As has already been explained to you, it is not OP. That is what is not up for debate.

 

 

Wow. Pretty stiff insults in this internet age there. You got me - I am a crying child who is very upset.

 

Is this what I am up against? Holy f*ck. Are facepalms still a thing?

 

F*ck me, your even admitting it's been made much easier. Wel, if it has it not through your skill is it? Someone just came along and gave you a big toy so you could sit in what would be a dangerous position in, wait for it, no danger..

 

Repeat after me over-pow-ered.

[Lay]

Snacks are OP. No way should drinking Coke extend my life.

[bonusbertie]

I would like it if they added more missions as due to understanding of game mechanics I am too op.

 

Yet another person avoiding the topic. Only here for the lolz right? Hahahahahaha....ehm.

 

Understanding the game mechanics you say. So you played the game and learned how to beat it? That's a cool story bro but here's the rub:

 

With a Kuruma you don't need to learn f*ck all. Just get in (during a mission) and you're safe.

 

Seeing the difference now? You're very very welcome.

Edited April 20, 2015 by bonusbertie

[Chloroform]

Snacks are OP. No way should drinking Coke extend my life.

Right? But you won't see people complaining about that because it's something they agree with. It's only the things they don't agree with that are "op"

Edited April 20, 2015 by Chloroform

[Elric_Francis92]

 

 

 

It's an armoured car. It's not OP.

 

Want missions to be fun? Don't do them with randoms then.

I never asked if it was OP or not. That's not up for debate.

I asked why it was so OP and why would Rockstar provide such a car, but thanks.

But it isn't OP so therefore your question is redundant.

But it is. It's a vehicle which takes practically all skill out of many missions. Maybe you misunderstand what OP means?

 

Maybe we could agree to disagree, as tremendously fun this has been.

 

 

Yes because you don't have enough chromosomes to grasp the concept you are wrong. Oh and writing that was very enjoyable =)

[am30]

 

 

 

 

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

 

Zero skill and zero fun.

 

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

 

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

 

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

 

Thoughts guys?

Its not OP

1. Its an Armored car

2. You can take it out with just one Sticky bomb, missile or Grenade

 

 

It is OP. It is practically invincible in the large majority of missions, rendering them (the missions) almost completely meaningless and deviod of any challenge. Practically the very definition of OP right there. Skill is almost completely removed.

 

1. Well thanks, yay.

2. See that happening much in missions (NPCs using shottys or stick bombs to blow up the Kuruma) do you?

 

Nope? Thought not. It's OP.

 

It's hardly up for debate guys. Big props to the guys who have said "Yeah, so what, it makes it easier for me." At least a bit of honesty there, which we can all appreciate.I very much look forward to the Cloak of Invincibility And Guiding in the next patch which will actually complete the missions for you 100% every time whilst you can concentrate on licking bus windows.

 

But, of course, you will say that is not OP too "BECAUSE IT'S THE CLOAK OF INVINCIBITY AND GUIDING WEIRDO, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!"

 

Talk about missing the point (again and again.)

 

 

I can only assume you are an idiot as you are still flogging a dead horse.

 

2 questions:

 

1. Why are you crying about making money in GTA becoming even easier than it already was?

2. Why are you playing missions with randoms?

 

As has already been explained to you, it is not OP. That is what is not up for debate.

 

 

Wow. Pretty stiff insults in this internet age there. You got me - I am a crying child who is very upset.

 

Is this what I am up against? Holy f*ck. Are facepalms still a thing?

 

F*ck me, your even admitting it's been made much easier. Wel, if it has it not through your skill is it? Someone just came along and gave you a big toy so you could sit in what would be a dangerous position in, wait for it, no danger..

 

Repeat after me over-pow-ered.

 

 

Being made easier =/= OP.

 

By your logic (if we can even call it that) the Hydra is OP as I just used to to complete Extradition without taking any damage.

[bonusbertie]

 

 

 

 

It's an armoured car. It's not OP.

 

Want missions to be fun? Don't do them with randoms then.

I never asked if it was OP or not. That's not up for debate.

I asked why it was so OP and why would Rockstar provide such a car, but thanks.

But it isn't OP so therefore your question is redundant.

But it is. It's a vehicle which takes practically all skill out of many missions. Maybe you misunderstand what OP means?

 

Maybe we could agree to disagree, as tremendously fun this has been.

 

 

Yes because you don't have enough chromosomes to grasp the concept you are wrong. Oh and writing that was very enjoyable =)

 

 

Yet you fail to say why? I am glad you enjoyed mindlessly insulting someone and avoiding the subject. If being lazy is your "thing" can I introduce you to...the Kuruma?

[Furry_Monkey]

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

Zero skill and zero fun.

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

Thoughts guys?

 

*kuruma*

 

 

To answer your post...

 

Thoughts?

 

There are millions of people playing this game and most of them do not do what you described. If you keep getting someone doing that then he's a friend or a friend of a friend.

 

Take the money at the end of the mission and then find some other people to play with.

 

 

To answer the thread title...

 

It's not.

Edited April 20, 2015 by Furry_Monkey

[bonusbertie]

 

 

 

 

 

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

 

Zero skill and zero fun.

 

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

 

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

 

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

 

Thoughts guys?

Its not OP

1. Its an Armored car

2. You can take it out with just one Sticky bomb, missile or Grenade

 

 

It is OP. It is practically invincible in the large majority of missions, rendering them (the missions) almost completely meaningless and deviod of any challenge. Practically the very definition of OP right there. Skill is almost completely removed.

 

1. Well thanks, yay.

2. See that happening much in missions (NPCs using shottys or stick bombs to blow up the Kuruma) do you?

 

Nope? Thought not. It's OP.

 

It's hardly up for debate guys. Big props to the guys who have said "Yeah, so what, it makes it easier for me." At least a bit of honesty there, which we can all appreciate.I very much look forward to the Cloak of Invincibility And Guiding in the next patch which will actually complete the missions for you 100% every time whilst you can concentrate on licking bus windows.

 

But, of course, you will say that is not OP too "BECAUSE IT'S THE CLOAK OF INVINCIBITY AND GUIDING WEIRDO, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!"

 

Talk about missing the point (again and again.)

 

 

I can only assume you are an idiot as you are still flogging a dead horse.

 

2 questions:

 

1. Why are you crying about making money in GTA becoming even easier than it already was?

2. Why are you playing missions with randoms?

 

As has already been explained to you, it is not OP. That is what is not up for debate.

 

 

Wow. Pretty stiff insults in this internet age there. You got me - I am a crying child who is very upset.

 

Is this what I am up against? Holy f*ck. Are facepalms still a thing?

 

F*ck me, your even admitting it's been made much easier. Wel, if it has it not through your skill is it? Someone just came along and gave you a big toy so you could sit in what would be a dangerous position in, wait for it, no danger..

 

Repeat after me over-pow-ered.

 

 

Being made easier =/= OP.

 

By your logic (if we can even call it that) the Hydra is OP as I just used to to complete Extradition without taking any damage.

 

 

Not by my logic at all, sorry. My problem, which is made clear in the original post should you care to re-read, is that the Kuruma "spoils" many missions by removing any sense of challenge.

 

That's, like, completely different from your Hydra diversion re a singular mission.

 

*fights off a yawn*

 

Next?

[bonusbertie]

 

Snacks are OP. No way should drinking Coke extend my life.

Right? But you won't see people complaining about that because it's something they agree with. It's only the things they don't agree with that are "op"

 

 

OOh - we've resorted to speaking about snacks now have we? Bwahahahahaha.

 

Ahem.....sorry. But that's laughable.

 

And if you REALLY want me to answer it. Eating snacks is consistent with mostly any other game in which you regenerate health...so not OP.

 

Can we maybe try and find some asinine anaolgy about kittens next? You are trying (and failing) with most other things

Edited April 20, 2015 by bonusbertie