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universetwisters

GTAWikia essay

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Curtis

i would.

that'd be a lot of work nonetheless.

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George Costanza

Have someone brought Console and PC Differences ?

Again most of points are facts made up on bad thought that xbox and PS2 versions are same. Even though GTA 3 and VC xbox versions are based on PC one and SA xbox version is more similar to PC than to PS2

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universetwisters

Would there be any interested in a wiki managed by gtaf? As in, actual content based on real sources.

 

Just so long as there's cited sources and the moderators/admins aren't power hungry sh*tf*ckers who are hell bent on making sure their edits aren't reverted.

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PhillBellic

Would there be any interested in a wiki managed by gtaf? As in, actual content based on real sources.

So, kind of like a General Knowledge Version of the GTA Modding Wiki?

 

I can help with Proofreading. :^:

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Curtis

We need alot of members if we would want a complete wiki with proof-read pages about all games.

 

On the topic of wikis, i prefer the (dutch) wikigta if not the crappy wikia one. Their pages are all pretty good IMHO. But their strong suit is aimed more at the 3D Universe as i believe wikigta is getting underrated and has underupdated info. They make good maps with things like hidden weapons, or use good images for pages. Nothing satisfies me more than a transparent weapon pic only showing the weapon.

 

example

Combat_Shotgun.png

 

 

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gtafaninwest

We need alot of members if we would want a complete wiki with proof-read pages about all games.

 

On the topic of wikis, i prefer the (dutch) wikigta if not the crappy wikia one. Their pages are all pretty good IMHO. But their strong suit is aimed more at the 3D Universe as i believe wikigta is getting underrated and has underupdated info. They make good maps with things like hidden weapons, or use good images for pages. Nothing satisfies me more than a transparent weapon pic only showing the weapon.

 

example

Combat_Shotgun.png

 

 

There is GrandTheftWiki, but that place has fallen over the years.

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PhillBellic

 

We need alot of members if we would want a complete wiki with proof-read pages about all games.

 

On the topic of wikis, i prefer the (dutch) wikigta if not the crappy wikia one. Their pages are all pretty good IMHO. But their strong suit is aimed more at the 3D Universe as i believe wikigta is getting underrated and has underupdated info. They make good maps with things like hidden weapons, or use good images for pages. Nothing satisfies me more than a transparent weapon pic only showing the weapon.

 

example

Combat_Shotgun.png

 

 

There is GrandTheftWiki, but that place has fallen over the years.

 

Only in regards to GTA V/Online, in my opinion. Everything else still has current and detailed Information.

 

I wonder if the folks behind GTW would be interested in licensing(or sharing) their Info with us?

 

Something to ponder. :)

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The history of the Non-Stop-Pop FM article features some pointless "trivia". Luckily, they have been removed. Some examples:

 

 

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Yeah, it's very important to know how many songs an artist has on the station. Also, "Scream & Shout" isn't featured on NSP.

 

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1. Nobody cares if some New Zealander chick was 16-years-old when she recorded a song.

2. Writing a trivia that a song was released in 2013 or thereabouts is unnecesary. I don't even need to explain why.

 

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Same as above (the 2nd point, to be specific).

 

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No comment needed.

 

Edited by Phnx.

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xNCx

I wonder why there are not so many updates on GTW recently, the articles are on a pretty decent level with (almost) no crap. Some admins of GTW are hanging around on GTAF, maybe someone can explain it?

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universetwisters

I wonder why there are not so many updates on GTW recently, the articles are on a pretty decent level with (almost) no crap. Some admins of GTW are hanging around on GTAF, maybe someone can explain it?

I can only think that the admins are hanging around here because of this thread, I dunno. I still come across some sh*tty stuff like a while ago, someone said Jeremy Robard was Jewish because evidently New York accents are a trait only Jewish people have and when I removed it, the guy who put it there accused me of being antisemitic.

 

But yea, most I see them doing as of late is just uploading pictures of vehicles at multiple angles.

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EddieLTU

my complaint about the GTA Wikia is the fact that vehicle data is wrong. Here's a quick example

Fusilade. They claim that it's a V6

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example video

 

 

while in reality is sounds like a Inline 5 from a TTRS

 

 

and the same goes for the 9F, Felon, Penumbra, Alpha

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universetwisters

^ I remember wildbrick bringing that up a few pages ago. It's just craziness.

 

Also a little birdie told me to check out the trivia section for Tracey and oh wow, I dunno how late this was added or if it just got past the wonderful and ever so vigilant factcheckers of the site but for the love of god people, cite your sources!

 

http://imgur.com/rfc3z75

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lol232

I remember reading the Atomic blimp page 2 days before GTA V was released and I remember when it said that the said blimp had a grill bar called "the Atomic grill". Who comes up with this sh*t, seriously?

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WildBrick142

I remember reading the Atomic blimp page 2 days before GTA V was released and I remember when it said that the said blimp had a grill bar called "the Atomic grill". Who comes up with this sh*t, seriously?

2 days after*

 

The only misleading content on that page 2 days before release was, actually, coming from me because I was gullible and believed every single leak back then. Then some guy added this on the day of V's release.

 

Note that anyone can edit the wiki if they have an account so there will always be someone who's trolling, like the guy who added that grill thing, as evidenced by a few other pages he edited. So, basically, trolls and vandals found on just about every wiki out there come up with this sh*t.

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RedDagger

That's just in a user's sandbox page, it's not an actual article :p

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universetwisters

I'd be surprised if that became an actual article and nobody cared.


Speaking of sh*t like that, I went to the Beta releases in IV page and removed some obviously uncited stuff. Got to remove some stuff about the removed radio host "Pauline Simmons", some fake mission sh*t like there being a fire on the building in "In the Crosshairs", etc. but shortly after it got removed, I got a message from an admin saying:

 

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So now begs the question; would you rather read a page with either A) all the false information removed or B) with false information on it, but it has a tag saying it could be false?

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xNCx

@up why even bother editing articles on Wikia?

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RedDagger

That's a terrible policy, and it shouldn't take any explanation as to why...let's look to wikipedia to see their policy for WP:UNSOURCED

 

The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material

Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source. Whether and how quickly material should be initially removed for not having an inline citation to a reliable source depends on the material and the overall state of the article.

...huh. Now that's policy that makes more sense.

 

As far as I can tell the article was conjured into existence 2 months ago, but hey, all we care about is that it's content!

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universetwisters

As far as I can tell the article was conjured into existence 2 months ago, but hey, all we care about is that it's content!

Shame on them. I wish they could come here to defend that logic or at least give an explanation that isn't a canned response.

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WildBrick142

Speaking of sh*t like that, I went to the Beta releases in IV page and removed some fake mission sh*t like there being a fire on the building in "In the Crosshairs", etc.

Relevant.

 

That's a terrible policy, and it shouldn't take any explanation as to why...let's look to wikipedia to see their policy for WP:UNSOURCED

The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material

Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source. Whether and how quickly material should be initially removed for not having an inline citation to a reliable source depends on the material and the overall state of the article.

...huh. Now that's policy that makes more sense.

 

As far as I can tell the article was conjured into existence 2 months ago, but hey, all we care about is that it's content!

 

That sort of policy will be on GTA Wiki eventually. At the moment many things are being still sorted out so apart from a few live test runs (such as this) there aren't going to be any major changes like that - at least not instantly.

 

I did actually force the "references or gtfo" rule on beta pages only last year by creating a warning template to put on top of the pages, then proceeding with adding references to everything I could on the beta info for GTA III. It was a lot of work trying to find all the sources (I actually left some things unsourced because I had no idea whether they were true or not and I didn't want to remove actual info if it was actually true) so I cba to do the rest alone, it doesn't seem people care that much either, and I left it at that. Some things likely and obviously slipped past but other things were caught and removed when they were added. The page (I assume you're referring to "Beta Releases in GTA IV") was split from the main Bata Releases page because it apparently caused lag for some people - literally nothing was changed in text, what was there has been literally copy pasted to the new page.

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universetwisters

Good god, if it's that easy for you to find but that hard for them to cite, you know there's a problem.

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Just looked at the article about the beta version of GTA V and found this:

 

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Of course, I removed that false information. Is it possible that the staff will bring it back?

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universetwisters

Probably.

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DoctorMike

I got blocked for no reason by a dickhead. I was a patroller and i had created tons of pages when GTA V came out, I discovered the voice actor of characters and i created them etc.

The guy was a butthurt named vaultboy, I don't remember exacly, i think he is an admin. He blocked me for no reason and the staff were rude. And the informations were all wrong, i edited some of them but I didn't make it, they blocked me from both GTA Myths wiki. First he blocked me, then i went to GTA Myths wiki, asking for an unblock but he blocked me. The staff is so rude the admin has no controls and such and they don't check them GrandTheftWiki's information was a bit better but still most of them are stolen from GTA Wiki OR GTA Wikia stole from GrandTheftWiki cuz if you look both websites, browsing the same article, you will see that the resemblance is uncanny. I spent most of my time, editing GTA Wikia's bullsh*ts and correcting them. Only to get blocked by a f*cking rude and complex piece of sh*t. all im saying is that

 

GTA Wikia Staff is Rude

The recemblance between the articles are so obvious and uncanny

Wrong information of GTA Wikia and some funny grammatical errors in some pages

 

Hope you understand and please don't answer me with a bad tone or anything like that becuz of the truth tham im saying

Just looked at the article about the beta version of GTA V and found this:

 

504c7fa1c92b492db1b2e5c7cb9dfe47.png

 

Of course, I removed that false information. Is it possible that the staff will bring it back?

i got a block warning for correcting their false information, what a dickheads!

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WildBrick142

I got blocked for no reason by a dickhead. I was a patroller and i had created tons of pages when GTA V came out, I discovered the voice actor of characters and i created them etc.

The guy was a butthurt named vaultboy, I don't remember exacly, i think he is an admin. He blocked me for no reason and the staff were rude. And the informations were all wrong, i edited some of them but I didn't make it, they blocked me from both GTA Myths wiki. First he blocked me, then i went to GTA Myths wiki, asking for an unblock but he blocked me. The staff is so rude the admin has no controls and such and they don't check them GrandTheftWiki's information was a bit better but still most of them are stolen from GTA Wiki OR GTA Wikia stole from GrandTheftWiki cuz if you look both websites, browsing the same article, you will see that the resemblance is uncanny. I spent most of my time, editing GTA Wikia's bullsh*ts and correcting them. Only to get blocked by a f*cking rude and complex piece of sh*t. all im saying is that

 

GTA Wikia Staff is Rude

The recemblance between the articles are so obvious and uncanny

Wrong information of GTA Wikia and some funny grammatical errors in some pages

 

Hope you understand and please don't answer me with a bad tone or anything like that becuz of the truth tham im saying

What was your account name? And yes, GrandTheftWiki copied info from GTAWiki - actually, GrandTheftWiki was GTAWiki originally.

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DoctorMike

 

I got blocked for no reason by a dickhead. I was a patroller and i had created tons of pages when GTA V came out, I discovered the voice actor of characters and i created them etc.

The guy was a butthurt named vaultboy, I don't remember exacly, i think he is an admin. He blocked me for no reason and the staff were rude. And the informations were all wrong, i edited some of them but I didn't make it, they blocked me from both GTA Myths wiki. First he blocked me, then i went to GTA Myths wiki, asking for an unblock but he blocked me. The staff is so rude the admin has no controls and such and they don't check them GrandTheftWiki's information was a bit better but still most of them are stolen from GTA Wiki OR GTA Wikia stole from GrandTheftWiki cuz if you look both websites, browsing the same article, you will see that the resemblance is uncanny. I spent most of my time, editing GTA Wikia's bullsh*ts and correcting them. Only to get blocked by a f*cking rude and complex piece of sh*t. all im saying is that

 

GTA Wikia Staff is Rude

The recemblance between the articles are so obvious and uncanny

Wrong information of GTA Wikia and some funny grammatical errors in some pages

 

Hope you understand and please don't answer me with a bad tone or anything like that becuz of the truth tham im saying

What was your account name? And yes, GrandTheftWiki copied info from GTAWiki - actually, GrandTheftWiki was GTAWiki originally. it was Aiden Pearce 2, i had like 150 to 200 edits, im not sure tho, cuz I don't even bother to visit that sh*tty wikia again

 

I got blocked for no reason by a dickhead. I was a patroller and i had created tons of pages when GTA V came out, I discovered the voice actor of characters and i created them etc.

The guy was a butthurt named vaultboy, I don't remember exacly, i think he is an admin. He blocked me for no reason and the staff were rude. And the informations were all wrong, i edited some of them but I didn't make it, they blocked me from both GTA Myths wiki. First he blocked me, then i went to GTA Myths wiki, asking for an unblock but he blocked me. The staff is so rude the admin has no controls and such and they don't check them GrandTheftWiki's information was a bit better but still most of them are stolen from GTA Wiki OR GTA Wikia stole from GrandTheftWiki cuz if you look both websites, browsing the same article, you will see that the resemblance is uncanny. I spent most of my time, editing GTA Wikia's bullsh*ts and correcting them. Only to get blocked by a f*cking rude and complex piece of sh*t. all im saying is that

 

GTA Wikia Staff is Rude

The recemblance between the articles are so obvious and uncanny

Wrong information of GTA Wikia and some funny grammatical errors in some pages

 

Hope you understand and please don't answer me with a bad tone or anything like that becuz of the truth tham im saying

What was your account name? And yes, GrandTheftWiki copied info from GTAWiki - actually, GrandTheftWiki was GTAWiki originally. it was Aiden Pearce 2, i had like 150 to 200 edits, im not sure tho, cuz I don't even bother to visit that sh*tty wikia again, ohh it was? But the staffs aren't the same. GTA Wikia doesn't even have an active admin, does it?

 

I got blocked for no reason by a dickhead. I was a patroller and i had created tons of pages when GTA V came out, I discovered the voice actor of characters and i created them etc.The guy was a butthurt named vaultboy, I don't remember exacly, i think he is an admin. He blocked me for no reason and the staff were rude. And the informations were all wrong, i edited some of them but I didn't make it, they blocked me from both GTA Myths wiki. First he blocked me, then i went to GTA Myths wiki, asking for an unblock but he blocked me. The staff is so rude the admin has no controls and such and they don't check them GrandTheftWiki's information was a bit better but still most of them are stolen from GTA Wiki OR GTA Wikia stole from GrandTheftWiki cuz if you look both websites, browsing the same article, you will see that the resemblance is uncanny. I spent most of my time, editing GTA Wikia's bullsh*ts and correcting them. Only to get blocked by a f*cking rude and complex piece of sh*t. all im saying is thatGTA Wikia Staff is RudeThe recemblance between the articles are so obvious and uncannyWrong information of GTA Wikia and some funny grammatical errors in some pagesHope you understand and please don't answer me with a bad tone or anything like that becuz of the truth tham im saying

What was your account name? And yes, GrandTheftWiki copied info from GTAWiki - actually, GrandTheftWiki was GTAWiki originally. but they were keep talking sh*t about my grammar, it made me so angry, and I argued with them but they blocked me for 2 hours. Lol, they think they can block whoever they want or whoever they don't like!

I was a patroller in GTA Myths wiki, but they didn't promote me to admin becuz of my little grammar errors but i was keep editing them imwhen i got the right way of that. And i just made a mistake and that rude vaultboy blocked me forever, like, wtf?

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thehambone

@MikePhilips

gta.wikia.com is the original wiki. GrandTheftWiki split from the wikia network in 2010(?) over disputes about changes to wiki's layout. Most of the original admins and staff moved on to form GrandTheftWiki.com and copied data from gta.wikia.com (their old site) onto the new one to start off.

 

I've always stuck with GrandTheftWiki.com. The ad-ridden and ugly layout of wikia's sites are extremely off-putting to me. GrandTheftWiki.com is a better site in my opinion, albeit lacking staff and a little outdated. The existing material on the site is arguably superior to the material found on GTAWiki.

Edited by thehambone

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DoctorMike

@MikePhilips

gta.wikia.com is the original wiki. GrandTheftWiki split from the wikia network in 2010(?) over disputes about changes to wiki's layout. Most of the original admins and staff moved on to form GrandTheftWiki.com and copied data from gta.wikia.com (their old site) onto the new one to start off.

but the informations are the same and some of them might be false.

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Videogames888

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_FM

 

Check this out. On the "Grand Theft Auto Vice City Box Sex" section (I swear that is what the section is called) that on Volume 4 of the European soundtrack that Smugglers run,Hold the Line, and I wanna be a cowboy is present. Do they proof of this? Nope.

 

Some of the things they put on that wiki makes me wonder if they even went to school.

Edited by Videogames888

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