Why is the Kurama so OP?

[luisniko]

 

Guys! Why are my characters so OP? They can sprint without getting tired!! So game breaking!!!

 

Guys! Why are the guns are so OP? I can shoot without it having a chance to stuck! So unrealistic!!!

 

Guys! Why are the vehicles are so OP?! It can keep running top speed without gas! This is ridiculous!!!

 

Guys! Why are Auto-Aim are so OP?! I can literally automatically aim at player and NPC! This is awful!!!

 

 

There you go. More problems on your shoulder to think about.

Thanks for that effort. However none of those "problems" turn missions into a zero skill jaunt, which is the point.

 

I get you can't answer that and instead you just want to denegrate and deflect. A fairly normal response when you don't want to, or can't, engage properly.

 

All good.

 

 

You want normal response?

 

Be my guest:

 

Armored Kuruma balance the extreme damage and accuracy of enemy's. The difference the Armored Kuruma gives is that it has smaller window, which slightly lower the chance of getting bullets in your head than any normal car. Even so, the doors have low durability which once they're dropped, you'll be very vulnerable to get shot. Armored Kuruma also only lets you to shoot frontal, even without doors. Armored Kuruma, unlike the Insurgent, is still easily to get stopped or knocked out by rock-mass NPC car. Also, Armored Kuruma is vulnerable towards explosions. And for sure, Armored Kuruma can't deform on its own and enter building and tight space to protect yourself anywhere and whenever you want.

 

Fun fact: Armored Kuruma is armored. The job of this car is to give extra protection than normal cars, although not perfect. It has stronger body to protect any frontal damage and bullets to the engine.

 

Conclusion: Helpful, but not OP

 

Source: I own one

 

 

Inb4 disagreement.

 

Otherwise, '/thread'.

Edited April 20, 2015 by luisniko

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

 

It's an armoured car. It's not OP.

 

Want missions to be fun? Don't do them with randoms then.

I never asked if it was OP or not. That's not up for debate.

I asked why it was so OP and why would Rockstar provide such a car, but thanks.

But it isn't OP so therefore your question is redundant.

But it is. It's a vehicle which takes practically all skill out of many missions. Maybe you misunderstand what OP means?

 

Maybe we could agree to disagree, as tremendously fun this has been.

 

 

That is going off the presumption that missions in GTA:O even take skill. I mean we are talking about video games here. "Skill" isn't really something that is required.

Edited April 20, 2015 by CaliMeatWagon

[SemperJ550]

Remove insurance costs on f*cking armored personal vehicles

*Random griefer piece of sh*t drives up in Insurgent and attempts to kill you

*Defend yourself by blowing that piece of sh*ts truck half way to hell

*17 grand.. how dare you defend yourself against random assholes!

 

If you cause any kind of damage to another player and they destroy your Karuma/Insurgent you should f*cking have to pay. Call it the dickwad toll.

Edited April 20, 2015 by Semperfiman550

[Vicarious Mind]

Remove bad sport and insurance cost for blowing up the insurgent and kuruma

[LBCWorldWide]

 

 

 

Guys! Why are my characters so OP? They can sprint without getting tired!! So game breaking!!!

 

Guys! Why are the guns are so OP? I can shoot without it having a chance to stuck! So unrealistic!!!

 

Guys! Why are the vehicles are so OP?! It can keep running top speed without gas! This is ridiculous!!!

 

Guys! Why are Auto-Aim are so OP?! I can literally automatically aim at player and NPC! This is awful!!!

 

 

There you go. More problems on your shoulder to think about.

Thanks for that effort. However none of those "problems" turn missions into a zero skill jaunt, which is the point.

 

I get you can't answer that and instead you just want to denegrate and deflect. A fairly normal response when you don't want to, or can't, engage properly.

 

All good.

 

You want normal response?

 

Be my guest:

 

Armored Kuruma balance the extreme damage and accuracy of enemy's. The difference the Armored Kuruma gives is that it has smaller window, which slightly lower the chance of getting bullets in your head than any normal car. Even so, the doors have low durability which once they're dropped, you'll be very vulnerable to get shot. Armored Kuruma also only lets you to shoot frontal, even without doors. Armored Kuruma, unlike the Insurgent, is still easily to get stopped or knocked out by rock-mass NPC car. Also, Armored Kuruma is vulnerable towards explosions. And for sure, Armored Kuruma can't deform on its own and enter building and tight space to protect yourself anywhere and whenever you want.

 

Fun fact: Armored Kuruma is armored. The job of this car is to give extra protection than normal cars, although not perfect. It has stronger body to protect any frontal damage and bullets to the engine.

 

Conclusion: Helpful, but not OP

 

Source: I own one

 

 

Inb4 disagreement.

 

Otherwise, '/thread'.

You're either a terrible liar or completely clueless. You got told, and you're being told again on your short-short-sighted, quick to reply, drivel.

 

LBC

[KingpinRCR]

 

Remove insurance costs on f*cking armored personal vehicles

 

If you cause any kind of damage to another player and they destroy your Karuma/Insurgent you should f*cking have to pay. Call it the dickwad toll.

So, I'm driving the kuruma and you shoot at me first, I shoot back at you to defend myself, you bring out the rpg and i would have to pay for it?

 

OT, it isn't OP. If it is than lots of thing are OP in this game, topicstarter is probably just mad because now it isn't as easy anymore to shoot somebody out of his car and doesn't like paying the insurance for blowing it up with no reason.

[IcePwrd]

Remove bad sport and insurance cost for blowing up the insurgent and kuruma

 

I've blown up insurgents plenty of times and not had to pay insurance.

 

Kuruma is just a car, paying insurance is fair enough.

[LBCWorldWide]

 

 

Remove bad sport and insurance cost for blowing up the insurgent and kuruma

I've blown up insurgents plenty of times and not had to pay insurance.

 

Kuruma is just a car, paying insurance is fair enough.

Being a no-pay griefer is the lowest of the low...at least be somewhat dignified in your asshatery and pay for your shenanigans...for shame.

 

LBC

[REDDICE]

They should make it so that no one has to pay insurance for armored cars when its being driven. You literally have no choice but to blow up the Kuruma and pay nearly $7000 just to get that jackass.

[Assasin_Zack]

They should make it so that no one has to pay insurance for armored cars when its being driven. You literally have no choice but to blow up the Kuruma and pay nearly $7000 just to get that jackass.

Heavy shotgun to the doors, they slide of like butter.

 

I personally don't dislike the Kuruma, it's pretty cool and something new. But I find it over used. I can't get in a Freeroam battle without some prick attacking you with these. It is hard to take one down but not impossible.

[Chloroform]

So I guess in the world of gtao we don't have a right to protect ourselves? Armor vehicles are suppose to PROTECT us, not this "oh wait, that's too much" bullsh*t. Man I tell you this forum and community sometimes seems like they want this game to turn to sh*t.

[bloatedsack]

The easiest solve to the problem is not to let people shoot out of it. No bombs, no guns, just a big ole impenetrable box.

 

I like the idea of the thing as it made getting stuck in public sessions much more tolerable, but OP's right: It's a cop out to just drive into everything and kill. Not just missions, but in hists.

[Sky_Light12]

well , use explosives , it's not that hard to destroy an armored car

 

and if OP didn't notice , use heavy shotgun . this weapon can just remove the kuruma's parts with only one shot

also it's best when facing the kuruma on deserted areas , as it's difficult to handle

[Chloroform]

The easiest solve to the problem is not to let people shoot out of it. No bombs, no guns, just a big ole impenetrable box.

 

I like the idea of the thing as it made getting stuck in public sessions much more tolerable, but OP's right: It's a cop out to just drive into everything and kill. Not just missions, but in hists.

So no fun should be had in it? Seems kinda pointless to me.

[Van_Hellsing]

Why are a lot of people so upset about the Kuruma? Most randummies HAVE zero skill. They do not take cover, do not use snacks or bodyarmor and go all Leeroy Jenkins rushing to their death. It is better to rush in with an armored car, get it done, before some noob dies.

 

Some setups are stupid but necessary to get to the finale. Let's get it over quickly. If it takes "cheating" with a Kuruma, so be it.

 

Lesson number one in a dogfight: there is no such thing as a fair fight, chivalry or white knights. There are only the winners and the dead. In GTA there are the rich and the constantly broke. And I am rich.

Edited April 20, 2015 by Van_Hellsing

[oleg_aka_djmeg]

wtf is a kurama

[Bnd]

Kurama is Brother of Karin Snipe :')

[bloatedsack]

What a lot of people seem to be missing is that it sucks the last bit of fun out of the missions we've all done over 1000 times.

 

Now I'm no longer playing a game, I'm pressing a button. I might as well get a second job and buy cash cards. If your only point is to earn as much fake money as you can as quickly as you can, fine then it's everything you want. But if you want to enjoy the grind, there's no point left.

[External1989]

I get the point what he's saying that the car is OP and when you do missions there 0 to no skill you need to complete it , you just sit in the car and shoot everyone till there dead , but as other people are saying it is stated as an " armoured car" so yeah that's that.

What i want to add to this is , whenever i'm playing with random people there's allways 1 or 2 guys that have no idea what there doing or they don't speak anglish and just f*ck everything up , wich makes it frustrating , and thats why i allways take the Kurama with me on missions , just because of this. Now if you would like a challenge in missions get 3 other people you know put it on hard and get normal cars , but getting 3 random people who know what they are doing is just to rare...

 

As in freemode the kurama does have his advantages aswell like you won't get shots with normal guns , some guy said if you keep shooting or have the perfect angle it will penetrate but i haven't had this yet , a friend even unloaded 2000 normal carbine rounds in my car , and i came out unharmed however a higher caliber gun ( 50 calls or so) will penetrate and f*ck you up in no time.

[The_B1u3_Jay]

Its not OP when you can shoot off all of the doors with a heavy shotgun...

[Misanthrope Z]

 

The easiest solve to the problem is not to let people shoot out of it. No bombs, no guns, just a big ole impenetrable box.

 

I like the idea of the thing as it made getting stuck in public sessions much more tolerable, but OP's right: It's a cop out to just drive into everything and kill. Not just missions, but in hists.

So no fun should be had in it? Seems kinda pointless to me.

 

^this

 

 

 

also, shooting out of it is a bit more difficult than in any other car, since the armored plates get in the way- there are huge margins that you can't shoot from, meaning you're a sitting duck depending on how the car is angled. also, since WHEN was it even possible to drop bombs out of the armored kuruma?

 

 

 

if anyone has that much trouble shooting the driver out, they could just easily blow it up.

 

now i know someone might come out and say "BUT IT COSTS MONEY!!!!". trust me, i think the insurance claims in this game are stupid too, but that money lost isn't hard to come by. go rob a f*cking store.

[DISTRICT7642]

All i care about is making money. The Armored Kuruma helps me with that.

The faster the better.

[elfoam]

I'm sure all the new missions added from now on will have rpgs and grenade launchers added. That'll make you think twice about taking a car in especially if you have to pay your own insurance for taking the car into a war zone .

 

I don't find it op in freeroam, anyone that tries to grief me in one gets swiftly blown up. It's useless against explosives unlike the insurgent.

Edited April 20, 2015 by elfoam

[7nvd]

I don't want to get sucked in this discussion too much. But as far as OP's complaints about people using Karuma's in every mission, without getting out of the car? I hate that, almost just as much as people using the Buzzard in every single mission.

 

I'm fine with people using the items for certain situations, but not all the time please, mix it up folks!

[-----]

Should be a Pegasus vehicle in my opinion

[JC Hammer]

I don't want to get sucked in this discussion too much. But as far as OP's complaints about people using Karuma's in every mission, without getting out of the car? I hate that, almost just as much as people using the Buzzard in every single mission.

 

I'm fine with people using the items for certain situations, but not all the time please, mix it up folk

 

Yes, everyone should use the broken bottle all the time

 

I spent $525,000 on a Karuma why wouldn't I use it in missions?

[7nvd]

 

 

I don't want to get sucked in this discussion too much. But as far as OP's complaints about people using Karuma's in every mission, without getting out of the car? I hate that, almost just as much as people using the Buzzard in every single mission.

 

I'm fine with people using the items for certain situations, but not all the time please, mix it up folk

 

Yes, everyone should use the broken bottle all the time

 

I spent $525,000 on a Karuma why wouldn't I use it in missions?

Damn son, did you even read my post?

 

Besides, you paid a lot more for your other vehicles, so your point is invalid.

[JC Hammer]

 

 

I don't want to get sucked in this discussion too much. But as far as OP's complaints about people using Karuma's in every mission, without getting out of the car? I hate that, almost just as much as people using the Buzzard in every single mission.

 

I'm fine with people using the items for certain situations, but not all the time please, mix it up folk

 

Yes, everyone should use the broken bottle all the time

 

I spent $525,000 on a Karuma why wouldn't I use it in missions?

Damn son, did you even read my post?

 

Besides, you paid a lot more for your other vehicles, so your point is invalid.

 

 

Ya, I read it....

 

Your a peasant who blew all his cash in freeroam so you don't like other players using expensive cars and Choppers and showing you up!

 

The difference in the $500 large I spent on the Karuma is that like the Buzzard, I bought it specifically to do missions, so I'm gonna use them,

 

But I usually only solo missions so I won't be showing you up

[..GhosT]

The fact that it has bullet proof windows makes it horribly overpowered.

 

The windows should break or the doors should fall off.

[Geisterfaust]

Quite a few missions I enter have one guy in a Kurama just speeding in amongst the bad guys and sitting shooting everyone out of the window until everyone is dead.

 

Zero skill and zero fun.

 

Why have Rockstar given people such a powerful car to people which makes large parts of the game redundant?

 

It's a bit of a gamebreaker which is a real shame.

 

If you start a mission and someone has a Kurama you may as well put down the pad and let them get on with it as you are barely required.

 

Thoughts guys?

First of all, try to spell vehicle name correctly. It's GTA3 based classics, so show some respect for the old timers.

Nothing is OP in this game and you will need to play for some time to understand that. I'm playing since 2013 and I can assure you, there are reasons why even skilled players are using Kurumas on missions: you need to do missions over and over to gain money and it's not about challenge anymore after you reach certain rank.

 

And another thing: due to the extremely poor AI design and lazy programming, enemy NPCs are so talented that they can shoot you with a pistol from sniper distance or hit you while you're in helicopter and they're in the car on the ground. On the move.

In some missions enemies are spawning indefinitely or spawning just behind your back. It's poor design.

 

TL;DR: Kuruma is the best solution for people who are annoyed by mission marines.

Edited April 20, 2015 by hei3enberg