Fuzzknuckles Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 @ Fuzz I've analyzed the story of V many times, I'm not going over that again, well it's not necessary for me to do so just to hear you cry at my 'negativity' again. I don't have a problem with others enjoying V's story or any other aspect of it, but if someone makes a thread or post that I feel the need to respond to, then I will, whether its negative or positive. Could you just try and do it without being so bluntly rude, aggressive and dismissive of what others think, please? And of course you're enjoying the attention, trolls always do. That's why you come here every day, instead of sticking in the forums of one of the games you actually enjoy. Smith John and Big Gta fan 2 Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) storyline-wise where V beats IV are in my opinion V>IV; cutscenes (don`t need to explain further) dialogues (again, crystal clear that the dialogues are better in V) mission variety (V beats IV in this aspect any day) pacing (IV was too slowly paced) storyline-wise where IV beats V in my opinion IV>V; plot quality (less gaps and unexplained illogical details) antagonists (no need for any further explanation) side characters (way more memorable than in V) endings (IV`s two endings aren`t exactly jaw dropping like it was in RDR for example but still miles ahead from V`s) But keep in mind it`s just IMO This is pretty much word for word exactly how I feel. The only thing that's a little unfair is the 'more memorable side characters in IV' thing. I say this because personally I remember Brucie, Jacob etc more because I spent more years playing IV during the period before V's release than I have V. Firstly, I'd like to give thanks to the guys calling out my name, I'm really enjoying this great fame and attention I'm receiving on here. I'm very much on the way to legendary status on GTA Forums, and I could not thank you enough, I'm so honoured !!It's stuff like this which is precisely why you come off as a troll at this point. In fact, why am I even saying "at this point"... You've been like this for months... It really is a waste of time debating (and when I say debating, I of course mean completely demolishing) anything you say, as we either get completely ignored, or met with the usual Troll Of The Year acceptance speech as displayed above. Edited April 16, 2015 by John Smith bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) @ Fuzz I've analyzed the story of V many times, I'm not going over that again, well it's not necessary for me to do so just to hear you cry at my 'negativity' again. I don't have a problem with others enjoying V's story or any other aspect of it, but if someone makes a thread or post that I feel the need to respond to, then I will, whether its negative or positive. Could you just try and do it without being so bluntly rude, aggressive and dismissive of what others think, please? And of course you're enjoying the attention, trolls always do. That's why you come here every day, instead of sticking in the forums of one of the games you actually enjoy. I will respond however I want without breaking the rules, which I'm pretty sure that these days I don't. I don't outright insult or offend people, apart from attack/ridicule opinions, be a bit sarcastic, or smart-mouthed, which is allowed. When I last checked, I lived in a free country, I don't know about you. So far, I've done nothing wrong, so if you don't like the way I post, the answer to your plea is no. I'll continue to post in the way I have done if I feel the need to. You don't like it, that's your tough luck, challenge, ignore, or get lost. Firstly, I'd like to give thanks to the guys calling out my name, I'm really enjoying this great fame and attention I'm receiving on here. I'm very much on the way to legendary status on GTA Forums, and I could not thank you enough, I'm so honoured !! It's stuff like this which is precisely why you come off as a troll at this point. In fact, why am I even saying at this point... You've been like this for months... It really amazes me to know what influence I have on other forum users such as you. The impact my posts has on your life really is stunningly profound. My presence on this site, ensures your interest in this site stays high. Without me, your interest and participation wanes. Is that supreme power and influence or what !? If it is not, then I don't know what is !! Now back on topic.... Edited April 16, 2015 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 SMFH... bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gta-v-just-stupid-game-pc-not-1496809 Just came across this article from a games journalist drawn from N4G. Even the professional critics share my view on V's story. In this instance, I NEVER wrote it, so don't shoot the messenger !! Some quotes that I definitely agree with : " Even Franklin, GTA's supposed conduit into the nitty-gritty of South Central, winds up – about a sixth of the way through the game – living in a mansion in the Hills, narrowing GTA V's focus to one tiny, uninteresting facet of metropolitan life. " " The game's so-called satire, which let's not forget was explicitly (and ham-fistedly) advertised in its trailers, boils down to knocking things like Facebook, celebrity culture and Call of Duty.Grand Theft Auto V nevertheless chooses as its political targets the kinds of things people whinge about in Comments sections. It's a lazily researched game, something which would just about be passable if it weren't so smug about what it seems to regard as its unique, cut-throat political standpoint. " " I'd also say that, despite being supposedly based on spectacle, whackiness and a ca-razy San Andreas style of play, the health bar and shooting mechanics in GTA V are restrictive. There's a tonal clash between "this is a reality-minded game from the makers of Red Dead Redemption" and "because we're corporate sycophants, we're going to give people exactly what they asked for after GTA IV." And so you have the promise of go anywhere, do anything gameplay, but also the leash of systems that force you to behave sensibly. " " And stupidest of all? Stupidest of all is the fact that this game ostensibly has a bone to pick with wealth and wealthy people. The main antagonist is a billionaire who brags about his power. There's even a mission where you assassinate Mark Zuckerberg. And yet, if you pre-ordered the PC version, you were gifted $1 million of in-game currency. And here's Rockstar boasting, a few days after GTA V's launch, how much money the game had made. So, that's pretty stupid. " Edited April 16, 2015 by Official General The Green Sabre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Article title: 'GTA 5 is just a stupid game, PC or not' Yeah, I'm not even going to waste my time with this 'professional'... bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dedito Gae Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "came across" " searched for it to prove my point (i don't like the game, so i need to wash your party" same thing. Smith John and Gtaman_92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 At least the vocabulary applied in the header is something OG is accustomed to. bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "came across" " searched for it to prove my point (i don't like the game, so i need to wash your party" same thing. You know, you didn't have to read it bro. Just sayin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dedito Gae Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 that article probably doesn't mention how V cutscenes are structured like a movie instead of real conversations, which is what we are trying to discuss here. but, you know,there's always a good excuse to shoehorn some good 'ol whining!! Nah nah nah Gta 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowi Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The Green Sabre, HaythamKenway, CarlitoDorito and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 What the f*ck happened to the moderation of this forum. Vendetta ™ and Gtaman_92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otselot Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 This thread is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I can't say I really trust the International Business Times (wtf?) to review, critique or fairly represent video games. Guys, we need our own subforum. R* Defence League Vs The Sour. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Gets my vote. bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Just waded through that article. Can anyone explain to me why people actual pay this guy to write words? I can't believe he ever wrote for Edge, let alone The Observer. I can quite believe he's written for Vice, though. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I can't say I really trust the International Business Times (wtf?) to review, critique or fairly represent video games. Guys, we need our own subforum. R* Defence League Vs The Sour. It's like your local news channel covering sports. It just doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "And in this month's British Dairying, we take a look at the new releases on the XBox One!" Official General and Vendetta ™ 2 Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "And in this month's British Dairying, we take a look at the new releases on the XBox One!" Lool that's some funny sh*t I give you that Fuzzknuckles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I can find tons of articles praising V and bashing IV. If you look hard enough you find pretty much anything online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneLibertonian Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) But in my opinion, GTA IV had the most free structure in terms of missions. V being the most restrictive. I agree on the later part but not on the former unless you meant in comparison to V, then yes, quite a bit.GTA IV had a lot of freedom Ehhhhhh, what? Seriously, I can link you several articles that point out how much IV lacked freedom in story missions, able to experience new ways for the most part, and even expand upon the players imagination as freely as I usually get the feeling from the 3D games. Fine. Its your opinion. Yeah, that's fine it's just my opinion and I also do get a lot of freedom from the 3D era, and I did like it a lot especially Vice City. Now that game is the best homage to all the 80's pop culture and I still play it to this day both on PC and Android. Speaking of GTA IV, if you play it for like many times, I don't know how long did you play IV, but IV's mission structure and open world really gives us a lot of freedom IMO. This is a good example how GTA IV's mission structure is really free and not restrictive. Edited April 16, 2015 by The_Ghost The Dedito Gae, RoachKiller_416 and Official General 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I can find tons of articles praising V and bashing IV. If you look hard enough you find pretty much anything online. Ok, I challenge you to produce one now, just the one. Right now, lets see what you got mister. Overused yeah i know, but it expresses the message best - put your money where your mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pump Action Pimp Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) The games are telling different stories from different perspectives. V was atypical as far as Grand Theft Auto stories go, it was cliche ridden, but it also put the viewer in a less predictable spot. It's clear that before the game even starts, Michael and Trevor have seen/done a lot in the past. Niko's past is told in bits and pieces, very convincingly I must say, so much so that it made up for Niko's lack of clear definitive history. V doesn't give you a lot, it's not focused on who's playing it, it's focused on this brief moment in time which is the events of the SP. Am I making any sense? Edited April 16, 2015 by Pump Action Pimp Fuzzknuckles and thafablifee46 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It's very much like III in that respect. Pump Action Pimp 1 Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I can find tons of articles praising V and bashing IV. If you look hard enough you find pretty much anything online. Ok, I challenge you to produce one now, just the one. Right now, lets see what you got mister. Overused yeah i know, but it expresses the message best - put your money where your mouth is. Positive V article-https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CG8QFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ftechnology%2Fvideo-games%2F10312515%2FGTA-5-review.html&ei=YwwwVYeCDbPIsQTm2oDgBA&usg=AFQjCNEV_pBiCgjaHpyEaiV-yQ75460TlQ&sig2=RNZ49qlqaWU0y7PBb7ggAw Negative IV article https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatculture.com%2Fgaming%2F5-reasons-gta-iv-was-the-worst-in-the-series.php&ei=mgwwVeeyMafPsQTh9oHoDA&usg=AFQjCNHi5V75hCzlkcamQy5eE3tGKooGcQ&sig2=_vKnwTahFWxiUMX2BXkx3A You want another one? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CFMQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giantbomb.com%2Fprofile%2Fmoeez%2Fblog%2Fwhy-grand-theft-auto-4-is-a-miserable-experience%2F32388%2F&ei=mgwwVeeyMafPsQTh9oHoDA&usg=AFQjCNFc0nEzgExOTWwRrDncdJHLMcjf9g&sig2=o5elT43-ISuC7V8bYfPHxw Edited April 16, 2015 by woggleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Sorry dude, but if it isn't written by a dairy worker, I'm just not interested. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneLibertonian Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Iv missions felt free to me . Its like there is never a certain way to do them.For example, the mission Manny escuela is killed. The mission tells you to sell his parts to a doctor but I learned that also you could just dump the car in the water. that's just a small example but I can go on. Thats what added replay ability to me. V is where mission gameplay feels to scripted. Same bs all the time The thing with GTA IV is for example when you're told to assasinate someone that's all you're told. In most cases you're not guided specifically "how" to do it. I'm actually surprised after 7 years I'm still learning things I've overlooked. Some of the guys go into great detail in the GTA IV forum regarding alternative ways. Take a look. A good example is Final Interview and Photo Shoot. Those missions give you a lot of freedom. Edited April 16, 2015 by The_Ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pump Action Pimp Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It's very much like III in that respect. You don't need it to be a biopic for a good story to be told. Great point Fuzzknuckles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Crystal Maze gives you a lot of freedom in V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I can find tons of articles praising V and bashing IV. If you look hard enough you find pretty much anything online. put your money where your mouth is. That's how you get diseases. The Dedito Gae 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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