Heists: Cuts

[BrettM69]

I been trying to get my prison heist going for the past two days but entitled dipsh*ts demand as much as 20% to even 30%. You gotta be extremely entitled to expect more than 15% when you did jack sh*t with the setup of the heist. You can't just show up at the end and expect a huge cut when you done nothing to help the leader reach this point. If you want more then actually contribute instead of just showing up at the end with your hand out as if you deserve more.

Its extremely hypocritcal and entitled to not help heist leaders with their setup missions and only respond to heist invites and think you deserve more than 15%.

 

People rarely respond to invites for setup missions but the second invites start going out for actual heists I suddenly start getting more responses but I decline most cause they are either very low ranks will just f*ck things up or entitled dipsh*ts who think they deserve such a huge payout just for showing up at the end of a huge pain in the ass grind to get all the setup missions completed with a bunch of randoms.

 

Hell they should be happy they're even getting 15% considering the costs I had to pay for, the 2 - 3 hours combined I had to wait for randoms for each setup mission, and the many failed attempts from working with stupid randoms.

I paid the cost, I buckled down and bit the bullet to get to this point with the help of no one and I absolutely refuse to pay more than 15% more out of principle than anything.

 

If I joined a heist and did not help the leader with his setup missions I have no problem taking a 15% cut cause I did nothing to deserve more and have no right to ask for more. If I intend to ask for more I help leaders with their setup missions and when its finally time for the heist I ask for 5% more for my time, its not asking much and adequate compensation.

 

While that is true 75k for the prison break and series a funding is a joke of a payout lol.

[JoshD4PreZ]

Yeah I say f*ck em too, from now on its 15% for self entitled a*sholes showing up at the finale, sending me message after message of "25" "30" ok the last 3 heists Ive done with randoms(prison,humane,seriesA) I split it 25% each. Why? I needed people to do the heist. As soon as we get back into freeroam after EVERY SINGLE HEIST, one of the motherf*ckers has to kill me and everyone else that just did it.. Why? Cause it's GTA? Cause children playing this game are giving true GTA fans a bad name? Who knows

 

Then after a week worth of struggling, I get to start pacific standard, first setup requires two drivers two navigators.. F*ck NO, we're all gonna hop in our super cars and drive all over the f*ckin map with no idea what the f*ck we're doing..

 

I have had it with randoms, and idc how selfish it is for 55/15/15/15 if you join just the finale,know why? Spend 3 days failing on one heist from douchebags that can't shoot a bus driver and take the bus from him, that think running right in through the front gate when we're supposed to be stealthily delivering the emp, or ramping down a f*cking mountain over and over and over again with a big ass box truck are good ideas, you would most likely do the same too. I've been tempted to say f*ck it n just get back on 360 with all my friends after the idiots I've seen on x1.. Does a mod wanna move this to the bitch and moan for me? As its on topic for both threads.

[Maya Echo Visari]

40/20/20/20

 

i.e "good samaritan"

 

Anything more for the crew and the leader is just simply not being compensated for. Any less for the crew and suddenly I realize I don't have a choice in deciding cuts to my preference or philosophy because anyone (good or bad) can decide to end the heist for everyone by simply dashboarding at any time because I didn't choose to split the take four ways. Some people deserve 25%. Some don't. But you can't usually do that with randoms. To most, it's 20% minimum or no heist for anyone.

 

However if you're the leader of the Pacific Standard Job, you've got a bit more leverage I've noticed. Not much more legroom to split the take but randoms can be a tad more obedient when they see that $1,250,000.

[Grumpy-Goat-]

Yeah I say f*ck em too, from now on its 15% for self entitled a*sholes showing up at the finale, sending me message after message of "25" "30" ok the last 3 heists Ive done with randoms(prison,humane,seriesA) I split it 25% each. Why? I needed people to do the heist. As soon as we get back into freeroam after EVERY SINGLE HEIST, one of the motherf*ckers has to kill me and everyone else that just did it.. Why? Cause it's GTA? Cause children playing this game are giving true GTA fans a bad name? Who knows

 

Then after a week worth of struggling, I get to start pacific standard, first setup requires two drivers two navigators.. F*ck NO, we're all gonna hop in our super cars and drive all over the f*ckin map with no idea what the f*ck we're doing..

 

I have had it with randoms, and idc how selfish it is for 55/15/15/15 if you join just the finale,know why? Spend 3 days failing on one heist from douchebags that can't shoot a bus driver and take the bus from him, that think running right in through the front gate when we're supposed to be stealthily delivering the emp, or ramping down a f*cking mountain over and over and over again with a big ass box truck are good ideas, you would most likely do the same too. I've been tempted to say f*ck it n just get back on 360 with all my friends after the idiots I've seen on x1.. Does a mod wanna move this to the bitch and moan for me? As its on topic for both threads.

Dude... I cannot express to you how much what I bolded infuriates me. I've even joined this setup to help people on my friends list that I've added from this specific forum to play heists with. I don't know what the problem is, on PS4 everyone has a mic, it came with the damn system... use it. Or maybe if you don't wanna talk at least pay attention to what you are supposed to do in the mission, pull your head out of your literal ass and be useful.

[LoneJaeger]

Between me and my friends, I the larger cuts to the ones who are broke or have very little money. I have a friend who has 100mil$, he gets the lowest. For a Random, it depends on how well he did, how long he was with me, and how much money he has.

 

If he did very well, but was only with me once, he'll get a 20% cut, If he did well and was with me through the setups, he gets 25%, if he is dirty rich: 5% (I believe that's the lowest) if he is flat broke: 30% (Maybe, if I am feeling generous)

[BigStu4q]

I set my Cuts to 25% each. Not out of any sense of being a nice guy. I just want the damn heists done. most of my crew moved to XB1 at it's release so i have to suffer (usually 2) randoms. I haven't even finished all of the heists yet

[Adrian_AFTB]

I set my Cuts to 25% each. Not out of any sense of being a nice guy. I just want the damn heists done. most of my crew moved to XB1 at it's release so i have to suffer (usually 2) randoms. I haven't even finished all of the heists yet

 

I haven't even been able to start the second one yet. It's getting to a point where, like Phil Collins, I don't care anymore, and just want them done. I am trying to host it, have been for days, but I think people don't accept because no Setup missions have been done. I've been trying to get this f*****g Vagos plane pretty much since Heists went live. The people who do accept usually leave shortly after accepting the invite when we're still in the Lobby, or shortly after it starts, causing us to fail.

 

As for me? I usually accept any invite for Heists I receive and stick it out until the end. What that end is and how it happens I tend to leave up to the Host. I accepted the invite to help, and that's what I am gonna do. Basically, If anyone needs help, I'll help. All I expect is the same courtesy in return. As for the pay? I don't care about the money. I'd set myself to 0% if it meant getting them done.

Edited March 28, 2015 by Adrian_AFTB

[BigStu4q]

Same here mate, i was doing some setups the other day after a random invited me. the first one went smooth, but the 2nd (steal sportsbikes from the lost), we were at for about 90mins, this one guy couldn't stay alive. eventually the host gave up and we all got booted to free roam. I was pissed off, after putting that much time into trying to get it done i had to leave it unfinished

[HirsuteDave]

 

Yeah I say f*ck em too, from now on its 15% for self entitled a*sholes showing up at the finale, sending me message after message of "25" "30" ok the last 3 heists Ive done with randoms(prison,humane,seriesA) I split it 25% each. Why? I needed people to do the heist. As soon as we get back into freeroam after EVERY SINGLE HEIST, one of the motherf*ckers has to kill me and everyone else that just did it.. Why? Cause it's GTA? Cause children playing this game are giving true GTA fans a bad name? Who knows

 

Then after a week worth of struggling, I get to start pacific standard, first setup requires two drivers two navigators.. F*ck NO, we're all gonna hop in our super cars and drive all over the f*ckin map with no idea what the f*ck we're doing..

 

I have had it with randoms, and idc how selfish it is for 55/15/15/15 if you join just the finale,know why? Spend 3 days failing on one heist from douchebags that can't shoot a bus driver and take the bus from him, that think running right in through the front gate when we're supposed to be stealthily delivering the emp, or ramping down a f*cking mountain over and over and over again with a big ass box truck are good ideas, you would most likely do the same too. I've been tempted to say f*ck it n just get back on 360 with all my friends after the idiots I've seen on x1.. Does a mod wanna move this to the bitch and moan for me? As its on topic for both threads.

Dude... I cannot express to you how much what I bolded infuriates me. I've even joined this setup to help people on my friends list that I've added from this specific forum to play heists with. I don't know what the problem is, on PS4 everyone has a mic, it came with the damn system... use it. Or maybe if you don't wanna talk at least pay attention to what you are supposed to do in the mission, pull your head out of your literal ass and be useful.

 

It's not that bad.

 

The navigators can drive themselves around and take all the pictures required with plenty of time to spare. I've done it that way a couple of times now and while it's faster (and probably easier) to have a proper communicating team it's still a piece of cake.

[JoshD4PreZ]

 

 

 

 

Yeah I say f*ck em too, Why? Cause it's GTA? Cause children playing this game are giving true GTA fans a bad name? Who knows

 

Then after a week worth of struggling, I get to start pacific standard, first setup requires two drivers two navigators.. F*ck NO, we're all gonna hop in our super cars and drive all over the f*ckin map with no idea what the f*ck we're doing..

 

I have had it with randoms 55/15/15/15 if you join just the finale. Spend 3 days failing on one heist from douchebags that can't shoot a bus driver and take the bus from him, that think running right in through the front gate when we're supposed to be stealthily delivering the emp, or ramping down a f*cking mountain over and over and over again with a big ass box truck

Dude... I cannot express to you how much what I bolded infuriates me. I've even joined this setup to help people on my friends list that I've added from this specific forum to play heists with. I don't know what the problem is, on PS4 everyone has a mic, it came with the damn system... use it. Or maybe if you don't wanna talk at least pay attention to what you are supposed to do in the mission, pull your head out of your literal ass and be useful.

 

It's not that bad.

 

The navigators can drive themselves around and take all the pictures required with plenty of time to spare. I've done it that way a couple of times now and while it's faster (and probably easier) to have a proper communicating team it's still a piece of cake.

Yeah this is true, and it's what the navigators in my 15+ ( I sh*t you not) replays did, but then each time turned into a race of who can get to the truck first, and smash into the damn thing to alert the driver. -> Callmegoat <- I feel your pain. I've even had people with mics on this setup still fly aimlessly around on the map asking "so what are we supposed to do? What are we supposed to do yo?" With an objective on their screen and after both me and the other driver have calmly stated multiple times "PLEASE LET'S JUST WORK AS A TEAM, JUST RIDE WITH ONE OF US" ->nope let's race!!!

 

You'd think people would want to make heists the best experience possible, since some of us waited over a year for them.. nah, why would anyone want to roll up all badass in the same vehicle (one that's best designed for the purpose of the mission not just a super car) and complete the objective straight G style? Cause "I wanted to be the one to do it" -> takes precident over any other feeling of social relation with other humans.. Gta logic.. Well I should say "randoms in GTA" LøGiC.. F*ck it, let's see how bad part 2 finding the dude in Chumash can be!!

[Ghost XB]

I was in a heist and the guy wanted 25% cut. I said no. OMGGGGGG

[Grumpy-Goat-]

 

 

Yeah I say f*ck em too, from now on its 15% for self entitled a*sholes showing up at the finale, sending me message after message of "25" "30" ok the last 3 heists Ive done with randoms(prison,humane,seriesA) I split it 25% each. Why? I needed people to do the heist. As soon as we get back into freeroam after EVERY SINGLE HEIST, one of the motherf*ckers has to kill me and everyone else that just did it.. Why? Cause it's GTA? Cause children playing this game are giving true GTA fans a bad name? Who knows

 

Then after a week worth of struggling, I get to start pacific standard, first setup requires two drivers two navigators.. F*ck NO, we're all gonna hop in our super cars and drive all over the f*ckin map with no idea what the f*ck we're doing..

 

I have had it with randoms, and idc how selfish it is for 55/15/15/15 if you join just the finale,know why? Spend 3 days failing on one heist from douchebags that can't shoot a bus driver and take the bus from him, that think running right in through the front gate when we're supposed to be stealthily delivering the emp, or ramping down a f*cking mountain over and over and over again with a big ass box truck are good ideas, you would most likely do the same too. I've been tempted to say f*ck it n just get back on 360 with all my friends after the idiots I've seen on x1.. Does a mod wanna move this to the bitch and moan for me? As its on topic for both threads.

Dude... I cannot express to you how much what I bolded infuriates me. I've even joined this setup to help people on my friends list that I've added from this specific forum to play heists with. I don't know what the problem is, on PS4 everyone has a mic, it came with the damn system... use it. Or maybe if you don't wanna talk at least pay attention to what you are supposed to do in the mission, pull your head out of your literal ass and be useful.

 

It's not that bad.

 

The navigators can drive themselves around and take all the pictures required with plenty of time to spare. I've done it that way a couple of times now and while it's faster (and probably easier) to have a proper communicating team it's still a piece of cake.

 

Yeah that's all well and good IF, I repeat IF the navigators know what they are doing. They just never do. When you have two navigators that are all hella stupid just driving around because they are well... stupid. The drivers are utterly useless since they have no way to track the vans.

Edited March 29, 2015 by CallmeGoat

[Misanthrope Z]

give me 70% or i wont hit ready

[Deejay_DC99]

give me 70% or i wont hit ready

You're funny

[Misanthrope Z]

 

give me 70% or i wont hit ready

You're funny

 

thanks captain obvious

[BrettM69]

The people sending messages saying "20%" can f*ck themselves. You're lucky to be getting 15% for not helping me with the setup missions.

[UltimateAntic]

players that ask for more than 15 are always players that f*ck up badly. At least that was the case for me. One guy even expected 30%....

[JulesDennis]

The people sending messages saying "20%" can f*ck themselves. You're lucky to be getting 15% for not helping me with the setup missions.

So you are saying that I am lucky to get 15% because I am helping you finish a mission that you cant on your own,while I did not get an invite from you for any set up missions (as I just starting playing the game for example) and you have other "randoms" that helped you in the set up that either wont join the final or log out or whatever plus you dont have enough "friends" or "crew members" to help you finish the job.

 

From my point of you,you are the lucky one that some "random" will help you in the final mission,that is actual the part that YOU GET PAID.So me (or other "randoms") helping you actually means MONEY FOR YOU.

 

But it is your heist,not mine.Do what you want.IF I ask 20% and you say "You are lucky to get 15%" then I'll leave and you can find some other "lucky" random you will perhaps help you with 10% or even 5%.

 

My pont is that 20% is the best to give.I think that 15% is not bad either.But to say that people that will help you finish the heist can f*** up because they ask 20% is bull****....

[Adrian_AFTB]

What I don't understand is why the majority of people replying to this thread bother doing Heists with random players. Why not wait, and save them for friends/crew members? It will guarantee that the Heist is done with people you trust and will hopefully make it fun for you, as clearly doing it with 'randoms' isn't. However, doing it with friends/crew members doesn't guarantee no mistakes will be made, though. They can and will happen, but it's just a game.

Edited March 30, 2015 by Adrian_AFTB

[Deathdime89]

I haven't really been running into this problem, I have been running into more issues with randoms being more interested in screwing up missions for everyone rather than being seriously concerned with what they are making.

[Adrian_AFTB]

I know the type you mean. On the rare occassion I was able to actually start a Setup mission, one of the players decided to sabotage it from the get go. We arrived at the airfield to pickup the plane and he deliberately destroyed it, but at the time I assumed it was an accident, so we restarted. Again, same player, same result. It was at that point it became clear he only accepted to ruin it for the rest of us so we had no choice but to quit and I've been having trouble starting it ever since.

[surfnow]

I see alot of people on here are always able to play with their crew members all the time. Well we arent. We have lives outside of GTA, families, jobs, kids, etc etc etc. With that being said we use a 40/20/20/20 cut for even those not in the crew. if we have a reocurring problem with the same person(s) getting killed or ignoring us when we have played a mission that not only can we defeat it easily, but quickly, they get booted and we start all over again. i dont have an issue with giving this cut, it covers my costs with a profit, and everyone else gets a decent share. Everyone has the opportunity to host their own Heist, so I try and be as fair as I can. Also you could end up picking up another crew member from playing with a random person. We have picked up 5 .

[Mourticae]

I know the type you mean. On the rare occassion I was able to actually start a Setup mission, one of the players decided to sabotage it from the get go. We arrived at the airfield to pickup the plane and he deliberately destroyed it, but at the time I assumed it was an accident, so we restarted. Again, same player, same result. It was at that point it became clear he only accepted to ruin it for the rest of us so we had no choice but to quit and I've been having trouble starting it ever since.

 

I'll host it, AND I'll give you a thirty percent cut. The catch is that I'm on Xbox one.

[deadeyedeano]

I've lead thru all theists and splitevery one 40,20,20,20 except the final which is split 25 each. HOWEVER if I need a random and this tit doesn't even have a Mic his money is instantly reduced as u can guarantee he will f*ck things up with his inability to take orders/directions... more over when ever I re-do the prison heist finale I always make sure the pilot has the lions share as it is easily the most tiresome and labouring part of all the heists and it's easily the easiest role to punish the heist leader

[后子]

1) I've never demanded money, 2) however, for me it's not about the money, it's about the leader's acknowledgement of how much I'm worth. Some of us can't actually demand how much we're worth because we're so much better than most people, and the differences in percentage would be very big, and damn near disrespectful.

 

If I haven't helped with much setup missions, 15% is lowest I'll accept. 25% is the highest I'm usually comfortable to accept, and that's because I am compassionate, not because 25% is how much I'm worth. Anyone who complains about people wanting more than 15% is obviously only thinking about two things: themselves and their own money. Learn this: it's not just about you, it's about me, too.

 

And if you're playing with people that actually deserve only 15%, what the hell are you doing anyway? And don't get mad when you get what you pay for. Personally, as leader I would be glad to pay someone more than me because that would mean I have a badass teammate who I can learn from. Obviously I'm the minority here, though.

[Ellie_Stark27]

Im new so I only have about 100k in the bank, I dont complain when im in someone else's heist however when im the leader im getting 55%. Ive helped so many ppl with myself only getting 15% im not getting skimped out when its my turn to host.

[Hjaere]

I take what I can get, I don't ''need'' the money, I do heist for fun and I'm just happy when I'm able to complete a heist with a great crew.

[b1g_dav3]

If I'm doing the heist in a more serious manor, I want a proper cut. If I'm just playing for a bit of fun then meh, I'll take 10 or 15% as I'm just playing through for some fun. Depends on if mics are expected and such really, if I'm in a lobby where the leader doesn't use a mic then I'm going to want more as I know the fail rate is going to be high a lot of the time >.<

[Chiarii]

There are some setup missions where one person can literally solo the mission. I found this out on pacific standard when I (not the host) had to photograph all 4 van license plates because everyone bolted off in their own vehicles despite very clear instructions NOT TO on the choose-your-outfit page, which we spent 4 minutes on. The next setup (Signal) was also solod by me. It turns out that clearing the island and rescuing the freak in the cabin cut scene teleports the rest of the crew who is still way out at sea to the island. Then losing the cops which seems to be impossible for some people. Of course the hack setup and convoy setup can't be solod so I have to sit through the crew's multiple failures due to emotional investment. Then comes the bike setup, arguably the easiest mission in gtav in my opinion yet there is almost invariably failure after failure. Of course I have to have the crew follow me because no one can grasp the fact that the numerous alleyways in the area are meant to be used. Now it's the heist, and even tho I'm not the host, this most definitely MY heist, and I want a cut that demonstrates my value in the heist. 25% is not enough if everyone else gets it just for spectating and dying every time theyre on their own for 10 seconds.

 

Tldr:R* should set the cuts instead of the host. It should be based on how valuable you were to the heist using your setup mission involvement as reference. . 40/20/20/20, 55/15/15/15 or even 25s across is flat out insulting when you have someone getting platinum and another getting bronze the whole way thru.

[joe grizzly]

^ so you wantto reward the driver for sitting in his car and barely doin sh!t and still get platinum? fck that! i understand what youre tryin to say but platinum somehow always gets rewarded to thr person whos barely doing sh*t.

 

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my cuts 40/20/20/20 across the board for randoms!

25/25/25/25 for the crew members/homies

0/25/25/50 for whoever needs the most money (none randoms!)

 

heist doesnt have to always be about $$. just enjoy the game ans have fun with friends/crew members. stop the greed and share the wealth people!

Edited April 7, 2015 by joe grizzly