U.S. Presidential Election 2016

[Creed Bratton]

So you've got a choice between the wife of an alleged rapist, or an alleged paedophile and rapist. Nice going America.

MAKE AMERICA RAPE AGAIN...

 

 

 

...their own citizens, that is.

[Craigsters]

The Debate Transcript Translated to Plain English

 

 

 

This is gold. Done by Tim Urban

In case you missed it, I took the time to transcribe the entire second presidential debate. Here’s what happened:

long line of text see spoiler tag

 

Martha Raddatz: Hi I’m Martha.

Anderson Cooper: And I’m Anderson. And we’ll be your moderators tonight.

Martha: We’d like to remind all audience members that they’re props more than anything and should stay silent through the debate. The format of the debate will be a series of questions from members of the audience. We’ll start with a woman named Patrice Brock.

Audience Question: Thank you and good evening. The last presidential debate could have been rated as MA—mature audiences—per TV parental guidelines. Knowing that educators assign viewing the presidential debates as students’ homework, do you feel that you are modeling appropriate and positive behavior for today’s youth?

Clinton: I want to do all kinds of things. I want to do good things. There’s nothing we can’t do together, you and me Patrice. I want to work with people of all ethnicity. I want to heal the country. Make it a better place. For you and for me and the entire human race. And our children. And grandchildren.

Trump: This country’s going to sh*t. Healthcare costs are going up. We made Iran great again. We get killed on trade—an $800 billion deficit last year. We’re gonna make great trade deals. We’re gonna bring back law and order. Did you hear about those policemen that were shot today? We need justice. I want to fix the blacks in the cities. I want to fix the Latinos, Hispanics, etc. I want to make them great again. Make America great again.

Anderson Cooper: Neither of you remotely answered the question, whatsoever. You literally both ignored Patrice. Anyway, I also don’t care about Patrice. Let’s talk about the tapes. Donald, you talked about kissing women without consent. Grabbing them by the pussy. That’s really very much definitely sexual assault. You bragged about sexually assaulting women. This is a real thing that happened. It is a thing that’s real.

Trump: Wrong. I don’t think you understand what sexual assault is. Grabbing women by the pussy is locker room talk. Assaulting women is grabbing them by the pussy. I’m sorry I grabbed women by the pussy. I never did that. And how can you say that’s worse than ISIS? ISIS is beheading thousands of people. How can you compare me to ISIS? They drown people in steel cages. I’ve never done that once. How dare you Anderson. We’ll see tomorrow what the American people have to say about you saying that ISIS isn’t a big deal. What do you think our enemies are saying when they see what’s going on here. Yes, it was locker room talk. Yes, I hate it. I have advanced strategies for ISIS. I will defeat ISIS.

Anderson: Okay, but do you assault women?

Trump: Nobody has more respect for women than I do. Nobody. Not Mister Rogers. Not Susan B. Anthony. No one. Moving on a married woman is a sign of respect, something Mister Rogers and Susan B. Anthony never did. I’m what every parent hopes their daughter marries. All women respect me.

Anderson: But like literally—do you assault women?

Trump: Only with my respect. We’re gonna build a wall. We’re gonna have borders. People are pouring into our country from the Middle East to grab American women by the pussy. We’re gonna make America safe again. We’re gonna make America great again. We’re gonna make America safe again. We’re gonna make America wealthy again. China.

Anderson: Secretary Clinton, would you like to respond?

Clinton: Reagan. Bush. Eisenhower. Did they grab women by the arm? Yes. By the hand? Probably. Around the shoulder? Sure. But by the pussy? I don’t think so. Donald Trump is a bad man. He’s an everything-ist. He’s Matt Damon in School Ties. He’s the uncle in The Long Walk Home. He’s the mean slave owner in 12 Years a Slave. He’s the main German guy in Die Hard. He’s the woman in The Grudge. He’s Bluto. He’s Jafar. He’s the Joker. He’s a white walker. He’s a death eater. He’s a zombie. He’s a ghost. I, on the other hand, want to form one of those huge circles of different colored people that stretches all the way around the Earth where everyone’s holding hands. Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?

Trump: 30 years. 30 years this lady’s running the country and never once have I, nor has anyone else, been part of a circle of different colored people that stretches all the way around the Earth where everyone’s holding hands. 30 years of this f*cking lady and never once did she paint anything with paint, let alone the colors of the wind.

Martha: Okay but back to your locker room assault. You’ve said that this campaign has changed you—that though being a clear predator in that video at the age of 59, you’ve now become good. Is that really true?

Trump: Martha—I don’t know how much clearer I can make this. I told detailed assault stories that included specific dates, names, and body parts. That’s just classic locker room talk. Every guy talks to other guys about detailed stories of his previous assaults that include specific dates, names, and body parts. You don’t know this because you’re not there—but whenever guys are alone, they talk about their previous assaults. That doesn’t mean they assaulted anyone, obviously. Unless they’re Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is a bad f*cking dude. Bill Clinton told me about when he held a Taco Bell employee down by the neck in the restaurant’s utilities closet and had intercourse with her. Bill Clinton told me about having a foursome with Chelsea’s three best friends while Chelsea was sleeping upstairs. Hillary missed it because she was busy laughing at a 12-year-old rape victim who by coincidence is sitting right over there.

Martha: Nicely done. Hillary?

Clinton: I’ll let Michelle Obama do the talking here. She said, “When someone talks about that time when your husband held a Taco Bell employee down by the neck in the restaurant’s utilities closet and had intercourse with her, you go high.” It works for Michelle, and it works for me. Also, you insulted a Muslim war hero’s parents and said a Latino judge was inherently biased and mocked a disabled reporter and said Obama was foreign.

Trump: The first three, sure. But you’re the one who said Obama was foreign. Also, Michelle Obama has openly said you’re the worst ever. Also, you cheated to beat Bernie Sanders. Also, you deleted 33,000 emails you sneaky f*ck. And when I’m Führer, I’m hiring a special prosecutor to come after you.

Clinton: He’s lying about everything, it’s all on my website, and let’s just be happy that this loose cannon isn’t in charge of the law in this country.

Trump: Because you’d be in jail.

Audience: Oh dayome!

Anderson: We’d like to remind the audience to stop being a piece of sh*t.

Martha: But really, Hillary—what’s up with the emails you sneaky f*ck.

Clinton: It was a mistake. I wrote 33,000 emails about Chelsea’s wedding and a yoga class, and I shouldn’t have deleted them. Now let’s get to the questions from the audience.

Trump: Of course—anything to divert from this question, you crooked shrew.

Clinton: Anything to divert from your campaign, you incompressible jizztrumpet.

Anderson: That’s enough. Now let’s resume this town hall farce with our second audience question.

Trump: Typical.

Anderson: Huh?

Trump: You never ask Hillary about her emails. You never spend time with me. You don’t care about me. This is one on three.

Anderson: No it’s not. Just a little. Next question.

Audience Question: Obamacare made things more expensive, not less. How will you bring healthcare costs down?

Trump: Well—

Anderson: No Hillary’s supposed to go first here.

Clinton: No it’s fine I’d rather go second.

Trump: No it’s fine you go first.

Clinton: No you.

Trump: No you.

Clinton: No you.

Trump: No you.

Clinton: No you.

Trump: No you.

Clinton: Obamacare is good.

Trump: Obamacare is a disaster.

Anderson: Hillary, your husband Bill also said Obamacare is a disaster.

Clinton: No he didn’t.

Trump: Bernie Sanders says Hillary has bad judgment.

Anderson: Let’s move on. Audience question.

Audience Question: I’m a Muslim. How can you help me not be hatecrimed?

Trump: Being hatecrimed is a shame. But we have a problem. Which is that you’re not telling us when the other Muslims are gonna kill us. In San Bernardino, there were Muslims that killed us and you didn’t tell us about them. If you had told us about them, we could have stopped it. I don’t think you ever told us about Orlando either, or 9/11 for that matter. I know that because if you had told us about 9/11, I’m pretty sure you’d be famous, and famous people don’t go to town hall meetings.

Clinton: You are Muslim. I am Muslim. Captain Khan, who died serving this country and who Donald hates, was Muslim.

Martha: Hey Donald, remember your Muslim ban? Let’s discuss.

Trump: I love Captain Khan. I have his name tattooed on my lower back. An American hero. Who Hillary killed by starting the Iraq War, another thing I hate.

Martha: f*ckin—dude—no. Answer the question.

Trump: Who made you so mean? Was it your parents? And who made you so simultaneously nice to Hillary? Also your parents?

Martha: Does the Muslim ban still hold?

Trump: Hillary wants to merge the US with Syria into one nation. She wants to increase the number of refugees from 10,000 to 65,000.

Martha: What the f*ck Hillary?

Clinton: That picture of the dead four-year-old boy on the beach with the little sneakers.

Martha: Totes.

Clinton: Also, Donald literally wants to ban an entire major religion from entering the US. Can we just all reflect on that for a second? And also, he started the Iraq War, not me.

Trump: I was against the war in Iraq.

Clinton: No you weren’t.

Trump: Yes I was.

Clinton: No you weren’t.

Trump: Yes I was.

Clinton: No you weren’t.

Trump: Yes I was. Bernie Sanders says Hillary Clinton has bad judgment.

Martha: Okay new question. Hillary, you said in a secret speech that politicians need both a public and private position on certain issues. Is it okay for politicians to be two-faced?

Clinton: That was Abraham Lincoln, not me. More importantly, Trump is obsessed with Putin.

Trump: I’m not obsessed with Putin. I paid taxes. I took deductions. Hillary’s friends took deductions. Hillary is friends with rich people.

Anderson: The f*ck? Okay well now that we’re here:

Audience Question: How will you ensure that wealthy Americans pay their fair share of taxes?

Trump: Well the first thing I’d do is (by the way one of the first provisions is (by the way you know I give up a lot when I run cause I change the tax code (by the way you know she could have done this years ago but she didn’t because her rich friends don’t want her to (30 f*cking years, folks—30 years with this lady and nothing changes—nothing ever will change)))) get rid of carried interest. I’m also lowering taxes on the wealthy, and by the way Hillary is raising your taxes, which is a disaster. There’s no growth in this country. This country’s going to sh*t. China’s killing us.

Clinton: Literally all lies from this douche again. He will cut taxes for the super rich and raise them for the middle class.

Trump: Yeah she’ll close corporate loopholes—as long as they’re ones her rich friends don’t use. Also, Bernie Sanders says she has bad judgment. 30 f*cking years, folks, with this lady. 30—

Clinton: 30 years my dick, Donald. I’ve done 400 legislation things in 30 years.

Trump: Nah.

Martha: New question. Aleppo’s in the sh*t. Thoughts?

Clinton: We need to stand up to Russia and Assad and save Aleppo.

Trump: And save who in Aleppo, the rebels? They’re worse than Assad. We need to fight ISIS.

Martha: But Mr. Trump, your running mate agrees with Hillary. He even wants to use military force to stand up to Russia and Assad.

Trump: Well he’s dumb. We need to be fighting ISIS. I know more about ISIS than the generals.

Clinton: f*cking no you don’t.

Anderson: Audience question.

Audience Question: Do you believe you can be a devoted president to all the people in the US?

Trump: I want to help all Americans. The black Americans. The Latino Americanos personas. The Indian chiefs. Our cities are a disaster. Our education is a disaster. Poverty is a disaster. Natural disasters are a disaster. She said basket of deplorables.

Clinton: I want to help all Americans—the deplorables and the non-deplorables. I talked to an Ethiopian kid who was scared of Trump.

Anderson: But what’s up with the deplorables thing?

Clinton: I only meant that truthfully, not publicly.

Trump: She has tremendous hate in her heart. The hate in her heart is a disaster.

Anderson: So Donald, remember when you kind of woke up in the middle of the night the other night and went on a 3am tirade attacking that random woman and telling people to watch her sex tape? What was…what was the deal with that?

Trump: That slut.

Anderson: Let’s move on to the next question, from a man named Kenneth Bone.

Audience Question: I’m Kenneth Bone. I’m Kenneth Bone and I’m wearing this sweater. And this is my mustache.

Anderson: Is that…is that it?

Ken Bone: What’s your plan with energy policy?

Trump: Coal. Coal is the way of the future. China is KILLING us. China is dumping steel on us.

Clinton: China is dumping steel on your sh*tty face. You buy a ton of Chinese steel. Climate change is a thing. Coal is a thing. Things are things.

Martha: Okay last question, thank f*cking god.

Audience Question: It sounds kind of fun and hilarious to make you two say something nice about each other. Go.

Clinton: His kids aren’t terrible people. Somehow.

Trump: The bitch can fight.

Anderson: I’d like to extend my thanks and apologies to the 790 million people who watched this. Goodnight.

 

original source http://imgur.com/gallery/Y55XO

Edited October 11, 2016 by Craigsters

[dice]

The Kremlin is still trying to stay relevant by further accusing the DNC of sabotaging Sanders campaign. Seems these are the supposed leaks which would down Hillary like promised before, but they dont really bring anything new to the table.

 

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/785573145700892673

 

I really doubt any firm investigation will take place due to Clinton eventually winning, anything else would be an upset really.

As an european I'd somewhat preffer Trump over Clinton mainly due to their different views in foreign policy

Edited October 11, 2016 by  dice

[Argonaut]

 

Hmmmm?

[Clem Fandango]

Are we going to get an answer on this red tie thing?

Edited October 11, 2016 by Melchior

[X S]

Don't worry, they are on the case.

 

That's already been debunked, Svip.

 

It's like James O'Keefee claiming he has a video of Clinton disparaging black people on video that he is claiming he'll release next week. I'll believe that when I see it. Until then, everybody at this point has some kind of "surprise". This is all getting so silly.

 

I have to admit, I believed that Billy Bush leaked the Trump tapes, and that was a bit tin-foiled of me to suggest, but I wasn't too far off. It turns out Dan Senor, the top advisor to Paul Ryan, and former campaign strat of Romney/Ryan, leaked it to the Washington Post when his wife, a former NBC exec, gave it to him. Not that it matters who leaked it, but now Trump is focusing his hate on Ryan. It's mutiny.

[jatiger13]

I don't know whether it has to do with the posters on this forum not having any friends or something, and not understanding what that is like, but people say offensive stuff to one another to make one another laugh sometimes. It happens. It's not an admission of a crime at all. Mutually laughing about something completely inappropriate is a typical guy bonding experience.

Like I told someone before, if sexual assault is acceptable to joke about, you need new friends. Certain things are just crossing the line, predatory sexual comments are exactly that.

 

I played sports, so I've been part of locker rooms and know what type of banter goes on. Never have I heard someone joking about sexually assaulting someone, never mind getting away with it because they're an orange "star". If that happened, that guy most likely would've lost a few teeth. But maybe in the 1950's, when Trump played sports, maybe that type of sh*t was ok in locker rooms. But calling someone a negro was also accepted at that time, so why does he not do that again.

 

Let me ask you this. If Trump had said "grab them by the pussy" about 10 year olds, would that be acceptable? I already know the answer. So why isn't that accepted? It's just as illegal as grabbing an adult woman without consent. Stop being a Trump apologist.

Edited October 11, 2016 by jatiger13

[Svip]

 

Don't worry, they are on the case.

That's already been debunked, Svip.

 

Read the article again, X S. The Guardian article is from July, the Independent article is from this morning. But the Independent article is about the fact that a judge has decided that the case can move ahead. Whether or not it's debunked, it's still significant that the judge did not throw out the case immediately.

[jatiger13]

As an european I'd somewhat preffer Trump over Clinton mainly due to their different views in foreign policy

So you prefer someone who is completely clueless in terms of foreign policy? Trump, evidently, doesn't know sh*t about foreign policy. Unless you count praising Putin as foreign policy.

[sivispacem]

If the total allegations against trump total two...The comparison to what Bill has done just isn't very legitimate.

So a man whose received one allegation of rape, one allegatuon of sexual harassment and one of exposure is inarguably guilty, but two years-old outstanding allegations against another person are somehow "politically motivated" and the alleged perpetrator "might be innocent"?

 

I'd say you couldn't make this sh*t up, but you just did. That's just flabbergasting.

 

Mutually laughing about something completely inappropriate is a typical guy bonding experience.

You might want to, y'know, go and actually listen to the tape, or read the transcript, before you start coming up with horsesh*t like this. It wasn't general crass discussion, Trump was talking about actively sexually assaulting women and you'd have to be either stupid or in denial to think otherwise.

 

All I'm left really concluding from yyour normalising things like this is that your circle of friends are vile c*nts.

[dante財閥]

Is anyone else horrifically fatigued by this whole election now? I know lots of people are saying it's hilarious, some are saying it is terrifying, others find it incredibly entertaining. But has anyone else expressed just how tiring the whole thing is becoming now? It's almost like some kind of point-break level of anxiety. I'd really like to know the direction global politics is going to go in now, please. I'm growing a bit weary of the alt-right fanboy-ism for Trump and the cognitive dissonance of Clinton supporters.

 

Although I do admit watching Robert De Niro saying he wanted to punch Trump and describing him as a "mutt" was very satisfying and entertaining. I think that was peak US Presidential Election 2016. Let's get it done now!

[X S]

Read the article again, X S. The Guardian article is from July, the Independent article is from this morning. But the Independent article is about the fact that a judge has decided that the case can move ahead. Whether or not it's debunked, it's still significant that the judge did not throw out the case immediately.

 

The article says they're pushing the case for the third time. The Guardian article provides the context for that.

[dice]

 

As an european I'd somewhat preffer Trump over Clinton mainly due to their different views in foreign policy

So you prefer someone who is completely clueless in terms of foreign policy? Trump, evidently, doesn't know sh*t about foreign policy. Unless you count praising Putin as foreign policy.

 

Are you living under the assumption the president of the most powerful nation on the world does not have access to advisors or any other personnel which would bring him up to date with the issues he is facing? Why not just use an exam to determine the next president then?

 

I don't care about his factual knowledge about anything because that can be easily be learned, what I do care is his attitude towards not just Russia but also the Middle East. I don't want the EU to suffer because of continuous rising tensions between Russia and the US, I don't want the EU to get dragged along in their Middle East conflicts and I don't like the constant US involvement there. From what I've seen of the remaining two candidates Trump is the better choice here from my point of view, which is kind of ironic to say the least.

Edited October 11, 2016 by  dice

[jatiger13]

 

 

As an european I'd somewhat preffer Trump over Clinton mainly due to their different views in foreign policy

So you prefer someone who is completely clueless in terms of foreign policy? Trump, evidently, doesn't know sh*t about foreign policy. Unless you count praising Putin as foreign policy.

Are you living under the assumption the president of the most powerful nation on the world does not have access to advisors or any other personnel which would bring him up to date with the issues he is facing? Why not just use an exam to determine the next president then?

 

 

Trump has advisors already. What Pence had said about a strategy in Syria, that's exactly what Trump's advisors have been telling him. BUT TRUMP DISAGREES!!!!

Trump is a loose cannon who always thinks he knows best. He thinks he knows more than Generals about ISIS.

 

So how you think Trump would be better in terms of foreign policy is quite laughable.

 

 

I don't care about his factual knowledge about anything

Good, because he has none of that.

 

what I do care is his attitude towards not just Russia but also the Middle East.

And what exactly is that? He has no plans for how to deal with any of what's going on over there.

All he has is empty words. The guy is completely clueless.

Edited October 11, 2016 by jatiger13

[dice]

Yes, and thank god he disagrees with Pence. He wants to get rid of ISIS and get out, not sponsor another foreign government toppling and 5 more years of wars

[sivispacem]

You really think Donald "let's literally nuke IS" Trump is less likely to cause military strife for the wider world than Hillary Clinton?

[dice]

You really think Donald "let's literally nuke IS" Trump is less likely to cause military strife for the wider world than Hillary Clinton?

No, I just know that under Clinton nothing significant will change, while Trump atleast still has the benefit of the doubt and appears to be better in this particular department, judging by his speeches. I'd rather have Jill Stein or Sanders as president but that wont happen sadly

[jatiger13]

Yes, and thank god he disagrees with Pence. He wants to get rid of ISIS and get out, not sponsor another foreign government toppling and 5 more years of wars

All that sounds fancy. But again, nothing but empty words. How exactly does he plan on doing that? He has never said, because he himself doesn't even know how the hell to do that.

 

You've fallen for his orange charm, that's easy to see.

You believe a guy who has been proven to lie more than anyone else, even more than regular politicians.

Edited October 11, 2016 by jatiger13

[dice]

 

Yes, and thank god he disagrees with Pence. He wants to get rid of ISIS and get out, not sponsor another foreign government toppling and 5 more years of wars

Again, nothing but empty words. How exactly does he plan on doing that? He has never said, because he himself doesn't even know how the hell to do that.

 

You've fallen for his orange charm, that's easy to see.

You believe a guy who has been proven to lie more than anyone else, even more than regular politicians.

 

Oh please, do you think presidents make strategic war plans how to defeat enemies all by themselves?

[jatiger13]

HE DISAGREES WITH EXPERTS ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION IN SYRIA!!!!

 

He doesn't listen to the people advising him.

His own f*cking experts and advisors.

He thinks he knows more than Generals.

How many times do I have to say that?

Exactly how thick is your skull? Or perhaps you're just too stupid to understand?

Maybe if I add a "Believe me", maybe then you'll finally listen.

Edited October 11, 2016 by jatiger13

[Tchuck]

You really think Donald "let's literally nuke IS" Trump is less likely to cause military strife for the wider world than Hillary Clinton?

 

I mean Benghazi literally happened thanks to Killary, so obviously more war is coming.

 

No, I just know that under Clinton nothing significant will change, while Trump atleast still has the benefit of the doubt and appears to be better in this particular department, judging by his speeches. I'd rather have Jill Stein or Sanders as president but that wont happen sadly

 

 

Do you have a crystal ball? Cause analyzing both candidates and their track records, Trump appears to be far more likely to cause more strife at a global level than Clinton. While Hillary has experience dealing with foreign officials and knows how to work with the system, Trump would be a loose cannon at best, completely ignorant of politics in general, and with his bravado would likely cause more harm than good. To think that Trump is a better choice for world peace is to demonstrate severe ignorance regarding global politics and international relations.

[Spuds725]

Sorry-- I could not resist

 

 

[Twilight Sky]

 

A candidate's ties, links, and relationships are absolutely a relevant aspect of their suitability for the job of POTUS.

well no one is arguing that.

 

but how exactly do the women that Bill assaulted have any "relevant aspect" to the "suitability" of Hillary as president??

none of you guys who are harping on this issue have been able to actually articulate an answer to that question.

 

good luck.

 

I think he's just wound opening in an effort to rattle her so that she falls off her base. Remember, this is a man who sees women as nothing more than sexual objects, and it's no surprise he has learned the psychological tools to rattle them. Pain from past cheating, etc can still linger for some women. I didn't know about these allegations of assaults, and looking at Bill's face, it shows that he feels regret. What bugs me though is how Trump totally trashed Bill Clinton, basically saying he was our worst president(lol that was actually a President from a century ago) and constantly pointing out he was impeached(actually he resigned?, it was a classic quit or get fired scenario). No.. it simply that Bill did things that Trump did not benefit from. We also had something like an 8mil surplus under his administration. It'll be a long long time before that happens again. It's almost as if he's channeling his hatred for Hillary through talking about Bill instead.

Edited October 11, 2016 by Twilight Sky

[dice]

HE DISAGREES WITH EXPERTS ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION IN SYRIA!!!!

 

He doesn't listen to the people advising him.

His own f*cking experts and advisors.

He thinks he knows more than Generals.

How many times do I have to say that?

Exactly how thick is your skull? Or perhaps you're just too stupid to understand?

Maybe if I add a "Believe me", maybe then you'll finally listen.

Mainly because these experts and advisors want constant involvement for financial and geopolitical reasons. Which I do not. Get rid of the terrorists and get out, stop playing this human rights liberator of only the selected few countries where your intervention might benefit your own country.

 

 

Cause analyzing both candidates and their track records, Trump appears to be far more likely to cause more strife at a global level than Clinton.

Based on what? Edited October 11, 2016 by  dice

[dante財閥]

This idea that Trump is more insular and therefore a safer bet for foreign policy than Clinton is a massive reach. One that has no credibility when he's spoken about 'destroying ISIS' and shooting muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood.

 

I can see why it might be a convincing line of thought for the alt-right boyz though.

[Tchuck]

 

Cause analyzing both candidates and their track records, Trump appears to be far more likely to cause more strife at a global level than Clinton.

Based on what?

 

He is literally the one advocating keeping foreigners out of 'Merica, condemning an entire nationality as a group of rapists, praising the dictator that is Putin, saying that ISIS can be solved by nuking it, preaching discrimination against other religions via his Muslim registry plans, and on and on. Those don't really scream "peace in our time". Now imagine a loudmouth like that with actual power backing his words and thoughts.

[sivispacem]

Mainly because these experts and advisors want constant involvement for financial and geopolitical reasons.

Those "geopolitical" reasons at least have their basis in the accepted norms of strategic theory. The fact these factors drive strategic decision making does not render the decision-makers less informed or experienced than Trump. Do you really believe his foreign policy ideals are going to be less driven by self-interest, in his case economic, than anyone elses?

 

Get rid of the terrorists

How? That's boots on the ground, and all of a sudden you're invading another Middle Eastern country and creating the prospect of another fifteen year clusterf*ck. You can't rally against military interventionism in principle then immediately afterwards advocate it.

[jatiger13]

preaching discrimination against other religions via his Muslim registry plans, and on and on. Those don't really scream "peace in our time". Now imagine a loudmouth like that with actual power backing his words and thoughts.

One does not need to imagine, just learn from history why such people should never be elected.

[Chiarii]

It's basically an admission of sexual assault, though.

 

The husband of one challenger for the position of US president is an alleged rapist.

The other challenger has openly confessed to committing sexual assaults.

Old friend... actually in the tape he says very clearly "they let you do anything". This indicates a consensual act. So what is it that you guys don't understand? The term 'sexual assault' or the word 'consensual'?

[sivispacem]

Old friend... actually in the tape he says very clearly "they let you do anything". This indicates a consensual act. So what is it that you guys don't understand? The term 'sexual assault' or the word 'consensual'?

Consent is explicit and active; implied consent was removed from the judicial system of Western countries decades ago. Not preventing someone from doing something is not consent. Thinking women will let you do anything to them is very different from women actually doing so.

 

Methinks you need to become more versed on the legal concept of consent.