(SPOILERS!) Which thing is bigger slap to the older games...?

[Fuzzknuckles]

Johnny K in a nutshell:

 

Wants to leave his gang of brothers because of the drugs and the lifestyle, kills most of them, runs away and gets back into drugs and being a biker.

 

What the f*ck wants to play as a character with so little conviction? Whining little leather clad prick.

[killerx2]

I seriously hope that the dlc, even if it isn't about Trevor, starts off with Trevor crushing CJ's head like what he did with Johnny K, then looking straight up and giving us the finger.

[Ezza.]

I seriously hope that the dlc, even if it isn't about Trevor, starts off with Trevor crushing CJ's head like what he did with Johnny K, then looking straight up and giving us the finger.

I hope that they do exactly that, but with Niko instead

[Algonquin Assassin]

 

I seriously hope that the dlc, even if it isn't about Trevor, starts off with Trevor crushing CJ's head like what he did with Johnny K, then looking straight up and giving us the finger.

 

I hope that they do exactly that, but with Niko instead

Must...resist...hitting...ban...button.

[AzelfandQuilava]

 

 

I seriously hope that the dlc, even if it isn't about Trevor, starts off with Trevor crushing CJ's head like what he did with Johnny K, then looking straight up and giving us the finger.

I hope that they do exactly that, but with Niko instead

Must...resist...hitting...ban...button.

 

*Sarcastically, I'm not wanting them banned...*

 

[Edward Nashton]

 

The Lost were introduced as enemies in IV

They weren't really enemies, just a group of people stopping you from reaching a certain goal for both Niko and Luis. Niko's enemies were Dimitri and the Russian Mob, Luis's enemy was, I don't know, Rocco? Do The Lost shoot the protagonists on sight? Do they play a big role in either one of their's stories? No.

 

Your original complaint was that V made the entire Lost MC look like pussies by making them target practice for the player, my response was that in IV Niko kills the MC's enforcer and treasurer quite easily and in TBOGT Luis blows half of them to hell from a limo while a flamboyant gay man criticizes his driving and makes sassy quips. I know they weren't the enemies of Niko and Luis but your fist encounter with the Lost was murdering one of them. I have nothing against them, really, but they were never portrayed as the untouchable badasses people seem remember them as.

[Dangerous and sad]

"Boo hoo, they changed Grove St."

 

Yeah, because it's not f*cking possible for turf to be taken and claimed? Right? Riiiight?

 

Those of you saying that Grove Street's gang change was a slap in the face really have no clue what you're talking about. I'm positive that killing a protagonist in such a sh*t way is more of a "f*ck you" to the fanbase than a bunch of NPCs walking on the sidewalk of a Cul-de-sac. Besides, the Ballas probably owned Grove St. first considering V is in a different canon than SA.

listen to the dialogue of the ballas in hood safari during the shootout.. "Families got kicked out of here a long time again""grove street ain't families turf no more".

[The Dedito Gae]

top notch copying mecanism,points for pretentious, an R rated character is suddenly for kids i have a pic fer ya:

 

 

lol

 

 

Edited April 12, 2015 by Midnight Hitman

[Krysalis]

Im just wondering how story dlc will be for V, hopefuly something interesting alot. PC version is coming in 2 days i cant wait, and then they have to announance Agent, so many after that.

[Son of Zeus]

Im just wondering how story dlc will be for V, hopefuly something interesting alot.

Don't expect something great. There's rumour going around that R* said it will be scripted assassination missions.

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

Im just wondering how story dlc will be for V, hopefuly something interesting alot.

Don't expect something great. There's rumour going around that R* said it will be scripted assassination missions.

How is there a rumor about what R* said? I don't get it. Did you misspeak or something?

[SmokesWithCigs]

 

The Lost were introduced as enemies in IV, I remember killing several Lost members as Niko - two of whom were high ranking members and in TBOGT Luis slaughters what must have been half of the chapter;

 

When I played this mission I never noticed I was killing the lost. Now I don't feel so bad about in when I do it in GTA v. I felt kinda bad about killing terry and clay. I liked those guys.

 

starts at 5:30

 

 

 

How on earth can someone say that that game is better than V?

[Agathodaemon]

The fact that Niko "went quiet". Not telling us if he is alive or dead.

We know that Niko is still alive from his profile page on Jimmys computer.

[SmokesWithCigs]

 

 

The Lost were introduced as enemies in IV, I remember killing several Lost members as Niko - two of whom were high ranking members and in TBOGT Luis slaughters what must have been half of the chapter;

When I played this mission I never noticed I was killing the lost. Now I don't feel so bad about in when I do it in GTA v. I felt kinda bad about killing terry and clay. I liked those guys.

starts at 5:30

How on earth can someone say that that game is better than V?

How can any body say that driving is realistic. Look at how the chassis sways even at low speeds. Not realistic at all. I didn't realize I was killing lost bikers when I played this mission. Now I don't feel so bad about killing them in v. I only felt bad about killing terry and clay I liked those guys.

[MrDeSanta]

JK`s death for sure.

I don`t care much for Grove St because it isn`t such an important aspect of this game as it was in SA.

[Len Lfc]

 

"Boo hoo, they changed Grove St."

 

Yeah, because it's not f*cking possible for turf to be taken and claimed? Right? Riiiight?

 

Those of you saying that Grove Street's gang change was a slap in the face really have no clue what you're talking about. I'm positive that killing a protagonist in such a sh*t way is more of a "f*ck you" to the fanbase than a bunch of NPCs walking on the sidewalk of a Cul-de-sac. Besides, the Ballas probably owned Grove St. first considering V is in a different canon than SA.

listen to the dialogue of the ballas in hood safari during the shootout.. "Families got kicked out of here a long time again""grove street ain't families turf no more".

 

Yeah. & if you stick with Lamar when escaping the police in 'Hood Safari' Lamar will give you a little story about the old families who made it big & left Grove Street. In this universe it's not the people we know & love, but kinda a mirror of some homies who got rich & left.

[theGTAking101]

Johnny K's death by far.

 

As for Grove Street, I'm not mad about the Ballas being there, I'm mad that they changed the layout so much. Now I understand the bullsh*t universe thing that Rockstar created for whatever reason, but Grove Street should've at least looked similar to the SA version. In V it just looks like a normal cul-de-sac. What happened to the bridge, the iconic houses? And probably the thing that annoys me the most is the fact that instead of the half circle cul-de-sac in SA, they made it into a full circle.

 

Edited April 12, 2015 by theGTAking101

[Zello]

Johnny K's death by far.

 

As for Grove Street, I'm not mad about the Ballas being there, I'm mad that they changed the layout so much. Now I understand the bullsh*t universe thing that Rockstar created for whatever reason, but Grove Street should've at least looked similar to the SA version. In V it just looks like a normal cul-de-sac. What happened to the bridge, the iconic houses? And probably the thing that annoys me the most is the fact that instead of the half circle cul-de-sac in SA, they made it into a full circle.

 

This

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

Trevor killing Johnny. Probably the biggest instance of PIS and CIS in recorded history. Having a good protagonist become a drug-addicted mess and then getting killed for the sake of shock value and getting people to like Trevor.

The grove street thing never bothered me much. I didn't expect CJ to be at his house or anything, since they are in different universes and that would just be silly.

He had already been hooked on them before, and being involved in his kind of lifestyle isn't exactly very forgiving. Edited April 13, 2015 by TheGoodSgtScooter

[Haha365]

C. none of the above

Actually the lack of actual criminal activites is more of a slap in the face.

[Mintal]

Both can't be called a "slap to the older games" in my opinion.

 

I actually found it pretty cool that Grove Street was taken over by Ballas.

 

Johnny? Well, I've never really cared about him. They way Trevor killed him was more funny than "shocking" to me. After his death I was more like "Oh. Okay." than "Wow, holy sh*t, what the f*ck?".

Edited April 13, 2015 by Mintal

[SuperGTFan]

Gotta be Klebitz's death.

[MrDeSanta]

Oh there are far more slaps to the older GTAs than just JK`s death or Groove St. believe me.

Huge f*cking slaps like every character that`s being reused from the older GTAs was turned into a complete idiot. The characters that were pretty well written in the past GTAs turned out complete twats in V. Aside from Johnny the jew, the biggest badass in TLAD being a poor f*cked up methhead in V there`s alot of other characters than R* f*cked them up in V. Like Terry and Clay, like every other biker that was turned into a small time pickpocket robbing bystanders for wallets....

Or Packie McReary, a huge badass from IV turned out obnoxious, annoying, loud mouthing asshole who went robbing a store before realizing he`s got no transport....

or Rocco Pelossi a member of Ancelotti family in LC turned out a fake tanned, fake hair colour movie agent douchebag....

or Michelle from LC paper in IV turned out a sadistic torturing bitch in V....

not to mention Lazlow..

 

And so on. Every character they reused from past GTA games they f*cked up totally.

And those slaps sure aren`t the only ones. There`s more like the story that has no meanings anymore, the antagonists that they are no threat anymore, the f*cked up endings and yoga instead of drug wars...

 

etc etc etc...

 

GTA V sure is the GTA full of slaps to the older GTAs.

[OGLuke]

both choices make me wanna smack rockstar in the head but what really got me down about GTA V is that it's the most linear GTA i've ever played. Even GTA 3 offers more freedom in terms of how you complete a mission and it was made in 2000.

 

GTA followed the narrative way too much, it forgot that the side content is what keeps the player, playing after they've beaten the story line. I care not to replay a game that's setup is that of a movie where as each mission feels like a scripted event.

Edited June 7, 2015 by OGLuke

[Osho]

both choices make me wanna smack rockstar in the head but what really got me down about GTA V is that it's the most linear GTA i've ever played. Even GTA 3 offers more freedom in terms of how you complete a mission and it was made in 2000.02 02 GTA followed the narrative way too much, it forgot that the side content is what keeps the player, playing after they've beaten the story line. I care not to replay a game that's setup is that of a movie where as each mission feels like a scripted event.

Exactly! I was and still pointing out the same observations as written by you but the fangirls miscontrue me as upset and disappointed because my expectations were just beyond Rockstar to deliver and I did not get the game which Rockstar never promise in the trailers.

Lol ..The flawed excecution of their sh*tty gameplay, the missing sanbox feeling, the declining freedom and player agency, the catering to the lowest common denominator, etc is what worries me about their direction, ALOT, compared to how they started off the series' than my own personal wishes/expectations.

[OGLuke]

 

 

 

Exactly! I was and still pointing out the same observations

 

You're doing A great job of it. As you said where are the sandbox elements that made GTA the king of sandbox games? Is not every other game it's been compared to not been called a GTA clone? Well nobody wants to clone a GTA V, more san andreas and IV clones are what's needed if you're going to call it a GTA clone make sure you have criminal activity.

 

GTAV is a crime simulator and it's biggest crime is that there aren't many criminal activities. Where are the gang wars? Why did the god awful taxi missions return but not vigilante? If anything, I'd much rather be pointed to a target i'm suppose to kill not pick up and drive them to someplace else, I will admit it'd make for an elaborate ruse if you chose to murder someone but you can't kill any of your passengers as it fails the stupid mission.

 

I laugh at how many ways there are to fail a mission.

 

in the merryweather heist I failed the mission because I left my sniping post as franklin. hmm, maybe he didn't want to be a sniper, maybe franklin wanted to go down there and take those f*ckers on in close combat. but no with franklin, you have to be a f*cking sniper. What a buttf*ck of sh*t.

Edited June 7, 2015 by OGLuke

[B Dawg]

 

 

The Lost were introduced as enemies in IV

They weren't really enemies, just a group of people stopping you from reaching a certain goal for both Niko and Luis. Niko's enemies were Dimitri and the Russian Mob, Luis's enemy was, I don't know, Rocco? Do The Lost shoot the protagonists on sight? Do they play a big role in either one of their's stories? No.

 

Your original complaint was that V made the entire Lost MC look like pussies by making them target practice for the player, my response was that in IV Niko kills the MC's enforcer and treasurer quite easily and in TBOGT Luis blows half of them to hell from a limo while a flamboyant gay man criticizes his driving and makes sassy quips. I know they weren't the enemies of Niko and Luis but your fist encounter with the Lost was murdering one of them. I have nothing against them, really, but they were never portrayed as the untouchable badasses people seem remember them as.

 

The TBOGT 'slaughter' by throwing sticky bombs all over the place I consider non-canon and just purposely made that way to fit in with the rest of the game's explosions everywhere theme. Johnny didn't even bring that many brothers to the deal.

[The Dedito Gae]

Or Packie McReary, a huge badass from IV turned out obnoxious, annoying, loud mouthing asshole who went robbing a store before realizing he`s got no transport....

or Rocco Pelossi a member of Ancelotti family in LC turned out a fake tanned, fake hair colour movie agent douchebag....

or Michelle from LC paper in IV turned out a sadistic torturing bitch in V....

not to mention Lazlow..

these peeps are just the same, Packie was always a unproffesional loudmouth, Rocco was always a douchebag,Lazlow was always a creep and Michelle, well, Niko never got to truly meet her.

 

do you just log in here to senseless whine about V or what?

[MrDeSanta]

 

Or Packie McReary, a huge badass from IV turned out obnoxious, annoying, loud mouthing asshole who went robbing a store before realizing he`s got no transport....

or Rocco Pelossi a member of Ancelotti family in LC turned out a fake tanned, fake hair colour movie agent douchebag....

or Michelle from LC paper in IV turned out a sadistic torturing bitch in V....

not to mention Lazlow..

these peeps are just the same, Packie was always a unproffesional loudmouth, Rocco was always a douchebag,Lazlow was always a creep and Michelle, well, Niko never got to truly meet her.

 

do you just log in here to senseless whine about V or what?

 

yes i do, so? still better than being paranoidly obsessed with someone`s posts to go actively searching for them and replying on it.

 

In reality i`d deal with you in 2 seconds but on here i just have to read your pathetic replies. Unfortunatelly. But really just how old are you dude? Because it`s not really normal for someone to get so buthurt over this. Unless they`re -15

I insulted your fav game character and you`re going to be buthurt untill the rest of your life...welll boo hoo hoo.

 

You can insult Michael every day, 1000x day and i`m not going to be buthurt because of that. Just plug your brains and think how silly you turn out.

[The Dedito Gae]

In reality i`d deal with you in 2 seconds but on here i just have to read your pathetic replies.

 

seriously?

i reply to you 2 times on a day and i'm "following you"

 

now, please explain how Packie was a profesional bank robber who didn't argued with his brother in middle of a bank robbery, how Rocco waesn't a tan douche in TBOGT, how Lazlow wasn't a obnoxious creep in every game he "appeared", how you know Michelle's true personality, even though she was acting with Niko.

Edited June 7, 2015 by Midnight Hitman