You're all puppets...

[Mista J]

Tangled in strings. You want the games to evolve, and when they do you miraculously hate change....Change. For years you begged for an online component that rivaled single player. And what do you do when they listen? You complain. There's nothing wrong with Rockstar it's the fan base tht has grown into selfish, selfentitled little sh*ts that rivals the Call of Duty community in cringe worthy people.

 

You wanted planes, they gave you planes. You wanted vehicle customization, f*cking ditto. You wanted a less gritty story, f*cking hell, the GTA V story is Dr. Seuss compared to IV.

 

You complain with any tiny graphical glitch that you'd think that Rockstar came to your house and f*ck yer mum.

 

Next you'll complain that the game isn't linear enough.

 

f*ck y'all.

[Edward Nashton]

Relax Ultron, you've got bigger things to worry about.

[Choco Taco]

You want the games to evolve, and when they do you miraculously hate change....Change.

 

Changes should make the game better, not worse. I posted this yesterday:

 

 

 

They took a step back in a lot of things in V. I don't have access to GTA Online and single player has gotten stale, so yesterday I decided to play IV and do some Vigilante and mess around. There are a lot of things better in IV that make playing it more fun than V.

- the crashes are better

- you can target specific body parts and push peds

- the reticle is much easier to see when shooting from cars

- you can get peds arrested

- you can crouch to avoid gunfire while moving

- you can leave car engines running for quick getaways

- one star wanted levels don't last way too long like in V

- at 2 stars, cops won't kill you with one shotgun blast

- explosions don't spread as unrealistically as they do in V

- you can let the wasted screen last longer which can be fun watching what happens

- no cop rubber-banding and having your wheels turned automatically when they bump you

- being able to save cheats in the phone for easy access

 

 

If things get less enjoyable, people complain. Blame Rockstar.

[Mr_Leone]

[Crockett and Tubbs]

Huh?

[Gummy]

Yes, remember the bad things and ignore the good improvements.

[A.O.D.88]

Hey, the GTA fan community never asked for online multiplayer to be the core focus of the franchise! GTA IV's multiplayer was perfectly sufficient and all that the franchise needed in that area. Many of us here are rightfully upset at rockstar for ruining the good balance that IV had by severely over-focusing on the online at singleplayer's expense with V.

[Crockett and Tubbs]

Hey, the GTA fan community never asked for online multiplayer to be the core focus of the franchise! GTA IV's multiplayer was perfectly sufficient and all that the franchise needed in that area. Many of us here are rightfully upset at rockstar for ruining the good balance that IV had by severely over-focusing on the online at singleplayer's expense with V.

This. Rockstar should have stuck with the fundamentals of IV's multiplayer instead of making it noob-friendly and filled with chrome cars, annoying horns, and comical masks that aren't that funny.

[Osho]

Tangled in strings. You want the games to evolve, and when they do you miraculously hate change....Change

What change? Please list all the changes here that you think they made towards making the single-player experience a lot better than any game to date, right NOW!

For years you begged for an online component that rivaled single player.

I didn't. All I always wanted, waited, hoped, expected, requested, and happy to have was a fine SP experience.

And what do you do when they listen? You complain.

Because they deserved it, just like, I've always been more than happy to put an effort and reach out to appreciate them.

There's nothing wrong with Rockstar it's the fan base tht has grown into selfish, selfentitled little sh*ts that rivals the Call of Duty community in cringe worthy people

Quit, GTA F then, alright sweetie?

You wanted planes, they gave you planes. You wanted vehicle customization, f*cking ditto. You wanted a less gritty story, f*cking hell, the GTA V story is Dr. Seuss compared to IV.

Everytime I read this bullsh*t, I feel like my IQ dropped significantly.

Listen! They did all of that not because we wanted but mainly due to they returned to "San Andreas".

Get it?

 

You complain with any tiny graphical glitch that you'd think that Rockstar came to your house and f*ck yer mum.

blah...blah...blah....next..

Next you'll complain that the game isn't linear enough

Its not. The story missions are definitely not.

Now, what?

f*ck y'all.

f*ck ONLINE. SP rules. I don't get the impression that you're a true GTA fan, the way you're talking with such an anger against single-players.

[Geralt of Rivia]

Lol.

Yeah, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that all the major things people complained about in IV were changed in GTA V because it took place in San Andreas.

Like the driving physics. Surely changed because we're in SA!

The story length? Obviously shorter and more action-packed because San Andreas!

Same goes for everything that changed. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, and instead of doing it because it was complained about, R* just ignored their fans and JUST HAPPENED TO CHANGE THE MOST COMPLAINED ABOUT THINGS IN THE LAST GAME BECAUSE WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT SETTING.

No wonder your IQ drops when you think things like that.

 

It's about as much of a coincidence as a phone's next model having features people requested when using the older model. They totally added features in 'just because', and definitely not because the consumers wanted them to. Nope. No way. I lose IQ just thinking about that logical fallacy.

 

And "true fans" are only things that sad people bring up. Don't be a sad person. Don't be a tool. You're better than that.

Edited March 29, 2015 by TheMasterfocker

[Mista J]

Lol, I'm not a true fan because I actually realize that these days Multiplayer can be or even is as important to a game as single player. Get with the times, peeps. We're not in the early 2000s anymore

[hornedturtle]

I don't remember when i complained.....I'll look into it.

[Mr_Leone]

Lol, I'm not a true fan because I actually realize that these days Multiplayer can be or even is as important to a game as single player. Get with the times, peeps. We're not in the early 2000s anymore

IV was released in 2008. I'm going to assume it must be a long time for you, because you were born post 9/11.

Edited March 29, 2015 by Mr_Leone

[Mista J]

I'm 14!

[Choco Taco]

Lol, I'm not a true fan because I actually realize that these days Multiplayer can be or even is as important to a game as single player. Get with the times, peeps. We're not in the early 2000s anymore

 

[Geralt of Rivia]

That is disturbing, to say the least.

[Edward Nashton]

Wow, I'm surprised this thread got this much traction, he started off by quoting the goddamn villain from the Avengers 2 Age of Ultron trailer, Jesus.

But enough of this, *in a gravelly voice* Now I'm free... There are no strings...attached to me.

[Mista J]

That is offensive, sir. I don't have braces, nor acne.

[Geralt of Rivia]

Alright Choco, seriously, I'm totally legit scared right now.

 

How did you get that picture of me?

[Acetaminophen]

I just asked for a good game.

[Mista J]

I just asked for a good game.

AND YOU GOT ONE MOTHERf*ckER!

[S1N0D3UTSCHT3K]

vocal minority and all that

 

 

there's far more people enjoying GTAO every night than complaining in GTAF

 

i wouldn't think or worry about it too much

[ItsJustMeSrsly]

vocal minority and all that

 

 

there's far more people enjoying GTAO every night than complaining in GTAF

 

i wouldn't think or worry about it too much

 

Vocal majority doesn't just emerge up from nothing! If it is there, then maybe its because you're doing something wrong?...just think about it for a second! If game would be as good as some of you people say it is, wouldn't it lead to a much lesser hate? Wouldn't it mean that those vocal majority would take their time actually enjoying the hell of the game, other than sitting on GTAForums and complaining??...But off course lets blame R* lazyness and all the GTAV problems/bugs/glitches/missed opportunities onto the "vocal majority", because they cannot get over how broken GTAV is!...thanks to GTAO btw!...

Edited March 29, 2015 by ItsJustMeSrsly

[Mr_Goldcard]

The gunshots also sound unrealistic

[Acetaminophen]

 

I just asked for a good game.

AND YOU GOT ONE MOTHERf*ckER!

 

debatable.

[zuckmeslow]

i remember those f*ckfaces at cvg hyping up the game talking about how when they saw the preview at rockstar the map was so massive, they could not see the coast because the map was so massive and they saw people camping over by streams. assholes

 

and the screenshots where so misleading

look at how massive the mountain range looks

 

and look at how huge and interesting and mysterious this one makes paleto look. and i remember people where talking about going shopping in the store

 

can someone tell me where this forest is?

 

whoa this desert looks huge

 

realistic mud. and this picture makes the map look so much more varied than it is

 

blur filter and depth of field enhancer

 

yea this is what it really looks like

 

LOOK AT HOW MASSIVE THIS MAKES THE MAP LOOK

 

 

remember cvg and everyone else hyping up customizable license plates because the trailers showed different plates? yea you have to download an app for that.

what about the animal ark store. everyone thought we could customize chop and play with him. nope you need to buy an app for that.

 

 

 

some of us love gta v. some of us hate gta v. some of us think it is ok. but no matter what you think of gta v its not a perfect game. the map sucks. it just flat out sucks. if you honestly like the map, think to yourself, if you remove all the characters and npc, and you add rico rodriguez. then it would feel like just cause 3. not a gta game.

 

liberty city while it was too small to capture the feel of new york city and jersey city, it still felt very detailed, with narrow roads, repair crews, and reasons to go to other parts of the map. it just felt nice and i cant expain it. but you know there was something magic about liberty city.

 

san andreas from gta san andreas, felt massive. and every city had different feel and there where reasons to make a trip from one to the other.

 

but in gta v. the map sucks, it feels too empty and too cluttered at the same time. the city is clumped up in one corner and surrounded by mountains and empty fields. thats it. what is there to do in paleto bay? everything in paleto can be found in los santos. there is no reason to cross a boring highway to get to a boring ass town that has nothing interesting. and sandy shores is only exciting the first few times until you realize there is nothing unique about it. remember that bs about being treated differently depending where you went, they treated all three protags the same for me.

 

los santos itself has certain nice parts but overall the downtown looks the same and is not exiting to look at or to even hang out in. the airport is a big nothing that is basically half the size of los santos. it all fells very generic and not like a gta game at all, if you told me that this was a beta map for the next sleeping dogs or just cause game i would believe it, but Grand theft auto? no way mofo sack. no interiors, no unique cities, boring desert and plains, mountains that take up disk space but dont add fun.

 

the map in general is not good to look at while traveling from one corner to the other, its very cluttered. why so many mountains.

 

there are no straight roads, no large forests, no variety. its a cluttered mess of mountains, open areas, copy and paste streets and underwater that no one cared about.

another thing i would like to add is if you look at gta 4's liberty city and you look at san andreas, there is something on every inch of the island. nothing is left open, san andreas is packed full of variety and the fact that it has only a small amount of empty space makes it feel huge. but if you look at gta v's map. there is so much negative space. weather its from mountains or open plains. there is basically nothing. it does not feel like a gta map. every gta map was full of things exept V

 

remember cvg and everyone else hyping up customizable license plates because the trailers showed different plates? yea you have to download an app for that.

what about the animal ark store. everyone thought we could customize chop and play with him. nope you need to buy an app for that.

this game has so many filler missions. missions that make me say, is this grand theft auto 5, or crane simulator 2013.

the story was rushed imo and the map layout was terrible.

we got barely any interiors, but its ok because we have a vast ocean bed to explore, to bad the submarine is boring a sh*t.

the heists in the game where boring and not even as intense as three leaf clover in gta 4. the game was referencing heat so much that all we got was a very nice cutscene of them ramming an armored truck, but its ok because we get to shoot waves of police npc. how fun

there is no suspense in a heist. the paleto heist you have the juggernaut suits that make you feel invincible, the bureau raid was heavily scripted. and the jewel store heist was boring.

the game was about the "pursuit of the almighty dollar" remember when they said that. the game introduces heists but it takes place in the wrong city. the game would have made more sense taking place in las venturas. we could have gotten a freaking casino heist similar to oceans 11 which would have been more fun then a jewl store. las vegas is known for its money, why even have these three is los santos. trevor lives in the desert and has ron, a paranoide conspiracy theorist. why is ron not over in las venturas salivating about area 69. seriously trevor should have been living in the las venturas desert with ron, franklin would have been living in the las venturas ghetto with the gangs, and michael would have been living in the wealthy side of las venturas somewhere close to the strip

i could see all three living in las venturas much more than i could see them living in los santos. besides the fact that michael likes movies, its not like he needs los santos. las vegas is hot, he could gamble and could have a gambling problem hence the need to go and get money, and frank and lamar seem like the type to live in vegas and party at the strip clubs and casinos. i already mentioned trevor but hes the exact type of person to be living out on a trailer park in the desert, not an abandoned town in socal. area 69 would have been a much more interesting place than fort zancudo and might have even given us reason to care about merryweather. like maybe merryweather comes from area 69 and trevor gets them pissed of while landing his plane on their runway.

it would not have taken too much console resources to do a las venturas the size of los santos and a massive open desert with small towns and lots of other good stuff. how the hell are you going to pick los santos and not even have it revolve around vinewood. thats like if they do liberty city, but the game only has missions in alderny. wtf is the point.

 

i find it funny how gta online has more missions than the main story.

all this game needed was a slower paced story, everything happens so fast and i feel it was done this way so we could all just play gta online. but if the game just had more missions and more missions that actually had to do with grand theft auto instead of picking things up with a crane or doing yoga. seriously i feel like this game should have been a movie. the script and dialogue is fantastic and whitty but it doesnt work as a VIDEO GAME. there was a new character introduced after every mission, but no depth was added to that character.

i felt nothing for simeon, he was in 2 missions thats it

who the hell was tanisha. wtf was the point of having her in the campaign if she shows up for 2 cutscenes and just drops off the face of the world.

i didnt even know who agent sanchez was until i replayed the game.

 

and what the hell was up with this madrazo guy, hes built up as the main antagonist and then becomes a flaccid background character that causes no more trouble for the protagonists.

 

the side character where criminally underused. ron would have been one of the most fun characters to do missions for. ron is a paranoide conspiracy theorist who has his own freaking radio show and you mean to tell me he doesnt give out a single mission. wasted potential. he could have sent one of the protags to go look for ghosts or aliens, go explore fort zancudo or the abandoned hotel at sandy shores. he could have given out fun missions but instead, we have to walk around the map looking for spaceship parts for this hippie guy if we wanted get a space ship buggy. really? what is this legend of zelda. why do i have to walk around getting parts. i thought this was grand theft auto, the revolutionary game series.

its things like that that makes the game feel empty. michael works at a movie studio and we dont even get any side missions related to it. how many times do you have to sit in a movie theater and watch meltdown to get enjoyment. movie studio + grand theft auto should equal some crazy missions. how is it that we dont have stuntman missions. a 2013 gta game still doesnt have stuntman missions? but we can sit in a movie theater and watch a boring 5 minute film. DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM I AM HAVING WITH THIS GAME.

what about snapmatic, i freaking love snapmatic, exept i cant even use snapmatic. i am one of the many people out there that have a glitch on their snapmatics that doesnt allow upload of photos and there is no patch for it. great, so now what can i do with the phone. browse the web, awesome im on the internet in a grand theft auto game.

the shooting, the shooting in my opinion is terrible. every gun has tracer rounds and every shooter is a crackshot. your health depletes faster than in any splinter cell game.

speaking of splinter cell how awesome is it that we can customize our weapons and try out the new "stealth feature" . now i can finally live out my gta fantasy of going ontop of a building and sniping people with a silenced sniper. oops too bad cops can now smell silenced rounds and will send out the helicopters to come deal with me.

remember in gta 4 when you jumped out of a car and niko bounced off the roads. reamember in gta when you jumped out of a car and mike trev frank did that wierd slide on the road thing.

Edited March 29, 2015 by zuckmeslow

[ItsJustMeSrsly]

 

 

I just asked for a good game.

AND YOU GOT ONE MOTHERf*ckER!

 

debatable.

 

 

It isn't! Like i said if it game was as good as op says there would be no reason for the "vocal majority", that whines and complains to exist!...If you see majority of people complaining 24/7 maybe its time to just accept you f*ked up?? Instead of blaming these people for not understanding R*'s issues and how hard it is for the developer to do their damn job, maybe they should have come out and say "look guys, yeah we f*ked up, but don't worry we'll address all the issues and fix a lot of things you're complaining about in our next update, we'll also let you people know what exactly changes are made by posting changes summary as soon as next update will be available" - something among the lines! Instead we've got angry people, that try to educate others how they should enjoy their game or not and stop blaming R* for their failures!...

[Uncle Vlad]

Tangled in strings. You want the games to evolve, and when they do you miraculously hate change....Change. For years you begged for an online component that rivaled single player. And what do you do when they listen? You complain. There's nothing wrong with Rockstar it's the fan base tht has grown into selfish, selfentitled little sh*ts that rivals the Call of Duty community in cringe worthy people.

 

You wanted planes, they gave you planes. You wanted vehicle customization, f*cking ditto. You wanted a less gritty story, f*cking hell, the GTA V story is Dr. Seuss compared to IV.

 

You complain with any tiny graphical glitch that you'd think that Rockstar came to your house and f*ck yer mum.

 

Next you'll complain that the game isn't linear enough.

 

f*ck y'all.

 

Dan Houser, is this you?

[Osho]

Lol. Yeah, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that all the major things people complained about in IV were changed in GTA V because it took place in San Andreas. Like the driving physics. Surely changed because we're in SA! The story length? Obviously shorter and more action-packed because San Andreas! Same goes for everything that changed. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, and instead of doing it because it was complained about, R* just ignored their fans and JUST HAPPENED TO CHANGE THE MOST COMPLAINED ABOUT THINGS IN THE LAST GAME BECAUSE WE'RE IN WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT SETTING.

what are you reading dude?

I'm only talking about the things that were present in SA but they returned now with V.

I don't see IV as the reason for "inclusion" of certain things in V, at all.

The only thing they did change between both - IV and V - are certain common features - whether for better or worse, that's subjective.

It was a decision by the team to create GTA IV based on the realistic environment and setting, and not include any wide open areas as seen in San Andreas.

Yes, players ( including myself )complained about missing stuff.

But then, after realising that everything they wanted was a more realistic approach that led to removal certain features, so that it makes sense for the setting, and the narrative they were focusing.

So, it really makes no sense to blame IV as the reason for "addition" of things that were present already in San Andreas. If anything, they may have looked into the complaints regarding the features introduced in IV and later changed them with V due to the engine RAGE used in both games.

Simple as that.

[gtaguy95]

Tangled in strings. You want the games to evolve, and when they do you miraculously hate change....Change. For years you begged for an online component that rivaled single player. And what do you do when they listen? You complain. There's nothing wrong with Rockstar it's the fan base tht has grown into selfish, selfentitled little sh*ts that rivals the Call of Duty community in cringe worthy people.

 

You wanted planes, they gave you planes. You wanted vehicle customization, f*cking ditto. You wanted a less gritty story, f*cking hell, the GTA V story is Dr. Seuss compared to IV.

 

You complain with any tiny graphical glitch that you'd think that Rockstar came to your house and f*ck yer mum.

 

Next you'll complain that the game isn't linear enough.

 

f*ck y'all.

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