Heists: Cuts

[BrettM69]

 

The people sending messages saying "20%" can f*ck themselves. You're lucky to be getting 15% for not helping me with the setup missions.

So you are saying that I am lucky to get 15% because I am helping you finish a mission that you cant on your own,while I did not get an invite from you for any set up missions (as I just starting playing the game for example) and you have other "randoms" that helped you in the set up that either wont join the final or log out or whatever plus you dont have enough "friends" or "crew members" to help you finish the job.

 

From my point of you,you are the lucky one that some "random" will help you in the final mission,that is actual the part that YOU GET PAID.So me (or other "randoms") helping you actually means MONEY FOR YOU.

 

But it is your heist,not mine.Do what you want.IF I ask 20% and you say "You are lucky to get 15%" then I'll leave and you can find some other "lucky" random you will perhaps help you with 10% or even 5%.

 

My pont is that 20% is the best to give.I think that 15% is not bad either.But to say that people that will help you finish the heist can f*** up because they ask 20% is bull****....

 

 

People that join on the Pacific Standard finale after not helping me with setups get 10%. I don't care if they leave because I'll find someone else who will take 10% and most likely complete the mission.

[hornedturtle]

Yeah I say f*ck em too, from now on its 15% for self entitled a*sholes showing up at the finale, sending me message after message of "25" "30" ok the last 3 heists Ive done with randoms(prison,humane,seriesA) I split it 25% each. Why? I needed people to do the heist. As soon as we get back into freeroam after EVERY SINGLE HEIST, one of the motherf*ckers has to kill me and everyone else that just did it.. Why? Cause it's GTA? Cause children playing this game are giving true GTA fans a bad name? Who knows

 

Then after a week worth of struggling, I get to start pacific standard, first setup requires two drivers two navigators.. F*ck NO, we're all gonna hop in our super cars and drive all over the f*ckin map with no idea what the f*ck we're doing..

 

I have had it with randoms, and idc how selfish it is for 55/15/15/15 if you join just the finale,know why? Spend 3 days failing on one heist from douchebags that can't shoot a bus driver and take the bus from him, that think running right in through the front gate when we're supposed to be stealthily delivering the emp, or ramping down a f*cking mountain over and over and over again with a big ass box truck are good ideas, you would most likely do the same too. I've been tempted to say f*ck it n just get back on 360 with all my friends after the idiots I've seen on x1.. Does a mod wanna move this to the bitch and moan for me? As its on topic for both threads.

The drivers are useless in that mission.

 

Ps. You can drive with the app open, and the vans don't drive that fast.if you put yourself as navigator you should be able to solo it.

 

Dumbass randoms

 

*smh

[Adrian_AFTB]

 

I know the type you mean. On the rare occassion I was able to actually start a Setup mission, one of the players decided to sabotage it from the get go. We arrived at the airfield to pickup the plane and he deliberately destroyed it, but at the time I assumed it was an accident, so we restarted. Again, same player, same result. It was at that point it became clear he only accepted to ruin it for the rest of us so we had no choice but to quit and I've been having trouble starting it ever since.

 

I'll host it, AND I'll give you a thirty percent cut. The catch is that I'm on Xbox one.

 

 

Sorry for my late reply. It's strange that you would say that, because I actually plan on buying an Xbox One very soon. The only catch with that is I would be on a new character, and therefore won't have impressive stats. However, that won't make me any less capable of finishing the job. Oh, I also don't know what my Xbox One name will be, as my true name will undoubtedly be in use already. Wait... that's two catches...

[Ned the Homeless]

I won't give someone without a microphone more than 15% period.

 

Usually divide it into 40-20-20-20 because I'm the generous type but just last night, my experience was playing with one guy who had helped on the setups and two randoms. Made the split 45-25-15-15. Seemed fair enough.

[Xicoman10]

I won't give someone without a microphone more than 15% period.

 

Usually divide it into 40-20-20-20 because I'm the generous type but just last night, my experience was playing with one guy who had helped on the setups and two randoms. Made the split 45-25-15-15. Seemed fair enough.

Its not fair. 15% is hardly anything, 20% + no matter what is fair.

[Ned the Homeless]

 

I won't give someone without a microphone more than 15% period.

 

Usually divide it into 40-20-20-20 because I'm the generous type but just last night, my experience was playing with one guy who had helped on the setups and two randoms. Made the split 45-25-15-15. Seemed fair enough.

Its not fair. 15% is hardly anything, 20% + no matter what is fair.

 

 

What's the logic behind that?

 

Considering how much money the host puts in to start the mission, and how much effort the host puts in to get the mission to its last stage, 15% for being lucky enough to stumble into a Heist is plenty of cash after doing none of the preparation for it.

[hornedturtle]

In my experience, it is the people with mics that stuff up the most. Hell I've seen people with mics stuff up the keycard thing in humane labs more times than people without mics.

Edited April 7, 2015 by hornedturtle

[Hjaere]

The other day, I was doing the Pacific Standard Job, or I tried to. I don't play with a mic, a I have one, but I don't use it. Before the Heist finale began, the leader gave me a 15% cut, $187,500, fine by me. I'm the quiet type of guy, I do the job, I do it good, I play cleverly, the only thing we needed was to reach to boat and get the hell out. After five or six attempts, the leader left. The guys with mics kept dying. A mic don't define how good you are. I completed the Pacific Standard Job as a leader a month ago, without a mic.

[Ellie_Stark27]

Joined a heist as a random today , it was the prison break one , leader has himself set at 60 , his friend at 20 , an me an some other guy at 10 each , an sets me as the pilot role , yes i can do the role an i have done it before but as the hardest part of the heist is the pilot i should be entitled to more than 10% , such greed to give himself 60% , well i purposely flew the plane into a building for that an laughed as he raged through mic

 

imo the pilot role is the easiest part.

I nail it every time, problem is that ppl die in the prison.

 

I have helped countless other randoms do 55/15/15/15, Ive done my share of "crappy payouts"

but when im the leader and I set it to that they all seem to freak out.. randoms off the streets? I dont know how well you will play? After three days trying to get a group together I made new rule.

 

NO MIC NOT CUT.

 

No MIC, your cut will be reduced to 10%. IF you have a MIC you get 20%. Communication is KEY, the MIC comes with your systems for free....

[JulesDennis]

 

 

The people sending messages saying "20%" can f*ck themselves. You're lucky to be getting 15% for not helping me with the setup missions.

So you are saying that I am lucky to get 15% because I am helping you finish a mission that you cant on your own,while I did not get an invite from you for any set up missions (as I just starting playing the game for example) and you have other "randoms" that helped you in the set up that either wont join the final or log out or whatever plus you dont have enough "friends" or "crew members" to help you finish the job.

 

From my point of you,you are the lucky one that some "random" will help you in the final mission,that is actual the part that YOU GET PAID.So me (or other "randoms") helping you actually means MONEY FOR YOU.

 

But it is your heist,not mine.Do what you want.IF I ask 20% and you say "You are lucky to get 15%" then I'll leave and you can find some other "lucky" random you will perhaps help you with 10% or even 5%.

 

My pont is that 20% is the best to give.I think that 15% is not bad either.But to say that people that will help you finish the heist can f*** up because they ask 20% is bull****....

 

 

People that join on the Pacific Standard finale after not helping me with setups get 10%. I don't care if they leave because I'll find someone else who will take 10% and most likely complete the mission.

 

 

 

That is 120.000 (with a 1.200.000 score)for them and 860.000 for you.

I rest my case.

[b1g_dav3]

 

 

I won't give someone without a microphone more than 15% period.

 

Usually divide it into 40-20-20-20 because I'm the generous type but just last night, my experience was playing with one guy who had helped on the setups and two randoms. Made the split 45-25-15-15. Seemed fair enough.

Its not fair. 15% is hardly anything, 20% + no matter what is fair.

 

 

What's the logic behind that?

 

Considering how much money the host puts in to start the mission, and how much effort the host puts in to get the mission to its last stage, 15% for being lucky enough to stumble into a Heist is plenty of cash after doing none of the preparation for it.

 

 

100k Isn't a huge investment... 120K by the time ammo costs are covered. At a 40% split that's covered and then some.

[God-eater]

The sheer f*cking greed and petty rationalizations being spewed out to defend it in these threads is mind-boggling.

 

Seriously, what the hell is the matter with you, you self-righteous, entitled children?

 

It's fake money. In a fake world. Get some goddamned perspective.

[Ellie_Stark27]

The sheer f*cking greed and petty rationalizations being spewed out to defend it in these threads is mind-boggling.

 

Seriously, what the hell is the matter with you, you self-righteous, entitled children?

 

It's fake money. In a fake world. Get some goddamned perspective.

 

fake money that I want to use to buy that fake plane!

[Ghost XB]

I have though about this a bit more. I think that its good to have 15% cut for players who just joined finale, 20% cut if the player did 2 or 3 setups, and 25% cut if the player did all the setups.

[Ned the Homeless]

The sheer f*cking greed and petty rationalizations being spewed out to defend it in these threads is mind-boggling.

 

Seriously, what the hell is the matter with you, you self-righteous, entitled children?

 

It's fake money. In a fake world. Get some goddamned perspective.

 

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the value of time. This is a valid conversation about investment, reward, and ethics.

 

And to those saying "people WITH mics are typically the problem" you're citing your experience instead of using your head. Take 10 people and give them all average skill and the ones with microphones are going to be more effective *as a team* than the ones without. That's just common sense.

 

Now factor in that heist failures tick people off and you have the situation for players to potential leave and render any mission progress wasted (in addition to long waiting times in lobbies). Here, the microphone is crucial - if someone can explain to the team why or how they f*cked up and what they will be doing differently next time, people are going to be more likely to have the faith to give it another try.

 

The microphone has no bearing on skill, but communication is important on so many levels for this that most of the time (and I don't care if that's 50.1%) you're better off having a group that can communicate. That being said, if I was desperate and did set-up missions with somebody who doesn't have a microphone, and they performed well enough, they would obviously earn a larger take at the end. But randoms joining for the Heist alone and not bringing a microphone - be happy with 15%, anything more is generous and shouldn't be expected.

Edited April 8, 2015 by Ned the Homeless

[Setzaroth]

40 for host, 20 for everyone else is the way I always do it. However, I also hardly play with people I don't know, and I make them use a mic.

[后子]

The sheer f*cking greed and petty rationalizations being spewed out to defend it in these threads is mind-boggling.

 

Seriously, what the hell is the matter with you, you self-righteous, entitled children?

 

It's fake money. In a fake world. Get some goddamned perspective.

You're on a video game forum... lol... for a game that has lots to do with in-game currency... people here are most likely going to talk about in-game money more than real hard earned cash...

[Ghoffman9]

 

The people sending messages saying "20%" can f*ck themselves. You're lucky to be getting 15% for not helping me with the setup missions.

So you are saying that I am lucky to get 15% because I am helping you finish a mission that you cant on your own,while I did not get an invite from you for any set up missions (as I just starting playing the game for example) and you have other "randoms" that helped you in the set up that either wont join the final or log out or whatever plus you dont have enough "friends" or "crew members" to help you finish the job.

 

From my point of you,you are the lucky one that some "random" will help you in the final mission,that is actual the part that YOU GET PAID.So me (or other "randoms") helping you actually means MONEY FOR YOU.

 

But it is your heist,not mine.Do what you want.IF I ask 20% and you say "You are lucky to get 15%" then I'll leave and you can find some other "lucky" random you will perhaps help you with 10% or even 5%.

 

My pont is that 20% is the best to give.I think that 15% is not bad either.But to say that people that will help you finish the heist can f*** up because they ask 20% is bull****....

 

Well for people like me who made the jump to the next gen consoles, we very often leave most of our friends and clan mates behind, leaving only a handful of friends left if at that to help you do anything. So its not a lack of friends that is the problem but all your friends being on the older console and not making the big leap to next gen yet.

[UltimateAntic]

 

 

Joined a heist as a random today , it was the prison break one , leader has himself set at 60 , his friend at 20 , an me an some other guy at 10 each , an sets me as the pilot role , yes i can do the role an i have done it before but as the hardest part of the heist is the pilot i should be entitled to more than 10% , such greed to give himself 60% , well i purposely flew the plane into a building for that an laughed as he raged through mic

imo the pilot role is the easiest part.

I nail it every time, problem is that ppl die in the prison.

 

I have helped countless other randoms do 55/15/15/15, Ive done my share of "crappy payouts"

but when im the leader and I set it to that they all seem to freak out.. randoms off the streets? I dont know how well you will play? After three days trying to get a group together I made new rule.

 

NO MIC NOT CUT.

 

No MIC, your cut will be reduced to 10%. IF you have a MIC you get 20%. Communication is KEY, the MIC comes with your systems for free....

Wtf so if people have no mic they inmediately get a lesser cut? I didn't know that using a mic gives you sudden skillz.

[Chesse_cz]

Me leader: 10%

1. Heist member: 30%

2. Heist member: 30%

3. Heist member: 30%

 

So... it's wrong or good?

[RogerWho]

When I'm the leader I just give 25/25/25/25. I don't understand this bitching and moaning about toy money. You know it's not real money right? Were you some of those kids who never wanted to share with anyone or had to split cakes 'half for me and a slice for each of the 5 of you'?

 

And when I join in on a random finale I expect at least 20%, because most of the time someone leaves so in the odd chance we'll finish the mission I don't want to end up with $60.000. Especially in Pacific where people shoot the hostages and then lose half of all the money.

 

When I 'get' 10% I leave right away, with 15% I leave on the 2nd fail.

 

As for 'helping' with setups: it's not 'helping you'. It's 'playing the game'. I join setups which I like, I don't join those which I don't like or which fail too often and I don't join Plane.

 

BTW at least twice I was with a mic-less host doing all the setups and the twat tried to give me 10%. I also saw hosts giving 25% to their pilot friend and 10% to the prison officer. And those were people I met when I lead with 25% cuts.

 

When I had a lot of money in the bank and joined random finales, I would just say to give me 0%, I just want to play. But I don't play with morons who think it's funny to set 70% or 100% for themselves without asking.

[Adrian_AFTB]

When I'm the leader I just give 25/25/25/25. I don't understand this bitching and moaning about toy money. You know it's not real money right? Were you some of those kids who never wanted to share with anyone or had to split cakes 'half for me and a slice for each of the 5 of you'?

 

And when I join in on a random finale I expect at least 20%, because most of the time someone leaves so in the odd chance we'll finish the mission I don't want to end up with $60.000. Especially in Pacific where people shoot the hostages and then lose half of all the money.

 

When I 'get' 10% I leave right away, with 15% I leave on the 2nd fail.

 

As for 'helping' with setups: it's not 'helping you'. It's 'playing the game'. I join setups which I like, I don't join those which I don't like or which fail too often and I don't join Plane.

 

BTW at least twice I was with a mic-less host doing all the setups and the twat tried to give me 10%. I also saw hosts giving 25% to their pilot friend and 10% to the prison officer. And those were people I met when I lead with 25% cuts.

 

When I had a lot of money in the bank and joined random finales, I would just say to give me 0%, I just want to play. But I don't play with morons who think it's funny to set 70% or 100% for themselves without asking.

 

You say you don't understand why people 'bitch and moan' about toy money, yet you leave when you only get offered a 10% cut of 'toy' money? Now THAT I don't understand.

[RogerWho]

You say you don't understand why people 'bitch and moan' about toy money, yet you leave when you only get offered a 10% cut of 'toy' money? Now THAT I don't understand.

It's not about the 'money'. When someone gives themselves 70% or f*cks around with 100/0/0/0, it means he's a greedy bastard and I won't play with people like that. He thinks he's the boss, he can find someone else to play with.

 

On the other hand when someone offers 25/25/25/25 I put them on my friend list and may invite them next time I do a mission or heist since it's probably a reasonable person.

 

Same with people who e.g. refuse to give you a ride vs. those who come for you when your car blows up and you end up stranded and other examples like that.

Edited April 21, 2015 by RogerWho

[Adrian_AFTB]

It's not about the 'money'. When someone gives themselves 70% or f*cks around with 100/0/0/0, it means he's a greedy bastard and I won't play with people like that. He thinks he's the boss, he can find someone else to play with.

 

On the other hand when someone offers 25/25/25/25 I put them on my friend list and may invite them next time I do a mission or heist since it's probably a reasonable person.

 

Same with people who e.g. refuse to give you a ride vs. those who come for you when your car blows up and you end up stranded and other examples like that.

 

Those are all fair points. If I am ever fortunate enough to get my Heists done, I will give myself 10%, giving everyone else 30%, just as my way of saying 'Cheers for the help, guys. :D' - since that's the kind of guy I am. If it'd let me, I'd set it to 1/33/33/33.

[Mokrie Dela]

my gta character's not exactly struggling for money, so when it comes to cut, i don't really mind, so long as i'm not deliberately underpaid due to greed.

 

I think the leader should calculate the cost of the setup and heist and then set his final cut to cover that, then give him a profit equal to what everyone else gets. it needs to be worked out properly.

 

me and two mates found some random guy who joined for the first heist and worked out well, so we kept him on, and I told my mate i don't want to do the next heist without him. We split it about 40-20-20-20 iirc. first time, due to my mate (leader) having low funds and me having loads, i got 10% cut while everyone else got more.

 

There's a lot that should be taken in to consideration. crew members need to prove themselves to deserve high pay imo.

[BrettM69]

People saying mics are needed are bad at the game. If you have a team of people who've done it before and are good at it you can do it without a mic easily. Sometimes I put the mic in to tell sh*t randoms what to do but other than that I don't use a mic.

[Hjaere]

People saying mics are needed are bad at the game. If you have a team of people who've done it before and are good at it you can do it without a mic easily. Sometimes I put the mic in to tell sh*t randoms what to do but other than that I don't use a mic.

I play the same way as you do. Mic is only necessary if you are playing with idiots :i

[Cayo-Petrico-Xx-]

CAN i get more cuts???

[Aragorn71]

1 hour ago, Cayo-Petrico-Xx- said:

CAN i get more cuts???

I think you can buy a knife at Ammunation.....