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He was on the FIB most wanted, he stole 200 Million Dollars worth of gold from the Union Depository, Stole a deadly nerve toxin from a guarded Noose base and committed multiple armed robberies. Your opinions on his character and the story are irrelevant. He actually DID all those things. He worked with the FIB for most of them but it was still illegal. You don't have to be a criminal to be a thief. That's why he's on the list. Now, I just can't wait till GTA VI comes out and all of you start praising every single aspect in GTA V because it WILL happen. For some reason, people seem to bitch about every single thing about a new GTA game and praise the game that came before it. So I don't expect this to be any different.

Agree with you but i don't agree with people will praise the game eventually..................due to the players who hated gta v are the most active ones in the forums attacking anyone who likes it everyday since the release so there is a little chance...............Unless of course (gta vi or what the name will be sucked hard as mass effect 3 ending sucked then people will start praising the game i guarantee that to you.

 

Honestly, I do praise V, don't get me wrong, it's just you V fans easliy don't get my criticism about it's story and gameplay. I mean, it's a really good game, those people who are saying V sucks are just trolls or people wanting attention. There are many mistakes, but you guys need to get that most of us fans of GTA really like V, it's just the game is heavily flawed. You guys need to accept constructive criticism, because these are my opinion and despite the many times you persuade, my opinion won't change.

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He was on the FIB most wanted, he stole 200 Million Dollars worth of gold from the Union Depository, Stole a deadly nerve toxin from a guarded Noose base and committed multiple armed robberies. Your opinions on his character and the story are irrelevant. He actually DID all those things. He worked with the FIB for most of them but it was still illegal. You don't have to be a criminal to be a thief. That's why he's on the list. Now, I just can't wait till GTA VI comes out and all of you start praising every single aspect in GTA V because it WILL happen. For some reason, people seem to bitch about every single thing about a new GTA game and praise the game that came before it. So I don't expect this to be any different.

Agree with you but i don't agree with people will praise the game eventually..................due to the players who hated gta v are the most active ones in the forums attacking anyone who likes it everyday since the release so there is a little chance...............Unless of course (gta vi or what the name will be sucked hard as mass effect 3 ending sucked then people will start praising the game i guarantee that to you.

 

 

 

Despite a lot of people claim that gta v isn't a crime game and feel like a child game and you actually working with the FIB to help the world to be a better place.

 

Comes out of nowhere channel watchmojo (it's a channel that puts top 10's from movies and videogames Based on "their" critic reviews mainly....... then on the viewer's opinion).....and they chose from the all the criminals in the gta series from all the games that involves robing and stealing and gang and drug activity and they decided to choose Michael de santa Wonder why?

 

 

 

 

 

He is in number 4 from the best videogame thieves.

 

Note:the list is based on"critic reviews" first viewer's opinion second.........so it's not a wrong list maybe the position can be a little higher or lower but that's it.

 

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I was expecting Michael to be a Neil McCauley/Tony Soprano combination, but he was the FIB's lapdog for most of the time. He is a great character and he's definitely my favorite character in GTA V. His mannerisms, his badassery made him a very cool character. But he was too much of a pussy to the FIB. I liked his dialogue and personality as well. Don't get me wrong, he's No. 3 in my favorite GTA protagonist minus EFLC, 2D games, and the Stories games. Ned Luke did a tremendous job, and I appreciate him for bringing Michael back to life, but GTA V's story is heavily flawed in character development and pacing. I hope that Michael would be less of a softy in the SP DLC, go back to his old Michael Townley days.

 

I'm sorry but my best gta was sa and he was bitched by frank tenpenny almost the entire game and he is the one responsible of the fantasy journey cj had the number of the missions that will serve the story's goal is about 35 or 36 missions that's it and everything you had done will not matter i'm sorry but it is and that's my best gta and i didn't complain about being used(Forced or volunteer)............. i still don't understand why cj couldn't kill him you know this used to happen back in 1992 in L.A anyone can kill anyone and get away with it........But in V they were bigger a lot bigger

 

Sorry? Are we talking V or SA? Your post had nothing to do with your original post or your my response to your post. SA is a great game, but can we not talk about that? I'm not being sarcastic BTW.

 

i'm just saying your character was bitched even more in SA......how did you not get that?

 

CJ did b*tched a lot in SA, but he had character, like Michael does. Did you not read my post well? I said that I liked Michael, but he was too much of a softy during the game, especially during the FIB missions.

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Michael's easily the best character in GTA V. He is indeed a great thief so I can't say I'm surprised to see his mention.

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You guys should have seen what people used to say about IV so what they say about V now means nothing for how it will be seen in the future.

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I thought the topic was about Michael ranking #4 on a "top ten video game thieves list"? Sure, Niko is a fan favorite (whom I prefer over him) - yeah, he's getting blackmailed by the feds in a similar fashion CJ was by C.R.A.S.H.

 

But it doesn't change the fact that he's a video game character that steals sh*t real good, I'm surprised they even managed to get the list to go up to ten.

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Michael's easily the best character in GTA V. He is indeed a great thief so I can't say I'm surprised to see his mention.

Like Michael said to Franklin he's a great thief, but he's not a good family man. I like how that he believes that he's the good guy, but in reality, he isn't. I like how he does not understand his demons, in which, gave more depth to his character, made him feel more human. Props to Ned Luke for giving us an amazing performance, and I hope that he appears in more movies and tv shows, because I really want to see him act in a movie. He'll be perfect for a Scorsese movie in my opinion. The closest he got to Scorsese is his appearance in Boardwalk Empire, which is an excellent show.

 

@woggleman: I agree on the first part that IV received heavy backlash back then in 08, but what's the past is the past, and more people get to acknowledge IV, since most of the criticism is just plain stupid and mostly is subjective to the person, but V had many mistakes in it's design and it tried to hard to please all audiences and that decreases the amount of replay-ability. VC, SA, and IV had great replay-ability and still up to this day it amazes me, and V does the same kinda, but it's not as good as what people deemed it to be. So please stop with all your nonsense and BS, and just accept our opinion of us fans of older GTA games.

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Michael's easily the best character in GTA V. He is indeed a great thief so I can't say I'm surprised to see his mention.

I'm not gonna argue that Michael is a good character. He's the most fleshed out of the 3. Personally, I like Trevor better. I don't, however, see how Michael's any better at thieving than any of the others. What makes this so?

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You guys should have seen what people used to say about IV so what they say about V now means nothing for how it will be seen in the future.

 

Well build a time machine then. Please be sure to send me a post card reminding me of how universally loved GTA V is in the hypothetical future.

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You guys should have seen what people used to say about IV so what they say about V now means nothing for how it will be seen in the future.

 

Well build a time machine then. Please be sure to send me a post card reminding me of how universally loved GTA V is in the hypothetical future.

Tell woggleman to let me in inside his TARDIS. I hope it's bigger on the inside. :-) Edited by The_Ghost
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I hope it's bigger on the inside. :-)

 

He is quite a filthy slut

 

 

ps. Love you woggleman :D

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I hope it's bigger on the inside. :-)

 

He is quite a filthy slut

 

 

ps. Love you woggleman :D

Have you watched Doctor Who? That's were the joke came from. I guess woggles is filthy like Trevor.
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Michael's the best robber there ever was. That's why he got on the list

But how i mean gta v's story doesn't involves with any crime it's a shallow corny ass hollywood stupid movie inspired by sh*t with boring characters and weak enemies ...........and all other gta is all about the seriousness and the Drama.....................wait for a guy who will say that comment.

 

Every mission you do in the game involves crime. Are you an idiot?

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Have you watched Doctor Who? That's were the joke came from. I guess woggles is filthy like Trevor.

 

Yep I have. I prefer David Tennant over the others.

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Michael's the best robber there ever was. That's why he got on the list

But how i mean gta v's story doesn't involves with any crime it's a shallow corny ass hollywood stupid movie inspired by sh*t with boring characters and weak enemies ...........and all other gta is all about the seriousness and the Drama.....................wait for a guy who will say that comment.

 

Every mission you do in the game involves crime. Are you an idiot?

 

Every mission... you sure about that?

 

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Michael's the best robber there ever was. That's why he got on the list

But how i mean gta v's story doesn't involves with any crime it's a shallow corny ass hollywood stupid movie inspired by sh*t with boring characters and weak enemies ...........and all other gta is all about the seriousness and the Drama.....................wait for a guy who will say that comment.

 

Every mission you do in the game involves crime. Are you an idiot?

 

Every mission... you sure about that?

 

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Oh that's definitely a crime....to the gamers.

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I think with more playthroughs and understanding one can appreciate this game and its characters for what they are, a cliche. Because in Los Santos everyone either talks about what they're gonna do or who they're gonna be. Focusing on Michael, the story does just enough to pull of his dimension of family man/retired bank robber. Y'all are focusing on his character but strictly as a thief, he is good. I mean that's what the whole game is about. I don't see why y'all are trying to compare Niko either. Two totally different characters. Michael makes a living out of stealing, while Niko does it for the right person/ price.

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Michael's the best robber there ever was. That's why he got on the list

But how i mean gta v's story doesn't involves with any crime it's a shallow corny ass hollywood stupid movie inspired by sh*t with boring characters and weak enemies ...........and all other gta is all about the seriousness and the Drama.....................wait for a guy who will say that comment.

 

Every mission you do in the game involves crime. Are you an idiot?

 

Every mission... you sure about that?

 

 

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Yea I am sure about that, because what you do before that part of the mission involves crime.

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With all due respect to Michael DeSaaahnta he didn`t steal a jetpack from area 69!

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Every mission... you sure about that?

 

 

 

 

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The Mens Rea of assault against a yogi instructor is a crime.

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Son of Zeus

So what's the point here? We know Santa is a robber. We also know he's a selfish prick. It doesn't change the fact that the story is weak.

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wwwttttffff is dis sh*t, wathmoyo scks 4 not aknowloging niko who is faaaaar betar criminal than michel, michael suuuucks, gta v suuucks, niko is far bettar criminaaaal!!!

 

//Okay, that's enough.

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Algonquin Assassin

So what's the point here? We know Santa is a robber. We also know he's a selfish prick. It doesn't change the fact that the story is weak.

What? Santa is a robber? Now I know why I didn't get all those toys I wanted for Christmas as a youngin.:(

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So what's the point here? We know Santa is a robber. We also know he's a selfish prick. It doesn't change the fact that the story is weak.

Hahaha, wow.

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Michael is a pathetic bitch. Even he admitted to not knowing what he was doing in the second to last heist. Fat wannabe movie star sh*thead

This pretty much sums up Michael. Well played.

Signatures are dumb anyway.

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Michael's the best robber there ever was. That's why he got on the list

But how i mean gta v's story doesn't involves with any crime it's a shallow corny ass hollywood stupid movie inspired by sh*t with boring characters and weak enemies ...........and all other gta is all about the seriousness and the Drama.....................wait for a guy who will say that comment.

 

Every mission you do in the game involves crime. Are you an idiot?

 

Every mission... you sure about that?

 

 

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Even some of GTA IV's missions does not involve crime.

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Hi guys what the hell?i was just stating he is the best thieve in gta history then you turn the subject again to say niko is better or the story's weak.............You know what maybe the story's weak to you people............but for me it's not that weak is still criticized the story of being short and lack of development of franklin in the middle of the game........See i'm not a fanboy i still prefer iv and vc more but the thing is if does suck so badly you will see almost all people say it's suck........but you don't see all people say it suck.............example like mass effect 3 is ending ............All the fan base said it's sucks and that's a strong honest fan base But here you don't see all people say this....................and woggleman stop comparing v to iv when it was released because iv yes it was boring almost the first 10 missions were really boring and the gameplay was impressive at first then become frustrating but over all the story was well written and very good............and people who hated iv didn't complain about it since the release everyday of the year so it's not like V at all..............................and yeah RDR fans their is a rumer(65% it's coming from a trusted source) so you all should start complaining about the game because it will include 3 protagonists and it will be short due there's not much to do in the west so i don't think there will much of character development even like gta v..................and one more thing people i remember people criticized cj's personality due it's not a personality he was bitched by everyone in the game even a women that's a way i prefer other characters's personalities even gta v characters.


 

 

 

 

Michael's the best robber there ever was. That's why he got on the list

But how i mean gta v's story doesn't involves with any crime it's a shallow corny ass hollywood stupid movie inspired by sh*t with boring characters and weak enemies ...........and all other gta is all about the seriousness and the Drama.....................wait for a guy who will say that comment.

 

Every mission you do in the game involves crime. Are you an idiot?

 

Every mission... you sure about that?

 

 

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Even some of GTA IV's missions does not involve crime.

 

Why people are so frustrating about this mission they can just played for one time and that's it............and if they hated so much how about not playing the game at all.

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He was on the FIB most wanted, he stole 200 Million Dollars worth of gold from the Union Depository, Stole a deadly nerve toxin from a guarded Noose base and committed multiple armed robberies. Your opinions on his character and the story are irrelevant. He actually DID all those things. He worked with the FIB for most of them but it was still illegal. You don't have to be a criminal to be a thief. That's why he's on the list. Now, I just can't wait till GTA VI comes out and all of you start praising every single aspect in GTA V because it WILL happen. For some reason, people seem to bitch about every single thing about a new GTA game and praise the game that came before it. So I don't expect this to be any different.

Agree with you but i don't agree with people will praise the game eventually..................due to the players who hated gta v are the most active ones in the forums attacking anyone who likes it everyday since the release so there is a little chance...............Unless of course (gta vi or what the name will be sucked hard as mass effect 3 ending sucked then people will start praising the game i guarantee that to you.

 

Honestly, I do praise V, don't get me wrong, it's just you V fans easliy don't get my criticism about it's story and gameplay. I mean, it's a really good game, those people who are saying V sucks are just trolls or people wanting attention. There are many mistakes, but you guys need to get that most of us fans of GTA really like V, it's just the game is heavily flawed. You guys need to accept constructive criticism, because these are my opinion and despite the many times you persuade, my opinion won't change.

 

What about the gameplay?And i don't think the game's heavily flawed.........yeah the game was short and had a lack of development but i don't think it's heavily flawed like people said that to V.................example Mafia 2 was short and had nothing to do but i didn't see anyone say it's heavily flawed.........it's one of the best stories in videogame history (alright maybe mafia 1 had a slightly better story).............and the only thing that was keeping iv alive was the mods(go a head boys and deny it) .............i'm sorry but not because it had a better story i should the lack of everything else in the game. it was the mods mainly and dlc's second who saved iv.

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He was on the FIB most wanted, he stole 200 Million Dollars worth of gold from the Union Depository, Stole a deadly nerve toxin from a guarded Noose base and committed multiple armed robberies. Your opinions on his character and the story are irrelevant. He actually DID all those things. He worked with the FIB for most of them but it was still illegal. You don't have to be a criminal to be a thief. That's why he's on the list. Now, I just can't wait till GTA VI comes out and all of you start praising every single aspect in GTA V because it WILL happen. For some reason, people seem to bitch about every single thing about a new GTA game and praise the game that came before it. So I don't expect this to be any different.

Agree with you but i don't agree with people will praise the game eventually..................due to the players who hated gta v are the most active ones in the forums attacking anyone who likes it everyday since the release so there is a little chance...............Unless of course (gta vi or what the name will be sucked hard as mass effect 3 ending sucked then people will start praising the game i guarantee that to you.

 

Honestly, I do praise V, don't get me wrong, it's just you V fans easliy don't get my criticism about it's story and gameplay. I mean, it's a really good game, those people who are saying V sucks are just trolls or people wanting attention. There are many mistakes, but you guys need to get that most of us fans of GTA really like V, it's just the game is heavily flawed. You guys need to accept constructive criticism, because these are my opinion and despite the many times you persuade, my opinion won't change.

 

What about the gameplay?And i don't think the game's heavily flawed.........yeah the game was short and had a lack of development but i don't think it's heavily flawed.................example Mafia 2 was short and had nothing to do but i didn't see anyone say it's heavily flawed.........it's one of the best stories in videogame history (alright maybe mafia 1 had a slightly better story)

 

I don't know, but it's just my opinion, but Mafia 2 had great gameplay despite it's imperfections. The driving is the best I have ever seen from an open world game, especially on Simulation, definitely beats IV's driving. I mean it's not GT or Forza like driving, but it's so realistic and fun to drive in Mafia 2. The wanted system is great as well, when you jump a red light or speeding over the limit, you'll get a ticket and you have to pay for it. It was cool and unique and it made Empire Bay a more lively and atmospheric city. The only thing that I really don't like about Mafia 2, is that it's not a completely open world game like GTA, or Sleeping Dogs. After you finish it, it's over. The city is very lively and fun cruise at, but sometimes it felt like a background of a third person/mafia game and that disappointed me. I love Mafia 2, and it has one of the best stories in Video Games. But it is flawed, but unlike V, the gameplay is top notch good and V however is a hit-and-miss mostly, but it's a good and quite enjoyable game, and I respect it for that.

 

EDIT: IV wasn't a disaster, critics loved it, we all loved it, it was just stupid people who don't realize that this isn't San Andreas 2. It got a 98% on Metacritic, and it was universally loved by many gamers. The hate for IV back in 2008, it just unnecessary, and plain stupid.

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Yeah that's my opinion too about mafia 2 despite it has a good A.i but quickly becomes too predictable .............but i still think gta v's gameplay is the best gameplay i have seen in an open world game............and mafia 2 IMO one of the most underrated games of all time like mirror's edge.

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He was on the FIB most wanted, he stole 200 Million Dollars worth of gold from the Union Depository, Stole a deadly nerve toxin from a guarded Noose base and committed multiple armed robberies. Your opinions on his character and the story are irrelevant. He actually DID all those things. He worked with the FIB for most of them but it was still illegal. You don't have to be a criminal to be a thief. That's why he's on the list. Now, I just can't wait till GTA VI comes out and all of you start praising every single aspect in GTA V because it WILL happen. For some reason, people seem to bitch about every single thing about a new GTA game and praise the game that came before it. So I don't expect this to be any different.

Agree with you but i don't agree with people will praise the game eventually..................due to the players who hated gta v are the most active ones in the forums attacking anyone who likes it everyday since the release so there is a little chance...............Unless of course (gta vi or what the name will be sucked hard as mass effect 3 ending sucked then people will start praising the game i guarantee that to you.

 

Honestly, I do praise V, don't get me wrong, it's just you V fans easliy don't get my criticism about it's story and gameplay. I mean, it's a really good game, those people who are saying V sucks are just trolls or people wanting attention. There are many mistakes, but you guys need to get that most of us fans of GTA really like V, it's just the game is heavily flawed. You guys need to accept constructive criticism, because these are my opinion and despite the many times you persuade, my opinion won't change.

 

What about the gameplay?And i don't think the game's heavily flawed.........yeah the game was short and had a lack of development but i don't think it's heavily flawed.................example Mafia 2 was short and had nothing to do but i didn't see anyone say it's heavily flawed.........it's one of the best stories in videogame history (alright maybe mafia 1 had a slightly better story)

 

I don't know, but it's just my opinion, but Mafia 2 had great gameplay despite it's imperfections. The driving is the best I have ever seen from an open world game, especially on Simulation, definitely beats IV's driving. I mean it's not GT or Forza like driving, but it's so realistic and fun to drive in Mafia 2. The wanted system is great as well, when you jump a red light or speeding over the limit, you'll get a ticket and you have to pay for it. It was cool and unique and it made Empire Bay a more lively and atmospheric city. The only thing that I really don't like about Mafia 2, is that it's not a completely open world game like GTA, or Sleeping Dogs. After you finish it, it's over. The city is very lively and fun cruise at, but sometimes it felt like a background of a third person/mafia game and that disappointed me. I love Mafia 2, and it has one of the best stories in Video Games. But it is flawed, but unlike V, the gameplay is top notch good and V however is a hit-and-miss mostly, but it's a good and quite enjoyable game, and I respect it for that.

 

EDIT: IV wasn't a disaster, critics loved it, we all loved it, it was just stupid people who don't realize that this isn't San Andreas 2. It got a 98% on Metacritic, and it was universally loved by many gamers. The hate for IV back in 2008, it just unnecessary, and plain stupid.

 

They are not stupid people but i know some of them were expecting gta sa 2-but here is the thing about iv.

1-poor missions structure

2-the missions are freaking reptrieve

3-the gameplay impressive at first time then quickly becomes frustrating and really slow.

4-some of the side activities were poorly designed except the assassination ones i enjoyed them

5-poor fighting.

6-lots and lots of really extremely made scripting events not like gta v at least in V we had challenges and san andreas.

7-no checkpoint system for 2008 game.

8-really poor A.I for the enemies except the cops they were ok A.i but there were no challenge in them like san andreas.

9-Characters design were poorly made( i mean people who walks in the street) you can't tell how they look i spent lot of time in gta 4 and i don't remember any of them how they look and i know every single man and women in sa.

10-the city feel alive only slightly over san andreas people don't talk to each other they only say one sentence at a time and feels like a ghost town sometimes i mean i have never been in newyork but i know it's overcrowded city with lots of noise.

11-and since i played it on pc...... the game still have the worst port to this date unlike V and max payne 3. (V can run on intel hd)

12-i only found like 8 or 9 standout songs in gta iv unlike san andreas still have the best soundtruck in a gta game till this date (maybe vc too)

13-No stand out missions like sa and vc and v ........the only standout mission was Three leaf glover and the ending(that's why they made v) and even this mission was almost like the movie heat instead of just inspiration(maybe i'm wrong about his one just maybe).

14- some things don't feel real at all like planes don't go flying from the airport or goes to land...... and people don't move from their places.

15-some not all.......some vehicles handles like sh*t i'm sorry it's true despite i like driving in iv............and almost all bikes handles like sh*t except Freeway.

16-people don't talk to you and you can't talk to them like in Sa and v. even if it was just one sentence replay it's good enough.

17-some places have bad graphics and textures for a 2008 game......i don't know how.

18-it's the first Gta that made people say (GTA IS OVERRATED GTA SUCKS) Not v like you think it is...............even some critics eventually say it's overrated like IGN And gamespot

19-some not all.......... heilcopters handles very hard i don't know why.

20-only few cloths we can buy for niko ..................i finished the game only wearing the blue and brown jacket and the expensive suit.

21-eventually the only real fun you will have will be playing cops and robbers i guarantee that to you man......not like SA.

22-you can't replay a certain mission i know there is only few standout missions but what if i wanted to do something like understanding part of the plot.

23- races aren't so good in the game due to some sport vehicles handles not so good..................but there some races that were really good in the game.

24-No customisation in the game at all.

25-still the girlfriends system there and she have to call you for every 10 mintues in the game really annoying. at least amanda in V don't call you at all.

26-only 30% of players have finished iv that's why rockstar didn't add lots of missions in v ( so it's our fault from the very beginning) ........most of us didn't finish gta iv for the first time............Go a head and deny this one.........it's ok to not accept this particular point.

27- lot of people said this the best gta and this the best game every made when it's not even close to the best gta and of course not the best game ever made

(Trust me on this one i have searched for countless of lists for the best vidoegames of all time (not including the metacritc list) from 10 to 100 games of all time and i have never see even an honoreble mention for gta 4 not a single mention in a single list.........i only found GTA SA AND VC AND V and guess what those are my best gta too so i'm not new in gta fan base at all......i have been playing gta since Vc......back when i was 10 or 11 in 2006 or 2007 not sure what is the date)

 

 

Here is 27 reasons why people don't like gta iv very much it sounds very sensible to me.............Look i don't hate iv .........for me it's still have the best story in a gta game and it's still a 8.8/10 or 9/10 for me so i certainly don't hate......... in fact i'm currently replaying the game from the beginning...........and most iv fans are going anyway to deny this.....i'm an iv fan but not going to deny this.

 

 

and since you trust the reviews and the metacritic on gta iv Then why couldn't you Or i trust them in Gta v even the negative user reviews in the metacritc are more then V despite V being a newer gta make sense right?................so you think they are paid reviews for gta v and gta iv is not or any other rockstar game aren't paid..............this doesn't make any sense to me i'm sorry it is......................And as always sorry for bAAD ENGLISH.

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