Let's Nerf the Insurgent

[Abraham Ford]

Take out jets, tanks, homing rockets, mines and armored vehicles. This game ain't COD, ffs!

[Aether]

I'm so glad people are talking about this, I got sick of assholes complaining about the lazers.

 

Nerf whatever you want just don't touch the fighter jets.

[gorskiegangsta]

Simply shoot the driver out with any medium-long range weapon. Is it really that hard with auto aim that people have to resort to explosives?

[iSaint9]

If anything the turreted version should get a -1 RPG resistance to balance it to the unarmed version, but overall it shouldn't be nerfed.

[Jammsbro]

It should be. It makes no sense in terms of balance. It can take out a tank. With clever players it can turn it from a fun vehicle into a grier-fest.

 

I don't want it neutered, but I do want it slightly better balanced.

 

We are slowly seeing more and more heavy military vehicle in this game. Rockstar are aiming us towards a FPS experience and when it becomes the dominant factor of gta online, the game will just be another pointless shooter.

[Titus001]

Killed so many players yesterday in my insurgent (gun version) that I was kicked out of the lobby via voting. Victory. Place a sticky bomb in the front. Plow the roads. Lol

[CReaper210]

Take out jets, tanks, homing rockets, mines and armored vehicles. This game ain't COD, ffs!

I actually think this game would be much more fun without all that crap you mentioned. When you put in all this powerful stuff, people stop using the regular things, and just go for the obvious choice(bullet-proof karuma or explosive-proof insurgent). Or call in a jet/tank. These things are all I see in free roam now. Though it is only slightly more annoying than people backing up with bullet-proof cars and instantly pulling out RPG/miniguns when you're hoping for an actual fight.

 

This is what I miss about GTA4. I think the game was overall very balanced from the start, gunfights were fun and skill actually mattered.

 

Now I'll just wait for people to tell me, "go back and play GTA4 then" so I can explain how modded the game is and it's about as annoying to play as GTA5 in free roam.

[Gridl0k]

But if we didn't have a PV Insurgent what use would the Sad Trombone horn be these days? I love taking 3 RPGs, tromboning sadly and rolling off. It's like Passive Mode Plus.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Gridl0k

[CrookByDaBook4]

It's not bulletproof from the back.

Got shot right thru the small window in the back. People use explosives and fail when they are better off shooting through the windows.

[Exiled Stranger]

 

Take out jets, tanks, homing rockets, mines and armored vehicles. This game ain't COD, ffs!

I actually think this game would be much more fun without all that crap you mentioned. When you put in all this powerful stuff, people stop using the regular things, and just go for the obvious choice(bullet-proof karuma or explosive-proof insurgent). Or call in a jet/tank. These things are all I see in free roam now. Though it is only slightly more annoying than people backing up with bullet-proof cars and instantly pulling out RPG/miniguns when you're hoping for an actual fight.

 

This is what I miss about GTA4. I think the game was overall very balanced from the start, gunfights were fun and skill actually mattered.

 

Now I'll just wait for people to tell me, "go back and play GTA4 then" so I can explain how modded the game is and it's about as annoying to play as GTA5 in free roam.

 

I agree. It was fun at first. Now going into free roam is like entering battle with ISIS.

[nikkor801]

G'f*cked

I was going to write something but I couldn't have said it better myself

[G24xRETURNS]

How about no.

Nothing needs 'nerfing'. People are just being little bit*he's.

Don't like it, try and run, adds more fun and a new aspecthat to the game. Don't want to do that? Hit start. Go to the 'online' tab, scroll down to 'find new session. Hit okay. It's fu*king simple.

I personally don't own an insurgent. But don't want to ruin everyone else's good time. Running into them is fun. Don't be a bit*h

I don't own an Insurgent, but last night I spent 15 minutes running from three armed Insurgents in my Zentorno with a bounty on my head. I got hit so many times I was smoking but they couldn't catch me. They finally blew me up just as I was rounding the corner to my DelPorro Hgts garage. Most fun I've had on this game in a while.

 

My vote is NO. Thanks for playing.

Edited March 25, 2015 by G24xRETURNS

[2Chains4Bracelets]

You must be garbage.

 

yeah I suck

[nikkor801]

Had a top five favorite kill today with mine. Guy got in tank.

 

I put five pieces of c4 on the grille of my insurgent. Climbed in headed towards the tank. Called Lester went off radar. Turned off headlights. Rammed right into he tank. Detonated! Killed tank and said occupant. I lived. So did my beautiful insurgent.

 

OP - I guess it's my op insurgents fault he didnt shoot at me one time with his tank.

 

Last guy I tried this on aimed his barrel right at me and basically fired it strait into my windshield as i impailed myself on it he fired blew me and the insurgent up!

 

I would call this fun.

 

I would not call my hyrdra and savage fun when they go down if I even brush them agaisnt anything. This needs a buff.

 

Just saying.

[Adrian J.]

How about no. Me and my friends did the heist and we earned it. Not about to loose it's armor because some people are getting owned by it.

Not that I use it against people, not that kind of person. Still, if people get shot then damn, go passive and the trolls will find an new victim. Belive me they like to f*ck with people, if you stay still in some blocked off area or go to your appartment they won't sit around there for to long.

[Locce]

Vehicles designed for combat should be combat-worthy. If anything some of the other military vehicles deserve to be buffed.

At this point it does not make much sense to discuss if GTA Online would be more fun if it was restricted to "civilian" options. People have the option to turn freeroam into a military shootout, and if they do so their armoured vehicles should be armoured and not just slightly buffed reskins of civilian vehicles.

At the moment people who do not want to take part in these shenanigans only have the option to change sessions, possibly to invite or friend/crew sessions where everybody agrees to cut that crap. It would be helpful if R* gave the option to choose between normal public sessions and "demilitarized" ones (without military vehicles and limited weapon outfit).

[FlossyDSM]

Don't nerf the insurgent, it's seriously easy to kill someone driving it. Buff the rhino, savage, and valkyrie because really, how the hell is a tank weaker than an apc? Savage is suppose to be a hind, the "flying tank". And the valkyrie, meh could use a buff but not as much as the rhino and savage

[Lord_Smasherton]

Okay. Seriously. Yeah, it's awesome that this vehicle can withstand over 5 direct RPG hits. But honestly it ruins the beauty of the game in the ability to be successful in combat with many combinations of play style.

 

I believe one of the greatest things about GTA is that you have so many options of vehicles, tactical style, etc that make many different tactics effective in beating other players in deathmatches or freeroam firefights.

 

I find that often times I can do just as well in my Manana as in my Buffalo S.

 

Obviously, everyone could attack this and be like "Yeah hurdurdurbut the ZENTORNO is really just the best vehicle because fastest speed+bulletproof back+so expensive people don't like blowing it up".

Okay, sure. But I could still at least blow it up in a second if someone was trying to be a jerk and rear-end me with it because they lack real gunplay skill.

 

Now you have the Insurgent. An ugly, ridiculously bulletproofed armageddon.

And everyone's about to say: "but you can shoot through the windows! You're just a noob cause you don't shoot through the windows! Can you not hit the guys driving it??!?!!1?!!"

 

These people clearly have not had to deal with a persistent team of three+ people in one these that drives in front of/past you, because this argument doesn't seem to realize that the vehicle is damn near 100% bulletproof from behind, despite the fact that occupants can shoot anyone around the vehicle from inside.

 

I am not by any means suggesting the vehicle be nerfed to blow up in one explosion like a regular vehicle. After all, it is armored for a reason. However I think it would be completely reasonable to have the vehicle explode in 2-3 explosive hits (depending on location) versus the current ridiculous resistance which forces opponents to either pull out their own Insurgent or get in a jet or tank to compete- which in my opinion are silly explosive escalations which detract from what's really neat about the game by taking away the point of playing on foot/mastering and fooling about with the many non-armored cars the game offers.

 

Just my two pennies.

So much crying. And wrong. It's not bulletproof from the back.

 

It is, simply put, not difficult to shoot people out. I have had zero difficulty doing so. And I stress, I am not that good at this game.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Lord_Smasherton

[senormidget]

Nah it's fine. It's as easy to shoot the occupants as any other vehicle and it isn't exactly hard to outrun.

 

Why do you want to blow it up so badly? It'll cost you 16K and they'll just call Mors for a new one straight away.

[sleepinginlife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxSI1QsIo8g&spfreload=10

[Sir Michael]

Lol, your fault for taking an Insurgent on. Don't pick fights with the big truck icon on the map. Pretty obvious if you ask me...

[huckmonkey]

Take out jets, tanks, homing rockets, mines and armored vehicles. This game ain't COD, ffs!

this stuff is in the game so obviously it is ff. They even put in 1st person ff. And R* decides what this gam is, not you ff.

[Black Terminator]

No thanks on nerfing the insurgent.

[robboy18]

You contradict everything else you say in your second sentance.

 

Just drive away from it And hidea if you aren't good enough to take it on. Fool.

[qik78u]

whats the point of nerfing something everyone will eventually have access too?????? Cant beat them, Join them

[BigJoe_1]

[GhostlySentinel]

Poll speaks for itself.

[Iroquois]

Okay. Seriously. Yeah, it's awesome that this vehicle can withstand over 5 direct RPG hits. But honestly it ruins the beauty of the game in the ability to be successful in combat with many combinations of play style.

 

I believe one of the greatest things about GTA is that you have so many options of vehicles, tactical style, etc that make many different tactics effective in beating other players in deathmatches or freeroam firefights.

 

I find that often times I can do just as well in my Manana as in my Buffalo S.

 

Obviously, everyone could attack this and be like "Yeah hurdurdurbut the ZENTORNO is really just the best vehicle because fastest speed+bulletproof back+so expensive people don't like blowing it up".

Okay, sure. But I could still at least blow it up in a second if someone was trying to be a jerk and rear-end me with it because they lack real gunplay skill.

 

Now you have the Insurgent. An ugly, ridiculously bulletproofed armageddon.

And everyone's about to say: "but you can shoot through the windows! You're just a noob cause you don't shoot through the windows! Can you not hit the guys driving it??!?!!1?!!"

 

These people clearly have not had to deal with a persistent team of three+ people in one these that drives in front of/past you, because this argument doesn't seem to realize that the vehicle is damn near 100% bulletproof from behind, despite the fact that occupants can shoot anyone around the vehicle from inside.

 

I am not by any means suggesting the vehicle be nerfed to blow up in one explosion like a regular vehicle. After all, it is armored for a reason. However I think it would be completely reasonable to have the vehicle explode in 2-3 explosive hits (depending on location) versus the current ridiculous resistance which forces opponents to either pull out their own Insurgent or get in a jet or tank to compete- which in my opinion are silly explosive escalations which detract from what's really neat about the game by taking away the point of playing on foot/mastering and fooling about with the many non-armored cars the game offers.

 

Just my two pennies.

The insurgent is fine the way it is.

 

And not to mention, it depends as to how one uses it. I use my insurgent for peacekeeping missions in freeroam.

 

"Say what, little Timmy? There is an Insurgent Pick-Up and a Tank terrorizing the mean streets of Los Santos? Dont worry, I'll just call my mechanic to deliver my personal Insurgent to ram the Pick-Up upside down to knock off the gunner....and dont worry about the tank neither...Ill just safely drive towards it with multiples stickies attached to my insurgent. By the way, Little Timmy, if you see any armored Kuruma punks, I'll run them over and crush their inferior durability under of the weight of my vehicle, just call 1-800-Insurgent, toll free."

[huckmonkey]

 

 

You must be garbage.

 

yeah I suck

ooooh that is pretty bad. Ouch

[smokingndriving]

Lets not and stop being such a child. So many people in this game can't just learn to deal with things, whether it be passive or whatever.

 

The Insurgent has a weakness the windows arnt bulletproof. The Karuma has bulletproof windows but blows up with 1 explosion so they are both balanced

 

This.