You're all puppets...

[WavyWeazel]

 

 

What new things did we actually end up getting with GTA V besides Movie theater and golf/tennis oh and yoga!

Multiple protagonists? How could you have missed that..?

Extensive weapon and vehicle customization..

A large map to explore..

and other numerous good things that you ignore..

 

but I guess movie theater, golf, tennis and yoga are the one that appeals most to you.

Previous gta games had car customization and a large map to explore.

 

 

Name a GTA before V that let you freely customize your cars without having to mod.

Edited March 29, 2015 by Weazur

[Acetaminophen]

Majority of the "Heists" weren't F*cking heists!

 

Custom weapons are pointless in the game besides the extended ammo. I mean FFS silencers dont work. Random events? You mean the heavily scripted one time in a certain location "random" events ya okay.

 

Hunting okay ill give you that even though I think it could have been done a little better its a very welcome addition.

 

Investing.. really. Who invests in this game besides your first or second play through to get stupidly rich?

[Turan]

Majority of the "Heists" weren't F*cking heists!

 

Custom weapons are pointless in the game besides the extended ammo. I mean FFS silencers dont work. Random events? You mean the heavily scripted one time in a certain location "random" events ya okay.

 

Hunting okay ill give you that even though I think it could have been done a little better its a very welcome addition.

 

Investing.. really. Who invests in this game besides your first or second play through to get stupidly rich?

 

 

Why aren't they heists? Please do tell.

 

Custom weapons are pointless? I don't know about you man but I couldn't do those stealth missions without silencers. Oh, and that mission with Franklin where you had to get in dark buildings? Yeah, guess what? Flashlight extension. They are also of use outside of missions. Silencers work in the wild. Flashlights can also be used in dark places or at night.

 

Random events. No sh*t, of course it is scripted. But the fact that they are there is 'new' no?

 

Investing is also new. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean jack sh*t.

 

 

 

What new things did we actually end up getting with GTA V besides Movie theater and golf/tennis oh and yoga!

Multiple protagonists? How could you have missed that..?

Extensive weapon and vehicle customization..

A large map to explore..

and other numerous good things that you ignore..

 

but I guess movie theater, golf, tennis and yoga are the one that appeals most to you.

Previous gta games had car customization and a large map to explore.

 

 

Name a GTA before V that let you freely customize your cars without having to mod.

 

 

 

San Andreas had it. But of course it was nowhere near on the level of GTAV. But the V haters will keep on denying.

[Acetaminophen]

I have to say i'm not actually a V hater I just know it isnt what we should have gotten. I know R* can do much better then what we did end up getting thats what you people dont understand. Us "V haters" LOVE GTA and know it can be soooo much more then what we got.

Edited March 29, 2015 by Acetaminophen

[cdgl]

people will only remember the good things of the past and the bad things of the present

 

thats not a secret lol

 

ayy lmao @ zuckmeslow making that long ass post

inb4 official general GTA IV interiors copypasta

the only GTA with customization before was San Andreas the others didnt have sh*t lol

is there a guide to how stop being a puppet ?

back when GTA IV came out you saw comments of the good ole' days with San Andreas and guess wat ? when GTA VI comes out ull hear about the good ole' days with GTA V

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

Multiplayer is an essential component to a successful game now, like it or not. I'd have loved a story as good as IV's or as fun as Vice City's, but Rockstar needed to focus on a better Online component. Personally I'm glad they did, I've had more fun with V's online then IV's online, not saying I don't want a good singleplayer as well though.

Edited March 29, 2015 by TheGoodSgtScooter

[Geralt of Rivia]

*Double Post*

You...monster...

 

How could you!? How could you have double posted!? Don't you know what you've done!?

[Acetaminophen]

 

*Double Post*

You...monster...

 

How could you!? How could you have double posted!? Don't you know what you've done!?

 

Edited it to save myself. But I have been caught!! send me to the brig!!

[Turan]

I have to say i'm not actually a V hater I just know it isnt what we should have gotten. I know R* can do much better then what we did end up getting thats what you people dont understand. Us "V haters" LOVE GTA and know it can be soooo much more then what we got.

 

 

Honest criticism is always welcome. I have my own problems with GTAV. But criticizing things just because you have huge expectations of a game isn't healthy. It is a fact that GTAV has added and improved on a sh*t ton of stuff. Sure, there are some things missing but it doesn't justify the constant bashing it receives from some people on this forum.

[chilleverest]

Im sorry OP but i dont remember the gta fans, that evolved from the top down era ever wishing for a multiplayer that rivaled the SP....let me guess, you pull the data right up your ass, or maybe from some few forums created by online lovers like you.....f*ck you son because there are many of us that just want gta to be gta...change is good but changing by forgetting your roots to please always online DRM controlled asses like you ? hell no !!

 

Edit : chose the OP's own tone.

Edited March 29, 2015 by chilleverest

[Mister Love]

[Official General]

Tangled in strings. You want the games to evolve, and when they do you miraculously hate change....Change. For years you begged for an online component that rivaled single player. And what do you do when they listen? You complain. There's nothing wrong with Rockstar it's the fan base tht has grown into selfish, selfentitled little sh*ts that rivals the Call of Duty community in cringe worthy people.

 

You wanted planes, they gave you planes. You wanted vehicle customization, f*cking ditto. You wanted a less gritty story, f*cking hell, the GTA V story is Dr. Seuss compared to IV.

 

You complain with any tiny graphical glitch that you'd think that Rockstar came to your house and f*ck yer mum.

 

Next you'll complain that the game isn't linear enough.

 

f*ck y'all.

 

 

* I don't hate change, I hate change that involves progression and regression at the time. V is a prime example of that.

 

* I NEVER EVER wanted an online mode to rival SP in GTA, or begged for it, NEVER. SP is the only reason why I play GTA and why loved it in the first place. I've been on these forums a long time and I don't ever remember many people on here begging for that either - I've NEVER seen that on here, you must be talking about another forum. Online is a big reason why I feel so disappointed with Rockstar and V, it's my GTA nightmare come true. Why hell would I beg for more online in GTA ??

 

* I NEVER badly wanted planes, Rockstar gave a perfect explanation for why they were not in IV, the game was located in an exclusively urban city environment based on NYC there was no need. I was happy that we had helicopters, it was more than enough. This is me defending Rockstar on this one too, take note. It's the minority of idiots who were not intelligent enough to understand this.

 

* Vehicle customization ? Yeah it was nice to a great improvement, and I have ALWAYS said that's one of my most favorite things about V. I'm pretty sure most people on here are happy with it too from what I've seen.

 

* Wanting a less gritty story ? I NEVER said anything like that either. I dont care about gritty, dark, bright whatever, I just wanted a good story and V's FIB/IAA/Merryweather-dominated bullsh*t and the corny ass Hollywood stuff that came with it was definitely not that.

 

* Nope not me. Once again, I've ALWAYS praised V for it's amazing graphics and visual effects, even the LG versions.

 

So, none of your ranting actually applies to me, since you are aiming at the V critics like myself. Your're WRONG on ALL counts on my part, so in response to your last part, f*ck you too !!!!

Edited March 29, 2015 by Official General

[zuckmeslow]

I dont care is gta has a gritty story or not, it just better have a good story and gta v has a terrible story.

 

i personally feel like the single player was way too short and poorly written. it had fantastic voice acting and performances from every actor but unfortunately many characters either got shoehorned into the story with little to no development or they got written out of the story extremely fast.

 

when i saw franklins trailer, i thought simeon was going to play a bigger part of the game. no hes only in 2 missions and is never heard from again

 

 

what about tanisha, she shows up randomly and we are to assume that franklin has feelings for her but, us as the players dont feel any connection because as soon as she shows up, she gets removed from the game.

 

 

what about franklins aunt. she has no relevance to the story. we got a couple of jokes from her but there is no tension. no "oh sh*t i have to go home before the ballas kill my aunt" none of that.

 

agent sanchez, i didnt even know who this dude was until my second play through because his appearence is so generic i thought he was some random agent

Spoiler

who gets shot in the head.

but no hes actually a "character" that we are supposed to have feelings towards.

 

 

Madrazo gets plopped into the story and is built up to be the antagonist. nope hes just a minor character that disapears halfway into the game.

 

 

wei cheng. who is wei cheng? is he the guy from sleeping dogs? is he the real main villain? i dont know, but one thing i do know is the old couple that calls trevor "jock cranley" has more character development than wei cheng.

[Osho]

Sure, there are some things missing but it doesn't justify the constant bashing it receives from some people on this forum.02

Some? A lot of things are missing.

What is there that's actually worth playing in V?

- Mini games, just boring ...

- S&F and RE, zero replay value

- Collectibles, boring.

- Asset businesses, boring. VC does it better and even allows access to interiors

- Inaccessible interiors, how come LS in V don't allow access to even the common interiors seen in old LS ( GTA SA )? DLC? Then its just nonsense and a wrong practice to now reserve even features like interiors for 18 months as DLC? What an unfair treatment to the Single-players who paid for the game and can't even have the basic vanilla experience complete in all regards. Those sh*t ton if additions don't include things that really do matter.

Where's hydra? Again DLC? Great!

- Then, what else left to do, in terms of, proper side missions that are worth playing? Its here, the absence of all those past activities / infinite side missions are seriously felt here. Fine. Don't repeat the same things. At least, give us something that makes some f*ckin' sense to play over the past games.

[Krysalis]

 

if GTAV was a PC Exclusive then everyone could be happy.

 

Except for, you know, the millions of people who don't play on PC...

 

 

There are 900mill PC gamers around the globe, your argument is invalid.

 

 

What new things did we actually end up getting with GTA V besides Movie theater and golf/tennis oh and yoga!

Multiple protagonists? How could you have missed that..?

Extensive weapon and vehicle customization..

A large map to explore..

and other numerous good things that you ignore..

 

but I guess movie theater, golf, tennis and yoga are the one that appeals most to you.

Previous gta games had car customization and a large map to explore.

 

 

GTA SA was the first to have that, none else. In GTA SA you could customize only cars and some jeeps, nothing else. It was a great game from 2004-2010, but its dead now. SA-MP's players are now much smaller than before. I used to play on WoS but server died in 2011.

[zuckmeslow]

 

 

if GTAV was a PC Exclusive then everyone could be happy.

 

Except for, you know, the millions of people who don't play on PC...

 

There are 900mill PC gamers around the globe, your argument is invalid.

 

And more than half of them play world of warcraft. there is no excuse, you cant blame the consoles for gta v. if gta v did not have an ocean floor as detailed as it did then we would have gotten a much bigger map, more gameplay elements, interiors and more foliage. Blame the priorities of rock* trying to make deep sea diving simulator instead of grand theft auto.

[WavyWeazel]

 

 

if GTAV was a PC Exclusive then everyone could be happy.

 

Except for, you know, the millions of people who don't play on PC...

 

 

There are 900mill PC gamers around the globe, your argument is invalid.

 

Invalid? So the console people would be happy about not having it?

 

Of course not. That was my main point.

Edited March 29, 2015 by Weazur

[Mista J]

Like f*cking meerkats....stand at the sight of discomfort....puppets. My puppets.

Edited March 29, 2015 by .JokeR

[happygrowls]

And more than half of them play world of warcraft. there is no excuse, you cant blame the consoles for gta v. if gta v did not have an ocean floor as detailed as it did then we would have gotten a much bigger map, more gameplay elements, interiors and more foliage. Blame the priorities of rock* trying to make deep sea diving simulator instead of grand theft auto.

Deep Sea Diving? An Optional and improved feature from San Andreas is bad?

Also if there wasn't a detailed ocean floor people would still complain, GTA V is the biggest map in GTA history.

[Cyper]

You want the games to evolve, and when they do you miraculously hate change....

 

No, I don't hate change, I hate dumbing down of games.

 

 

 

For years you begged for an online component that rivaled single player.

 

You're wrong again, I did not begged for an online component that rivaled Singleplayer. I have been playing GTA since '97 and I've never cared about online.

You wanted a less gritty stor

 

No, I didn't want a less gritty story. I wanted a dark, serious story similar to GTA IV, but with more innovative missions.

 

 

Seriously, this thread should be locked. Bad language and a lot of sweeping generalization. Anyone who ends their topics with ''f*ck you'' should be banned for a week. Like children in a classroom who can't behave in a civil manner.

 

Edited March 29, 2015 by Cyper

[Nah nah nah Gta 6]

"My opinion is fact"

This thread in a nutshell

 

Everyone in this thread are either bias or don't like change.

[Krysalis]

 

 

 

if GTAV was a PC Exclusive then everyone could be happy.

 

Except for, you know, the millions of people who don't play on PC...

 

 

There are 900mill PC gamers around the globe, your argument is invalid.

 

Invalid? So the console people will be happy about not having it?

 

That was my main point.

 

 

If game was PC only, it would be much better and more diverse. I played it on PS3, it wasnt too bad, NG is way way better, many idiots who complain about the game here are those who are stuck on LG. The biggest problem i had on LG was 22 fps and thats it, but it was understandable why it was so low. Rockstar should wait for PS5 and new Xbox to release, i hope they wont f*ck it up again by choosing eighter crap CPU or crap GPU. PS4 and Xbox One was just a money grab, BF4 running at 900p and medium to high settings on PS4 wow, a PC with i3 4150, gtx 750 ti and 8gb ram plays it at 50-60 fps on native 1080p and ultra.

[Son of Zeus]

 

And more than half of them play world of warcraft. there is no excuse, you cant blame the consoles for gta v. if gta v did not have an ocean floor as detailed as it did then we would have gotten a much bigger map, more gameplay elements, interiors and more foliage. Blame the priorities of rock* trying to make deep sea diving simulator instead of grand theft auto.

Deep Sea Diving? An Optional and improved feature from San Andreas is bad?

Also if there wasn't a detailed ocean floor people would still complain, GTA V is the biggest map in GTA history.

I don't think people were begging for a detailed ocean. The point he's making is that had R* not put in so much effort on the ocean floor, we might have got more interiors and a denser forest.

[cdgl]

I dont care is gta has a gritty story or not, it just better have a good story and gta v has a terrible story.

 

i personally feel like the single player was way too short and poorly written. it had fantastic voice acting and performances from every actor but unfortunately many characters either got shoehorned into the story with little to no development or they got written out of the story extremely fast.

 

when i saw franklins trailer, i thought simeon was going to play a bigger part of the game. no hes only in 2 missions and is never heard from again

 

 

what about tanisha, she shows up randomly and we are to assume that franklin has feelings for her but, us as the players dont feel any connection because as soon as she shows up, she gets removed from the game.

 

 

what about franklins aunt. she has no relevance to the story. we got a couple of jokes from her but there is no tension. no "oh sh*t i have to go home before the ballas kill my aunt" none of that.

 

agent sanchez, i didnt even know who this dude was until my second play through because his appearence is so generic i thought he was some random agent

Spoiler

who gets shot in the head.

but no hes actually a "character" that we are supposed to have feelings towards.

 

 

Madrazo gets plopped into the story and is built up to be the antagonist. nope hes just a minor character that disapears halfway into the game.

 

 

wei cheng. who is wei cheng? is he the guy from sleeping dogs? is he the real main villain? i dont know, but one thing i do know is the old couple that calls trevor "jock cranley" has more character development than wei cheng.

 

no sh*t, you discovered the water is wet

 

but complaining about it everyday when none here works at Rockstar Games or can make changes about the story is useless

 

we got the point the first time

[Krysalis]

I have to say i'm not actually a V hater I just know it isnt what we should have gotten. I know R* can do much better then what we did end up getting thats what you people dont understand. Us "V haters" LOVE GTA and know it can be soooo much more then what we got.

 

Thats true, but programming and optimization is now hard with new engines and technology, developers need to get used to them more, but it takes a long hell of a time. With old 3D games it was easy as hell, because you could just copy paste stuff without being restricted with advanced physics and other details.

[RocknRumble]

Did OP watch the Age of Ultron trailer in the last few hours?

[Turan]

 

Sure, there are some things missing but it doesn't justify the constant bashing it receives from some people on this forum.02

Some? A lot of things are missing.

What is there that's actually worth playing in V?

- Mini games, just boring ...

- S&F and RE, zero replay value

- Collectibles, boring.

- Asset businesses, boring. VC does it better and even allows access to interiors

- Inaccessible interiors, how come LS in V don't allow access to even the common interiors seen in old LS ( GTA SA )? DLC? Then its just nonsense and a wrong practice to now reserve even features like interiors for 18 months as DLC? What an unfair treatment to the Single-players who paid for the game and can't even have the basic vanilla experience complete in all regards. Those sh*t ton if additions don't include things that really do matter.

Where's hydra? Again DLC? Great!

- Then, what else left to do, in terms of, proper side missions that are worth playing? Its here, the absence of all those past activities / infinite side missions are seriously felt here. Fine. Don't repeat the same things. At least, give us something that makes some f*ckin' sense to play over the past games.

 

 

- Mini games, just boring ...

- S&F and RE, zero replay value

- Collectibles, boring.

- Then, what else left to do, in terms of, proper side missions that are worth playing? Its here, the absence of all those past activities / infinite side missions are seriously felt here. Fine. Don't repeat the same things. At least, give us something that makes some f*ckin' sense to play over the past games.

+All of the above are opinions. Which is fine, you are entitled to it. There are plenty of things to do outside of missions. If you don't happen to like those, tough luck. Just don't say Rockstar took away and didn't give.

- Asset businesses, boring. VC does it better and even allows access to interiors

+VC doesn't do it better. It is the same. Except for the interior, which is compensated by investing/stocks AND a much bigger map than any other GTA game.

- Inaccessible interiors, how come LS in V don't allow access to even the common interiors seen in old LS ( GTA SA )? DLC? Then its just nonsense and a wrong practice to now reserve even features like interiors for 18 months as DLC? What an unfair treatment to the Single-players who paid for the game and can't even have the basic vanilla experience complete in all regards. Those sh*t ton if additions don't include things that really do matter.

Where's hydra? Again DLC? Great!

+There are accessible interiors in V. Hydra was not added, true. But guess what my friend? In exchange Rockstar has added many more vehicles. More than any other GTA game before. I wouldn't call that unfair treatment to fans of SP.

[Spaghetti Cat]

Well this has been discussed to death, so here we go once again...

 

Look I give all credit to the art and sound artists at R*. They did an amazing job of detailing the life and atmosphere of Southern California. Some people might disagree with the use of the forest, desert, or even the ocean areas. In my opinion it was a welcome change of pace from IV where everything felt cramped. Driving around in V just feels free and open. I also love just taking some time to walk the streets of LS. The NPC's and atmosphere of the city is just really really well done.

 

Where things fall apart is the story and some of the design choices. This has been well worn territory but for example the abruptness of some of the side characters, like Simeon, to be relatable. Or Madrasso, who should have been the big bad, turns into a little wimp. Now that may just be R* humor, but they never really replaced him with anybody who could be considered a threat.

 

Large gaps in the story didn't make any sense. *spoilers ahead* Some may disagree, but killing Johnny K so early made no sense. At least make him a threat throughout the game, forget the business with the Chinese (I can't even remember the name, Chang, Wang, something...) I honestly forgot who Stretch was, he made that big of an impact. The IAA/FIB missions were out of a different game entirely. One of the heists didn't even pay out. I'd rather have another Jewelry Store-type heist. All in all the story just had this mean, pissed off attitude to it. There was humor, but it wasn't that impactful and felt just lazy tbh.

 

Single player and Online felt like two different games at times. I believe that there were two different teams working on SP and Online. It just doesn't seem to fit together. For example, how long did it take to get waypoints from the select button implemented in SP? Or property that you could purchase online, but not in SP. Add to that the side missions and activities and you'll understand why my SP brethren are kinda ticked off.

 

Adding things like LS Customs and haircuts were nice, but I think a lot of people would like fast food joints return as example. Just some of the design choices were strange. Like how ammunation only had one shooting range. They had parachutes, but not the ability to teleport to the top of a building like in SA or TBoGT. The driving mechanics were just off, personally I liked IV's version better. NPC physics were off, again much better in IV. Why can't we crouch? Why can't I jump across a small section rather than flailing till I hit the ground? I mean just some really strange choices, choices that they seemed to have right in previous games.

 

Vigilante missions in SP

 

Cops and Crooks in Online.

 

IV did this well and we had fun doing it. Why is so hard to ask for a feature well enjoyed to return? I'm glad we have car washes though. If yoga is in the game, why not have more places to go? Yoga on the beach would be great! (no I'm not kidding).

 

If you want to characterize that as complaining, fine. My hope, and the community as well i think, is to make a better game through feedback. R* has listened in the past, bike stunting that was nerfed in a previous update as an example. I would hope that in a future update, or the next version, some of these issues would be addressed. It wouldn't take much, they have the design down, just make it better and more fun. What's the harm in that??

[KyojinEM]

There were Heists in GTA III at the beginning lol

Vice City had a real heist

San Andreas had a casino heist

GTA IV had a big bank heist

GTA V wasnt the first grand theft auto with heists

btw i cant remember the heists from V

only the first one was memorable

 

GTA with heists is a codex

Edited March 29, 2015 by emiliumium

[Turan]

There were Heists in GTA III at the beginning lol

Vice City had a real heist

San Andreas had a casino heist

GTA IV had a big bank heist

GTA V wasnt the first grand theft auto with heists

btw i cant remember the heists from V

only the first one was memorable

 

 

If you think the heists in those games are comparable to that of GTAV then you're not being honest. Heists were the central theme of GTAV for f*cks sake.