The Deadite Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Seeing Johnny K as a pathetic methhead getting killed by Trevor or Grove Street infested with Ballas? both things are a a slap to older games. Edited March 27, 2015 by Midnight Hitman Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1369 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Groove Street lol. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygrowls Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The fact that Niko "went quiet". Not telling us if he is alive or dead. Lisha, staar, UltraGizmo64 and 12 others 15 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Yoga I mean like really? Yoga? In a crime game? The bridge missing near Grove St. Johnny hurt the most though... Edited April 11, 2015 by Zello Loki_The_Coyote, Akatsuky, SM Grunge and 7 others 10 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowi Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Nothing hyperar, Dope_0110, wiizardii and 8 others 11 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiizardii Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Erm... None. Like what, is this the thread about angry nostalgic fanboys able to get their frustration out? Lowi, Alec Skorpio, GourangaMaster and 11 others 14 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deadite Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Erm... None. Like what, is this the thread about angry nostalgic fanboys able to get their frustration out? humm, yes, a lot of people like(d) Johnny K and the status quo of Groove Street. this inclusions/changes are unnecesary. Woah_brah_what_is_this and ADropInTheOcean 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzelfandQuilava Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 humm, yes, a lot of people like(d) Johnny K Z E N D E R, wiizardii, ADropInTheOcean and 8 others 11 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I really liked Johnny. And I didn't like Trevor for a bit after he killed Johnny. But I didn't spend weeks crying and being upset with Rockstar for doing that, and trying to argue that it shouldn't have happened, and that the story THEY WROTE for the character THEY CREATED didn't "make sense." Especially when TLAD hinted at Johnny's past drug abuse. its_ceri_d, Jimbatron and SaucyPow3r 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicPunk Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Johnny Klibbitz was a little girl and started playing with the big boys and got put in his place. Hell, that was the only great thing that I can really say that was good in GTAV. k0NG3ØRN and iddqdvie 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Cat Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 TLAD had a better storyline than V. Period. Shaundi., redpoint, .Ryan. and 23 others 26 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choco Taco Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The Johnny scene was the bigger slap not because of his death, but because of the way it was written. Anyone who's a fan of the series and has half a brain can clearly see that it was done for shock value. RoachKiller_416, NightmanCometh96, The Green Sabre and 17 others 20 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067199496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 They do get groovy on Groove Street coming to think about it. PeriodZeroHero, theGTAking101, The Deadite and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067202063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Neither. But if I have to choose..... Grove Street k0NG3ØRN 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067202113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixion Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Johnny K dieing was probably the bigger slap in the face. It didn't make much sense because it went against everything that TLaD ended with. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but it just cheapens their own writing of that character. I liked Johnny as a character, I understand that he isn't invincible, but it was like seeing bizarro Johnny die and with no explanation of why he was like that. Groove street on the other hand actually makes sense. First off it isn't the Grove street from SA. They base it around the same story though on how the Families once had control over it but ended up all moving out as they became richer. It always show's the difference between 90's Compton and 2010's Compton. Gang banging and fronting isn't as wild as it used to be and all the past members moved on with their lives or died. One by one Balla's move onto the street and eventually it becomes their area. You don't see many people in V fighting for new turf. they just relax where they are. UltraGizmo64, Lisha, Zinou03 and 6 others 9 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067202128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertighost Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Calling Grove street, Groove street, is the bigger "slap". Edited March 27, 2015 by Vertighost Voit Turyv, Cutter De Blanc, The Deadite and 9 others 12 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067202177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Nashton Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Hated to see Johnny go the way he went but frankly I remember expecting him to die tragically at the end of TLAD, he was a smarter than average thug but lived hard and fast like the rest of the Lost and they were dropping like flies back then. So, considering that and his toxic relationship with Ashley, his fate was a logical conclusion Maybe it's because I'm a cynic, but I really can't imagine any of the GTA protagonists riding off into the sunset and living happily ever after, no matter how much I like these characters I feel they would eventually die tragic or foolish deaths like poor Johnny K. V's is an alternate version but I never cared for Grove street, I hated how Sweet would guilt trip CJ into fighting for that slum when by the end of the game he was a successful real estate owner, businessman and talent manager that reached the level of a serious organized crime boss. Let the Ballas have it. "What the hood done for me?! Always dragging me down! Ever since I got out the hood sh*t been cracking!" ―Carl Johnson http://gta.wikia.com/Carl_Johnson Edited March 27, 2015 by Edward Nashton UltraGizmo64, A.O.D.88 and Dijital Binali 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067202229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick930930 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 None. They killed Johnny because Rockstar is all about moving on. They didn't mention CJ or anything from the old PS2 games because Rockstar wants to move on and do something different. This game is about pulling off big heists. It's not about running around Liberty City's slums slinging dope. If you want to live in the past, go ahead. Reinstall GTAIV or San Andreas and have a blast. But these changes in GTAV are simply easter eggs for fans and help bring in the new age. Ezza. and PeriodZeroHero 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067202564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k0NG3ØRN Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Johnny meant nothing to me. Played TLAD for a full 5 min. then decided to move on. Grove Street on the other hand, meant everything. I'd rather have Franklin as a Balla, than see Grove Street fall into the hands of the Ballas. They also reversed the Aztecas' and Vagos' territories. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067202703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgl Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 still affected over Johnny's death ? u forgot hes a white knight who came to the rescue for Ashley and the name of the club was "The Lost and Damned" ? the GTA IV DLC pretty much told you they are f*cked from the beginning to matter what they do dont forget protagonists are only strong as long as we have to use them, then they become normal citizens who can die with 1 shot, you forgot Victor Vance in vice city ? V12599, SmokesWithCigs, UltraGizmo64 and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Neither. And I've been playing since Day 1 of top down. Heists, PoeticWhisper, SmokesWithCigs and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Erm... None. Like what, is this the thread about angry nostalgic fanboys able to get their frustration out? humm, yes, a lot of people like(d) Johnny K and the status quo of Groove Street. this inclusions/changes are unnecesary. I liked him too, but it's a story you don't know, you say it was unnecessary because you don't know what's coming, it may make sense later, someone seeking revenge, i'd love to kill Trevor, man i hate him, not as much as i hate Michael though. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) They didn't mention CJ or anything from the old PS2 games because Rockstar wants to move on and do something different. Franklin and Lamar actually did have a discussion about when Grove Street was controlled by the Families back in the 90's , talking about "Man, what ever happened to those guys?". No names were mentioned though, it was just a quick nod to SA fans. Edited March 27, 2015 by oCrapaCreeper UltraGizmo64 and k0NG3ØRN 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmthe2nd Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The Graphics. SmokesWithCigs 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RominOctane Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I'm still waiting for someone to somehow turn this into a map complaint thread. *grabs popcorn* On a more serious note though, I think johnny was the bigger slap. The way he went out was way out of his character. I didn't really like johnny nor did I care about him but it seems like that scene was just there to establish that Trevor is an extreme badass. And it totally worked. Grove street on the other hand was bound to get taken over once cj died. Last time I checked he was the only one taken over turf and keeping the families together. Edited March 27, 2015 by RominOctane Heists 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdog Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 johnny was a bitch ass junkie who got put in his place by Trever. Bonus points to Trever for f*cking his gf before he killed him. i hope he kills CJ in the DLC if that damn idiot ain't dead already. Dijital Binali, Heists, PeriodZeroHero and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Neither. The obvious slap in the face was not taking III, VC, SA and IV, and just making the exact same game of each. Obviously. SmokesWithCigs and PeriodZeroHero 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) The biggest slap to the older games from V was Rockstar not continuing the tradition of offering a great, unforgettable SP experience that they did, and focusing on online mode instead. However...... Johnny K's death was indeed a pointless idea and it did not do anything to make V's story better. Grove Street being Balla hands was not much of an issue to me, the gang stuff was hardly in the game, so it made no difference anyway. Edited March 27, 2015 by Official General theGTAking101, gunziness, B Dawg and 7 others 10 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Flaggot 1 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Honestly I don't even take Grove street or the 'hood' parts of V seriously. To me V is Sandy Shores, that area gets my heart racing like you wouldn't believe, what a beauty! I wish Trevor murdered Luis Lopez rather than Johnny though... Luis came to San Andreas to start-up a club or something and messed with the wrong guy (Trevor) and BANG!!! A big red hole in Luis's face Edited March 27, 2015 by Giles Flaggot 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Johnny K's death was indeed a pointless idea and it did not do anything to make V's story better. I've always described it as a way of sacrificing quality writing for cheap shock value. King Vercetti, Official General, Sunrise Driver and 9 others 12 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/779942-spoilers-which-thing-is-bigger-slap-to-the-older-games/#findComment-1067203786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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