Heists: Cuts

[OMGWhatsHisFace]

This is a slight rant/ discussion topic.

 

I am tired of randoms wanting more than a 15% cut in heist finales.

The "silently wait until I get more, and leave if I don't." Or the "spam messages of "25% cut!!""Or even the people who yell at you for a higher cut.

 

Frankly: f*ck off.

 

If you've helped me through every single set up mission, yeah. You can get 20-25%.

If you're joining for the first time, I see no reason to give you anything. Nothing tells me you're going to be useful anyway. More often then not, randoms screw sh*t up.

 

Also, why should crew members get more than 15% anyway? You have to front 10% of total cut - which is 20% of total (if you take 50%).

Plus, crew members get about 25k per set-up. Overall, crew members make just as much as leaders (with 15/55 split).

 

I don't know, guys... I'm just annoyed.

 

N.B. I have never asked for more than 15% in any finale - even after completing most of the set-ups with that person. I think 15% is fair, and I try to avoid being a hypocrite.

 

 

[cjdavies]

Well I always say you need them more than they need you.

[EEDDDWWWAARRRD]

Scroll a few pages and you can easily find another thread where someone is ranting about this exact thing and has 85% of GTAF is disagreeing with him. And yes, that's a made up percentage.

[JELLY UNICORN]

40/20/20/20 is fair.

he helped you with your setup? that's cool, that means they get paid more through rewards from the setup missions.

[mr funknuts]

I have given my crew 30% each when i host, as 10% about covers my setup costs, I have already bought all i want and still have 2 million spare. They need the money more than i do.

[JELLY UNICORN]

I have given my crew 30% each when i host, as 10% about covers my setup costs, I have already bought all i want and still have 2 million spare. They need the money more than i do.

you the real MVP

[Prizrak]

One of my friends always has his cut set to 50% - 60% and he justifies that by saying. "Well I payed for the heist and I didn't get payed for the setup missions so you guys can afford to take a hit." What!? So if he payed $100,000 to start the last heist and set his cut to 50% like he always does then we finish the heist with 1mil. he is getting $500,000 minus the start up cost so $400,000. The rest of us are getting anywhere from $100,000 to $150,000 just because we did the setups, and he'll cut it the same if we don't do them so we are getting payed less. Lets just say there is a reason he hasn't finished the last heist yet, I refuse to help him because I don't appreciate getting screwed over when I'm the only one that can make it to the boat or even not get killed. Then when we're done with a heist he'll kill us and take what ever amount of money he can from us. All in all a sh*t leader but he acts like he is doing a community service, but he is not the only person that does this.

 

Simply put treat and pay your crew well and your crew will be more motivated to complete the heist, give them the metaphorical shaft and they could care less if the heist is finished or not. If the crew proves to be garbage then simply don't play with them, but don't treat everyone like they are garbage. I'm level 85 and I've had to pull many crews through setups only to get to the final heist and get 10% or 15% while the leader bloats his own wallet.

[Applepie123]

Where's The bitch and moan thread when you need it

[Joebomb]

If you handpick your team and trust them not to f*ck up or leave, like they're level 70 or higher , then I'd split it equal.

25%, don't really care about the set up costs, you are relying on the guys to hang around and get you further in the heists and to me that's more important than the cash.

I think the higher percentage motivates them more to hang around anyway, pay sh*t and be get sh*t in return.

Edited March 19, 2015 by Joebomb

[Potato Bean]

If you're playing with friends, I don't think any one person should get more than anyone else. Of course they should get slightly more to cover the incredibly low up front cost, but other than that, it should be equal. The "leader" starts out getting over 50% of the cut simply because he's the leader. Does the leader do more than anyone else? Of course not, unless you consider picking everyone's clothes to be labor intensive.

 

Now as for randoms, if you join into the heist finale without doing setups, don't expect more than 10-15%. Anything more and you're just a leech.

[Toasted-Cheese]

I always give 40-20-20-20 with randoms ,

With friends or crew i will give 25 each ,

An someone who only joined finale without doing any setups i give 15

[OMGWhatsHisFace]

Scroll a few pages and you can easily find another thread where someone is ranting about this exact thing and has 85% of GTAF is disagreeing with him. And yes, that's a made up percentage.

 

I searched but didn't find anything. I thought it was odd... My bad.

 

Well I always say you need them more than they need you.

 

What I'm saying is, don't join a finale if you want more than 15%. Unless you have some proof that you'll be able to carry 3 people through the mission easily. Again, I'll give 20% if you helped in the set-ups.

 

I have given my crew 30% each when i host, as 10% about covers my setup costs, I have already bought all i want and still have 2 million spare. They need the money more than i do.

 

 

So... That's your situation, not mine. I still have $9million worth of items I want to buy. If I were in yours, I'd be fine with 25% each. That said, if I were in yours I'd probably not bother with heists.

[Ghost XB]

This is a slight rant/ discussion topic.

 

I am tired of randoms wanting more than a 15% cut in heist finales.

The "silently wait until I get more, and leave if I don't." Or the "spam messages of "25% cut!!""Or even the people who yell at you for a higher cut.

 

Frankly: f*ck off.

 

If you've helped me through every single set up mission, yeah. You can get 20-25%.

If you're joining for the first time, I see no reason to give you anything. Nothing tells me you're going to be useful anyway. More often then not, randoms screw sh*t up.

 

Also, why should crew members get more than 15% anyway? You have to front 10% of total cut - which is 20% of total (if you take 50%).

Plus, crew members get about 25k per set-up. Overall, crew members make just as much as leaders (with 15/55 split).

 

I don't know, guys... I'm just annoyed.

 

N.B. I have never asked for more than 15% in any finale - even after completing most of the set-ups with that person. I think 15% is fair, and I try to avoid being a hypocrite.

 

 

I don't care who I play with, I split it 20-20-20-40. Just the fact that they are nice enough to help on the finale is enough for me. Is it really fare for the leader to get 55% of the cut. Say your talking about The Pacific Standard Job. If your group gets a $1,000,000 payout, the leader gets $450,000 from the heist ($550,000 - $100,000 setup cost) while the other players only get $150,000. Even with all the setups that would end at around $250,000, still a bit more than half what the leader makes. In our day and age we need to be fair, no matter who or what the person is or did. Say your at work and you are paid $100,000 per year from sales. You probs sold around $1,000,000 worth of product. The least you deserve is 1/5 (20%) of the money. We live in a world where people have rights and deserve to be properly paid and if you can't respect that leave our country(gtalandia?) be. (#Shr3dd3rForPresident)

 

 

Also, this belongs in the Bitch & Moan topic.

 

I have given my crew 30% each when i host, as 10% about covers my setup costs, I have already bought all i want and still have 2 million spare. They need the money more than i do.

 

 

So... That's your situation, not mine. I still have $9million worth of items I want to buy. If I were in yours, I'd be fine with 25% each. That said, if I were in yours I'd probably not bother with heists.

 

If you wouldn't bother with heists how would you unlock the things you want to buy from heists?

[Toasted-Cheese]

Joined a heist as a random today , it was the prison break one , leader has himself set at 60 , his friend at 20 , an me an some other guy at 10 each , an sets me as the pilot role , yes i can do the role an i have done it before but as the hardest part of the heist is the pilot i should be entitled to more than 10% , such greed to give himself 60% , well i purposely flew the plane into a building for that an laughed as he raged through mic

[RandallFlagg00]

Joined a heist as a random today , it was the prison break one , leader has himself set at 60 , his friend at 20 , an me an some other guy at 10 each , an sets me as the pilot role , yes i can do the role an i have done it before but as the hardest part of the heist is the pilot i should be entitled to more than 10% , such greed to give himself 60% , well i purposely flew the plane into a building for that an laughed as he raged through mic

Hopefully he learned a lesson. That's the way to do it when they give a BS cut. Don't just quit. Ruin it for them.

[OMGWhatsHisFace]

 

This is a slight rant/ discussion topic.

 

I am tired of randoms wanting more than a 15% cut in heist finales.

The "silently wait until I get more, and leave if I don't." Or the "spam messages of "25% cut!!""Or even the people who yell at you for a higher cut.

 

Frankly: f*ck off.

 

If you've helped me through every single set up mission, yeah. You can get 20-25%.

If you're joining for the first time, I see no reason to give you anything. Nothing tells me you're going to be useful anyway. More often then not, randoms screw sh*t up.

 

Also, why should crew members get more than 15% anyway? You have to front 10% of total cut - which is 20% of total (if you take 50%).

Plus, crew members get about 25k per set-up. Overall, crew members make just as much as leaders (with 15/55 split).

 

I don't know, guys... I'm just annoyed.

 

N.B. I have never asked for more than 15% in any finale - even after completing most of the set-ups with that person. I think 15% is fair, and I try to avoid being a hypocrite.

 

 

I don't care who I play with, I split it 20-20-20-40. Just the fact that they are nice enough to help on the finale is enough for me. Is it really fare for the leader to get 55% of the cut. Say your talking about The Pacific Standard Job. If your group gets a $1,000,000 payout, the leader gets $450,000 from the heist ($550,000 - $100,000 setup cost) while the other players only get $150,000. Even with all the setups that would end at around $250,000, still a bit more than half what the leader makes. In our day and age we need to be fair, no matter who or what the person is or did. Say your at work and you are paid $100,000 per year from sales. You probs sold around $1,000,000 worth of product. The least you deserve is 1/5 (20%) of the money. We live in a world where people have rights and deserve to be properly paid and if you can't respect that leave our country(gtalandia?) be. (#Shr3dd3rForPresident)

 

 

Also, this belongs in the Bitch & Moan topic.

 

I have given my crew 30% each when i host, as 10% about covers my setup costs, I have already bought all i want and still have 2 million spare. They need the money more than i do.

 

 

So... That's your situation, not mine. I still have $9million worth of items I want to buy. If I were in yours, I'd be fine with 25% each. That said, if I were in yours I'd probably not bother with heists.

 

If you wouldn't bother with heists how would you unlock the things you want to buy from heists?

 

 

First about the items: *Maybe* I would help some friends and unlock stuff that way, but I certainly wouldn't lead. The hassle is not worth it.

 

 

About the "fairness" and the fact that you're glad they're nice enough to help you: They're trying to make money too. It's not like it's pro bono.

 

Like I said, I never ask for more than 15% and I think that people shouldn't expect more.

 

Also, again sorry for misposting. New to these forums.

[Hail Sithis]

I generally don't care what cut I get, I'm just readied up when it starts and wanna get it done quickly and I usually give myself 10% anyways when hosting

I had a rank 1 join my heist finale and 2 others 100+ and did my usual 10/30/30/30, the rank 1 actually did better than the 100+ guy cause he played it smart and didn't die, I know a lot of people think low ranks are useless but like giving everyone a chance plus I'm sure the higher cut gives them incentive to do better and not f*ck up

[Grumpy-Goat-]

I take no less than 30-35% of final cut, no more than 55% depending on several variables; the most influential of which is whether or not you just showed up for the heist finale. If you are only there for the finale all you get is 15% max (friends/crew excluded); if you didn't put in the grunt work you don't get a bigger cut, period. I increase the cuts from there on out. If you are with me from the get go you will receive no less than 20%, again I may make adjustments as to who gets what based on performance and yadda yadda blah blah...

 

I'm sorry but I disagree with all you folks who say 25% across the board, I just don't agree with that. I fronted the setup cost for the heist (ok I can afford it but this is a matter of principle), I didn't get paid through any of the setup missions... I think an extra 5% or so directly deposited into my bank account is plenty fair.

 

I usually end up with a payout like 35/25/25/15 or 40/20/20/20, usually losing one person along the way. If it's all new players in the finale it goes 55/15/15/15 unless it's a friend or crew I'll bump up their pay out and subtract from mine accordingly.

 

Then there are my friends who have millions, and my friends who are broke, that's a whole other deal, I deal with those on a case by case basis.

 

**TLDR: my payout cuts vary depending on situation**

Edited March 21, 2015 by CallmeGoat

[mr funknuts]

 

Scroll a few pages and you can easily find another thread where someone is ranting about this exact thing and has 85% of GTAF is disagreeing with him. And yes, that's a made up percentage.

 

I searched but didn't find anything. I thought it was odd... My bad.

 

Well I always say you need them more than they need you.

 

What I'm saying is, don't join a finale if you want more than 15%. Unless you have some proof that you'll be able to carry 3 people through the mission easily. Again, I'll give 20% if you helped in the set-ups.

 

I have given my crew 30% each when i host, as 10% about covers my setup costs, I have already bought all i want and still have 2 million spare. They need the money more than i do.

 

 

So... That's your situation, not mine. I still have $9million worth of items I want to buy. If I were in yours, I'd be fine with 25% each. That said, if I were in yours I'd probably not bother with heists.

 

Fair enough if you still have stuff you want to buy, I have since bought the storable Insurgent so i'm down to 1.3 million, But i'm not bothered about any Pegasus vehicles so that is plenty for my needs. Most of the cars i have now are for messing around and i have downsized to my high end apartment and 2 of the 2 car garages as i didn't use quite a few of my 4 door cars and off roaders, If we could actually sell property rather than just trade in towards another, i would be happy with 10 cars that i use. I like doing the Heists as it helps me and my friends unlock them all and is a welcome change from normal missions.

[PMB91184]

I'm so glad I don't play with randoms. 15% wouldn't even be worth my time. I'd be better off doing regular missions solo.

 

20% is fine, so long as you get the heist done on the first or second attempt.

 

What me and my friends do is this; we keep a tally of deaths and fails throughout all the setup missions. Whoever fails the most takes a 5% drop, and whoever dies the least get a 5% bonus. Making the final cuts;

 

30/25/25/20

 

We do it for fun mostly, and to keep it competitive. It also stops people from dicking around.

[Sithisvoid]

People asking for 25% ticks me off. I just leave the heist board and find new people. Don't they understand I invested hours of my time with no pay while they got 25 k per set up mission? Then they got $$ for ammo I didn't get, and I had to pay a premium just to start the thing. I'll pay 20% even though you must understand in most of the heists this is also making less than the crew. 5 set up missions at 25 k each is 125 k plus not getting ammo plus having to pay to start it. At 20% i feel like im still making around 60k less than the crew

[Vik]

Its so stupid when a random wants a 20-25% cut,but when he hosts,he takes a cut of 55%

 

Logic?

 

But when I host its either 25% for all if they are my friends 40/20/20/20 for randoms.

[Butterfly57]

I'm keeping my cuts to 40/20/20/20. Even with randoms who join only for last job.

 

My reasoning? If I'm with friends who have been with me the whole time then it is fair.

 

If someone joins for last heist only (including a randomer) well quite frankly I need them to do the heist. Simple.

[Ghost XB]

Okay so I was at a gas station (I'm in canada because of house stuff) and like this dude was backing into the gas station spot and we drove in front of him and he got out of the car and started being a as*hat. Big City Livin Bruh

[Mofojokers]

Do what me and my mates do dont leave if its less than 20 percent. Stay and make sure it fails and get them killed and laugh silently we do this for hours on end. Gotta teach them a lesson the lowest should always be.

 

20 20 20 40

Edited March 22, 2015 by Mofojokers

[Mourticae]

I always offer thirty percent. It's a decent cut and gets my foot in the door with folks who know what they're doing.

[badblack87gn]

People who complain about the leader taking higher final percentages make me laugh.

 

The setups pay the crew members.. that's always nice.. what's not nice as the leader is paying to start the mish, then doing the setups randos.

Said randos cause the mission to fail numerous times causing you to have to buy armor or top off the weapons over and over..

Such that at the end your overall costs are much higher than the initial setup cost alone.

 

As I see it if I joint a heist and make it out with a fair chunk of money.. that's fine with me.

I enjoy the content of the heists so I'm more in it for the fun anyway.

[Tifro]

Since we're on the topic of heists, you guys mind checking a 'Fleeca Job' Heist video i made with a friend? I got some good feed back on it so I hope you lot will enjoy as well!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71A0_gvXLMA

[Vik]

No.Advertise that sh*t somewhere else

[Ghoffman9]

I been trying to get my prison heist going for the past two days but entitled dipsh*ts demand as much as 20% to even 30%. You gotta be extremely entitled to expect more than 15% when you did jack sh*t with the setup of the heist. You can't just show up at the end and expect a huge cut when you done nothing to help the leader reach this point. If you want more then actually contribute instead of just showing up at the end with your hand out as if you deserve more.

Its extremely hypocritcal and entitled to not help heist leaders with their setup missions and only respond to heist invites and think you deserve more than 15%.

 

People rarely respond to invites for setup missions but the second invites start going out for actual heists I suddenly start getting more responses but I decline most cause they are either very low ranks will just f*ck things up or entitled dipsh*ts who think they deserve such a huge payout just for showing up at the end of a huge pain in the ass grind to get all the setup missions completed with a bunch of randoms.

 

Hell they should be happy they're even getting 15% considering the costs I had to pay for, the 2 - 3 hours combined I had to wait for randoms for each setup mission, and the many failed attempts from working with stupid randoms.

I paid the cost, I buckled down and bit the bullet to get to this point with the help of no one and I absolutely refuse to pay more than 15% more out of principle than anything.

 

If I joined a heist and did not help the leader with his setup missions I have no problem taking a 15% cut cause I did nothing to deserve more and have no right to ask for more. If I intend to ask for more I help leaders with their setup missions and when its finally time for the heist I ask for 5% more for my time, its not asking much and adequate compensation.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Ghoffman9