The ONE thing V has over IV story-wise

[Official General]

 

 

I can find tons of articles praising V and bashing IV. If you look hard enough you find pretty much anything online.

 

Ok, I challenge you to produce one now, just the one. Right now, lets see what you got mister.

 

Overused yeah i know, but it expresses the message best - put your money where your mouth is.

 

Positive V article-https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CG8QFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ftechnology%2Fvideo-games%2F10312515%2FGTA-5-review.html&ei=YwwwVYeCDbPIsQTm2oDgBA&usg=AFQjCNEV_pBiCgjaHpyEaiV-yQ75460TlQ&sig2=RNZ49qlqaWU0y7PBb7ggAw

 

Negative IV article https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatculture.com%2Fgaming%2F5-reasons-gta-iv-was-the-worst-in-the-series.php&ei=mgwwVeeyMafPsQTh9oHoDA&usg=AFQjCNHi5V75hCzlkcamQy5eE3tGKooGcQ&sig2=_vKnwTahFWxiUMX2BXkx3A

 

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This guy sends me a review that's obviously gonna praise V lol.

 

The second one couldn't even give reasons why he didn't like IV.

 

The third just seems like a blog anyone can do.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Official General

[The Dedito Gae]

^^ why you posted the same video twice? ^^

[Official General]

It's very much like III in that respect.

 

As simple as III's story was, it was still a lot more interesting and entertaining than V's ever was. III's story was still more of a serious, crime thriller and drama. V, like I said was some cheap, B-class, corny Hollywood bullsh*t.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Official General

[Pump Action Pimp]

 

It's very much like III in that respect.

 

As simple as III's story was, it was still a lot more interesting and entertaining than V's ever was. III's story was still more of a serious, crime thriller and drama. V, like I said was some cheap, B-class, corny Hollywood bullsh*t.

 

III and V's stories, much like IV/V's, are apples and oranges. V did a good job at what it wanted to do.

[TheOneLibertonian]

 

 

 

 

 

I can find tons of articles praising V and bashing IV. If you look hard enough you find pretty much anything online.

 

Ok, I challenge you to produce one now, just the one. Right now, lets see what you got mister.

 

Overused yeah i know, but it expresses the message best - put your money where your mouth is.

 

Positive V article-https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CG8QFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ftechnology%2Fvideo-games%2F10312515%2FGTA-5-review.html&ei=YwwwVYeCDbPIsQTm2oDgBA&usg=AFQjCNEV_pBiCgjaHpyEaiV-yQ75460TlQ&sig2=RNZ49qlqaWU0y7PBb7ggAw

 

Negative IV article https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatculture.com%2Fgaming%2F5-reasons-gta-iv-was-the-worst-in-the-series.php&ei=mgwwVeeyMafPsQTh9oHoDA&usg=AFQjCNHi5V75hCzlkcamQy5eE3tGKooGcQ&sig2=_vKnwTahFWxiUMX2BXkx3A

 

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You want an answer. Here you go.

 

 

 

GTA V does not suck. It's a good game but, it's just disappointing.

Edited April 16, 2015 by The_Ghost

[MrDeSanta]

V`s story has alot of gaps and flaws but it`s not that bad. It`s stil miles ahead of III`s, VCS`, SA`s LCS` and TBOGT`s story.

Actually i`d say that only IV`s story beats V`s out of GTA franchise. As for IV vs V story i already wrote above, IV`s beats V`s in more aspects. And VC`s, Altough quite satisfying for the player but It had somewhat too many similarities to Scarface thus being somehow unoriginal, i`d say only IV beats V story-wise.

So let`s not overreact and say that III`s story was better than V`s because this is a pure joke.

 

GTA story-wise;

1.) IV

2.) V

3.) TLAD

4.) VC

5.) SA

6.)LCS

7.)III

8.)TBOGT

[Pump Action Pimp]

I'm sorry if I'm missing something, I've seen Scarface, the movie and the game aren't very similar at all. They play out very differently. I never understood the VC-Scarface comparisons, there's some nods to it, I feel as if it takes more from Miami Vice.

[Fuzzknuckles]

 

The second one couldn't even give reasons why he didn't live IV.

 

Yes it could, it gives 5 very clearly headed reasons, 3 of which I agree with, 2 of which are utter nonsense.

 

IV is not a sh*t game, of course, but it is ultimately quite a depressing and often boring game. Even more so in TLAD. TBOGT saved the day, but was absolute fluff in the story department. IV's narrative was often ball-achingly dull, and bear in mind, it's my third favourite R* game behind RDR and V (which puts it roughly fifth in the top ten games I never thought I had until now), both of which I think provide more entertaining stories - not better - but more entertaining. Gritty is great, I love gritty, but the constant drudgery of Bellic's life really ground me down more and more with each play through. I got to a point where I couldn't play anything but TBOGT simply because it felt overall like a more positive game.

 

Just think of the game IV could have been with the three protag mechanic in place. It could have been a proper emotional rollercoaster. But it was just bleak, bleak, glitter.

 

RDR and V both deliver a much less one-note story than IV. They offer levity around the characters, much more so than, say, Roman's (potential) death (if anyone still considers that a spoiler, you can get out), or hanging out with junkies and loser career crims. The closest you get to any real levity is the moment when the moronic Playboy X shows up. IV sucker punches you with the backhanded boobie prize Dwayne at the same time, just to really bum you right the f*ck out. The whole of the Mcdreary family are a non-stop hellride into depression. The first woman you fall for is a lying hag (and I guess you technically end up working for a govt. agency when you're with her...). It's just far too many down notes, one after the other.

 

V may be shlocky stuff, I will never deny that, but I think that's a reflection or maybe even comment on the trashy sh*t that's polluting the cinema right now - people want dumb fun. How else can we explain the lack of assassination attempts on Adam Sandler? V isn't just dumb fun. It's an incredibly playable game, from a mechanical point of view; It's not perfect but it delivers a huge deal of gaming fun. The story is too short and shallow for my liking, though it does keep me entertained throughout - I didn't at any point feel it lagging. IV however does dip, several times. to the extent that I often abandoned the missions and just walked about instead, dreading some of the duller missions that were coming up.

 

I think I've probably rambled enough for now.

 

tl;dr

 

I like all the GTA games, I think IV is often dull and depressing. I think RDR and V are both funny and lighthearted as well as frequently brutal, but provide much more comic relief, which is often welcome.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Fuzzknuckles

[MrDeSanta]

I'm sorry if I'm missing something, I've seen Scarface, the movie and the game aren't very similar at all. They play out very differently. I never understood the VC-Scarface comparisons, there's some nods to it, I feel as if it takes more from Miami Vice.

Well like i said, VC`s story was very satisfying to the player, it felt like a real breeze after III but it actually had few many similarities. Apart from the mansion and ending. Now that`s nothing bad because the game was amazing, apart from SA it was the king of 3D era but we can`t exactly say it`s story was 100% original.

Edited April 16, 2015 by MrDeSanta

[Pump Action Pimp]

 

I'm sorry if I'm missing something, I've seen Scarface, the movie and the game aren't very similar at all. They play out very differently. I never understood the VC-Scarface comparisons, there's some nods to it, I feel as if it takes more from Miami Vice.

Well like i said, VC`s story was very satisfying to the player, it felt like a real breeze after III but it actually had few many similarities. Apart from the mansion and ending. Now that`s nothing bad because the game was amazing, apart from SA it was the king of 3D era but we can`t exactly say it`s story was original.

 

True, it's not original, but it isn't a rip off of anything direct, it takes different aspects of 80's Miami movies, rolls them up in a ball, and sprinkles a bit of Ray Liotta on top. It's original enough for it not to be dragged down by it's inspirations.

[Official General]

V`s story has alot of gaps and flaws but it`s not that bad. It`s stil miles ahead of III`s, VCS`, SA`s LCS` and TBOGT`s story.

Actually i`d say that only IV`s story beats V`s out of GTA franchise. As for IV vs V story i already wrote above, IV`s beats V`s in more aspects. And VC`s, Altough quite satisfying for the player but It had somewhat too many similarities to Scarface thus being somehow unoriginal, i`d say only IV beats V story-wise.

So let`s not overreact and say that III`s story was better than V`s because this is a pure joke.

 

GTA story-wise;

1.) IV

2.) V

3.) TLAD

4.) VC

5.) SA

6.)LCS

7.)III

8.)TBOGT

 

I'm not joking. I was really immersed in III's story, that's what got me into the GTA series in the first place. The Mafia v Triad war was exhilarating. The part where Salvatore Leone tricks Claude into a setup promising him Mafia membership was pure gold. Then the way the Mafia and Yakuza were beefing had me on edge. I was so hooked into playing the game from the story alone, that's what kept me playing III, and even did another playthrough immediately after the first. I did not get that feeling with V, so to me I found V's story a better experience.

 

Vice City was nothing like Scarface, I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Despite the fact that there were clear influences in VC from Scarface regarding many of the themes and content in the game, overall it felt nowhere near anything similar to the movie. VC was a mix of Miami Vice and Scarface influences, but only in theme, atmosphere etc, not in an overall way - VC pretty much had it's own unique identity using those influences. Scarface was focused exclusively on the cocaine trade with a Cuban protagonist, while VC is focuses on organized crime in general, and the protagonist is an Italian-American mafioso. Two completely different scenarios my friend.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Official General

[Fuzzknuckles]

 

 

I'm sorry if I'm missing something, I've seen Scarface, the movie and the game aren't very similar at all. They play out very differently. I never understood the VC-Scarface comparisons, there's some nods to it, I feel as if it takes more from Miami Vice.

Well like i said, VC`s story was very satisfying to the player, it felt like a real breeze after III but it actually had few many similarities. Apart from the mansion and ending. Now that`s nothing bad because the game was amazing, apart from SA it was the king of 3D era but we can`t exactly say it`s story was original.

 

True, it's not original, but it isn't a rip off of anything direct, it takes different aspects of 80's Miami movies, rolls them up in a ball, and sprinkles a bit of Ray Liotta on top. It's original enough for it not to be dragged down by it's inspirations.

 

Tony's rise to power is definitely on a much more elaborate route than Tony Montana's, but the theme is the same ultimately.

[Pump Action Pimp]

 

I like all the GTA games, I think IV is often dull and depressing. I think RDR and V are both funny and lighthearted as well as frequently brutal, but provide much more comic relief, which is often welcome.

I agree with this. GTA 4 wasn't slow to me, I prefer the term...."methodical", it didn't rush into anything really, it was a game that had some real excitement when you got past the somewhat mundane beginning stuff. The good thing about IV's boring stuff was that it at least had solid dialogue. Vlad gave some terrible missions but boy could that man call me a yokel.

 

 

 

I'm sorry if I'm missing something, I've seen Scarface, the movie and the game aren't very similar at all. They play out very differently. I never understood the VC-Scarface comparisons, there's some nods to it, I feel as if it takes more from Miami Vice.

Well like i said, VC`s story was very satisfying to the player, it felt like a real breeze after III but it actually had few many similarities. Apart from the mansion and ending. Now that`s nothing bad because the game was amazing, apart from SA it was the king of 3D era but we can`t exactly say it`s story was original.

 

True, it's not original, but it isn't a rip off of anything direct, it takes different aspects of 80's Miami movies, rolls them up in a ball, and sprinkles a bit of Ray Liotta on top. It's original enough for it not to be dragged down by it's inspirations.

 

Tony's rise to power is definitely on a much more elaborate route than Tony Montana's, but the theme is the same ultimately.

 

It's close to being a knock off, I wouldn't say they are the same ultimately. Tommy finds himself off the beaten path and into some strange things. The Haitians, the movie studio.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Pump Action Pimp

[Fuzzknuckles]

It's close to being a knock off, I wouldn't say they are the same ultimately. Tommy finds himself off the beaten path and into some strange things. The Haitians, the movie studio.

 

Like I said, Tony's route is much more elaborate. But they both start out as low level thugs and become king of the world by time the end credits roll over a Miami sunset.

 

Never mind the whole death thing.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Fuzzknuckles

[Pump Action Pimp]

 

It's close to being a knock off, I wouldn't say they are the same ultimately. Tommy finds himself off the beaten path and into some strange things. The Haitians, the movie studio.

 

Like I said, Tony's route is much more elaborate. But they both start out as low level thugs and become king of the world by time the end credits roll over a Miami sunset.

 

And if that's all that's similar minus the mansion, is that really a bad thing? Oh, and the death thing was something I should have brought up to correct you, missed an in your face opportunity.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Pump Action Pimp

[MrDeSanta]

My comment was aimed only to the story-wise aspect of VC. And even that only in some aspects. And since the topic is about story-wise and we compare GTA storylines i`ve mentioned it. And i know it`s far from being a ripoff or something.

And i didn`t mean that in a bad way neither. VC was apart from SA my best 3D era GTA. It had the best 80s theme, the best soundtrack out of any GTA so far, (including HD ERA) the voice actor and many other things. I`m very into 80s theme and music, so VC is my kinda thing.

OT, like i said many times before, no GTA storyline so far doesn`t come even close to RDR`s story which was a masterpiece. But amongst them IV`s certainly takes the cake. Of course not in all aspects but most of them.

But other than IV i don`t see any other GTA that would have any special storyline. Compare to III, LCS, VCS, TBOGT and SA i`d say V beats all of them. With TLAD being very close.

 

That was what i tried to say. But it`s just my own opinion.

[Fuzzknuckles]

Not at all, I suppose. All of the GTA stories echo a clutch of films, I have no problem with that. I was just trying to clarify what I thought you said you were missing.

[TheOneLibertonian]

 

V`s story has alot of gaps and flaws but it`s not that bad. It`s stil miles ahead of III`s, VCS`, SA`s LCS` and TBOGT`s story.

Actually i`d say that only IV`s story beats V`s out of GTA franchise. As for IV vs V story i already wrote above, IV`s beats V`s in more aspects. And VC`s, Altough quite satisfying for the player but It had somewhat too many similarities to Scarface thus being somehow unoriginal, i`d say only IV beats V story-wise.

So let`s not overreact and say that III`s story was better than V`s because this is a pure joke.

 

GTA story-wise;

1.) IV

2.) V

3.) TLAD

4.) VC

5.) SA

6.)LCS

7.)III

8.)TBOGT

 

I'm not joking. I was really immersed in III's story, that's what got me into the GTA series in the first place. The Mafia v Triad war was exhilarating. The part where Salvatore Leone tricks Claude into a setup promising him Mafia membership was pure gold. Then the way the Mafia and Yakuza were beefing had me on edge. I was so hooked into playing the game from the story alone, that's what kept me playing III, and even did another playthrough immediately after the first. I did not get that feeling with V, so to me I found V's story a better experience.

 

Vice City was nothing like Scarface, I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Despite the fact that there were clear influences in VC from Scarface regarding many of the themes and content in the game, overall it felt nowhere near anything similar to the movie. VC was a mix of Miami Vice and Scarface influences, but only in theme, atmosphere etc, not in an overall way - VC pretty much had it's own unique identity using those influences. Scarface was focused exclusively on the cocaine trade with a Cuban protagonist, while VC is focuses on organized crime in general, and the protagonist is an Italian-American mafioso. Two completely different scenarios my friend.

 

VC had it's own identity and it does a great job paying homage to both Miami Vice and Scarface. Two of my favorite things that came up during the 80's. It's Rockstar's specialty, trying to pay homage to the pop culture of the respective era's during the game's setting. Think people like Hideo Kojima and Dan Houser. They always do a good job trying to represent all those references, because they love movies and they want us the gamers, to be in that movie type experience in a video game. It brings more life to it. But despite of the barrage of pop culture references, GTA does hold it's own right as a video game and offers a unique experience that catapult and hook us to enjoy and have fun while playing these games.

[Official General]

But other than IV i don`t see any other GTA that would have any special storyline. Compare to III, LCS, VCS, TBOGT and SA i`d say V beats all of them. With TLAD being very close.

 

That was what i tried to say. But it`s just my own opinion.

 

The III-era stories and IV+EFLC's story all had me very much interested and entertained and they were very memorable, I was so engrossed in them all, with VC and IV the most. V did not give me that same overall feeling, so i can only go by that, just being honest man. It's your own opinion and that's fine, but I just don't agree with it all. I still maintain that V has worst story in the main series from III onward.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Official General

[Pump Action Pimp]

 

But other than IV i don`t see any other GTA that would have any special storyline. Compare to III, LCS, VCS, TBOGT and SA i`d say V beats all of them. With TLAD being very close.

 

That was what i tried to say. But it`s just my own opinion.

 

That's your own opinion, and that's fine. I just don't agree with it all. I still maintain that V has worst story in the series from III onward.

 

It's simply not true. I love Liberty City Stories, but I'd rather deal with Trevor/M whining at each other over being Sal's lapdog.

[Official General]

 

 

But other than IV i don`t see any other GTA that would have any special storyline. Compare to III, LCS, VCS, TBOGT and SA i`d say V beats all of them. With TLAD being very close.

 

That was what i tried to say. But it`s just my own opinion.

 

That's your own opinion, and that's fine. I just don't agree with it all. I still maintain that V has worst story in the series from III onward.

 

It's simply not true. I love Liberty City Stories, but I'd rather deal with Trevor/M whining at each other over being Sal's lapdog.

 

 

Sorry Pump, let me rephrase that - in the entire main series from III-onward, I don't normally count the III-era spin-offs, I only focus on the main titles when discussing GTA. Even then, reading the plot for the III-era Stories games, they seem interesting enough for what they were, but I have no real judgement on them, as I've not really played them.

[Pump Action Pimp]

Ohhh my bad man fair enough. I loved III's story myself so I don't have any real issue with you preferring it. III is better than Vice City...but that's for another thread.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Pump Action Pimp

[Official General]

Ohhh my bad man fair enough. I loved III's story myself so I don't have any real issue with you preferring it. III is better than Vice City...but that's for another thread.

 

All good, but that's a sin in my eyes to tell me that any GTA is better than Vice City !!

[Pump Action Pimp]

 

Ohhh my bad man fair enough. I loved III's story myself so I don't have any real issue with you preferring it. III is better than Vice City...but that's for another thread.

 

All good, but that's a sin in my eyes to tell me that any GTA is better than Vice City !!

 

III was a challenge at times. It's the only GTA I have to plan for before I play it. Vice City didn't challenge me much. Busting the driver dude out of prison was a pain in the ass though. Nothing will ever frustrate me more than doing the ambulance missions in III.

 

So.

Many.

Flipped.

Ambulances.

Edited April 16, 2015 by Pump Action Pimp

[MrDeSanta]

 

But other than IV i don`t see any other GTA that would have any special storyline. Compare to III, LCS, VCS, TBOGT and SA i`d say V beats all of them. With TLAD being very close.

 

That was what i tried to say. But it`s just my own opinion.

 

The III-era stories and IV+EFLC's story all had me very much interested and entertained and they were very memorable, I was so engrossed in them all, with VC and IV the most. V did not give me that same overall feeling, so i can only go by that, just being honest man. It's your own opinion and that's fine, but I just don't agree with it all. I still maintain that V has worst story in the series from III onward.

 

The same can be said for this, it`s just your own opinion

 

I`m very loud when it comes to pointing out V`s flaws but i still don`t overreact by it`s flaws. V`s story has alot of flaws but saying it`s the worst out of any GTA so far is a little too much.

It is still far more interesting than III`s, VCS`s, LCS`s or TBOGT`s story. The conflicts and history between T and M makes it tense and interesting at certain parts. Michael`s f*cked up family, his short temper and sarcasm also adds to the fun.

The whole North Yankton is still interesting and adds some value to the game even if it goes to the wrong diresction at the certain point.

The missions are pretty varied and fun we must admit that. Apart from few incredibly stupid and boring missions amongst them.

 

Now i numbered the pros of V`s story. Of course there are many cons such as plot holes, antagonists that comes out of nowhere and goes, too much childish humor, too short storyline section, too many unexplained details etc..

 

But saying it`s the worst GTA story is a huge exaggeration, no offence.

 

Just look at the stupidity of SA`s story which was btw the best 3D era GTA but it`s story was a joke. Just look at the poorly written stories of VCS and III. LCS is a little better story-wise but still very poor. Not to mention TBOGT which is probably one of the worst game stories ever.

 

Compare to that, V`s story is better.

Edited April 16, 2015 by MrDeSanta

[nunyobidness]

 

IV is not a sh*t game, of course, but it is ultimately quite a depressing and often boring game. Even more so in TLAD. TBOGT saved the day, but was absolute fluff in the story department. IV's narrative was often ball-achingly dull, and bear in mind, it's my third favourite R* game behind RDR and V (which puts it roughly fifth in the top ten games I never thought I had until now), both of which I think provide more entertaining stories - not better - but more entertaining. Gritty is great, I love gritty, but the constant drudgery of Bellic's life really ground me down more and more with each play through. I got to a point where I couldn't play anything but TBOGT simply because it felt overall like a more positive game.

 

Just think of the game IV could have been with the three protag mechanic in place. It could have been a proper emotional rollercoaster. But it was just bleak, bleak, glitter.

 

RDR and V both deliver a much less one-note story than IV. They offer levity around the characters, much more so than, say, Roman's (potential) death (if anyone still considers that a spoiler, you can get out), or hanging out with junkies and loser career crims. The closest you get to any real levity is the moment when the moronic Playboy X shows up. IV sucker punches you with the backhanded boobie prize Dwayne at the same time, just to really bum you right the f*ck out. The whole of the Mcdreary family are a non-stop hellride into depression. The first woman you fall for is a lying hag (and I guess you technically end up working for a govt. agency when you're with her...). It's just far too many down notes, one after the other.

 

V may be shlocky stuff, I will never deny that, but I think that's a reflection or maybe even comment on the trashy sh*t that's polluting the cinema right now - people want dumb fun. How else can we explain the lack of assassination attempts on Adam Sandler? V isn't just dumb fun. It's an incredibly playable game, from a mechanical point of view; It's not perfect but it delivers a huge deal of gaming fun. The story is too short and shallow for my liking, though it does keep me entertained throughout - I didn't at any point feel it lagging. IV however does dip, several times. to the extent that I often abandoned the missions and just walked about instead, dreading some of the duller missions that were coming up.

 

I think I've probably rambled enough for now.

 

tl;dr

 

I like all the GTA games, I think IV is often dull and depressing. I think RDR and V are both funny and lighthearted as well as frequently brutal, but provide much more comic relief, which is often welcome.

 

 

I thought I was the only one who felt that way about IV's story. I like the game but I had trouble replaying it because of exactly what you said, it was Depressing as hell. I understand that buys critic points with some people, but I thought it was unecessarily bleek. There were times on my first playthough of GTA IV where I seriously thought the last mission would have Nico Kill himself. To go through a game that long and have such a rather depressing ending is a tough pill to swallow.

 

V isn't perfect, Trevor is way over the top, Franklin is under developed and Jimmy is one of the most annoying secondary GTA characters ever. V's still my preference though, because it's easier to digest

[Red Goose]

Now I know I'm going to cop criticism for this because the moment you mention anything comparing IV and V storywise people first assumption is: IV>V.

 

Now I've been playing both through from the start again, concurrently too, and noticed that overall the dialogue and acting is top-notch in V. Yeah IV does have it's good points, but compared to V you can somewhat tell that Rockstar put more effort into how the characters interact and finding the perfect person to fit the job.

 

For example, Steve Haines is a pretty sh*t at feeling like a true antagonistic figure, yet you compare him to say, Jimmy Pegerino, the way his actor behaved in those scenes and the wording/dialogue/what he says feels a hell of a lot more convincing and fluid.

 

Tried to make this short an simple, when I could go on forever comparing characters and situations and who wins. Yet overall V seems a lot more like a decent movie. It's trying to find a way to intergrate the type of plot they wanted with the type of gameplay they wanted where Rockstar really fell short with the story. I've probably opened up a can of worms here, but feel free to discuss whether I'm right or wrong.

 

I thought you were going to say "the ONE thing V has over IV storywise is the story."

 

 

Not to say I didn't enjoy IV's story, but V's story was just better in my opinion. Mainly because I think the character interaction is done better and the situation is more interesting. I found Niko's character somewhat plain and IV still didn't completely get out of the habit of "here's an irrelevant crime to do for an irrelevant gangster." Most of the missions in V felt consistent and the existence of non-crime missions made the world feel more real.

[Official General]

The same can be said for this, it`s just your own opinion

 

This really should have concluded this part of our discussion, but then you elected to say this.....

 

 

I`m very loud when it comes to pointing out V`s flaws but i still don`t overreact by it`s flaws. V`s story has a lot of flaws but saying it`s the worst out of any GTA so far is a little too much.

 

Too much ? Seriously bro ? I've just told that I think V's story is the worst in the entire main series from III onward, is that too much for you to handle or something ? You have just acknowledged that I'm entitled to my own opinion, yet in this same post of yours indicates you still won't accept that it is my opinion

[Pump Action Pimp]

That whole irrelevant gangster thing is what made IV's story feel so real. Niko was just a cog in the machine. V's got you doing some spy sh*t haha. It's certainly a different pace.

[Red Goose]

How about Ray/Phil's conversation relying on hand gestures and very vague sentences? "The guy with the uh....wee-wooo"...."the guy with the hat"...etc.

 

I always thought they were just making fun of Italian stereotypes. Was there more to that conversation then I gathered?